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The article by Michael Nava and Robert Dawidoff begs by providg background rmatn to the help rears unrstand the issue of gay marriag.

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CLDE GAY TO BE HARVARD’S 1ST BLACK PRINT, 2ND WOMAN

Harvard Universy has named Clde Gay as s next print, makg her the first Black person and the send woman to lead the Ivy League school. * the gay ivy *

About 38% of stunts at the Ivy League school intified as eher homosexual, bisexual, queer, asexual, pansexual, qutng, or other — more than five tim the natnal rate for adults not intifyg as straight. Sce the Herald first nducted a survey of sexual orientatn on mp 2010, Brown stunts intifyg as lbian and gay dropped by more than half om 46 to 22%.

WHAT REARS SAID ABOUT THE “GAY IVY”

The vote is still out on whether Yale’s gay-iendly reputatn tly match mp realy. Dpe Yale’s reputatn as the “gay Ivy,” stunts have long plaed […] * the gay ivy *

But I don't have 's hilar that now the gays and lbians (at least a few here on DL) nnot fathom that people want to live the way they want. It is not that 7% of Amerins are gay, is that 7% of Amerins have realized they were gay, have e to terms wh , and will adm .

As someone who was born gay and had absolutely no choice the matter, I don't have much patience wh the "fashnably queer" "gay for a day" typ and they're the on who make up the parable mory is the number of people who are left-hand (which is about 10%).

IS POISON IVY GAY?

Actually surveys where extra re was taken to protect nfintialy found 20% wh same sex attractn 1991, R17, at the height of the "all the gays are gog to die" era. Not at all unmon among women to be lbian while an unrgraduate, then marry a man and have kids after knew a few GUGs llege -- Gay Until Graduatn. It's much more mon for men to jt say they are bisexual, but i knew a handful of guys who were proudly gay on mp, but married women once they got to the real Anonymoreply 23July 21, 2023 9:54 PM.

[quote] Harvard has never had an affirmative actn program for homosGee, no sh?, R30by Anonymoreply 35July 22, 2023 11:40 PM. BOSTON (AP) — Harvard Universy announced Thursday that Clde Gay will bee s 30th print, makg her the first Black person and the send woman to lead the Ivy League school. “Clde is a remarkable lear who is profoundly voted to stag and enhancg Harvard’s amic excellence, to champng both the value and the valu of higher tn and rearch, to expandg opportuny, and to strengtheng Harvard as a fount of ias and a force for good the world, ” Penny Przker, senr fellow of the Harvard Corporatn and chair of Harvard’s printial search mtee, said a her speech, Gay lled for greater llaboratn among schools at Harvard and said there was an urgency for the universy be more engaged wh the world and to “brg bold, brave and pneerg thkg to our greatt challeng.

“At a time when everyone ntu to look at Harvard, this printial hire will arguably be one of the most signifint Amerin higher tn for years to e, ” Cole print of Harvard, Gay will shape cisns that n have impact at the lol, state and feral level, Cole said. � The Yale Alumni Magaz recent ver story Why They Call Yale The Gay Ivy sparked a furor among s rears, igng a larger ntroversy about homophobia, tradn and the generatnal divi our untry today.

