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At that pot, “gay” was still <a href=">ed extensively as a slur</a> (before <a href=">Hilary Duff told not to</a>), as were “lbian” and “queer.” Yet spe the sual homophobia of the era, you uld also turn on the rad and hear the Rsian pop duo t.A.T.u. sg accented English to “her” stead of “him,” or flip on MTV and watch them clg to each other the ra, draw each other closer, and kiss. </p><p>For many, the group’s h sgle was the sole piece of media they’d enuntered that prented same-sex attractn not as a problem, but as an achgly yearng love story. “All the Thgs She Said” was everywhere a way that seemed <em>normal</em>, which implicly meant that the queer sexualy exprsed wh the song was as well, spe our culture’s sistence that such sire was appropriate, even immoral. Or that was one reactn, at least; some crics at the time viewed t.A.T.u.’s sudn ubiquy wh more scty. As one wrer <a href=">asked</a> at the time, “What are they really sellg?”</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>After releasg their first rerd, <em>200 Po Vstrechnoy</em>, Rsia 2001, t.A.T.u. h the English speakg world wh <em>200 km/h the Wrong Lane</em> December of 2002. A few months before, the band had dropped “All The Thgs She Said,” alongsi s <a href=">stantly ntroversial</a> vio. Crics were spl on the group’s techno and trance-heavy sound — <a href="><em>The Guardian</em></a> gave <em>200 km/h</em> four out of five stars, <a href="><em>Rollg Stone</em></a> only two — but the real buzz around t.A.T.u. centered on their “star-crossed lbian lovers” image. </p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>Though wasn’t unheard of to see girls kiss girls mastream Amerin culture (see the famo 2003 MTV Vio Mic Awards <a href=">kiss</a> between Brney Spears, Madonna, and Christa Aguilera), actual gay people, not to mentn trans or other non-cisgenr inti, were largely viewed as an aberratn. The U.S. was years away om a printial electn  which same-sex marriage <a href=">likely helped keep</a> Gee W. Bh office agast John Kerry. So to many listeners, t.A.T.u. wasn’t jt about seeg girls kiss; they were protectg and cherishg their love agast an tensely disapprovg world. And they would go on to do so on stag all over the world, cludg the <a href=">2003 Eurovisn Song Contt</a>, where they reprented Rsia. </p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="12ublt"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="u98q"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><figure data-ttid="IameEmbed" class="IameEmbedWrapper-sc-dRedg hZiq iame-embed"><div data-ttid="IameEmbedContaer" class="IameEmbedContaer-hptgUZ gwYBCr"><div class="IameEmbedAspectRatWrapper-hFVJps kaOLzO"><iame class="IameEmbedContent-cMdiev csnuAY IameEmbedContent lazyload" height="300px" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-popups allow-same-orig" tle="Embedd Frame" data-src=" allow="toplay *; encrypted-media *; clipboard-wre; toplay; fullscreen; picture--picture"></iame></div></div></figure><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="9oaagm"></div></div><p>“All The Thgs She Said” eventually h  #1 on the Billboard chart the U.K. and #20 on the Hot 100 chart the U.S. Yet behd the band’s succs was a much ls romantic backstory: In 1999, Rsian producer Ivan Shapovalov and his then-bs partner put out a ll for female volists. Out of hundreds who dned, they st Lena Kata and Julia Volkova, both 14 at the time and prevly part of the children’s sgg group Neposedy. The band’s name and “image” — cludg that the duo were gay — were created by Shapovalov; t.A.T.u. is short for the Rsian phrase “<em>ta lyub tu,</em>” meang “this [girl] lov that [girl].” Kata and Volkova lerally embodied their artist moniker, portrayg femme4femme timacy  <a href=">performanc</a>, mic vios, and <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">terviews</a> alike. </p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>But was all an act. From the start, Shapovalov <a href=">lled the group</a> an “unrage sex project” that he put together bee he “found funny,” unrlg that t.A.T.u. was signed to panr to the male gaze. In classic 2000s fashn, the more sister (and potentially abive) aspects of the dynamic between the four was glossed over by the media at the time. 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body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Yet thgs got even more plited when me to the duo's views on queerns. In the 2003 documentary <em>Anatomy of t.A.T.u.</em>, which aired on Rsian televisn, was nfirmed that neher intified as lbian at the time they ma the song, and Kata even admted to attemptg to pray away her “sful” public behavr. Volkova later me out as bi, but a <a href=" target="_blank">2014 terview</a> for Rsian TV, said that gay men are “unmanly,” and rebed the ia of havg a gay son. Kata rpond wh her own <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">pro-LGBTQ+ ments</a>, and Volkova later <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">quasi-apologized</a>.</p><p>As for “All the Thgs She Said,” s origs are a far cry om s star-crossed lovers prentatn. Shapovalov’s <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">wrg partner</a> (and eventual ex-wife) Elena Kiper <a href=">reportedly</a> woke up om ntal surgery reuntg a dream which she kissed a woman, yellg <em>“Ya soshla s uma!”</em> This beme the song’s Rsian tle, which means, “I’ve lost my md.”</p><p>Once their novelty took a back seat to their sndals, t.A.T.u. was effectively kaput, releasg four more rerds before breakg up 2011. Kata and Volkova pursued solo reers, but neher uld pe t.A.T.u.’s famy. They’ve rned for performanc several tim, cludg for the <a href=">2014 Sochi Wter Olympics</a> and as recently as <a href=">this September</a> for an “MMA fightg/mic event” Belas that even dited t.A.T.u. fans were <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">lewarm</a> <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">about.</a></p><p>But two s out, and spe s misleadg and upsettg origs, the group remas a sgular pop culture phenomenon. Olivia Rodrigo <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">vered “All The Thgs She Said”</a> earlier this year, jog the lik of experimental artist <a href=">Poppy</a> and the League of Legends character-turned-virtual mician <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Seraphe</a>. Early 2022, Halsey revealed that their 2019 sgle “Nightmare” <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">was spired by the song</a> and at one pot sampled , then teased a (still unreleased) t.A.T.u. ver. 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On one hand, t.A.T.u. took the stereotype that women will pretend to be “gay for attentn” to a disturbg and disenchantg extreme. Kata and Volkova’s performance remas one of the most high-profile s of actual queerbag pop culture history, one that many people are unrstandably eager to distance themselv om. Several out women micians cled to ment for this piece, wh their management and publicists passg or failg to rpond. (One sent back a sharp note: “Have you looked to the band and who they actually are as people?”) </p><p>But on the other hand, Kata and Volkova sang about and kissed each other for an dience of lns, and dog so challenged the ep homophobia of the time. (Eurovisn <a href=">reportedly</a> censored their performanc and allegedly fixed votg so they wouldn’t w.) By mtg to the act, t.A.T.u. advertently rved out a space for queer people to image themselv lovg and livg eely. In an <a href=">terview</a> om last year, Kata rells, “You nnot image how many msag we received om different people, who told , ‘You saved our life. Thank you.'” A sexualy revelatn om a problematic and dated work is still a revelatn. </p><p>That there was a moment time when Rsia celebrated an LGBTQ+ act — even though was ultimately jt that, an act —  means t.A.T.u. exists historil limbo as an unreplible cultural artifact. Kata and Volkova aren’t pneerg hero, but for a brief moment time they reprented public queerns a untry that now <a href=">no longer allows </a>. And their legacy some ways remas tact bee of how ltle certa thgs have changed over the past two s. </p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Yet spe the return of Y2K athetics and nservatism, we aren’t actually livg a retread of 2002. And though t.A.T.u. helped expand the horizons of our imagatns, we no longer have to live the realm of imagatn. In realy, out artists of all kds of inti, natnali, and practic are creatg a new and genuely queer cultural non. When I revis <em>200 km/h</em>, s songs no longer seem like fiant anthems, bee actualy, they never were. 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THREAD: GREG KOVACS TALKS ABOUT GAY4PAY

