Today Gay History: The Inimable Barbara Stanwyck

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• BARBARA STANWYCK: HOLLYWOOD LEGEND, GAY IN, AND TOUGH-AS-NAILS SUPERSTAR
• STANWYCK & TAYLOR – A LAVENR MARRIAGE? JULY 6, 2015 ADM DID YOU KNOW? 45 WHEN ME TO QUTNS ABOUT HER SEXUALY, BARBARA STANWYCK WAS THE OLD STUD DAYS’ EQUIVALENT OF TODAY’S TOM CISE. ANY MENTN OF HER SEXUAL PREFERENC WOULD IMMEDIATELY BRG FORTH VEILED THREATS OF LIGATN SHOULD THE SUBJECT BE PURSUED. CISE DO THE SAME THG TODAY. MENTN HIS NAME NNECTN WH HOMOSEXUALY OR BISEXUALY AND HE WILL THREATEN TO SUE. I RECENTLY READ A BOOK WHICH HE WAS NTUALLY REFERRED TO AS ‘THE HETEROSEXUAL TOM CISE’ THROUGHOUT, PERHAPS A HUNDRED TIM. THE SARSM WAS OBV BUT, APPARENTLY, THE WRERS FELT NECSARY JT TO KEEP ON THE SAFE SI.STANWYCK & WEBB  TANIC (1953)THERE IS ENOUGH EVINCE ABOUT MISS STANWYCK TO BE ABLE TO STATE WH SOME CERTATY THAT SHE WAS EHER A LBIAN OR BISEXUAL. OF URSE, THAT DO NOT MAKE HER ANY WAY UNIQUE HOLLYWOOD. FAR OM . ACTOR CLIFTON WEBB SCRIBED HER AS, ‘MY FAVOURE HOLLYWOOD LBIAN’. HER HBAND, ROBERT TAYLOR, TOLD SHELLEY WTERS OVER DNER THAT BARBARA WAS A LBIAN AND THAT THEY HAD SEPARATE BEDS. THEIRS WAS JT ONE OF DOZENS OF ‘LAVENR’ MARRIAG THE MOVIE MUNY. BARBARA’S OWN BGRAPHER, AXEL MADSEN, WROTE THAT ‘PEOPLE WOULD SWEAR THAT SHE WAS HOLLYWOOD’S BIGGT CLOSETED LBIAN’.LOOKG BACK, IS PERFECTLY UNRSTANDABLE WHY THE ‘MARRIAG OF NVENIENCE’ WERE NECSARY. HOMOSEXUALY, BISEXUALY AND LBIANISM WERE ILLEGAL EVERY STATE OF THE UNN. ANYONE PUBLICLY INTIFIED AS GAY WOULD NOT ONLY LOSE THEIR REER, BUT N THE REAL RISK OF SPENDG TIME THE ‘SLAMMER, MAKG LTLE ROCKS OUT OF BIG ON. IT WAS A MOST SER ISSUE. LIKE MANY LBIANS, STANWYCK WAS NOT AVERSE TO EXPERIMENTG WH THE OPPOSE SEX OM TIME TO TIME, PECIALLY A MUNY HABED BY SO MANY ‘BETIFUL PEOPLE’ OF BOTH SEX. SHE AND TAYLOR PROBABLY NSUMMATED THEIR RELATNSHIP ON OCSN, BUT NEHER HAD MUCH TERT THE OPPOSE SEX. HAVG SAID THAT, AFTER THEIR DIVORCE 1952 SHE EMBARKED ON A FOUR YEAR AFFAIR WH THE MUCH YOUNGER ROBERT WAGNER, BEGNG WHEN THEY APPEARED TOGETHER  TANIC.WAGNER & STANWYCK  TANICSTANWYCK WAS BORN RUBY STEVENS BROOKLYN, NEW YORK CY, 1907. HER MOTHER DIED WHEN SHE WAS FOUR, AND HER FATHER TOOK OFF TO HELP BUILD THE PANAMA CANAL AND WAS NEVER SEEN AGA. HE MAY HAVE SIMPLY ‘SHOT THROUGH’, OR HE MAY HAVE BEE ONE OF THE THOANDS OF YELLOW FEVER SUALTI ON THE PROJECT. OF THE 26,000 WORKERS ON THE NAL 21,000 WERE HOSPALIZED FOR EHER YELLOW FEVER OR MALARIA. WE WILL NEVER KNOW. RUBY AND HER BROTHERS AND SISTERS WERE FOSTERED OUT SEVERAL TIM. SHE LEFT SCHOOL AT 14, GAED WORK AS A DANCE STCTOR AT TEXAS GUAN’S LBIAN SPEAK-EASY, WHERE SHE MET JOAN CRAWFORD