How ‘Game of Thron’ Brought the Frighteng Realy of the Gay Rights Fight to Wteros – IndieWire

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• HOW "GAME OF THRON" ED LORAS TYRELL: HBO'S “GAY RTOON” IS SO MUCH MORE THE BOOKS
• HERE’S WHY THERE’S NO GAY SEX IN THE 'GAME OF THRON' BOOKS'I'VE HAD LETTERS OM FANS WHO WANT ME TO PRENT AN EXPLIC MALE SEX SCENE.'{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.25 "GRAVY",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NONE;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#FFFFFF;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.25 "GRAVY",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NONE;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#FFFFFF;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}TVBY ALICIA LUTAUGT 12, 2014/2:22 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:574PX;WIDTH:1020PX;}BY ALICIA LUTAUGT 12, 2014 / 2:22 PM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"HERE’S WHY THERE’S NO GAY SEX IN THE 'GAME OF THRON' BOOKS","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2014-08-12T18:22:49.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2014-08-12T18:22:49.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"MTV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"MTV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1280,"HEIGHT":720}},"CREATOR":"ALICIA LUT","ARTICLESECTN":"TV"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY, GEE R.R. MART TOOK THE STAGE AT THE EDBURGH INTERNATNAL BOOK FTIVAL AND DROPPED SOME SPOILER-FILLED KNOWLEDGE AND SIGHT ON THE DIENCE OM HIS UPG BOOKS, "THE WDS OF WTER" AND "A DREAM OF SPRG" OM THE NOVEL SERI THAT SPIRED HBO'S "GAME OF THRON." NATURALLY, THERE WERE A FEW THGS THAT MER DISCSN. SO WE'VE PILED THEM ALL BELOW TO OBSS OVER — BEE ISN'T THAT WHAT THE INTER'S FOR?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHILE 'S NO SECRET THAT THE HBO TV SERI AND MART'S "A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE" SERI HAVE VIATED OM ONE ANOTHER WAYS THAT HAVE PREVLY UPSET FANS, OTHER ASPECTS HAVE BROUGHT A B MORE EQUALY TO THE MIX. LIKE THE PICTN OF RENLY BARATHEON AND LORAS TYRELL'S LOVE AFFAIR SEASON TWO. WHEN ASKED WHY SUCH A THG WAS NOT MA AS VISUALLY EXPLIC THE NOVELS, MART EXPLAED THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY MORE LIMED HIS ABILY TO TELL THE MYRIAD STORI THAN THE TV SHOWS BEE OF HIS VIEWPOT-STYLED {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}GIVEN THAT NONE OF THE VIEWPOT CHARACTERS (TH FAR) ARE GAY, LEFT LTLE ROOM FOR EXPLIC GAY SEX THE BOOKS. "A TELEVISN SHOW DON'T HAVE THOSE LIMATNS," MART SAID. "WILL THAT CHANGE? IT MIGHT. I'VE HAD LETTERS OM FANS WHO WANT ME TO PRENT AN EXPLIC MALE SEX SCENE – MOST OF THE LETTERS E OM WOMEN."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER FAN THOUGHTS? LIKE, SAY, THAT SUPER-MEGA POTENTIAL THEORY SPOILER? WELL AS FAR AS OUR READ ON THE SUATN, HE ALL BUT NFIRMED . STILL, GIVEN THAT IS A STILL-UNNFIRMED HYPOTHETIL THE BOOKS, IF THE FANS ARE RRECT ABOUT THAT BOMBSHELL, WILL HE CHANGE ORR TO KEEP THE MYSTERY ALIVE? NO, APPARENTLY NOT! "I'VE BEEN PLANTG ALL THE CLU THAT THE BUTLER DID , THEN YOU'RE HALFWAY THROUGH A SERI AND SUDNLY THOANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT THE BUTLER DID , AND THEN YOU SAY THE CHAMBERMAID DID ? NO, YOU N'T DO THAT."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT PERHAPS THE MOST TERTG TEASE OF ALL? THERE'S A NEW, MAJOR CHARACTER G ONTO THE SCENE: WILLAS TYRELL, THE CRIPPLED BUT BRILLIANT ELST SON OF LORD MACE TYRELL. MART DID NOT THAT THOUGH HIS PART IS IMPORTANT, HE WILL NOT BE A VIEWPOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THIS IS GRRM WE'RE TALKG ABOUT, AND HE'S ONE WORDY MFER, SO WHO KNOWS: MAYBE THAT'LL CHANGE, OR HE'LL KILL SOMEONE OFF. WHO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
• BOOK BUZZ: GEE R.R. MART ON GAY CHARACTERS, SCI-FI
• GAME OF THRON THOR: I WON’T CLU GAY CHARACTERS NOVELS ‘FOR THE SAKE OF ’
• OP-ED: THE GAYS OF THRON
• HOW ‘GAME OF THRON’ BROUGHT THE FRIGHTENG REALY OF THE GAY RIGHTS FIGHT TO WTEROS

