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Contents:

• CAN SOMEONE BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN? IS POSSIBLE TO BE A GAY CHRISTIAN?
• CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN?
• IS POSSIBLE TO BE A GAY CHRISTIAN?
• DO GAY PEOPLE GO TO HEAVEN?
• CAN A PERSON BE GAY AND STILL BE A CHRISTIAN?
• 10 REASONS GOD LOV GAY CHRISTIANS
• CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN? UNRSTANDG THE DEBATE
• CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN? HERE’S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
• HOW TO BE AN OPENLY GAY CHRISTIAN
• HOW TO RENCILE YOUR CHRISTIAN FAH WH YOUR GAY LIFE
• CAN CHRISTIANS BE GAY?
• CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN?: RPONDG WH LOVE AND TTH TO QUTNS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALY PAPERBACK – ILLTRATED, MAY 6, 2014
• YOU N’T SAY YOU ARE ‘GAY’ IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, CHURCH L
• CHRISTIAN COLLEGE FIR GAY SOCCER COACH OVER SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS
• LETTERS TO THE EDOR: I’M GAY AND DON’T WANT TO PATRONIZE BIGOTS. THANKS, SUPREME COURT
• IS ANYONE BORN GAY?
• “HELP! I’M A GAY CHRISTIAN”
• IF YOU ARE GAY AND A CHRISTIAN
• BLOG: CAN GAY CHRISTIANS GO TO HEAVEN?
• DARE TO ASK: CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN AS WELL?
• HOW TO KNOW IF YOU ARE GAY
• HOW TO COME OUT TO STRICT RELIG PARENTS WHEN YOU'RE GAY
• HOW SHOULD CHRISTIANS RPOND TO GAY FRIENDS OR FAY MEMBERS?
• BEG A GAY CHRISTIAN N BE HURTFUL AND GELLG. BUT I REFE TO LOSE FAH
• WHAT DO THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT BEG BORN GAY?
• GAY CHRISTIAN?
• KEV SPACEY: I N’T TELL WHETHER MEN ARE GAY JT BY LOOKG AT THEM

CAN SOMEONE BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN? IS POSSIBLE TO BE A GAY CHRISTIAN?

In fact, Pl's list clus, "the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexualy, nor thiev, nor the greedy, nor dnkards, nor revilers, nor swdlers" (1 Corthians 6:9-10).

A spate of books and vios and article and blogs would tell that, ed, that is not the gospel and that the good news of J is that you n follow Him and enjoy a mted, homosexual relatnship too. 4:12-13) we will humble ourselv before the Lord, keepg our foc on J and askg the Father to give His heart for those who intify as LGBT, lettg the unequivol ttimony of Scripture gui , we will fd, what do the Word of God say about homosexual practice?

CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN?

The ttimony of Scripture remas unchanged: The Bible forbids homosexual is clear that the vast majory of those who have changed their views on what the Bible says about homosexualy and now believe “gay Christiany” have done so based on eher their own same-sex sir and attractns or their teractn wh “gay Christians” (or wh any gay or lbian person who challeng their assumptns) other words, they have not changed their thkg based on study of the Scriptur alone sce no new textual, archaeologil, soclogil, anthropologil, or philologil disveri have been ma the last fifty years that would e to read any of the biblil texts another way, is not that we have gaed some new sights to what the biblil text means based on the study of the Hebrew and Greek texts.

IS POSSIBLE TO BE A GAY CHRISTIAN?

This is the guaranteed path to Word of God, which reprents His heart and will for His creatn, is absolutely clear on the subject, prohibg all forms of homosexual practice. There are a few, very strong, very clear, referenc to homosexual practice—every one of them cidly negative—and then not a sgle reference to homosexual practice throughout the rt of the Bible. Throughout the Word, the only relatnships that were acceptable God’s sight or nsired normal for society were heterosexual relatnships, and so homosexual practice was eher irrelevant (bee had nothg to do wh the God-ordaed relatnships of marriage and fay and society) or, if mentned, explicly give jt one example out of hundreds, when a gay uple reads the Word and they e to Pl’s words Ephians 5:22, 25, “Wiv, subm to your own hbands, as to the Lord....