AND TALLULAH BANKHEAD WHO WERE REGULARS. BANKHEAD SAID SHE SLEPT WH STANWYCK THE 20’S. CRAWFORD, GARBO AND DIETRICH WERE ALSO LOVERS SHARED BY BANKHEAD AND STANWYCK.IN 1928 BARBARA MARRIED VVILLIAN FRANK FAY. THEY LEFT FOR HOLLYWOOD TO TRY THEIR LUCK. WHENEVER HE BEAT HER UP, WHICH WAS OFTEN, SHE FOUND SOLACE THE ARMS OF CRAWFORD. WHEN EDDIE MANNIX REFERRED TO BARBARA AS FAY’S ‘DYKE WIFE’ ONE NIGHT AT THE BROWN DERBY, A FISTFIGHT ENSUED AND MANNIX PUNCHED FAY OUT.FRANK & BARBARA FAYTHEY ADOPTED A SON 1932, BARBARA LOST TERT HIM ALMOST AT ONCE, AND THEY REMAED TRANGED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIV. ‘SOME KIDS ARE BORN WH BAD BLOOD’, SHE SAID BY WAY OF EXPLANATN. ‘JT LIKE HORS. WHEN A PARENT HAS DONE EVERYTHG POSSIBLE, THE ONLY SOLUTN IS TO SAVE YOURSELF.’ IN TTH, HER REER WAS ALL SHE RED ABOUT. WHEN A DNKEN FAY THREW THE TODDLER THEIR POOL DURG AN ARGUMENT, BARBARA CID WAS TIME TO JETTISON HER FAY. SHE DIVORCED HIM 1935.BARBARA & JOAN CRAWFORDROBERT TAYLOR WAS AN ONLY CHILD, BORN SPANGLER ARLGTON BGH, 1911 NEBRASKA. HE WAS A DDLED, SPELS MAMA’S BOY. WHEN HIS MIC TEACHER, HUBERT GRAY, LEFT FOR HOLLYWOOD HE WAS NSOLABLE, TELLG IENDS ‘HIS WORLD FELL APART’. HE SOON FOLLOWED, MOVG WH GRAY. BEFORE LONG, TAYLOR’S MOTHER MOVED WH BOTH OF THEM.ROBERT TAYLOR CIR 1932JOG THE PASANA PLAYHOE REPERTORY COMPANY, HE SOON BEME A ‘FAVOURE OF NOTORLY GAY DIRECTOR GILMOR BROWN. EVERY YEAR BROWN CHOSE A ‘PROTéGé’. THAT YEAR WAS TAYLOR. A YEAR LATER WOULD BE TYRONE POWER. EVERYBODY THE PANY KNEW THAT ‘PROTEGE’ MEANT PRIVATE ‘REHEARSALS’ OVERNIGHT STAYS AT THE DIRECTOR’S HOME.GILMOR BROWNTHROUGHOUT HIS LONG REER AT MGM, TAYLOR TSTED LB MAYER IMPLICLY. CONSEQUENTLY, MAYER TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT TST, AND BOB REMAED THE LOWT PAID OF ALL THE STUD’S MAJOR STARS. HE ALWAYS FELT FORTUNATE TO BE ON THEIR BOOKS, HOWEVER. HENCE, HE REMAED WH MGM UNTIL THE MISE OF THE STUD SYSTEM THE LATE FIFTI, A RERD 24 YEARS ALL. HE HAD ONLY GOOD THGS TO SAY ABOUT HIS BOSS.STANWYCK SIGNED NON-EXCLIVE NTRACTS WH BOTH COLUMBIA AND WARNER BROS, AND EELANCED WH MGM. WHEN MOURS ABOUT BARBARA’S AND ROBERT TAYLOR’S SEXUALY BEME RIFE, MGM HEADS VIRTUALLY ORRED THEM TO MARRY BEFORE THEIR REERS WERE PERMANENTLY TORPEDOED. TAYLOR RELUCTANTLY AGREED BEE HE WAS AAID OF LOSG HIS REER. STANWYCK AGREED BEE SHE KNEW NOT TO CROSS LB MAYER. HE ULD BE EXTREMELY VDICTIVE.JT MARRIEDTHEY MARRIED ON MAY 13, 1939 SAN DIEGO. TAYLOR CLED TO KISS HIS BRI FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHERS. HE WENT HOME TO HIS MOTHER’S THAT NIGHT. SHE HAD TO BE SEDATED WHEN SHE LEARNED HE WAS NO LONGER SGLE. BARBARA WENT BACK TO HER RANCH. THEY WERE RARELY TOGETHER. TAYLOR SPENT HIS WEEKENDS WH HIS GAY PILOT CHUM FLYG PLAN. WHEN THEY WERE TOGETHER BARBARA LLED THE SHOTS. TAYLOR WAS JT TOO TIMID. SHE BULLIED HIM ONT OF HIS FAY AND IENDS. ONE EVENG HE WAS DRKG WH JOHN WAYNE AND OTHERS, WHEN SHE ME DOWN THE STAIRS AND SAID: ‘SEND YOUR IENDS HOME. IT’S TIME FOR BED.’ HE MEEKLY PLIED. EVEN SO, SHE HAD FEELGS FOR HIM, WHICH EXPLAS WHY THEY REMAED TOGETHER FOR 13 YEARS.TURNER & TAYLOR  JOHNNY EAGERIN 1941, HE MA JOHNNY EAGER OPPOSE MAN-EATER LANA TURNER, WHO WAS AT THE PEAK OF HER BETY. SHE WENT AFTER HIM WH A VENGEANCE. MOST HISTORIANS (AND BARBARA) BELIEVED SHE GOT HIM TO THE SACK. SURPRISGLY, BARBARA SLASHED HER WRISTS OVER THE AFFAIR. MGM TOLD THE PRS SHE WAS ATTEMPTG TO OPEN A STUCK WDOW AND SHATTERED, CUTTG HER ARMS. THE UPLE WERE RARELY (IF EVER) TIMATE, BUT THEY DID GROW CLOSER TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS.JOAN & BARBARABARBARA’S PUBLICIST, HELEN FERGON, LIVED WH HER FOR 27 YEARS, BEG PAID JT $400 A MONTH. THE AMOUNT NEVER VARIED ALL THAT TIME. THEY BOTH SWORE LIKE TROOPERS, TOLD SIAR RISQUé, FOUL JOK, BUT NOBODY KNOWS FOR CERTA IF THEY WERE TIMATE. BARBARA, A CHA-SMOKER, DIED 1990 OM EMPHYSEMA. NO FUNERAL, NO GRAVE, AS PER HER STCTNS. TAYLOR WAS ALSO A CHA-SMOKER. LUNG NCER CLAIMED HIM AT 57 1969.BARBARA STANWYCKCLIFTON WEBBANK FAYGILMOR BROWNHELEN FERGONJOAN CRAWFORDJOHNNY EAGERLANA TURNERROBERT TAYLORROBERT WAGNERTALLULAH BANKHEADTEXAS GUANTANIC PREVTHELMA TODD’S ATH – MAYBE MURR AFTER ALL? NEXTDEAN MART – FUNNY AND NICE. 45 COMMENTS TIBO OCTOBER 8, 2022 AT 8:57 AM SEEMS THE MEN THAT SCREWED BARBARA OVER OR WAS SCREWG SOMEONE ELSE OVER FOR HER, MET TRAGIC ENDS.. THAT’LL TEACH YA BUMS! ?REPLY MIKE OM JERSEY JUNE 18, 2022 AT 11:52 AM JOHN CURRAN WROTE –THE JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVIDO YOU MEAN TO SAY THE “SUPPOSED JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI BY RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOONS”OR IS WHAT YOU WROTE WHAT YOU BELIEVE? IT’S UNCLEAR.REPLY MIKE OM JERSEY JUNE 18, 2022 AT 11:57 AM I ULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER MYSELF WHEN I WROTE – “SUPPOSED“SUPPOSED JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI BY RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOONS” RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOONS” WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, IS YOUR POSN THAT THERE WAS “JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI”WHICH POSN WOULD MEAN YOU ARE A RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOON. HOPEFULLY THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU MEANT.REPLY MIKE OM JERSEY JUNE 18, 