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NAZI DAD AMERIN BETY WAS NOT GAY!

My iend and I were talkg about . I didnt thk he was gay. I thought he was dog to see if somethg was gog on wh his son and lter. My... * american beauty gay dad *

In the 1999 movie Amerin Bety, Ricky (the weird plastic bag guy) is pretty much hated by his father (Colonel Fts), who is a homophobe wh Nazi relics his home.

I know there is a theory that the Colonel is actually gay, based on when he kiss Lter, which may have led him to killg Lter, but I believe is eper than that.

In short, the Colonel portrays a number of characteristics of homosexual self-hatred, repeatedly observg the joggers (and Lter) wh evint tert, but then aggrsively qutng his son when he shows what he perceiv to be homosexual tras (he reacts very poorly when he se the shower scene om Top Gun on his son's monor, for example). He nonts his son who nfirms that he's gay (and workg as a male prostute, no ls).

WAS RICKY'S DAD AMERIN BETY GAY?

Okay, so here's the qutn, do you thk that the Colonel, the angry dad of Ricky Amerin Bety, was actually gay?

This isn't part of my own belief, I was talkg to a iend about the movie today and he mentned how he was gay, we then entered a bate about wh me believg that he isn't really gay, that the scene we see where he tri to kiss Lter is as a rult due to distrs that he believ his son is gay which him to be nfed as to how he views gay people. His son is sentially a part of him, he (Ricky) is arguably the most important part of his father's life (sce he is not picted wh any other iends or showg affectn to his wife) and how he is raised exactly like how Fts wanted/wants to be, havg his son 'turn out gay' means that his view on gay people, his son and his imprsn on the perfect male tertwe, th havg him be nfed as to how he feels about the whole oral, he has a mixture of nfed emotns and don't know what to brg out, you get my pot. But, my iend argu that he was gay all along and fdg out his son was gay (even though he is not) mak him feel more alright to be gay (we n wns sometim homophobia dividuals who are nial of beg attracted to be men or don't want to be 'ught) and that the explanatn as to why he has a wife and a son is jt as a rult of him also beg somewhat bisexual.

I'm 100% that I'm right bee I really n't see how the lonel is actually gay, and how that would ntribute to the story, also would remove some of the pth to the story terms of each character's evolutn (the father wouldn't have changed, he would have jt been more 'open' about his sexualy, unlike other characters who change as the movie progrs, this pot is if the father is actually gay), so this post is really about so I n get the pot of view om you guys and tell my iend ''I told you so''. Trapped the Closet That's another thg about Frank—he really approv of heterosexual behavr and he really don't like gay people. After meetg the Jims next door, for example, he go on a whole homophobic rant to Ricky:FRANK: How e the faggots always have to b your face?

DID RICKY TELL HIS FATHER HE IS GAY, SO HE WOULD KILL LTER?

Frank eaks out, and of urse, we thk 's bee he's upset that (he thks) Ricky is gay—and when he shows up at Lter's door, we're ready for a brawl. Unfortunately, his vulnerabily don't pay off, sce Lter isn't actually gay—and the shame of the whole cint seems like 's jt too much for Frank to bear.

It's ail and superficial and unrveloped, and if you try to attach a bunch of ornaments to (homophobia, alienatn, succs, midlife cris, ambn, love), falls apart.

Nazi dad amerin bety was NOT gay! Was Ricky's dad Amerin Bety gay? I didnt thk he was gay.

‘A FAY LIKE OURS’: PORTRAS OF GAY FATHERHOOD

My iend thks he was gay himself and was tryg to hi by beg this tough ary dad. Fts service the Mar, a sequence that unequivolly tablished his homosexual leangs.

THREE SGLE, GAY DADS REFLECT ON FATHERHOOD, SURROGACY JOURNEYS

Fts se the man die and to believe that he is beg punished for the "s" of beg gay. Well, he spects that he is havg some sort of gay relatns wh his son. As for the whole him fdg out he was gay the ary thg...

[hr][/blockquote] Do you really thk an extremely homophobic man would go through that? No offense, but you have to be pretty thick to not know he was gay by the end of the movie.

As stated other answers, Ricky told his father he was gay to disgt him. What Ricky didn’t know, was his father had been harborg gay feelgs himself, which he then tri to brg to un wh Lter. Once Lter turns him down and rrects his misrmatn about beg gay, the Colonel feels overwhelmed wh guilt and shame brought on by ternalized homophobia and murrs Lter to assuage his own feelgs.

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