ABC rrponnt Father Edward Beck asks whether gay prits the Catholic Church are the problem?
Contents:
- ‘IT IS NOT A CLOSET. IT IS A CAGE.’ GAY CATHOLIC PRITS SPEAK OUT
- CATHOLIC PRITS: IT'S 'EMPIRIL FACT' THAT MANY CLERGY ARE GAY
- WHY DID SO MANY GAY MEN ENTER THE PRITHOOD THE 20TH CENTURY?
- FOUR FIVE VATIN PRITS ARE GAY, BOOK CLAIMS
- 80 PERCENT OF PRITS THE VATIN ARE GAY: NEW BOOK
- GAY PRITS: BREAKG THE SILENCE
- IN ITALY, GAY PRITS COME OUT VIA LETTER DECRYG HOMOPHOBIA THE CHURCH; AND MORE NEWS
- OPENLY GAY CATHOLIC PRIT DISCS POPE FRANCIS' APPEAL FOR LGBTQ PROTECTNS
- ARE GAY PRITS THE PROBLEM?
- THE GAY CHURCH
- WHAT ABOUT ‘GAY’ PRITS?
‘IT IS NOT A CLOSET. IT IS A CAGE.’ GAY CATHOLIC PRITS SPEAK OUT
Some Catholic clergy say most prits are gay. * priests are gay *
” And yet, thoands of the church’s prits are stori of gay prits are unspoken, veiled om the outsi world, known only to one another, if they are known at than about 10 prits the Uned Stat have dared to e out publicly. And yet proment bishops have sgled out gay prits as the root of the problem, and right-wg media anizatns attack what they have lled the church’s “homosexual subculture, ” “lavenr mafia, ” or “gay bal. He has lled homosexualy “fashnable, ” remend that men wh “this ep-seated tenncy” not be accepted for mistry and admonished gay prits to be “perfectly rponsible, tryg to never create sndal.
”The sexual revolutn happeng outsi semary walls might as well have happened on the moon, and natnal ton the fight for gay rights, like the Stonewall rts, on prit a ral dce said the l remd him of how his elementary school forced left-hand stunts to wre wh their right hand.
When the abe crisis broke out aga last summer, the former Vatin ambassador to the Uned Stat, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, acced “homosexual works” of Amerin rdals of secretly workg to protect abers. “Instead of seeg creased acuntabily on the parts of the bishops, uld bee once aga a nmnatn of lbian, gay, transsexual people wh the church, ” John Coe, 63, a permanent an Kentucky, who me out last year, said about the summ. Louis-based Catholic clergymen, says there's a wi range of statistics out there on gay prits, but jok that his experience, "30 percent are gay, 30 percent are straight, and 30 percent are nial.
CATHOLIC PRITS: IT'S 'EMPIRIL FACT' THAT MANY CLERGY ARE GAY
* priests are gay *
In fact, the fact that we have only one sat repeatedly quoted on this topic om 19 centuri before our own prov to me that we have never had an epimic of so many homosexuals the prithood as today.
This blog post is not about the full history of homosexuals the prithood, but rather the cultural factors and attacks on the Church the 20th century that created the perfect storm for many homosexuals to enter Catholic semari. If you doubt that this terpretatn is a simply a stretch to clu homosexualy my blog post, look at which word the Apostle Pl to show how practicg homosexuals will not make to Heaven: "Or do you not know that the unrighteo will not her the kgdom of God?
WHY DID SO MANY GAY MEN ENTER THE PRITHOOD THE 20TH CENTURY?
What's sad about the se of Msgr. Jefey Burrill, who rigned his post after allegatns of g a gay datg app, is that clergy n't e out as gay and stay the church. * priests are gay *
Do not be ceived: neher the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexualy (μαλακοὶ), nor thiev, nor the greedy, nor dnkards, nor revilers, nor swdlers will her the kgdom of God" (1 Cor 6:9–10). Also remember that, although this blog post is not about the rapg of children, remember that nota bene number six at the begng of this blog post shows that 80 percent of the prits who harm children were intified as gay. The that followed Vatin II was not the genis of gay prits, but allowed them to live the open, and here's my gus as to why: All through semary, I was told that there was no change to lurgy or doctre.