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OBVLY, THEN, HE'S GOG TO BE THE BT LTLE HBAND AND FATHER WHEN HE GROWS UP, RIGHT? BUT JOHN REID KNEW DIFFERENTLY, EVER SCE THE AGE OF ELEVEN WHEN HE FIRST WONRED WHY HE LIKED LOOKG AT THOSE BOXERS SPORTS ILLTRATED. HE KNEW, BUT HE WOULD MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE EVER DID:"I WOULD SOMEHOW PE. I WOULD SOMEHOW ENJOY HOUR AFTER HOUR OF SMIC PRSN, DAY AFTER DAY, YEAR AFTER YEAR... YOU WOULD NEVER TCH ME ELECTG ART STEAD OF SCIENCE, PLAYG HAMLET STEAD OF PLAYG TENNIS... [OR LOOKG] AT THE 'HO', DRAWER OF THE NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY RD TALOG... DO YOU UNRSTAND? I WASN'T HOMOSEXUAL; I JT SPERATELY WANTED TO BE WBOYS WH CHIP OR WH TOMMY." THE BT LTLE BOY THE WORLDJOHN REID IS, Y, A HEALTHY HOMOSEXUAL. HIS TOBGRAPHY IS THE ONLY "SE HISTORY" I HAVE EVER READ THAT HAS REAL SIARI WH MY OWN EXPERIENCE; FACT, SEVERAL OF THE CINTS HE SCRIBED ALMOST KNOCKED ME OFF MY CHAIR.THE OVERALL TAILS ARE QUE SIAR AND UNEXCG. WE BOTH GREW UP CLOSE, LOVG FAI WH SIBLGS WHO TURNED OUT STRAIGHT. WE BOTH DID WELL SCHOOL AND END UP THE IVY LEAGUE: HE AT YALE, I AT PRCETON. WE BOTH PRETEND TO BE STRAIGHT AS UNRGRADUAT, AND WE BOTH "ME OUT" SOON AFTER GRADUATN.AND WE BOTH RRIED OUT THE CEPTN VERY WELL. REID DID BETTER, BEE HE WAS VERG UP THE FACT THAT HE KNEW HE LIKED MEN; I WAS VERG UP THE FACT THAT I DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE SEXUAL FEELGS RELATN TO PEOPLE AT ALL. TH, I ALMOST NEVER DATED; I PRETEND TO BE TOO BY. REID DATED EXTENSIVELY, AND EVEN STAYED OVERNIGHT ONCE ( A HOTEL) SO HE ULD WALK THE NEXT MORNG AND HAVE HIS ROOMMAT SEE HIM NONCHALANTLY UNSHAVEN, WEARG THE SAME CLOTH HE MA SURE HE WAS SEEN THE NIGHT BEFORE WH HILDA. HILDA HERSELF HAD BEEN REFULLY SELECTED; SHE WOULD LET HIM PUT HIS HAND ON HER SHOULR, BUT WOULD RIST EVERY TIME HE TRIED TO MOVE DOWN TO HER BREAST. SHE WAS JT ENOUGH OF A P TO LET REID SHOW EVERYONE ELSE WHAT A MOVER HE WAS WHOUT EVER HAVG TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHG TO (WH?) HER. LATER, HILDA TOLD REID THAT SHE ULDN'T LET HIM GO VERY FAR BEE HE SEEMED TO BE TERTED ONLY HER BODY. OF URSE, NOTHG ULD HAVE BORED REID MORE. BUT A SENSE, SHE WAS RIGHT--REID WAS TERTED HER AS A THG, TO SHOW OFF TO THE OTHER GUYS.LATER, BOTH OF WENT THROUGH THE EVABLE HOW-DO-I-FD-OUT-WHO'S-GAY-WHOUT-RISKG-BEG-FOUND-OUT CRISIS. REID'S SOLUTN STCK HOME WH IGHTENG PRECISN. HE PLANNED TO DRAW UP A "SEXUAL PREFERENCE QUTNNAIRE," PLETELY ANONYMO, AND SEND AROUND TO ALL HIS IENDS, WHO WOULD THK WAS FOR SOME SOCLOGY THIS, FILL OUT, AND RETURN TO A POST OFFICE BOX. REID WOULD LLECT THE REPLI AND THEN INTIFY WHICH IEND FILLED OUT WHICH QUTNNAIRE BY THE ULTRAVLET K HE HAD PREVLY D THEM WH. HE NEVER ACTUALLY DID THIS, OF URSE, BUT THEN AGA NEHER DID I; I HAD PLANNED TO INTIFY THE RETURNED QUTNNARI WH NSPICUO PENCIL DOTS. I RECENTLY TALKED TO A GRADUATE OF LOWELL HOE WHO SAID THAT HE PLANNED TO E SLIGHTLY TORN OR DOG-EARED RNERS. IF YOU'RE READG THIS WH YOUR HEART SKG DOWN TO YOUR TT, JT REMEMBER THAT YOU WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE DONE EHER; THERE ARE VERY FEW NEW IAS THIS WORLD.THE NEXT STAGE IS THE GOD-DO-I-WANT-TO-MEET-THAT-GUY-BUT-IF-I-DID-THEN-I'LL-KNOW-I'M-REALLY-GAY CRISIS. FOR REID, HAPPENED NEW YORK CY. HE WAS WALKG HOME OM WORK, AND SAW ONE OF THOSE UNBELIEVABLE RAVG FAGS: PURSE, APPROXIMATELY PK HAIR, BOOTS UP OVER THE KNE, POODLE, AND SO ON. HIS REACTN WAS DISGT. BUT THEN HE NOTICED THE GUY HE WAS TALKG TO: DARK HAIR, BLUE EY, SIBURNS, BLUE JEANS, FLANNEL SHIRT--UNBELIEVABLY HUNKY. WELL, CLEARLY, THE POODLE GUY WAS... BUT IF HE WAS TALKG TO HIM, THEN HE MT BE, TOO, BUT... GOD, IS THAT GUY HANDSOME!... SHOULD HE GO OVER AND TRODUCE HIMSELF?... BUT THEN EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD... AND OF URSE REID FALLY WALKS RIGHT BY, AND HAS ALWAYS REGRETTED DOG SO.WH ME, HAPPENED SOPHOMORE YEAR. ONE OF MY ROOMMAT AND I LIKED SLEEPG NU, AND ONE NIGHT I ULDN'T SLEEP AND WENT TO THE LIVG ROOM TO READ. TWENTY MUT LATER, MY ROOMMATE FOLLOWED, STILL NU. NOW KEEP MD THE FACT THAT THIS GUY ED TO BE A WRTLER AND WAS BUILT LIKE A DYNAMO; HE WAS STANDG JT ACROSS THE ROOM, READG A MAGAZE ON THE BAR, PLETELY STARKERS, AND PROFILE VIEW. I QUICKLY SHIFTED MY POSN TO SHIELD MY CROTCH OM ANY STRAY GLANC, AND I STARTED GOG BANANAS. I BEGAN TO SHAKE UNNTROLLABLY--ARMS, LEGS, STOMACH--BEE I WAS THE GRIP OF TWO NTROLLABLE FORC. ONE: DON'T GIVE YOURSELF AWAY. TWO: ATTACK HIM. IF WERE POSSIBLE TO GET A HERNIA WHILE STG DOWN, I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ONE. AFTER ABOUT FIVE MUT OF THIS, I GOT UP, TOOK A LD SHOWER, AND WENT BACK TO BED WH PAJAMAS. I MIGHT AS WELL SAVE YOU THE TROUBLE: DIDN'T HELP.REID PRENTS HIMSELF WH REMARKABLE HONTY, WARTS AND ALL; THE ADULT REID IS NO DOUBT AWARE OF THIS OR THAT IMMATURY, THIS OR THAT BLDNS. SOME WILL POUNCE ON THE FACT THAT "JOHN REID" IS A PSDONYM; YOU MAY AS WELL KNOW THAT "CHARL BONNELL" IS, TOO. REID DO TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD NTACT WH HIM; I E MY REAL NAME AT MEETGS LIKE THOSE OF THE HARVARD-RADCLIFFE GAY STUNTS ASSOCIATN. IN NTRAST, SOME OF ALLEN GSBERG'S PARTNERS HAVE LATER FOUND THE PAG OF PLAYBOY ALL THE TAILS OF WHO DID WHAT WH WHOM WHEN; THAT'S A RULT OF TTH.REID'S STORY ANSWERS A LOT OF QUTNS, AND STROYS A FEW MYTHS HELD BY MANY (GAY MEN CLUD). HE HAS NEVER HAD ANAL TERURSE, HE PREFERS NOT TO HAVE ORAL TERURSE, AND HE DLY DISLIK KISSG. WHAT'S LEFT? THE QUTN BETRAYS A MECHANIL OUTLOOK TOWARDS LOVEMAKG. REID'S FIRST EXPERIENCE DIDN'T EVEN VOLVE ASM, BEE HE WAS HAVG SO MUCH FUN HE DIDN'T NOTICE OR RE ABOUT NOT HAVG ONE. THIS IS AN ATTU MORE PEOPLE (GAY MEN CLUD) SHOULD BE AWARE {DISPLAY:BLOCK;MARG:0PX TO;WIDTH:100%;MAX-WIDTH:100%;BACKGROUND:TRANSPARENT;PADDG:10PX 0PX;} {FONT-FAY:'COLABORATE LIGHT','LUCIDA SANS UNI',SANS-SERIF;LOR:#333333;TEXT-ALIGN:CENTER;FONT-SIZE:0.7EM;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;DISPLAY:BLOCK;} {WIDTH:-WEBK-F-NTENT;WIDTH:-MOZ-F-NTENT;WIDTH:F-NTENT;MARG:0PX TO;TEXT-ALIGN:CENTER;}ADVERTISEMENTIN SHORT, REID'S BOOK IS GOOD NOSTALGIA FOR THOSE OUT OF THEIR CLOSETS, A GOOD TN FOR THOSE WHOUT CLOSETS, AND HOPEFULLY A GREAT RELIEF TO THOSE OF YOU STILL YOUR CLOSETS. IN THIS LAST SE, THE BT LTLE BOY THE WORLD N HELP BRG FAST FAST FAST RELIEF.CHARL BONNELL IS A STUNT AT THE HARVARD LAW {FONT-SIZE:16.5PX;LE-HEIGHT:26PX;BOX-SIZG:NTENT-BOX;MAX-WIDTH:600PX;PADDG:0PX 20PX;MARG:0PX TO;MARG:1EM TO;} A{LOR:#7B1B18;}WANT TO KEEP UP WH BREAKG NEWS? 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� Out of this vehement and diverse alumni rponse was born The Gay Ivy, a mil theater llage featurg work by more than a dozen wrers and posers: roommat remisce about their parallel yet isolated liv fifty years ago; two women wake up each others arms; one of the first Ai-Amerin alumnae nfs her own stggle to embrace her sons liftyle; a legacy-stunt nonts his grandfathers hatred and his own nflicted sexual inty. � As gayns, gay characters and gay celebri have bee more accepted and even celebrated, sual homophobia still pervas our society.

� While the fight for marriage equaly is gag ground and Print Obama has fally acted to repeal Dont Ask Dont Tell, lns of Amerins still believe that homosexualy is wrong and shameful. self-acceptg gay stunts and faculty at Yale, men who, as Fry wrote 1945, “work through quickly to an acceptance of their homosexualy and of sexual.

“””GAY MARRIAG”” BY MICHAEL NAVA AND ROBERT DAWIDOFF” ESSAY (CRIL WRG)

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