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For stance, when gay-for-pay porn star Chris Tyler was asked by the Village Voice what the harst part of his job was, he answered:"Takg a 10-ch-pl dick. I never was attracted to a girl, ” Kata told The Daily Beast  was all the work of two (male) producers who nvced the teenage duo om the children’s ensemble Neposeda (Fidget) to pose as an “unnventnal” uple bee they saw huge potential explog the theme of homosexualy. Cast & crew201111m'Gay for Pay' explor how LGBT reprentatns by celebri and non-celebri alike are ed for media spectacle, reer advancement, and fancial ga.

GAY-FOR-PAY: STRAIGHT MEN AND THE MAKG OF GAY PORNOGRAPHY

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Through reflectn, I arrive at the ncln that the time was right for an agg twk performer to be hened-up by a transn to bareback; siar transns of which have bee wispread across the gay porn landspe the years that have ticked over sce the 2015 Johnny Rapid Go Bareback event and our prent day (see Brennan, 2020a)—due to the wispread mastreamg of bareback mercial gay porn, which has been buoyed no small part by advancements HIV preventn technologi. Johnny Rapid’s bareback but served as the lnch event for Bromo; a se that shared a parent pany (MdGeek) wh Sean Cody and Men, the latter two s that 2018 held the distctn of beg the first and send most equented sourc of gay porn on the web, rpectively (Brennan, 2018). I observe that while Rapid’s first-time bareback performance is marketed as a up for viewers, the general nsens among Str8UpGayPorn’s rearship is more my readg of the disurse will show, the largt proportn of those mentg on the mpaign exprsed a cidly negative viewpot.

Footnote 11 In fact, by Lus’ acunt, Sire’s reportg style led to his removalFootnote 12 om another popular gay porn gossip blog, The Sword. Such fixated verage has fostered ndid ment cultur across Str8UpGayPorn that are ripe for analysis, reports of Rapid beg chief among the.