A man who do not believe any objective orr for his sexualy (homo-sex at bt, child abe at worst) is gog to be attracted to a Mass where he, the narcissist, is the only pot of reference for entertag the people. Some of the most senr clerics the Roman Catholic church who have vociferoly attacked homosexualy are themselv gay, acrdg to a book to be published next per cent of prits workg at the Vatin are gay, although not necsarily sexually active, is claimed the book, In the Closet of the 570-page book, which the French journalist and thor Frédéric Martel spent four years rearchg, is a “startlg acunt of rptn and hypocrisy at the heart of the Vatin”, acrdg to s Brish publisher is beg published eight languag across 20 untri next Wednday, cidg wh the openg day of a nference at the Vatin on sexual abe, to which bishops om all over the world have been, a former adviser to the French ernment, nducted 1, 500 terviews while rearchg the book, cludg wh 41 rdals, 52 bishops and monsignors, 45 papal ambassadors or diplomatic officials, 11 Swiss guards and more than 200 prits and semarians, acrdg to a report on the Catholic webse the spoke of an unspoken of the “closet”, wh one le of thumb beg that the more homophobic a cleric was, the more likely he was to be alleg that one Colombian rdal, the late Alfonso López Tjillo, who held a senr Vatin posn, was an arch-fenr of church teachg on homosexualy and ntraceptn while g male prostut, the Tablet thor found that some gay prits accepted their sexualy and a few mataed discreet relatnships, but others sought high-risk sual enunters. Although the book do not nflate homosexualy wh the sexual abe of children, Martel scrib a secretive culture among prits that creat ndns which abe is not nonted, say people faiar wh the book’s ntents.
”But a Polish prit who was sacked om his Vatin job and ocked after announcg he was gay has acced the church of makg the liv of lns of gay Catholics “a hell” a letter to Francis 2015, Krzysztof Charamsa cricised what he lled the Vatin’s hypocrisy banng gay prits and said the clergy was “full of homosexuals” December, Francis was quoted a book about votns as sayg homosexualy was a “fashn” to which the clergy was sceptible. In our societi even seems that homosexualy is fashnable and that mentaly, some way, also fluenc the life of the church, ” he timg of Insi the Closet’s publitn, at the start of a tone summ on sexual abe, will raise ncerns that some people may seek to nflate the two the book’s allegatns are likely to be pored over by senr bishops flyg to Rome om more than 100 untri for the four-day summ. A total of about 80 percent of the most revered clerics the Roman Catholic Church are homosexual spe the church’s opposn to gay rights, acrdg to the extensively rearched book by French journalist Frédéric Martel.
FOUR FIVE VATIN PRITS ARE GAY, BOOK CLAIMS
The gay prits adhere to an unspoken lled “the closet, ” where is unrstood that, for stance, a rdal or bishop who nounc homosexualy is more likely to be gay, acrdg to the book “In the Closet of the Vatin.
A group of 122 people which clus current and former prits, teachers, admistrators and volunteers intified themselv as gay or queer to prsure the Roman Catholic Church Germany to do away wh s “outdated statements of church doctre, ” Dtsche Welle reports. While Pope Francis famoly rpond "Who am I to judge" when asked about gay prits durg a papal prs nference, he has also said that anyone wh "ep seated" homosexual tennci shouldn't be a prit. "Their place is not mistry or nsecrated life, " he Jam Mart, a Ju prit and thor, and the most high-profile advote for LGBTQ Catholics, said, "I thk that if you had sudnly all the gay prits the Uned Stat e out, I thk the Church would be forced to look at the qutn of homosexualy a very different light.
" "One of the thgs I lament is, if there were a se of, say, bullyg a parish or a school, would be wonrful for the gay prit to get up and say, 'Look, I was bullied as a boy, '" Father Mart said. ""It is a large, silent muny, a vast silent majory, " said Frédéric Martel, a French thor who spent four years rearchg his book, "In the Closet of the Vatin, " about the gay unrworld there. Father Greg Green, fahfully servg his parish Wisns, said secrecy is a surge the church, so the first step for him is beg open and asked, "You signed up to work for an stutn that thks beg gay, actg out on that, is a s.
80 PERCENT OF PRITS THE VATIN ARE GAY: NEW BOOK
Bernatte Catholic Parish, Milwkee, Jam Mart on Twter"In the Closet of the Vatin: Power, Homosexualy, Hypocrisy" by Frédéric Martel (Bloomsbury Contuum), Hardver, Tra Paperback, eBook and Aud formats, available via Amazon and Indiebound Story produced by Sari Aviv and Anna Matranga. Fifty gay prits Italy broke their silence and me out publicly, cricizg a culture of homophobia semari, church documents, and the clergy which, they wre, “silence appears as the only way of survival. Layck, who leans nservative on LGBTQ+ rights, lled the RMA “a mol for further legislatn” and “important breakthrough” as is a promise regnizg that any “legislative progrs on gay rights requir rrpondg protectns for relig liberty.
