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Will there be chicken or fish for dner? Will the drs be black tie or cktail attire? But for same-sex upl that ci to tie the knot, there’s one qutn that requir an even lengthier discsn: Who gets to keep their last name?</p><p>Tradn has long dictated that a woman is to adopt her hband’s name after marriage, and while more women than ever are choosg to keep their main nam, the majory—<a href=">around 80 to 90 percent, studi have shown</a>—still abi by the old ctom. There are exceptns, of urse. Addg a send last name is a popular alternative, à la <a href="><strong>Angela Jolie Pt</strong></a> or <a href="><strong>Beyoncé Knowl-Carter</strong></a>. And then there’s the rare se of a hband adoptg his wife’s name, like <a href="><strong>Zoe Saldana’</strong></a>s spoe, Mar, who <a href=">opted for his wife’s surname</a>. But when genr norms go out the wdow, the cisn n take on a whole new level of plexy and nfn.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>This year’s <a href=">landmark Supreme Court lg</a>, which legalized gay marriage around the untry, means same-sex upl will be facg the name-change qutn more than ever before. Project manager <strong>Barrie Segal</strong> and her wife, <strong>Anne Alexanr</strong>, who recently wed New York, hadn’t discsed the issue until they were si Cy Hall. “The way works is when you’re filg your marriage license, you have to ci then and there if you want to change your name,” said Alexanr. “It didn’t even occur to me until then,” Segal add. “The only person who even asked me who was gog to take the other’s name was my dad.”</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>Segal and her wife ultimately cid to keep their own nam. While <em>Bloomberg</em> edor <strong>Chris Rovzar</strong>, who married his hband last year, cid to keep his last name for profsnal reasons. “When you’re a job where your name is really a part of what you do and your work, ’s mon to have an stct not to change your name,” Rovzar said. It’s not jt wrers or actors who are attached to their nam; as social media be an creasgly important part of our liv, many are hant to change their long-standg profil or handl.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="9pzs3re"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="jbfoua"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa dUONRr body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Back the seventi, a woman’s choice to keep her main name had more to do wh polics than practily. Today, same-sex upl are rebellg agast nventn as well. “We already jumped to an stutn that barely acknowledged , so why abi by all their other l?” said <em>DIS</em> Magaze Web producer <strong>Nick Scholl</strong> about his cisn not to take his hband’s name. Lawyer <strong>Richard Mollot,</strong> who married his hband <strong>Chris Donnellan</strong> 2010, feels the same way. “To me, the whole pot of the marriage is to validate people’s relatnship and love for another,” Mollot said. “I don’t thk you need to replite everythg that has gone on history.”</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="rmkcqi"></div></div><p>Yet some upl that never nsired changg their nam when enterg marriage rensir the issue when ntemplatg the possibily of havg kids. “The real impet to changg my name was knowg we were gog to have children, and we wanted them to feel part of one fay and not have different nam,” explaed <strong>Ali Bird,</strong> director of The Wall Group, who adopted her wife’s surname back 2007. And while Rovzar is agast changg his name for reer reasons, the edor says that ’s a different story for his future children. “Havg been saddled wh an unpronounceable name, I wouldn’t want to put my kids through that,” he said. “My hband’s name is Barrett, so I thk we would probably go wh that.”</p><p>The mon cir among most upl was simply optg for the more pronounceable or pleasant-soundg name. Bird, for stance, much preferred her wife’s surname over her main name of Schwartz. “A last name like Bird, there is no qutn, [is] the better last name.”</p><p>But what if the answer isn’t always as clear-cut? Rather than flip a , <strong>Martha Wt</strong> and <strong>Tanya Kalivas</strong> chose to host a soccer match on the day of their rehearsal dner to terme whose name they would adopt. The two even dubbed the event "Game for the Name." “We both played llege soccer and are crazy petive,” explaed Wt. “We told iends and fay and everyone got on board and loved the ia.”</p><p>The match, which was <a href=">filmed for <em>The New York Tim</em> Vows sectn</a>, was an emotnal experience for both fai. “I have immigrant parents who are very proud of our herage,” Kalivas explaed. “While Martha’s fay is om Texas and also have a very strong herage. So there was a lot of passn on the field.”</p><p>As luck would have , a last-mute ll—which Wt still ntts—rulted a tie. Overtime wasn’t possible, as the two bris had to sh out to have their hair and makp done for that eveng’s ftivi, so the verdict was left uncid. A year later, the two still haven’t settled on a name for their future fay. While there have been talks of a rematch, Kalivas jt might nce beforehand. “I spect Wt will w the end,” Kalivas said. “Partially based on Martha’s ep, <em>ep</em> belief that her team really won.”</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="9v0njr"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS kLQIUk grid-layout--adrail narrow 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Parents of a gay son who will be marryg his boyiend are thrilled by the marriage, but ls so that their son is droppg their last name.