A man pl a man or a woman pl a woman nnot possibly share the same unn as a man and a woman sce they do not share the sential of fundamental samens and rephrase the famo axm of John Gray, namely, that men are om Mars and women are om Ven, Mars + Mars or Ven + Ven nnot ever equal Mars + the words of a man who has lived as a homosexual all his life (he’s now past 70) but has recently found the Lord, “Even an atheist n unrstand the lack of anatomil plementary and therefore blogil purpose male-to-male or female-to-female sexualy. What the biblil thors rejected, we are told, was man-boy relatnships, or male prostutn, or homosexual the sful practic were certaly rejected, but biblil thors like Pl were certaly aware of long-term, male-male importantly, Hebrews 4:13 stat that “no creature is hidn om [God’s] sight, but all are naked and exposed to the ey of him to whom we mt give acunt. ”And are they willg to say that the Lord J, who lerally looked to the hearts and souls of human begs—John 2:25 says that He knew what was man—didn’t unrstand that certa people were “gay?

DO GAY PEOPLE GO TO HEAVEN?

The gospel brgs good news to homosexual men and theologians tell that the tradnal gospel msage is a “bad tree, ” brgg forth the bad u of prsn, apostasy, and even suici among gay men and the ntrary, the msage of the gospel brgs fivens, eedom, hope, and liverance, as untls thoands of ex-gays n attt, by which I mean followers of J who no longer practice homosexualy. Do not be ceived; neher fornitors, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effemate, nor homosexuals, nor thiev, nor the veto, nor dnkards, nor revilers, nor swdlers, will her the kgdom of God” (1 Corthians 6:9-10).

If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly liv a homosexual liftyle – no, is not possible for such a person to tly be a Christian.

CAN A PERSON BE GAY AND STILL BE A CHRISTIAN?

When we ask if gay people go to heaven or hell, we may be g the label gay rather than nsirg the dividual who may be stgglg wh temptatn or nfed about his or her sexual inty. So then, one would no longer be intified by one's prev inty or slavery to any particular past s—whether as a dnkard, adulterer, homosexual, thief, vetor, idolator, fornitor, extortner, etc.

10 REASONS GOD LOV GAY CHRISTIANS

The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicg homosexuals, thiev, the greedy, dnkards, the verbally abive, and swdlers will not her the kgdom of God. When children stggle wh s, parents should pot them to the those who fend homosexualy, or who say nothg, tly lovg the homosexual, or are they simply seekg to avoid nflict?

CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN? UNRSTANDG THE DEBATE

For stance, if they are more worried about beg liked than beg tthful, do they really re for homosexuals more than those who are willg to risk their reputatn, and que possibly their safety, orr to speak the tth love?

Some morn Bible translatns say that “homosexuals” will not her the kgdom of God, but neher the ncept nor the word for people wh exclive same-sex attractn existed before the late 19th century. Matthew V is the thor of God and the Gay Christian and is the founr of The Reformatn Project, a Bible-based non-prof anizatn that seeks to reform church teachg on sexual orientatn and genr inty. In other words, some Christians affirm homosexualy not simply bee "love ws" but bee God seems to affirm urse there are a number of Christians who rpond to this - as most recently seen the Nashville Statement that basilly reaffirm the historil Christian view of homosexualy.

CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN? HERE’S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS

2) The Biblil Prohibns Aren't Sayg What We Thk They're SaygWhen you look more closely at the six biblil passag that addrs homosexualy, you'll realize they're not really sayg what we thought they and Gomorrah? However, new scientific disveri ma Christian relook at this all the new disveri we've learned about homosexualy recent years, isn't possible that our terpretatn of the Bible may be mistaken?

HOW TO BE AN OPENLY GAY CHRISTIAN

5) Gay Christians Are Really Stgglg Wh This IssuePerhaps the most powerful argument om affirmg Christians are the personal ttimoni of Christians who stggle wh same-sex attractn. And after readg the guys, there were actually a lot of thgs I appreciated about their example, I appreciated how well the Christians unrstand the tradnal view of homosexualy.

Christians who only read about homosexualy om guys like John Piper and Kev Deyoung tend to thk 's ridiculo how any self-profsg Christian uld possibly thk 's okay to be gay.

However, to bate the issue serly and tthfully, we mt seek an hont picture of what our opponents actually believe — workg om what we thk they believe is neher helpful nor there are people of many diverse beliefs and nvictns — cludg gay and lbian people — who oppose same-sex marriage, here are 10 foundatnal tths that rm the tradnal, orthodox Christian belief. If they brg up I Corthians 6:9 or I Timothy 1:10, tell them the translatn of the Greek words "malakos" and "arsenoko" as "gay" is ntroversial, as that meang was rare when the words were most mon.