And so this ll for the civil regnn and protectn of gay civil unns, 's really an affirmatn of the humany of gay and lbian persons - that he's sayg that bee gay and lbian persons are human begs, that society, that the state, that ernments have an obligatn and a duty to protect their basic human Do extendg the right to a civil unn and acknowledgg that LGBTQ people should be allowed to have a partner their life through a civil unn and a fay - do that mean children? Now, may seem to be a semantic difference, but I thk what the pope is sayg is that he is not opposed to the legal regnn of fay life and the right for gay and lbian persons to raise and have As a gay Catholic yourself, I mean, as a man of fah, as a Catholic, is somehow ls signifint, I would image, a civil unn than beg able to be married the church? I personally - and I know many others, gay and lbian persons and those who are alli and who love - would want the church to be able to one day regnize the lovg mments of LGBTQ persons the sacrament of marriage.
GAY PRITS: BREAKG THE SILENCE
And what the pope is dog wh this kd of claratn - he's clearly puttg the Catholic Church on the si of agast the crimalizatn of behavr and favor of protectg the human digny of gay and lbian But help me unrstand this bee 's my unrstandg that the Catholic Church still nsirs homosexualy to be a s, not somethg that should be enuraged a liftyle. And I thk that this really giv a different lens for that kd of nversatn that go on the Catholic Church that we're basilly sayg that, no, gay and lbian persons n, you know, have a right to a fay. When early Christian mentators such as John Chrysostom, one of the most prolific biblil wrers of the fourth century, cricized homosexual acts, was typilly part of an ascetic nmnatn of all sexual experienc.
April 15, 2010 — -- The sex abe sndal the Roman Catholic Church took yet another turn this week when statements by the Vatin's secretary of state, Cardal Tarcis Bertone, send only to Pope Benedict, lked pedophilia to homosexualy. Bertone said: "Many psychologists, many psychiatrists have monstrated that there is no relatnship between celibacy and pedophilia, but many others have monstrated that there is a relatnship between homosexualy and pedophilia. Pedophilia and ephebophilia are sexual disorrs that afflict both heterosexuals and homosexuals, and mostly problem of sexual abe is rooted not orientatn but rather pathology ed by the environmental, behavral, blogil and societal ndns of the aber.
IN ITALY, GAY PRITS COME OUT VIA LETTER DECRYG HOMOPHOBIA THE CHURCH; AND MORE NEWS
Trma om early childhood (ag 2-5), cludg sexual abe and arrted sexual velopment are the most mon factors ced by those who diagnose sexual, there are gay anecdotal statistics suggt as many as 40 percent of prits may be gay, acrdg to Jam Wolf's book "Gay Prits, " although this is not verifiable bee many rema silent for fear of eccliastil and societal, y, a small mory of gay prits who were sexually arrted and maladjted abed boys. By the way, this would be te even if celibacy were not a required disciple the homosexualy, celibacy is not a pertent issue bee child abers are not terted or pable of adult relatnships.
"Notwhstandg the media sh to nmn the journalistic methods of the staff at The Pillar, who first reported about Monsignor Burrill's alleged improper behavrs, journalists have once aga boxed themselv to the same old trope: shock and awe that a closeted gay prit might be vtigated by nservative journalists hopg to make even more narrow the Roman Catholic Church the Uned Stat. Even gay and nservative has no place the Roman Catholic public relatns team at Grdr quickly dismissed the notn that any journalist or media pany uld hack to their software and nduct a wch hunt of gay people. It is therefore feasible to believe that at the very least, if he did not break wh the cleril le of celibacy, he did acpany other gay men to gay bars or meet wh gay men, the bishops nference's statement quickly assuag ncerns about the possibily that Monsignor Burrill's improper behavr volved mors.
OPENLY GAY CATHOLIC PRIT DISCS POPE FRANCIS' APPEAL FOR LGBTQ PROTECTNS
This is alarmg, bee to al wh gays and wh what would normally be healthy, generative adult behavr between nsentg adults, the archbishop mt first assureCatholics that Monsignor Burrill is not a pedophile spe possibly beg a, there is a sense that by actg on same-sex sexual sir, Monsignor Burrill is no ls a sner than the rt of , that he may feel shame or far worse, ashamed. To me this argument do not pass the lm tt, bee by suggtg that by actg on one's same-sex sexual sire that gays or lbians feel shame or should be ashamed suggts disfort wh the private acts of nsentg adults. This is why the protectn of mors should be the rponsibily solely of law enforcement and not alt wh by a church that is historilly known for allowg s of abe of mors by unhealthy, distegrated men (men who are not gay!
