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Friday, a Stradivari vl that had been stolen 1980 was returned to fay members of the ceased virtuoso Roman Totenberg. It had been ma by Anton Stradivari 1734, purchased by the Totenberg 1943, and served as his reer stment before vanishg thirty-five years ago. On Saturday, a different set of classicists memorated their own thirty-five year tone: the 1980 arrival of another paragon mil-stment nstctn. They chose the celebratn’s exact date, 8/08, for the vice’s numeril name; they sang Roland’s TR-808 dm mache. Saturday was 808 Day.</p><p class="paywall">The 808 spired events Los Angel and New York. On Central Park’s SummerStage, the South Bronx d.j. and producer Aika Bambaataa performed his 1983 electro-funk h “Pla Rock”—the 808 heard round the world. Post-hip-hop neologisms such as “mash-up” and “curator” probably bt scribe both this song and s creator—an extremely open-md d.j. whose blend of a Kraftwerk song, a U.K. prog-rock cut, and a Japane electronic posn was wrought, tensified, and fed by the producer Arthur Baker’s emphatic e of the 808. While digal petors already livered more thentic snare, cymbal, and bass-dm sounds, an ascendant, more budget-md terie embraced the 808 as a primary stment, effectively creatg a new, more potent meang for the word “dms.”</p><p class="paywall">“Pla Rock” began a revolutn that is breathlsly narrated by Alex Dunn’s new documentary, “808,” which scrib “a movement mic, head by the 808.” You have to wonr if this movement’s members actually nsired a piece of d gear their Dear Lear, but this summary of the 808’s impact do forhadow a sentiment that is mon today’s electronic-dance-mic scene, whose lumari, such as David Guetta, cred their genre’s novatns to tech upgras. The troductn of Roland’s magic box was disputably the Big Bang of pop’s great age of disptn, om 1983 to 1986. The 808’s fiantly anic timbr—robot handclaps, turn-signal wbells, a prsed-air punchg snare—sketched out the doma of a new world of mic, s effective atlas beg the self-tled 1984 début album by Run-D.M.C. While most of the 808’s sounds dated stantly, s bass kick had a life of s own. Ls a product of engeerg than a force of nature, this bass-rollg subsonic boom has e to be what people mean when they refer to “an 808.” Siar to the oceanic crcendo that ns through Wagner’s Vorspiel to “Das Rhegold,” this bass is felt before ’s heard, the downbeat swoong to fill a space, tuned to s own harmonic center.</p><p class="paywall">This 808 sound was also crowd-sourced, wh artists buildg on one another’s modifitns of the vice. One of the first major novatns me about 1984, by the producer Strafe, who, the film, scrib fe-tung the 808’s low equenci and further wing s bass kick dm to create the sound of an unrground ne tt, heard on his 1984 h “Set It Off.” The song’s origal mix, by the dis producer Walter Gibbons, lacked Strafe’s low-end ntributn bee, acrdg to Strafe, the born-aga Gibbons felt “that bass was an stment of the Devil.” He was probably right. The tremblg feelg of that sound, boomg down boulevards  Oakland, the Bronx, and Detro are part of Ameri’s cultural DNA, the ghost of Reagan-era blight.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p class="paywall">The moment was brief, jt more than three years long. The twenty-year-old Rick Rub tried to replite the experience of a hip-hop club on the T La Rock sgle “It’s Yours” by g an 808 his NYU dorm room. He tweaked the bass-dm settg to win the tone and stretch the y, creatg a new reference pot for 808 ers ever sce. After -foundg Def Jam, Rub produced a strg of albums by the Beastie Boys, Run-D.M.C., and LL Cool J, equently g the hoe 808 of Chatown’s Chung Kg Studs, which had been purchased by the Beastie Boy Adam Horovz. “If you don’t have , ’s not thentic,” the producer Hank Shocklee tells the filmmakers “808.” Shocklee based Public Enemy’s revolutnary noise brilage on a sample of the filtered, procsed 808 kick om Rub’s “It’s Yours.” “It’s not hip-hop whout that sound,” Shocklee says.