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• THAT GAY EPISO: ‘FRASIER’ IS GAY COMEDY BY GAY PEOPLE STARRG STRAIGHT CHARACTERS
• WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
• WILL NIL BE GAY THE NEW ‘FRASIER’ REBOOT?

THAT GAY EPISO: ‘FRASIER’ IS GAY COMEDY BY GAY PEOPLE STARRG STRAIGHT CHARACTERS

Beg a gay viewer 2019, there are optns, honey. When I was a young, eply closeted gay the late ’90s, we really jt had two shows: Ellen and Will & Grace, and those two didn’t even overlap on-air.

Frasier’s not textually a gay show, but ’s a really gay show–and was pecially gay if you were watchg TV wh your nservative Christian parents Tennsee the mid-’90s. Sure, that’s partly due to the narrow-md nflatn of “cultured” and “gay, ” which is a thg and fely the South’s whole thg.

WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

I knew Frasier was the gayt of shows before I even knew what gay was. But as “other” as Frasier seemed to me as a middle schooler, there was nothg explicly gay about Frasier.

It didn’t even have one recurrg gay character on –asi om the eply closeted, married-to-a-woman Gil Chterton.

WILL NIL BE GAY THE NEW ‘FRASIER’ REBOOT?

Friends, a show where two dus refed to even change the channel for days for fear of losg the ee porn that magilly appeared, was actually gayer than Frasier bee of Carol and San!

” In the episo, Frasier the character is prumed gay by a gut gay for all of the same reasons Frasier the show was prumed gay. Of urse he’s gay!