HOW "GAME OF THRON" ED LORAS TYRELL: HBO'S “GAY RTOON” IS SO MUCH MORE THE BOOKS

In the mystil land of Wteros, they’ve got everythg — dragons, Whe Walkers, and a whole lot of gays. Inty: GayLikelihood of Stg on the Iron Throne: Not happeng, ever sce a hly born shadow monster took his life and claim to the throne. By the way, Kristian Nairn, who played the beloved protector, is gay.

Inty: GayLikelihood of Stg on the Iron Throne: As he was mutilated and blown to piec Kg's Landg, the most persecuted character’s only chance of makg back to the Iron Throne is as a ghost. Sexualy: GayLikelihood of Stg on the Iron Throne: While Ltlefger’s sex worker and spy might have had some noteworthy nnectns to Loras Tyrell and the Martells, ’s unclear if Oliver is ad, alive, or somethg between.

Of urse, one thg to keep md is that our morn lexin of sexualy wouldn't have been translated to the world of Game of Thron, so intifitn via labels like "gay" and "lbian" wasn't available to the characters.

HERE’S WHY THERE’S NO GAY SEX IN THE 'GAME OF THRON' BOOKS'I'VE HAD LETTERS OM FANS WHO WANT ME TO PRENT AN EXPLIC MALE SEX SCENE.'{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.25 "GRAVY",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NONE;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#FFFFFF;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.25 "GRAVY",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NONE;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#FFFFFF;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}TVBY ALICIA LUTAUGT 12, 2014/2:22 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:574PX;WIDTH:1020PX;}BY ALICIA LUTAUGT 12, 2014 / 2:22 PM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"HERE’S WHY THERE’S NO GAY SEX IN THE 'GAME OF THRON' BOOKS","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2014-08-12T18:22:49.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2014-08-12T18:22:49.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"MTV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"MTV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1280,"HEIGHT":720}},"CREATOR":"ALICIA LUT","ARTICLESECTN":"TV"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY, GEE R.R. MART TOOK THE STAGE AT THE EDBURGH INTERNATNAL BOOK FTIVAL AND DROPPED SOME SPOILER-FILLED KNOWLEDGE AND SIGHT ON THE DIENCE OM HIS UPG BOOKS, "THE WDS OF WTER" AND "A DREAM OF SPRG" OM THE NOVEL SERI THAT SPIRED HBO'S "GAME OF THRON." NATURALLY, THERE WERE A FEW THGS THAT MER DISCSN. SO WE'VE PILED THEM ALL BELOW TO OBSS OVER — BEE ISN'T THAT WHAT THE INTER'S FOR?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHILE 'S NO SECRET THAT THE HBO TV SERI AND MART'S "A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE" SERI HAVE VIATED OM ONE ANOTHER WAYS THAT HAVE PREVLY UPSET FANS, OTHER ASPECTS HAVE BROUGHT A B MORE EQUALY TO THE MIX. LIKE THE PICTN OF RENLY BARATHEON AND LORAS TYRELL'S LOVE AFFAIR SEASON TWO. WHEN ASKED WHY SUCH A THG WAS NOT MA AS VISUALLY EXPLIC THE NOVELS, MART EXPLAED THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY MORE LIMED HIS ABILY TO TELL THE MYRIAD STORI THAN THE TV SHOWS BEE OF HIS VIEWPOT-STYLED {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}GIVEN THAT NONE OF THE VIEWPOT CHARACTERS (TH FAR) ARE GAY, LEFT LTLE ROOM FOR EXPLIC GAY SEX THE BOOKS. "A TELEVISN SHOW DON'T HAVE THOSE LIMATNS," MART SAID. "WILL THAT CHANGE? IT MIGHT. I'VE HAD LETTERS OM FANS WHO WANT ME TO PRENT AN EXPLIC MALE SEX SCENE – MOST OF THE LETTERS E OM WOMEN."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER FAN THOUGHTS? LIKE, SAY, THAT SUPER-MEGA POTENTIAL THEORY SPOILER? WELL AS FAR AS OUR READ ON THE SUATN, HE ALL BUT NFIRMED . STILL, GIVEN THAT IS A STILL-UNNFIRMED HYPOTHETIL THE BOOKS, IF THE FANS ARE RRECT ABOUT THAT BOMBSHELL, WILL HE CHANGE ORR TO KEEP THE MYSTERY ALIVE? NO, APPARENTLY NOT! "I'VE BEEN PLANTG ALL THE CLU THAT THE BUTLER DID , THEN YOU'RE HALFWAY THROUGH A SERI AND SUDNLY THOANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT THE BUTLER DID , AND THEN YOU SAY THE CHAMBERMAID DID ? NO, YOU N'T DO THAT."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT PERHAPS THE MOST TERTG TEASE OF ALL? THERE'S A NEW, MAJOR CHARACTER G ONTO THE SCENE: WILLAS TYRELL, THE CRIPPLED BUT BRILLIANT ELST SON OF LORD MACE TYRELL. MART DID NOT THAT THOUGH HIS PART IS IMPORTANT, HE WILL NOT BE A VIEWPOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#F3F3F3;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THIS IS GRRM WE'RE TALKG ABOUT, AND HE'S ONE WORDY MFER, SO WHO KNOWS: MAYBE THAT'LL CHANGE, OR HE'LL KILL SOMEONE OFF. WHO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