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p class="paywall">But Shocklee was already workg the post-sampler age of eternal recursn, when an 808 kick was a highly attenuated versn of what uld be found as a pre-set on the Roland vice. It’s te that the 808’s sound and terface begat styl of mic around the globe, as Brish, Belgian, and Swedish stars of electro, techno, hoe, and synth-pop attt “808.” But, by the late neti, the dm mache that replaced s own referent had acced other, non-mil meangs Southern rap styl such as bounce, cnk, and trap fed s omo bass wh lyrics patg the dg-tra liftyle the neon and gold-flashg hu of “Srface,” relnchg the vtage bass sound natnally while upgradg s latent menace. Today, this 808 is the bedrock of the urban-youth-culture soundtrack, particularly for trap artists, who mix s avenue-shudrg bass wh verbal threats om hip-hop tracks, handgun clicks, bursts of mache-gun fire, and other adrenale triggers. In five sends, an apt of this style n turn a packed nightclub to a joyful enzy of stage-divg, rhythmic gymnastics.</p><p class="paywall">What’s tly new about the ntemporary embrace of Roland’s ur-dm-set is how quickly aligned so many artists around s sound. The blend of electronic dance mic and retro-hip-hop that the mache has helped to create riv om digal sound and social media rather than any geographic regn or artistic movement, s hyphenated sub-genr signifyg batns of sound, mood, tempo, pacg, lyric ntent—all of cut, pasted, curated. It’s effectively a crowd-sourced mic genre that embrac and fetishiz the “iller,” “sicker,” cheaper sound of street mic om the past. Te visnari saw this g s ago. “Whatever you now fd weird, ugly, unfortable, and nasty about a new medium will surely bee s signature,” Brian Eno wrote 1996’s “A Year Wh Swollen Appendic_._” He predicted that CD distortn, digal vio jter, and crappy 8-b sound would be “cherished and emulated as soon as they n be avoid.” The sound of the 808, one of early hip-hop’s most cherished signatur, was avoidable nearly as soon as arrived.</p><p class="paywall">The film “808” clos by givg viewers an dience wh the Creator. Roland’s wan founr, Ikutaro Kakehashi, ss at a sk a navy su wearg nasal oxygen tub and, labored, heavily accented and subtled English, sps a faiar yarn. He claims that the 808’s distctive sizzle was produced by the flty transistors that he chose for the sound generator. As seminductor improvements ma them impossible to rtock, “we uld no longer buy the fective transistor,” he says. “So, no way to e back!” The film’s closg tl reveal that, s three years of productn, Roland ma only twelve thoand TR-808s, a fact of ltle practil signifince but tremendo ronance as a cultural myth. Some of those twelve thoand box created the most dynamic sounds of the past century. Countls micians still hope to njure the ghost the analog mache.</p><p class="paywall">Amulets, charms, and picks of sty appear many styl of mic. Jazz hopefuls still seek out Selmer’s vnted Mark VI tenor saxophone, whose ltro sound is heard on nonil Blue Note and Impulse! albums. Rock alchemists extol the germanium transistors the distortn pedal Hendrix played at Monterey, stg this semi-metallic element as the goln key to the guar god’s warm yet edgy sound. 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The <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">study</a> ed two Stradivari and one l Gù, whose bed worth of ten ln was a hundred tim higher than the new vls that turned out to be the most wily preferred. (One of the Stradivari was the least preferred.) No rrelatn was found between age, value, and the stment’s tonal qualy or exprsivens. “Notwhstandg all the above,” the published study reported, “the particular visual bety and historil importance of old Italian vls will no doubt mata their hold on the imagatn of vlists and their dienc for a long time to e.”</p><p class="paywall">The same lson rounds a chapter om 808 history. By 1982, Marv Gaye had fled dg, money, and fay problems to the small Belgian cy of Ostend, severg his ti wh Motown. Fragile and paranoid, Gaye began workg on new mic, gravatg to an stment that would prerve his isolatn. “He wanted to e synthizers and dm mach so he uld do all himself,” the engeer Frank Butcher says the documentary. “He didn’t want anyone else volved.” Butcher rells Gaye phg buttons, settg levels, programmg beats and cueg rhythms, whout sgg or sayg a thg. Once he was fished buildg the song, Gaye phed “play” and sang the vol le to the song “Sexual Healg.” It was the hight-chartg h of his reer and sounds nothg like hip-hop or techno, spe beg ma almost entirely wh an 808. That song sounds like do bee was Marv Gaye g the 808. 