2022 AT 12:03 PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ABOVE, TOO BAD ONE N’T GO BACK AND ED. I AM ALG WH TARACTS AND ’S A PROBLEM TO SEE. THE “JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF HOLLYWOOD” LE IS OFFENSIVE. I WAS WONRG IF MR. CURRAN MEANT TO AGREE WH THAT IA OR WAS CG .REPLY PIETRA AUGT 25, 2020 AT 4:22 AM I SUGGT YOU READ BARBARA STANWYCK: TE STEEL BY VICTORIA WILSON WHICH PLETELY BUNKS THE STANWYCK-TAYLOR MARRIAGE AS BEG FAKE. FAR OM . IF THE HEAD OF THE MATTACHE SOCIETY, HARRY HAY, SAID ROBERT TAYLOR WASN’T GAY OR BISEXUAL – HE WASN’T. AND WHAT A NERVE STATG THAT “I NEVER SAID HE WAS GAY” AFTER TELLG THAT RIDICULO STORY ABOUT THE PASANA PLAYHOE.THERE’S A GREAT STORY THE BOOK ABOUT TAYLOR AND STANWYCK G HOME AFTER AN ANNIVERSARY DNER. SHE WENT UPSTAIRS, HAVG NO IA HE HAD A SURPRISE PARTY PLANNED AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE. SHE APPEARED AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, NU, AND SAID, “OKAY, BUDDY, E AND GET .” HER BIGGT HEARTBREAK WAS THE LOSS OF HIS LETTERS A FIRE. I N ATTT TO THIS BEE I READ SEVERAL LETTERS SHE WROTE TALKG ABOUT . ALSO TAYLOR HAD AN AFFAIR WH LANA TURNER DURG JOHNNY EAGER. TURNER SAID SHE AND BARBARA WERE ONCE STAYG THE SAME HOTEL AND TURNER LLED HER. BARBARA WOULDN’T SPEAK TO HER AND NEVER SPOKE TO HER AGA. WHEN SHE FOUND OUT HE WAS CHEATG ON HER ROME, WAS THE LAST STRAW, AND THEY DIVORCED.I DON’T UNRSTAND SPREADG THE STUPID MORS ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DIDN’T KNOW, BASED ON BAD REARCH, WHEN VICTORIA WILSON TERVIEWED DOZENS UPON DOZENS, GOG BACK TO HER CHILDHOOD. NOW, THIS IS NOT TO SAY BARBARA WAS NOT BISEXUAL. BUT TO STATE HER MARRIAGE TO TAYLOR WAS A LAVENR ONE IS RRECT. JT BEE THEY’RE BOTH AD, THAT DON’T MAKE TELLG UNTTHS RIGHT. ALSO, NO ONE MA BARBARA GET MARRIED. TAYLOR WAS ENGAGED TO SOMEONE, WHICH THE STUD WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT, AND BROKE OFF WHEN HE MET BARBARA.ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY DIDN’T HAVE CHILDREN, BARBARA HAD A BOTCHED ABORTN AT A VERY YOUNG AGE.REPLY ALAN ROYLE AUGT 25, 2020 AT 9:39 AM THANKYOU FOR YOUR RMATIVE MENTS, PIETRA. NO DOUBT, YOU KNOW FAR MORE ABOUT THEIR MARRIAGE THAN I, AND I BOW TO YOUR BALANCED AND LOGIL ASSSMENT. I ASKED THE QUTN ABOUT THEIR UNN BEG ‘LAVENDAR’, SIMPLY BEE NUMERO SOURC HAVE CLAIMED WAS. UNFORTUNATELY, HOLLYWOOD HISTORY IS RIDDLED WH FALSIFITNS AND STATEMENTS MA BY DIVIDUALS WH HIDN (SOME NOT SO HIDN) AGENDAS, AND IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ARRIVE AT ANY LEVEL OF ABSOLUTE CERTATY. PERSONALLY, I THK BARBARA WAS ED BI-SEXUAL, BUT HER ADORATN FOR HER HBAND SEEMS UNNIABLE. BOB