HOW TO RENCILE YOUR CHRISTIAN FAH WH YOUR GAY LIFE

Even if you accept the ia that beg gay is a s (which most, if not all church do), remember that is jt a s - is the same to God as any other s (any s is enough to keep you out of Heaven, if not for J' vir atonement).

CAN CHRISTIANS BE GAY?

Try to mata a sense of humor if they make cluels or homophobic remarks, and remember that you are as cluels about other thgs as they are about you - try to keep a passnate perspective.

Read "The Gay Fah: Christ, Scripture, and Sexualy" by Sphero, which explas great tail how the Bible is actually very pro-gay and supportive of the homosexual believer... Th, even if we are ad wrong and homosexualy actually is a s, is the same to God as stealg a pack of gum terms of the ultimate effect - eher one is enough to e a person to be separated om God. However, you may fd that people are not willg to give up on their "hierarchy of s" - they nsir one s worse than another, and for many, homosexualy is still near the top of the list.

Most plac I've seen that are ok wh beg gay and a christian seems to go to great lenghts and twists wh the Scriptur to say 's ok while other plac that seem more "tradnal" say 's ok as long as you practise celebacy. You will have to make cisns about whether to go to a same-sex weddg, whether to have your dghter and her partner over for dner, and whether to attend a church wh a gay pastor. If you have read much on this issue, you know that there have been valiant attempts to reterpret the six passag that specifilly addrs homosexualy (Genis 19, Levic 18:22, Levic 20:13, Romans 1:24–27, 1 Corthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:10).

CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN?: RPONDG WH LOVE AND TTH TO QUTNS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALY PAPERBACK – ILLTRATED, MAY 6, 2014

Here are a few articl that expla why recent attempts to biblilly jtify the gay liftyle are misguid: “Why God and the Gay Christian Is Wrong about the Bible and Same-Sex Relatnships” by Christopher Yuan and “God, the Gospel, and the Gay Challenge—A Rponse to Matthew V” by Al Mohler. ” On the other si of the issue, God’s hols and ll for to be pure n be exprsed whout grace or passn: “Gay men and women jt need to choose to follow God and that’s the end of .

This view implicly or explicly supports efforts to alter someone’s sexual orientatn or genr inty through nversn therapy practic, and is sometim referred to as Si X or Ex-gay iology.

So one signifint reason why gay marriage wasn’t addrsed Scripture was bee wasn’t a cultural issue; marriage between two people of the same genr was out of the qutn, sce romantic feelgs was not the reason for marriage—procreatn ia of a personal sexual orientatn was foreign to them. ” The Greek words mistranslated as “homosexual” have historilly been translated as “sodom, ” “abers of themselv wh mankd, ” “liers wh mankd, ” “perverts, ” and “buggerers.

YOU N’T SAY YOU ARE ‘GAY’ IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, CHURCH L

(He also reluctantly and at length quot leadg gay theologians and lears whose eisegil readgs are unspeakably profane and blasphemo, and whose profsed personal nduct is shockg yet prented by them posive light; be forewarned. That different gospel is centered on self and claims that Christ somehow died for homosexuals to realize their "te" selv rather than, as for all of , to lay down their liv exchange for the gift of grace and fd their inti Christ.

Brown mak that I had prevly thought about but not the same way he mak is that the scriptur' prohibns agast homosexual acts as egreg s were que untercultural when they were wrten.

Although s unlikely that the biblil thors had any notn of sexual orientatn (for example, the term homosexual wasn't even ed until the late 19th century) for many people of fah, the Bible is looked to for timels guidance on what means to honor God wh our liv; and this most certaly clus our sexualy. ” In askg, “What do the Bible say about homosexualy” (or more appropriately stated, “what do the Bible say about attractn to someone of the same sex, ”) our task is to explore what the relevant biblil passag on the topic meant their origal ntext and what they mean for today. For example, Wley Hill is Associate New Ttament Profsor at ACNA’s ma semary, Try School For Mistry, as well as an Associate Prit at Try Cathedral, Ambridge, Pennsylvania – and intifi as a “Si B” gay man.

CHRISTIAN COLLEGE FIR GAY SOCCER COACH OVER SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS

“The word gay do not necsarily refer to sexual behavur; n jt as easily refer to one’s sexual preference or orientatn and say nothg, one way or the other, about how one is choosg to exprs that orientatn.

“Gog eper, some employ a very nuanced argument that while gay lt is sful, gay attractn self need not be ltful but n reprent an athetic appreciatn of bety and a sire for chaste iendship.