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(512x320:513x321):format(webp)/ 1080w, (512x320:513x321):format(webp)/ 1200w, (512x320:513x321):format(webp)/ 1440w, (512x320:513x321):format(webp)/ 1920w, (512x320:513x321):format(webp)/ 2048w, (512x320:513x321):format(webp)/ 2400w" src="(512x320:513x321):format(webp)/" dg="async" data-nimg="rponsive" style="posn:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizg:borr-box;paddg:0;borr:none;marg:to;display:block;width:0;height:0;m-width:100%;max-width:100%;m-height:100%;max-height:100%;object-f:ver"/></span><div class="duet--media--ptn pt-6 font-polysans-mono text-12 font-light leadg-130 trackg-1"><figptn class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup le text-gray-13 dark:text-gray-e9 [&>a:hover]:text-black [&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&>a:hover]:text-gray-e9 dark:[&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-gray-63 [&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray-13 dark:[&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray-63"><em>Kanye Wt.</em></figptn> <ce class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup le not-alic text-gray-63 dark:text-gray-bd [&>a:hover]:text-gray-63 [&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&>a:hover]:text-gray-bd dark:[&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-gray [&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray-63 dark:[&>a]:text-gray-bd dark:[&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray">Photo: <a href=">Flickr</a></ce></div></figure></div></div></div></div><div class="relative md:mx-to md:flex md:max-w-ntaer-md lg:max-w-none"><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent-ntaer clearfix sm:ml-to md:ml-100 md:max-w-article-body lg:mx-100"><div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><blockquote class="duet--article--blockquote ewrhy30"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup ewrhy37 _1xwtict0">"I’m back wh the 808 ‘e I’m bossy.” —Kelis feat. Too Short, “Bossy”</p><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup ewrhy37 _1xwtict0">“Frh like, uh, Impala, uh, chrome hydrlics, 808 dms” —The Game, “How We Do”</p><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup ewrhy37 _1xwtict0">"Got some pretty good beats on this 808 CD” —Frank Ocean, “Swim Good”</p><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup ewrhy37 _1xwtict0">“My heart’s beatg like an 808” —Brney Spears, “Break The Ice”</p><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup ewrhy37 _1xwtict0">“808, 8-0-fuckg-8” —Future, “Mask Off”</p></blockquote></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">If you’re to hip-hop and pop, you’ve probably heard “808” at some pot. That’s a reference to the inic <a href=">Roland TR-808</a>, a dm mache created by Ikutaro Kakehashi 1980. Its unique dribblg bass dm sound is what artists mean when they say “turn up the 808.” The pursu of the perfect low-equency 808 sound is a real stggle for producers. Make a powerful enough 808, and n blow your speakers — which n be the goal, if you’re tryg to make a real banger.</p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">Over the weekend, Kakehashi died at the age of 87, leavg behd a legacy of creatns that had an immeasurable impact on mic all over the world. Born Osaka, Japan, Kakehashi got his start repairg broken watch and clocks when he was 16, and later obtaed a gree mechanil engeerg. In 1960, he found his way to electronic stments at Ace Electronic Indtri. He solidified a name for himself 1972, when he found Roland Corporatn, and spearhead the creatn of synthizers and dm mach, cludg the TR-808. It was one of the earlit programmable dm mach the dtry, and eventually changed the sound of popular mic. What ma the 808 different was that the sounds did not remble real percsn, and were more like a “futuristic” terpretatn of mon sounds: bass, dms, snare, cymbals, and more. The mache particularly stood out for s powerful bass dm sound.</p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent clear-both block"><div class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup my-40"><iame width="560" height="315" src=" ameborr="0" allowfullscreen></iame></div></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">When the 808 first lnched 1980, failed mercially. Inially, was seen as a toy that ma robotic sounds, rather than a ser stment. Electronic mic wasn’t vogue yet, and Roland disntued the 808 1983. Its ma rival, the Ln LM-1, had a crisper sound and more sal succs. But the 808 built a cult followg among unrground producers. It was more affordable (wh a $1,200 price tag pared to the LM-1’s $5,000), had an easier terface, and me preload wh 16 analog sounds. Eventually was ed on more h rerds than any other dm mache, cludg hs like Whney Hoton’s “I Wanna Dance Wh Somebody,” SOS Band’s “Jt be Good To Me,” and Talkg Heads’ “Psycho Killer.”  </p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent clear-both block"><div class="my-9"><div class="transn-all duratn-300 ease--out"><div class="fixed set-0 h-[110vh] w-full bg-whe transn-all duratn-300 ease--out z-[-1] cursor-flt opacy-0"></div><div role="button" aria-label="Zoom" tabx="0" class="visible z-30 w-full orig-center transn-all duratn-300 ease--out cursor-zoom-"><figure class="transn-all duratn-300 ease--out lg:mx-0"><div><div class="duet--media--ntent-warng relative" style="paddg-top:66.72354948805462%"><span style="box-sizg:borr-box;display:block;overflow:hidn;width:ial;height:ial;background:none;opacy:1;borr:0;marg:0;paddg:0;posn:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0"><img alt="Marv Gaye." src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" dg="async" 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style="posn:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizg:borr-box;paddg:0;borr:none;marg:to;display:block;width:0;height:0;m-width:100%;max-width:100%;m-height:100%;max-height:100%;object-f:ver" siz="(max-width: 1023px) 100vw, 744px" srcSet="(293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 376w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 384w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 415w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 480w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 540w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 640w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 750w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 828w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 1080w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 1200w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 1440w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 1920w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 2048w, (293x196:294x197):format(webp)/ 2400w" src="(293x196:294x197):format(webp)/"/></noscript></span></div></div></figure></div></div><div class="duet--media--ptn pt-6 font-polysans-mono text-12 font-light leadg-130 trackg-1"><figptn class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup le text-gray-13 dark:text-gray-e9 [&>a:hover]:text-black [&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&>a:hover]:text-gray-e9 dark:[&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-gray-63 [&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray-13 dark:[&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray-63"><em>Marv Gaye.</em></figptn> <ce class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup le not-alic text-gray-63 dark:text-gray-bd [&>a:hover]:text-gray-63 [&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&>a:hover]:text-gray-bd dark:[&>a:hover]:shadow-unrle-gray [&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray-63 dark:[&>a]:text-gray-bd dark:[&>a]:shadow-unrle-gray">Photo: <a href=">The Selvedge Yard</a></ce></div></div></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">The emergence of the dm mache was ccial to the formatn of entire areas of mic — pecially hip-hop, but also subgenr like Miami bass, acid hoe, and Detro techno. Before the 808, producers would dig for dm sampl and meticuloly loop them to create origal dm patterns. Wh the arrival of dm mach, sampl and live dmmers beme unnecsary. Producers were able to tweak their own patterns out of the 808’s “robotic” and “toy-like” sounds, which ma possible for nearly anyone to produce mic. Dm mach like the 808 spawned the era of “bedroom producers” such as Rick Rub (who ed an 808 his NYU dorm) and Pete Rock. Aika Bambaataa was the first hip-hop act to put the mache on the map wh his semal 1982 rerd “<a href=">Pla Rock</a>.” It also h mastream succs wh Marv Gaye’s 1982 h “<a href=">Sexual Healg</a>.”</p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent clear-both block md:float-left md:mr-30 md:w-[320px] lg:-ml-100"><div class="duet--article--article-pullquote mb-20"><div class="mb-10 h-[22px] w-[65px] bg-ankl"></div><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup relative bg-repeatg-l-dark bg-[length:1px_1.2em] pb-8 font-polysans text-28 font-medium leadg-120 trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:bg-repeatg-l-light dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple">The 808 broke down the walls between genr</p></div></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">Nearly 40 years after the 808 h the market, hip-hop still reli on