TAYLOR’S RERD OF FEMALE LOVERS WOULD SURELY DITE HE WAS HETEROSEXUAL, ALTHOUGH WAS NOT UNMON FOR STRAIGHT MEN TO DULGE ACTS NTRARY TO THEIR NATURE ORR TO ADVANCE UP THE HOLLYWOOD TOTEM POLE. CLTTE COLBERT ONCE SAID THAT THE ONLY WOMAN SHE KNEW THE MOVIE BS WHO DID NOT E THE ‘STG UCH’ TO GET AHEAD WAS BETTE DAVIS. AND THAT CLUD HERSELF. ONE WONRS HOW MANY STRAIGHT MEN REACHED THE TOP VIA THE SAME ROUTE OF EXPEDIENCY. THE ARTICL I WRE ARE SIMPLY MY PALTRY ATTEMPTS TO UNRAVEL THE MANY MYSTERI OF THE BS. IF I ERR (AND NO DOUBT I DO OM TIME TO TIME), I APOLOGISE UNRERVEDLY. THANKYOU AGA FOR YOUR NDID RPONS, PIETRA.REPLY MARGARET ORTIZ AUGT 7, 2021 AT 1:46 PM WELL WRTEN PEOPLE POUR OVER STORI OF THEIR CELEBRI AND LOVE TO SMEAR THEM ANY WAY THAT WILL SEEM SENSATNAL…OH WELL NNOT WORRY ABOUT THEM NOW BUT LOVED HER ACTG AND ALL MOVI AND THE END THE BIG VALLEY SERI…REPLY DENISE JULY 17, 2023 AT 5:03 PM I SERLY DON’T BELIEVE THE GREAT BARBARA STANWYCK WAS BISEXUAL OR A LBIAN! SHE WAS A MASTER ACTRS WH GREAT TASTE GEO MEN LIKE TAYLOR! IF SHE LIVED WH FERGON, SO WHAT! THAT DON’T MEAN THEY WERE GAY! RIDICULO! THEY WERE AR IENDS, PERD!!REPLY JAM ZEMBOY APRIL 6, 2019 AT 2:58 AM WHAT I THK IS MOST TERTG ABOUT BARBARA STANWYCK AND ROBERT TAYLOR IS THAT SHE WAS, DISPUTABLY, A STUPENDO ACTRS (AND UNFORTUNATELY NEVER THE WNER OF “BT ACTRS” SCE THERE ALWAYS SEEMED TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WAS A TEENY B BETTER! I HAVE A PROBLEM WH THOSE AWARDS FOR THAT REASON–AND FOR SCHOOL AWARDS TOO. THERE SHOULD BE “SEVERAL” WNERS OF “BT ACTOR” OR “BT FRENCH STUNT”–ALL SHARG THE GLORY, NOT JT ONE.) BUT BACK TO STANWYCK AND TAYLOR, ROBERT TAYLOR WAS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE MOST MEDCRE ACTORS WHO EVER LIVED–AND HE KNEW , AND THAT WAS WHY HE WAS HAPPY WH NEVER A SALARY CREASE. HIS ONLY ASSET WAS HIS BETY, AND HE KNEW , AND HE WAS GLAD TO BE KEPT ON BOARD BEE OF . WHEN THE STUD PAIRED HIM WH GRETA GARBO CALE, NOBODY ULD KEEP SILENT ABOUT HIS LOY ACTG PARED WH HERS. BUT AMERIN WOMEN WERE NUTS ABOUT HIM, SO WAS GOOD FOR THE STUD TO HAVE HIM AROUND.I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BAD STANWYCK PERFORMANCE, NOR A GOOD TAYLOR ONE. IF WAS FACT A “LAVENR MARRIAGE,” I’M NOT SURPRISED. HE DID HAVE A SICKENG MOTHER WHO FLIPPED OUT WHEN HE GOT MARRIED, BUT THERE WERE LOTS OF MOTHERS LIKE THAT THOSE DAYS–AND THEY GOT AWAY WH BEE THEY WERE “MOTHERS.” A WOMAN WHO WAS TERRIFIED THAT HER SON WAS GETTG MARRIED EARNED SYMPATHY OM LNS OF OTHER AMERIN MOTHERS STEAD OF THE NMNATN THEY WOULD RECEIVE TODAY. SO HE HAD ONE OF “THOSE” MOTHERS. AND LET’S NOT FET THAT HE FOLLOWED HIS CELLO TEACHER TO CALIFORNIA–SPE NOT BEG A