Geneva College, a Christian llege Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania, has reportedly fired a gay soccer ach for Instagram posts she ma, the Beaver County Tim reported Thursday. “She intifi as gay but remas celibate keepg wh the school’s , which forbids sex outsi of heterosexual marriage…she posted ‘Queer people offer prec gifts to the church: Don’t miss out’ and ‘J is radilly clive. (Kent Nishimura / Los Angel Tim) To the edor: I wonr if the LGBTQ+ muny realiz that the Supreme Court lg favor of a webse signer who didn’t want to create weddg s for gay upl n work our favor as well.

LETTERS TO THE EDOR: I’M GAY AND DON’T WANT TO PATRONIZE BIGOTS. THANKS, SUPREME COURT

(“How the ripple effect of the Supreme Court’s 303 Creative cisn uld swamp civil rights, ” Opn, July 12)As a gay man, I am always ncerned if the bs where I spend my money are supportive of my muny. Has a history of repeatedly sharg unfound nspiraci that man-ma chemils the environment uld be makg children gay or transgenr and g the femizatn of boys and masculizatn of girls.

The basels claim that chemils – particularly tap water – uld turn people gay has gaed populary wh nspiracy theorists over the years, most memorably wh nservative rad host Alex Jon, who said chemils the water were “turng the igg’ ogs gay. Alas, the future, make sure you ask about payment polici up ont to protect to Roxane Gay at Gay is an endowed profsor of media, culture and femist studi at Rutgers, the thor of the forthg “Opns” and a ntributg Opn wrer.

IS ANYONE BORN GAY?

The world tells you that you have two choic: Accept that you’re gay and fd a way to be a gay Christian even though the Bible says not to, or be alone and lonely forever. I thk that the reason gay people are so much pa isn’t bee the world hat gays and is homophobic, which is the polilly rrect explanatn you get the days, but ’s bee somethg went wrong and ’s paful not to be able to relate rrectly and healthily to people of the oppose sex.

She is a equent speaker for MOPS (Mothers of Pre-Schoolers) and Stonecroft Mistri (Christian Women's Connectns), and serv on the board of Livg Hope Mistri, a Christ-centered outreach to those alg wh unwanted homosexualy. Some suggt that homosexualy is an orientatn or sire toward same-sex relatnships – an attractn of men to men and women to women (I agree wh this, by the way – and I thk that people might well be ‘born that way’, the same way all of are born sners, wh temptatns toward specific ss that differ among ).

Th, there is no such thg as a ‘practicg homosexual Christian’ – – and therefore they will not go to heaven; not bee they are homosexuals, but bee they are not Christians. So get thee behd me, Satan, thy gabarde and polyter weave, 31, gay, Sydney, AtraliaCorthians 6:9 warns: "Do you not know the unrighteo will not her the kgdom of God?... " We all do well to heed this, 28, Annapolis, gay-bag Christians who e to save lost sheep n't whstand more than five mut of tailed Bible readg before they give up and look for someone more, 39, gay, DallasExpert saysDependg on your Bible, Corthians 6:9-10 refers to homosexuals...

“HELP! I’M A GAY CHRISTIAN”

Biblil bickerg asi, Jt Lee, founr of the 14, 000-member Gay Christian Network (), said many people talk of "Si A" or "Si B" gay A'ers support gay marriage and same-sex relatns; Si B'ers don't and rema B gay Christians say " 'I agree the Bible nmns gay sex, so I don't have , ' " said Lee, who grew up Southern Baptist and now falls to the Si A Christians mata gay people n't change their orientatn - they nmn the behavr alone, he A proponents say that don't go far enough, and that the Bible's stance isn't about "lovg, monogamo gay relatnships, " but sexual behavr the ntext of idolatry or perasty. And if that was te, then beg gay was at odds wh beg a good once a month or so, when everyone else’s ey were closed, I would sneak to the si of the altar and I’d pray.

Everythg that I’d loved about Christiany—the stori, the huy, the specificy and simplicy of God’s love—seemed to be prrized after Corey day, another boy named Blu told me that he’d heard I was gay. So was me, hky-sized khakis, wadg to church each week, privately reditg myself to God—a God who had killed Corey, probably ma me gay, and allowed timidatg high schoolers to our youth group.

Recent rearch strongly suggts that LGBT people who ntue to intify as Christian experience heightened “homonegativy” – negative and shame-filled feelgs about their sexualy – pared to non-relig, or even formerly Christian, LGBT people.