the mache, and untls pyt ks have been built and shared onle to mimic the origal sounds of s sharp high-hat, snare, and wbell. It’s a sought-after sound, wh most producers claimg the pyts are nowhere near the idsyncratic ton of the origal. The 808 end up beg ed by inic acts such as Run-DMC, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, and Public Enemy. Kanye Wt even dited an entire album to the sound, wh every song g an 808, the most popular beg “<a href=">Love Lockdown</a>.” The 808 sound the begng of the track is likened to a heartbeat, perhaps the cleart parison of what a strong 808 sound is. There’s even a full-length documentary lled <a href="><em>808</em></a><em>, </em>trackg the importance of the mache.</p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent clear-both block"><div class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup my-40"><iame width="560" height="315" src=" ameborr="0" allowfullscreen></iame></div></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">The 808 beme a fixture hip-hop culture, not only as a tool for producers but as a fg sound of the genre. When the New York epicenter of hip-hop started to move toward other mach the 1990s, the 808 held s roots  Southern hip-hop wh artists like Lil Jon (who has even been acced of <a href=">ovesg the handclap sound</a>). It’s still as ccial as ever, and has spawned the creatn of productn groups such as <a href=">808 Mafia</a> (Southsi & Lex Luger), who are often creded wh creatg Atlanta’s “trap” sound, wh one of the signature elements beg the 808 bass dm. Trap producers Metro Boom and Sonny Digal also rely heavily on the 808 sound, and they’re rponsible for 90 percent of today’s most popular Migos and Future rerds — “<a href=">Mask Off</a>” beg the most recent<em>.</em> Most, if not all, chart-toppg hip-hop rerds today and the past 30 years have probably ed some element of an 808. </p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">Step outsi of hip-hop, and the 808 legacy n be found elsewhere, particularly pop mic. Startg as early as Cybotron’s “Clear,” and heard as recently as Jamie XX’s “Gosh,” the 808 brought a new level of power to pop’s sound. It also beme heavily ed  prent-day EDM, wh artists such as Diplo and David Guetta champng s elements sgl and llaboratns. </p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent clear-both block"><div class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup my-40"><iame width="560" height="315" src=" ameborr="0" allowfullscreen></iame></div></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">The 808 broke down the walls between genr, and spawned llaboratns between some of the biggt acts om different spac. Bee the 808 was so adaptable, was like the first open-sourced sound, wh artists buildg on each other’s terpretatns and makg their own. Lil Jon and Usher’s “Yeah” was an unlikely llaboratn that showsed an R&B sger on an 808 and ma Usher stantly relevant aga. Marv Gaye’s “Sexual Healg” is nowhere near a hip-hop or techno rerd, yet  relied entirely on the 808. The 808 is like the not-so-secret sce of h rerds — sprkle an 808 dm, and your song stantly sounds better. </p></div><div class="duet--article--article-body-ponent"><p class="duet--article--dangeroly-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph mb-20 font-fkroman text-18 leadg-160 -trackg-1 selectn:bg-ankl-20 dark:text-whe dark:selectn:bg-blurple [&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-ankl dark:[&_a:hover]:shadow-highlight-blurple [&_a]:shadow-unrle-black dark:[&_a]:shadow-unrle-whe">The TR-808 forced artists to thk differently about not only the beat nstctns but about flows and melodi. Wh no shortage of ftivals and clubs 2017, the 808 is the cril element signed for huge speakers and club systems. It’s safe to say that producers today create rerds wh this md. Although the 808 tablished self as a magil tool for stud nerds and prolific artists a short time, s legacy is still evolvg every day. The possibili are endls, and we have Ikutaro Kakehashi to thank for that.</p></div></div><div class="mb-40 mt-30"><button class="duet--article--ments-button group le-flex h-40 w-full ems-center jtify-center round-[2px] borr-[1px] borr-solid borr-blurple font-polysans-mono text-11 font-light upperse trackg-12 text-blurple hover:bg-blurple hover:text-whe md:w-to md:px-30"><svg class="mr-10 le pt-2" width="12" height="14" fill="none" viewBox="0 0 12 12" stroke-width="1px" xmlns="><tle>Comments .

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