What plac Loras at the bottom of the list is the fact that his whole character is fed by harmful gay stereotyp, pecially nsirg he (and Renly) were the first LGBTQ+ characters Game of Thron we were troduced to. As a stark ntrast of gay reprentatn to Loras, Renly serv to portray a very different LGBTQ+ experience for the viewers to potentially relate to on Game on Thron.

BOOK BUZZ: GEE R.R. MART ON GAY CHARACTERS, SCI-FI

This show will be screened untri where homosexualy is illegal, where women’s sexual choic are ntrolled and where trans inti are vlently subjugated. If ed those men were gay had a signifint effect upon history and has a somewhat signifint effect on the events my book … I wanted to clu the full range of humany, cludg the full range of sexual preferenc and sex is an important part of the books. The first big gay relatnship is between Renly Baratheon and Loras Tyrell.

Perhaps “gay for pay” exists Wteros too?

And the are homophobic tim.

GAME OF THRON THOR: I WON’T CLU GAY CHARACTERS NOVELS ‘FOR THE SAKE OF ’

Vto Rso, the gay film cric, noted a trend some film reprentatn where the gay man is prented only to meet an unhappy, punishg and often fatal endg.

OP-ED: THE GAYS OF THRON

But world where Bnei has jt joed the list of pariah natns that have the ath penalty for male homosexualy, a queer character’s murr might reasonably be argued to rry more ntemporary weight and ronance. And the list of gay men that the show has killed weighs heavy. Perhaps bee the language to scribe and fe multiple sexual orientatns don’t exist Wteros, his fay speaks only phemism, but Laenor is gay and his lover is Jofey Lonmouth (Solly McLeod).

And while n be argued that most characters the seri experience some form of horrific vlence, queer characters’ aths are often also marked by homophobic subtext that n’t be ignored. He is arrted by a relig sect for the crime of beg gay and havg been timate wh other men. And for those who will try to pat the homophobia as some sort of “historil accuracy, ” “Hoe of the Dragon” is a fictnal show set a world wh dragons and ice queer women of “Game of Thron” fared slightly better.

HOW ‘GAME OF THRON’ BROUGHT THE FRIGHTENG REALY OF THE GAY RIGHTS FIGHT TO WTEROS

)For those who hoped that Laenor’s troductn might signal that “Hoe of the Dragon” had learned the same lsons about LGBTQ reprentatn as has Daenerys’ arc, Lonmouth’s ath is particularly troublg bee of the way evok the homophobic “panic” that has long been ed to try to fend vlence agast queer people. But the sequence still amounts to a man, after beg approached by a gay man who knows his secret, beatg the gay man to the first episo, the prequel seri has been clear that the misogyny of the Realm is a mark agast . It’s past time the anchise do the same wh homophobia.

A gay ladr. The show's first gay moment is.

homosexual, and his sister too for knowg about .