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Especially as this trend relat to the Johnny Rapid Go Bareback Barebackg CoupAnalysis of viewer receptivens to the Johnny Rapid Go Bareback mpaign offers particular sights to the functn of ‘bareback event marketg, ’ and wh the impact that the movement towards a “state of ndomlsns” (Brennan, 2020a, 131) gay porn has had on dience expectatns around what nstut a newsworthy performance—together wh dience views on the ethics of ndomls promotn self.

Jt as the 2010s hered the equent prentatns of acts that would have been nsired extreme pornography a earlier—such as anal creampi—on s that are generally nsired “vanilla” gay porn (Kiss Nielsen & Kiss, 2015, 132), Morris has himself been forced to gravate towards more extreme portrayals orr to mata his radil reputatn. This hook is employed pecially by gay-for-pay (see Mercer, 2011) s such as Broke Straight Boys and Ba B, together wh virgal twk properti such as Boys First Time (which is among Rapid’s first creds).

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The ‘hook’ the se of Bromo’s lnch (and Morris’ attempts at ntued relevance an era where ndomls gay porn is the norm once more) is to be able to make some claim that what viewers are seeg is new. The novelty of the Johnny Rapid Go Bareback mpaign, therefore, through the prentatn of a sue of scen pictg a prolific, yet still young, gay-for-pay performer beg perated ‘raw, ’ and perhaps ‘seed’ for the first time on screen.

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Le (aka Vadim Black) and Ben (aka Sean Cody’s Sean) (lks NSFW) are two straight-intified guys who make their livg by dog gay porn. They were both profiled on last night’s Te Life: I’m a Gay for Pay Porn Star. They were both extremely firm on their heterosexual orientatn (no doubt bee their le of work lls to be qutned regularly, certaly om the outsi, but probably ternally as well). My takeaway is that the guys are really straight, or they’re by now very gifted at mimickg the kd of ennui that om performg sexual acts one wouldn’t otherwise have tert for money. * tatu gay for pay *

For example, one ment that lls for “real creampi” and “felchg” (the act of eatg a creampie), “bee regular barebackg has bee so mon gay porn now ’s almost borg.

” (see Florênc, 2018) Also, as John Mercer (2017) not, the “first time” vice is “one of the key disurs of youth that is summoned up gay porn, ” (89) which is an unrstandg of the genre that helps expla the stg of Rapid for this particular re of passage. Consirg first the reactns to the news of Rapid’s bareback performance, the failure of Bromo to stir up tert—and for s tend msage to land wh Str8UpGayPorn rears—is surmised by two them; namely: bareback as self now mundane, and Rapid’s bareback but as dangero. ’” (C55) The more plited of the two them that emerged the wake of the announcement is the healthism 2: As DangeroOf urse, bareback sex was once the norm gay pornography—before the HIV/AIDS era—, and was mpaigns of another kd—namely for safer sex—that have created the opportuni for harsh judgement, even censure, here and more broadly.

As one mentator cril of the anti-bareback discsn surmis: “for 99% of ‘anti barebackg’ gay upl, ’s bee they don’t tst each other and themselv.

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A perhaps more nuanced view is that barebackg as a practice and (as of 2021) a now domant ndn of gay pornography, as nsumed and experienced the 21th century, is a se of creasg negotiatn and tst. Weeks wr that sexual inti are “necsary fictns” (1995, 98) shaped by historil circumstanc: the spread of HIV wh Wtern gay and queer male muni of which is a se pot, and a circumstance om which we vised a “grammar for safer sex.

” (98) Whether we as dividuals and nstuted inti, and the gay porn dtry as producers of reprentatns of sexual practic, nform to or mise this grammar, seems, remas ntted terra. Footnote 21 We turn now to viewer asssment of the scen of Rapid’s barebackg but, such asssments that were thored the ments sectns of Str8UpGayPorn’s of the Johnny Rapid Go Bareback CampaignFour scen were released as part of the Johnny Rapid Go Bareback mpaign—one per week begng on Augt 6, 2015. It lks the populary of barebackg gay pornography at the time—and mpaigns that promote (such as Johnny Rapid Go Bareback)—wh the glamoro advertisements of big tobac pani of yteryear.

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It is a view that regniz the potential of the ter promotg certa sexual practic (see Rosenberger et al., 2011); but also, pots to the “risky bs” of a regrsive trajectory followg a perceived cle the threat of HIV—whereby “agast all good medil advice, ” the porn dtry is puttg profs ahead of muny health by “showg healthy lookg people engagg unhealthy behavr, ” and “sendg a bad msage, pecially to young gay men, ” for many of whom porn, is assumed, plays an important role their inty formatn. Not only do nfirm abundant e of pornography by gay men (also see Duggan & McCreary, 2004), but also, of the 20 participants who took part the study, three quarters of those terviewed attributed gay pornography as their primary means of learng about gay sex durg adolcence (Elr et al., 2015, 951) foregog viewer ment is ak to what Alex Carballo-Diéguez and José Bermeister (2004) found their paratively early ntent analysis of ments for and agast barebackg. (2007), for stance, fd ltle support for the rrelatn between the viewg of gay pornography and harmful sexual, such media effects arguments nnot be disunted outright.

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