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WHAT DO IT MEAN WHEN A GAY SON TAK HIS HBAND’S SURNAME?

* gay couple name change *

But when genr norms go out the wdow, the cisn n take on a whole new level of plexy and year’s landmark Supreme Court lg, which legalized gay marriage around the untry, means same-sex upl will be facg the name-change qutn more than ever before. · “I thk the son is celebratg the fact that he has this optn, which was not available to gay people before now.

”· “For gay upl, choosg one name or the other n have ls to do wh the ‘dynamics’ of the relatnship than who has a ‘better name, but outsirs’ worryg/wonrg about this says a lot about existg sex-role stereotyp.

HOW TO ADDRS A MARRIED GAY COUPLE WH THE SAME LAST NAME

The challenge of takg your spoe’s name when you’re gay. * gay couple name change *

I emailed Andrew Solomon, the thor of the acclaimed “Far From the Tree, ” and hband of John Habich Solomon, for his take on John’s name change:“We felt that the same way that ’s radil for heterosexual women to refe to change their nam, ditg that they haven’t been subsumed to a new inty wh marriage, so is equally radil for gay people to change their nam; associat firmly wh the ia of fay, of permanence, of beg part of a many-generatns tradn of timacy. Feel ee to apply the l when you’re referrg to a married gay uple on thgs like weddg vatns, holiday rds, and letters. Addrs each member of a male married gay uple as “Mr.

All the l for addrsg a married gay uple wh the same last name apply whether they have chosen to e 1 last name or to e a hyphenated versn of both their last nam. There are general l you n follow, but not every gay uple has the same preference, so they might appreciate if you ask.

Addrs each member of a female married gay uple as “Mrs. This uld apply anytime you're vg a married gay person you know to some kd of formal event and you're vg they're partner as a "pl 1. There are no l set stone about whose name you have to put first when you’re addrsg a gay uple.

CHANGG YOUR NAME AFTER A SAME-SEX (GAY) MARRIAGE.

For example, one member of a gay married uple might intify as more feme and would th prefer to be lled Mrs. Changg Your Name After Marriage When You're Gay - The New York Tim.

CHANGG YOUR NAME AFTER MARRIAGE WHEN YOU’RE GAY

| Changg Your Name After Marriage When You’re Gay.

Changg Your Name After Marriage When You’re Gay. Darryl Bh/Associated Prs Changg legal documents like Social Secury rds and passports n be difficult for gay upl who get married.

While changg a name after marriage n often be a stggle for heterosexual women and men, ’s a lot harr if you’re gay. area where beg gay n st you more). Problems now are bee of “misunrstandg and misrmatn at the passport and Social Secury offic, ” said Karen Loewy, senr staff attorney at Gay & Lbian Advot & Defenrs, a.

A SYMBOL OF MARRIAGE: GAY UPL TAKE ON PARTNER'S LAST NAME

It is important to note that the same-sex soc-sexual behavr observed the study is distct om homosexual behavr bee s motivatn and purpose are social, said Jean-Baptiste Le, who studi primate behavr at the Universy of Lethbridge Canada and was not volved the new rearch. To be classified as te homosexual behavr, the form, motivatn and functn would all have to be sexual nature, he said.