MAJOR MIL GENI OR A SERLY VOTED CELLIST HIMSELF–AND ACTUALLY MPED WH HIM, ALONG WH HIS MAMA.I THK PROBABLY HE WAS GAY AND WAS KEPT SECRET FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS–ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, PERVERTED–PENDG ON WHETHER YOU WERE TALKG ABOUT LAW, RELIGN OR SCIENCE–SO IF HE WAS GAY AND KEPT A SECRET, HE HAD A RIGHT TO. IT WOULD BE STUPID AND SELF-STCTIVE TO “E OUT” AS GAY BEFORE ABOUT 1980 (NO, MAKE THAT 2000).THE STUD DID TRY TO PRENT HIM AS A “REAL MAN” (WHICH, THE LOW-CLASS AMERIN MD, IS A GUY WHO SOLV PROBLEMS WH OTHER PEOPLE BY G HIS FISTS– “A YANK AT OXFORD”–A LOY MOVIE THAT ASSURED PEOPLE THAT A HAIRY CHT PROV A MAN’S HETEROSEXUALY. IT WAS A MAJOR FARCE. AND TAYLOR HIMSELF ONCE “PROVED” HIS HETEROSEXUALY BY EXHIBG THE HAIR ON HIS CHT TO SOMEBODY WHO ASKED IF HE WAS “QUEER.”BUT ALL THAT ASI AND, THE END, THERE WAS NO WAY TO PARE THE TWO OF THEM ACTG. SHE WAS MAGNIFICENT OM THE BEGNG OF HER REER TO THE END; HE WAS NEVER ANYTHG BUT A PRETTY FACE. WHEN THE FACE GOT SLIGHTLY MATURE, THEY SHIFTED HIM TO WBOY ROL.I HAVE WATCHED DOUBLE INMNY AND SORRY WRONG NUMBER AND THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS A HUNDRED TIM EACH AND I N’T FD A SGLE SYLLABLE OR FACIAL EXPRSN OF STANWYCK’S THAT ISN’T PERFECT. I DON’T RE ABOUT HER SEXUALY. I N WALLOW HER ACTG TILL THE DAY I DIE.REPLY ALAN ROYLE APRIL 7, 2019 AT 1:51 AM WE ARE PLETE AGREEMENT, JAM. I THK BARBARA WAS WONRFUL AND I CLASS TAYLOR THE SAME GROUP AS AN ACTOR AS MEL GIBSON. SPUD ORDARY. AND LIKE YOU, I HAVE NO TERT THE SEXUALY OF EHER. THANKYOU FOR YOUR MOST RMATIVE AND BALANCED MENTS.REPLY KELLY AUGT 6, 2021 AT 3:30 PM WH ALL DUE RPECT JAM, WHILE STANWYCK WAS ED A GREAT ACTRS — ONE OF THE BT — SHE HAD A BAD HAB OF SHG HER L DURG ARGUMENTATIVE MOMENTS, ALMOST TO THE POT OF STUMBLG OVER THEM — AND MA THEM FAR MORE MELODRAMATIC THAN THEY SHOULD BE.SHE ALSO HAD THIS ODD HAB OF ADDG “OH GAAWWD!” TO SOME OF HER DIALOGUE, WHICH CREPT TO HER PUBLIC SPEECH AS WELL.HAVG SAID THAT, SHE WAS ED GREAT THE MOVI YOU MENTNED, AND WAS SO SKILLED THAT SHE WAS ONE OF A VERY FEW WHO ULD NOT ONLY CRY GENUE TEARS ON CUE, BUT ULD GIVE YOU ONE TEAR OR TWO, PENDG ON WHAT WAS NEED.AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE HER ACTN, CHECK OUT THE SEQUENCE ‘FORTY GUNS’ WHERE SHE’S THROWN OFF A HORSE AND DRAGGED. HER STUNT WOMAN REFED TO DO , SO STANWYCK DID HERSELF. AND YOU N SEE THAT ED, ’S HER, DURG THE 20-30 SEND SEQUENCE.AS FOR ROBERT TAYLOR, SPE HIS BETY — PECIALLY PRE-1940 — HE WAS FELY PRETTIER THAN STANWYCK, THERE’S NEVER BEEN ANY FIRE THE MIDST OF ALL THE SO-LLED SMOKE. STILL, FARLEY GRANGER TOLD THE FOLLOWG STORY TERVIEWS AND