IF YOU ARE GAY AND A CHRISTIAN

If you have had romantic experienc or fantasi volvg people who are the same genr as you, then there is a good chance you are gay or bisexual, but 's okay if you're a ltle nfed.

BLOG: CAN GAY CHRISTIANS GO TO HEAVEN?

Kaltenbach’s unique story is tailed his new book Msy Grace: How a Pastor wh Gay Parents Learned to Love Others Whout Sacrificg Convictn and land him on the ont page of the New York Tim June.

’07) is the lead pastor at Disvery Church Simi Valley, Calif., and the thor of Msy Grace: How a Pastor wh Gay Parents Learned to Love Others Whout Sacrificg Convictn. Yet even when I’m 90% sure the person I’m addrsg will be acceptg, I still get that ltle jerky stomach-knot right before I say the words “gay” or “girliend” to someone new. Durg my unrgraduate gree, I basilly gave up gog to church altogether bee felt like all the Christian stunts were harned anti-gay ’s a time and a place for what I ll “activist church-gog”: gog to a church where you know you won’t be accepted jt to remd them that queer Christians do exist.

DARE TO ASK: CAN YOU BE GAY AND CHRISTIAN AS WELL?

Homosexualy is not the unfivable s and n be repented for and turned away om, but realize that God nsirs to be an abomatn worthy of ath and a perversn of that which is natural.

Osr-wng actor Kev Spacey has said he is attracted to mascule men but is not able to tell whether someone is gay jt by lookg at cross-examatn durg his trial on sex abe charg, the Hollywood star nied he was a “sexual bully” and told the jury he did not have a “power wand” to make people want to sleep wh about his sexual preferenc, Mr Spacey said he had prevly had romantic enunters wh men who would not scribe themselv as homosexual.

HOW TO KNOW IF YOU ARE GAY

In other words, where Bud Light has buckled unr prsure as bigotry grows agast the LGBTQ+ muny, Gay Water’s creator Spencer Hodson wants his new boozy brand to be the anthis of that.

“The key issue that Bud Light tapped to was the fact that they didn’t unrstand their re dience and know enough about them,” Hodson, a gay man, told CNN about the ntroversy that began when the Anhser-Bch beer brand sent fluencer Dylan Mulvaney a n of beer. Hodson built up a strong social media followg on TikTok and Instagram durg Covid-19 and is g some of the money om that (as well as om iends and fay) to help fund Gay Water.

“Gay is an umbrella term and the ia behd the brand is to be as clive as possible, which means we want alli, we want straight people to be part of this muny we’re buildg.”.

HOW TO COME OUT TO STRICT RELIG PARENTS WHEN YOU'RE GAY

Gay Water might not have the ep pockets pared to s petors, like Whe Claw, but “even at small sle, pani of many siz are havg succs makg spir-based seltzers and premixed cktails,” Bryan Roth, an analyst for Feel Goods Company and edor of the alhol beverage newsletter, Sightl+, told CNN. “There’s lots of space the spir-based seltzer tegory which Gay Water n play, pecially if the brand n offer a cultural or emotnal nnectn that will feel more excg than the prospect of another peapple-flavored vodka seltzer om natnal or ternatnal rporatns,” Roth said. Of urse, other drks e the word “gay,” too, cludg Gay Beer and So Gay Rosé, Hodson noted, which are also tryg to reach the queer muny and offer them an alternative the straight-domated space.

Overall, there are a lot of big nam wrapped up the speculatn around Olivia Rodrigo’s mic, and while that mt be hard to take, ’s nice to see she has an optimistic and unrstandg “Vampire” is currently killg , the rt of Rodrigo’s sophomore album, GUTS, will be available to stream on September 8. It wasn’t until I was readg somewhere on the ter about the percentage of gay people who m suici each year, that I really got a glimpse at how hurt and ashamed some of them are, and let me tell you, if anyone actually looks at the numbers, will be a huge shock! There’s more data out there, lots of , but somewhere between l like 58% of gay homels youth sexually victimized and 44% of them beg approached to engage sex to meet basic needs [5], I h my lim for lookg at leav wh the overridg qutn: Why?

HOW SHOULD CHRISTIANS RPOND TO GAY FRIENDS OR FAY MEMBERS?

BEG A GAY CHRISTIAN N BE HURTFUL AND GELLG. BUT I REFE TO LOSE FAH

WHAT DO THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT BEG BORN GAY?

GAY CHRISTIAN?

KEV SPACEY: I N’T TELL WHETHER MEN ARE GAY JT BY LOOKG AT THEM