Adam* said was dangero to e out as gay his home untry and feared beg forced to an arranged marriage wh a woman.He said he was "so lucky" to wed his soulmate, Ray, Manchter and wish everyone uld marry who they love. There are more than 60 untri wh laws that crimalise same-sex sexual acts acrdg to the Internatnal Lbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Associatn, cludg Sdi Arabia.'Authentilly myself'Ray said he had also stggled growg up gay the 1970s and 80s England, which was "tough".He said his relig school "dmmed to you, 'you are gog to hell'".When Adam returned home to Sdi Arabia, spe beg more than 3,000 apart and later rtricted by the Covid-19 panmic, they kept touch daily and the romance blossomed.Three years ago, Ray proposed on a vio ll and after succsfully applyg for a UK fiancé visa, Adam moved to Manchter December 2022.

GAY UPLE CHARGED WH MOLTG THEIR ADOPTED SONS ALSO PIMPED THEM OUT TO PEDOPHILE RG, REPORT CLAIMS

Adam said he had been aaid to even wear lours his home untry so the first thg he did when he moved was start to "grow my mullet, got my ears pierced and booked appotments for tattoos".He relled how, ntrast, one of his gay iends Sdi had been forced to marry a woman, addg: "It has ed not only his life but the life of his wife."Danny Beard on Same Sex Love and MarriageDanny explor same-sex weddgs, fdg out why upl chose to get married, the challeng unrpng this cisn and what mak the wedd relatnships work.The uple said they now wanted to help people who were not as ee and strive for "equaly for everyone"."Now I'm here a safe place I want to fight for others to be able to marry who they want," Adam said."I'm so lucky but I want everyone else Sdi to marry the one they love whout facg discrimatn and persecutn." Image source, Fay photographImage ptn, Peter McGrah and David Cabreza say they are "very proud" to have been the first same-sex uple married EnglandMore than 40,000 same-sex marriag took place between 2014 and 2020, acrdg to the Office for Natnal StatisticsPeter McGrah and David Cabreza, origally om Stland and the US, ma history when they beme the first same-sex uple to marry England on 29 March 2014.The trailblazers married jt after midnight at Islgton Town Hall. The uple, who live London, said a "really betiful memory" was on the way home when one of their sons shouted out of the black b wdow to Trafalgar Square, "My dads jt got married" and cheered "Yay, gay marriage"."It was so sweet seeg him so happy," Mr Cabreza said. In October 2008, racg agast California's gay marriage ban, Chloe and Frankie Frankeny wed legally San Francis wh one chore already done: Chloe had taken her wife's name two years before.

"Wh a battle over the state's ban on gay marriage possibly head to the U.

It's a symbol renred even stronger now that legal gay marriag are on hold California, and for partners who've never had the optn.