HIS TOBGRAPHY:“I HAD JT RETURNED OM WORKG EUROPE, AND I WASN’T UP ON THE LATT,” HE SAYS. AFTER HE ASKED STANWYCK HOW HER HBAND, BISEXUAL ACTOR ROBERT TAYLOR, WAS DOG, GRANGER SAYS, “SHE JT STARED AT ME VERY LDLY AND SAID, ‘YOU MEAN MR. TAYLOR? HE’S LEFT ME. FOR A WOMAN!’”HE ALSO CHA-SMOKED MORE VIGOROLY THAN BETTE DAVIS — SO MUCH SO THAT HE LOOKED 10 YEARS OLR THAN HIS AGE BY 1950, AND ABOUT 20 YEARS OLR THAN HIS AGE WHEN HE DIED AT ONLY 57 YEARS OLD. AND HE ALSO DRANK. PEOPLE TURN TO ADDICTNS LIKE THAT FOR A REASON, AND WHO KNOWS…MAYBE LIVG A LIE WAS ONE OF THEM?REPLY MARGARET ORTIZ AUGT 7, 2021 AT 1:47 PM TOO BAD HE IS NOT ALIVE TO DISPUTE ANY TRASH WRTEN ABOUT HIM…REPLY K M WARWICK JULY 19, 2018 AT 7:11 PM I WILL MAKE SOME ASSERTNS HERE: OK THE REALY IS THAT CIR 50% OF ALL MEN AND WOMEN ARE BASIC BISEXUALS. THE REMAG 50% IS ROUGHLY SPL BETWEEN BEG EXCLIVELY HETEROSEXUAL OR EXCLIVELY HOMOSEXUAL. THIS TI NEATLY WH KNOWN FACTS (FACTS!) ABOUT THE ANIMAL KGDOM’S SEXUAL PROCLIVI. IN OTHER WORDS, HOMOSEXUALY AND BISEXUALY ARE PERFECTLY NORMAL MANIFTNS OF SEXUALY EVINT ACROSS THE HUMAN AND ANIMAL KGDOMS. IT IS THEN NOT UNREASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT EVINCE SUGGTS THAT NON-BREEDG ANIMALS AND KGDOM ARE ALL A NORMAL PART OF LIFE AND EVEN BIRTH NTROL. BUT, RELIGN, PHILOSOPHY, THE LAW AND ANISATNS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE A REAL ISSUE WH BEG BISEXUAL OR GAY. HOWEVER, WE MT NCLU THAT THIS FLI THE FACE OF FACTO EVINCE THAT HOMOSEXUALY IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ABNORMAL, AND THAT SOCIETY MT ALLOW PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO BE DIFFERENT WH A WORLD OF PREJUDICE, PERSECUTN, PROECUTN AND CEL DISCRIMATN. HUMAN RIGHTS MT TMP THE IGNORANCE AND TOLLERANC OF THE HUMAN JUDG. THANKS FOR READG THIS.REPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 20, 2018 AT 1:42 AM THANKYOU FOR THAT LSON ON SEXUALY, KEH. I NNOT TELL IF YOU ARE HAVG A DIG AT ME FOR WRG THE ARTICLE ON STANWYCK & TAYLOR OR MERELY ENLIGHTENG ME. IN THE PAST I HAVE BEEN LABELLED HOMOPHOBIC BY REARS WHO LIGHT PNG LABELS ON WRERS THE MOMENT THEY PEN SOMETHG ABOUT SOMEONE’S SEXUALY. IF I WRE A PIECE ABOUT GAY ACTORS I DO SO BEE THEIR SEXUALY IS OF TERT TO A PROPORTN OF REARS AND BEE I ENJOY SETTG THE RERD STRAIGHT, GIVEN THE S OF LI TOLD BY THE STUDS ABOUT THEIR STARS. PERSONALLY, I HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF TERT IF SOMEONE IS GAY OR NOT, RIGHT-HAND OR LEFT-HAND, REDHEAD OR BLON, JEW OR GENTILE. MY ONLY TERT (AS A HISTORIAN) IS GETTG THE FACTS RIGHT, AND IF THAT MAK ME HOMOPHOBIC THE EY OF SOME REARS, WELL, SO BE .REPLY K M WARWICK JULY 20, 2018 AT 2:30 