It is not shockg that he may have slipped and broken celibacy; what is shockg is that he uld never e out publicly as a gay prit and be the man God created him to be, God's image and likens. A church that, sce 2005, bans prits wh “ep-seated homosexual tennci” and officially teach that gay men are “objectively disorred” and herently disposed toward “trsic moral evil” is actually posed, ways very few other stutns are, of gay men.
This cultural and moral shift has not only changed the nscns of most Amerin Catholics (67 percent of whom support civil marriage for gay upl) and gay prits (many of whom are close to qutg) but also broken the silence that long shroud the subject. Alarmed by the possibily that divorced and remarried people might be weled as well as gays, tradnalists lnched a fierce rearguard mpaign agast the new papacy, wh a foc on what some lled a “Lavenr Mafia” nng the church, and broke new ground nnectg this directly to the horrifyg revelatns of sex abe that me to light 2002.
ARE GAY PRITS THE PROBLEM?
In creasgly direct ways, they have argued that the root of the sndal was not abe of power, or pedophilia, or clerilism, or the distortive psychologil effects of celibacy and stutnal homophobia, but gayns self.
” Michael Hichborn, head of the ge-right Lepanto Instute, lled for a “plete and thorough removal of all homosexual clergymen om the church … It is gog to be difficult and will likely rult a very ser prit shortage, but ’s fely worth the effort. Here, seemed, was a pedophile and an abive gay man, at the very apex of the church, known to be sexually active wh semarians, protected by his peers, and tolerated for s by many the hierarchy, cludg the last three pop.
At one pot as we spoke the next day the hospal, he was greeted by a woman who asked for an on-the-spot nfsn and he shooed me asi; later I met an anguished gay man om an ultra-Catholic fay he was unselg; and for a few hours on Sunday morng, he was wh the wife and teenage sons of a dyg man. The news environment is saturated wh stori about sex abe — and rightly so — yet there are hardly any public exampl of the overwhelmg number of gay prits who would never dream of preyg upon the powerls.
THE GAY CHURCH
For example, as the late historian John Boswell monstrated his groundbreakg, ntroversial book Christiany, Social Tolerance, and Homosexualy, a fourth-century Christian wrer, John Chrysostom, attacked the lears of the church for beg too acceptg of same-sex love and even sex: “Those very people who have been nourished by godly doctre, who stct others what they ought and ought not to do … the do not nsort wh prostut as fearlsly as they do wh young men … None is ashamed, no one blh … the chaste seem to be the odd on, and the disapprovg the on error. ” There was nsirable Christian ncern about sex general — followg the teachg of sats Pl and Augte — but no nsens that homosexualy, if kept to tense mutual love and celibate iendship, was specifilly problematic.
Homosexuals, the new theology, were part of nature — many had noticed homosexual behavr the animal kgdom, particularly among har and hyenas — but they were also somehow ntrary to nature. Carl Jung intified the archetypal gifts of the homosexual: “a great pacy for iendship, which often creat ti of astonishg tenrns between men”; a talent for teachg, athetics, and tradn (“to be nservative the bt sense and cherish the valu of the past”); “a wealth of relig feelgs, which help to brg the ecclia spirualis to realy; and a spirual receptivy which mak him rponsive to revelatn. In many ways, the old, elaborate High Mass, wh s cense and procsns, lor-d vtments, lurgil plexy, mil precisn, choirs, ans, and sheer drama, is obvly, part, a creatn of the gay prithood.
WHAT ABOUT ‘GAY’ PRITS?
But some abe of male teens and young adults, as well as abe of other prits, is clearly related to homosexualy gone horribly astray — and around a quarter of the reported s volve 15- to 17-year-old victims.
He was also the theologian who monstrated a manic sire to police the slightt viatn om orthodoxy, who scribed gay people as “objectively disorred” and cled toward an “trsic moral evil, ” and who, after he banned gay prits, lled them “one of the miseri of the church. Some of the gay prits I spoke wh acknowledged laps but sisted that, nsultatn wh their spirual directors and superrs, they chose celibacy when the choice beme impossible to ignore or avoid. ” The problem, he said, was if gays were to form some kd of factn or lobby wh the church — but this, he explaed, applied to any lobby: “a lobby of misers, a lobby of policians, a lobby of Masons.