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Alas, when to namg nventns, whether for straight or gay people, there's no one-size-fs-all solutn. Still, I appreciate the appeal for help cidg what's right.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Qutns about same-sex upl buted on the etiquette scene at least three s ago, when Judh Mart (a.k.a. Miss Manners) answered this qutn: “What should I say when troduced to a homosexual uple?” Her don’t-miss-a beat retort: “How do you do? How do you do?”</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">One of the reasons I love this answer is that Mart’s advice gets to the heart of the matter: Suatns change but the prcipl of etiquette do not. The l for addrsg same-sex upl are the same as for oppose-sex on, wh a few twists. Here’s my take on some of the optns:</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">• Different nam: “Mr. Steven Petrow and Mr. Jam Bean” (formal); “Steven Petrow and Jim Bean” (rmal).</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">For the rerd, my hband's last name is Bean, not Smh. Addrsg your rd to this way would be perfect, as is the facto standard for any married uple, gay or straight, wh different last nam. (Acrdg to a <a href=" tle=">2013 gay weddg survey</a> by the Knot and the Advote, more than 6 10 gay upl keep their own surnam.) Both variatns nvey our mment bee that ltle njunctn, "and," signifi that we are a uple.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">By the way, mted, habatg upl — regardls of sexual orientatn — should be addrsed exactly as if they were married the days. This go double for same-sex upl that live stat that still (for now) ban same-sex marriage. (Oh, and you n relax about who go first. When doubt, let the alphabet be your gui.)</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div id="gift-share-le" data-ttid="gift-share-le" class="PJLV PJLV-ilotWTr-css hi-for-prt"><button aria-haspopup="dialog" aria-expand="false" aria-ntrols="gift-share-drawer" role="button" tabx="0" aria-label="Share this article" id="gift-share-drawer-ntrol-le" data-ttid="gift-share-drawer-ntrol-le" class="wpds-c-PJLV wpds-c-gsmDXe wpds-c-gsmDXe-goNocI-placement-Inle foc-highlight"><div data-ttid="gift-share-terstial-trigger" class="wpds-c-kPqOkS wpds-c-kPqOkS-jtSXsT-hasSubsText-false"><span class="wpds-c-hBJqc"><span class="wpds-c-dzSncg">Share this article</span></span><span class="wpds-c-eCvK"><span class="wpds-c-enedHQ wpds-c-enedHQ-cCdK-isShown-false">Share</span><svg xmlns=" fill="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 16 16" aria-hidn="te" focable="false" role="img" class="wpds-c-fBqPWp wpds-c-fDHGth"><path fill="currentColor" d="M8 .6v3.8h.1c-4.4 0-7.3 4.5-6.9 8.8.1.8.2 1.2.2 1.2l.2 1 .4-1.3c.8-2 2-4 6.2-3.9H8v4l7-6.9L8 .6Zm1 11.3V9.3h-.9c-3 0-4.8.5-6.2 2.9.5-3.3 2.7-6.8 6.2-6.8H9V3l4.5 4.4L9 11.9Z"></path></svg></span></div></button></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">• Hyphenated: “Ms. Malyn Petrow-Cohen and Ms. Julie Petrow-Cohen” (formal); “Maddy and Julie Petrow-Cohen” (rmal).</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">My sister and her wife created a hyphenated name so that they and their two dghters would have one fay inty. Ined, the four of them are known as “The Petrow-Cohens.” Had they cid to be their nam to one new one — the leadg ntenr was “Petroen” — my holiday rd to them would read: “Ms. Malyn and Ms. Julie Petroen.” Anecdotally, I know many younger gay and lbian upl that are creatg a new name and inty together.</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">A fsier variatn on the hyphenated optn is to reach out to the French and addrs the envelope to “The Mdam Malyn and Julie Petrow-Cohen” or, for two men, “The Msrs Jam Bean and Steven Petrow.” That beg said, I agree wh Miss Manners, who admted, “The are odd plurals.”</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">• Retro-tradnal: “Mr. and Mr. Matthew Harris” (formal); “Matt and Tony Harris” (rmal).</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">There are a number of gay upl where one groom has taken the surname of his new hband, droppg his fay name altogether, which is on the upswg among younger lbian and gay upl seekg to emulate tradnal norms. It's also the trend among heterosexual upl, wh a 2011 study om the Knot reportg that <a href=" tle="">86 percent of women</a> take their hband's name. One California uple I know is addrsed as "Mr. and Mr. Matthew Harris," which they explaed is not a reflectn of unbridled patriarchy or spoal submissn. Tony Harris was simply never very close to his fay or attached to their name, explaed Matt Harris to me. I n see that for the Matthew Harris, nothg says same-sex married like "Mr. and Mr."</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb dn db-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-sktop"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-none pt-lg pb-lg" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"><div>Advertisement</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">(Still, unls you know for a fact that a uple prefers this form of addrs — by g on personal statnery or return addrs labels — I would advise you to go wh “Mr. Matthew Harris and Mr. Tony Harris” stead.)</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Of urse, the given-name-gone-missg suatn is certaly not unique to same-sex upl. I wouldn’t dare addrs my sister--law, Nancy Clarke, as “Mrs. Jay Petrow.” As she’s told me for nearly three s now: My name is Nancy Clarke. Believe me, their Christmas rd will be addrsed to “Ms. Nancy Clarke and Mr. Jay Petrow.”</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><div class="cb db dn-ns" data-qa="article-body-ad" data-ttid="article-body-ad-mobile"><div aria-hidn="te" class="hi-for-prt relative flex jtify-center ntent-box ems-center b bh mb-md mt-sm pt-sm pb-sm" style="m-height:250px;borr-top-lor:;borr-bottom-lor:"><div class="center absolute w-100 borr-box" style="top:"><div class="dib gray-dark pl-xs pr-xs font-sans-serif light font-xxxxs lh-md" style="--primary-borr-lor:"></div></div><div data-ttid="placeholr-box" class="w-100 h-100 absolute flex flex-lumn jtify-center borr-box bg-offwhe" style="width:300px;height:250px"><div class="flex flex-lumn jtify-center font-sans-serif center font-xxs light gray-dark lh-md"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">Here’s my fal piece of advice: Unls you know otherwise, assume same-sex upl are keepg their nam and addrs them as such. If you want to be sure, jt ask. Coupl, if you’re changg your name, let iends and fay know. For stance, when wrg a weddg announcement, clu a le that says somethg like: Bri A is takg Bri B’s name, or whatever moniker you’ve cid upon. Now, to the next prsg qutn: prted or digal holiday rds?</p></div><div class="article-body" data-qa="article-body"><p data-ttid="drop-p-letter" data-el="text" class="wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css overriStyl font-py" dir="null">E-mail qutns to Civili at <a class="show" href=""></a> (unfortunately not all qutns n be answered). You n reach him on Facebook at <a class="show" href="></a> and on Twter <a href=">@stevenpetrow</a>. Jo him for a chat onle at <a class="show" href="></a> at 1 p.m. on Dec. 2.</p></div><div class="wpds-c-ipATMk wpds-c-ipATMk-hCiGAB-removeMobileStyl-te"><div class="wpds-c-dhzjXW wpds-c-dhzjXW-iPJLV-css overriStyl mt-md tt"><div id="gift-share-end" data-ttid="gift-share-end" class="PJLV PJLV-idiqKOk-css hi-for-prt"><button aria-haspopup="dialog" aria-expand="false" aria-ntrols="gift-share-drawer" role="button" tabx="0" aria-label="Share this article" id="gift-share-drawer-ntrol-end" data-ttid="gift-share-drawer-ntrol-end" class="wpds-c-PJLV wpds-c-gsmDXe wpds-c-gsmDXe-iIVoLq-placement-Shortcut foc-highlight"><div class="wpds-c-UazGY" id="gift-share-shortcut" data-ttid="gift-share-shortcut"><svg xmlns=" fill="var(--wpds-lors-primary)" viewBox="0 0 16 16" aria-hidn="te" focable="false" role="img" class="wpds-c-fVfumU "><path fill="currentColor" d="M8 .6v3.8h.1c-4.4 0-7.3 4.5-6.9 8.8.1.8.2 1.2.2 1.2l.2 1 .4-1.3c.8-2 2-4 6.2-3.9H8v4l7-6.9L8 .6Zm1 11.3V9.3h-.9c-3 0-4.8.5-6.2 2.9.5-3.3 2.7-6.8 6.2-6.8H9V3l4.5 4.4L9 11.9Z"></path></svg><div class="PJLV wpds-c-kwcHlj">Share</div></div></button></div><div class="wpds-c-hcekgi"><div class="mb-lg-mod" data-qa="ments-btn-div"><button aria-label="Scroll to the ments sectn" data-qa="ments-btn" class="wpds-c-kSOqLF wpds-c-kSOqLF-SQjOY-variant-sendary wpds-c-kSOqLF-eHdizY-nsy-flt wpds-c-kSOqLF-ejCoEP-in-left wpds-c-kSOqLF-igqYgPb-css ments hi-for-prt"><svg xmlns=" viewBox="0 0 16 16" fill="currentColor" aria-hidn="te" focable="false" role="img" class="wpds-c-fBqPWp "><path d="M14 14V2H2v9.47h8.18L12.43 13ZM3 10.52V3h10v9.23l-2.5-1.66Z"></path></svg><span></span> Comments</button></div></div></div><div class="PJLV PJLV-iipsdti-css"><div></div></div><div class="PJLV PJLV-iipsdti-css"><div></div></div><sectn class="PJLV PJLV-iipsdti-css dn-ns hi-for-prt" data-ttid="mostRead" subscriptns-sectn="ntent"><div data-ttid="lazy-most-read-parent" class=""><div style="m-height:800px"></div></div></sectn><div class="PJLV PJLV-ickXkbz-css"><div data-qa="newsletter" class="hi-for-prt relative"><div class="dib w-100"><div><div class="flex jtify-center align self-center center transn-all duratn-400 ease--out" data-qa="sc-newsletter-signup" aria-label=""><svg aria-labelledby="react-aria-1-aria" role="img" viewBox="0 0 100 80"><tle id="react-aria-1-aria">Loadg....

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