AM HI ALANWELL, HONTLY, NO, I WAS NOT AT ALL ADDRSG THE POST TO YOU PERSONALLY – NOT AT ALL. IT WAS ADDRSED TO YOUR REARS – OR THE FOLK OUT THERE. I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE IMPRSN THAT YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE! WE BOTH KNOW STANWYCK LIVED AN ERA OF EXTREME HOMOPHOBIC ETHOS; EVEN TODAY REMNANTS OF THIS MIASMA OF PREJUDICE STILL PERSISTS – SADLY. AS A HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST, AND AN HISTORIL NOVELIST, I TAKE A SPECIAL TERT THE NTEXTUAL NUANC AND MORAL DG THAT THE PAST STILL REGAL THE PRENT WH; THE SOCIAL HERANCE AND GENERATNAL IDMS, IOLOGY AND ALL THAT. AND THE NSEQUENT NTRIBUTN OF SCIENTIFIC FACT AND DISVERY THAT RMS OUR WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE, NTUALLY. ANYWAYS – SORRY I GAVE YOU AN IMPRSN I WAS NOT TENDG YOU TO PERCIEVE! BT WISH KMWREPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 20, 2018 AT 12:49 PM THANKYOU FOR, KEH, FOR SETTG ME STRAIGHT ON THAT. MY SCERE APOLOGI. I HAVE BEEN ON THE RECEIVG END OF SOME PRETTY VIC ACCATNS SCE STARTG THIS SE AND HAVE BEE A LTLE GUN SHY OF LATE. I WELE YOUR MENTS AND WILL READ THEM THE SPIR THEY ARE WRTEN OM NOW ON. I HOPE I HEAR OM YOU AGA.REPLY KELLY AUGT 6, 2021 AT 3:32 PM WHAT A LOAD OF STEAM’ CRAP MR. WARWICK. THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO SCIENCE TO BACK UP YOU CLAIM THAT FIFTY PERCENT OF THE POPULATN ARE BISEXUAL. THAT’S BOTH HILAR AND NONSENSIL AT THE SAME TIME.REPLY KTY JUNE 13, 2023 AT 8:07 AM YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP YOUR ASSERTNS THAT 50% ARE BISEXUAL. EVERYTHG YOU SAID ARE LIBERAL AND LEFTIST TALKG POTS.REPLY NICHOLAS STIX AUGT 11, 2017 AT 2:04 AM THANKS FOR YOUR RPONSE, ALAN. GARY COOPER? HE SURE GOT AROUND, MR. KISS-AND-TELL, THE HEEL.IN ANY EVENT, BARBARA STANWYCK HAS TO BE ON THE SHORT LIST OF THE GREATT HOLLYWOOD PERFORMERS TO NEVER W AN OSR. I SUPPOSE THE CLOST SHE ME WAS FOR DOUBLE INMNY 1944, WHEN INGRID BERGMAN WON FOR GASLIGHT.REPLY ALAN ROYLE AUGT 11, 2017 AT 11:28 AM I WATCH ‘DOUBLE INMNY TWO OR THREE TIM A YEAR. I LOVE THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE PICTURE AND ALL THREE PRCIPALS ARE FABULO. I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT MUCH OF ‘GASLIGHT’. BABS WUZ ROBBED.REPLY NICHOLAS STIX AUGT 9, 2017 AT 5:17 PM WHAT ABOUT FRANK CAPRA? STANWYCK AND CAPRA SUPPOSEDLY HAD A HOT AFFAIR DURG THE EARLY 30S, WHEN THEY WORKED TOGETHER ON THE BTER TEA OF GENERAL YEN.REPLY ALAN ROYLE AUGT 10, 2017 AT 5:57 PM Y, NICHOLAS, THAT’S TE. SHE HAD NUMERO AFFAIRS WH BOTH SEX. GARY COOPER WAS ANOTHER THAT TO MD.REPLY GARBO MAY 9, 2017 AT 10:26 PM RICHARD BURTON SAID “ALL ACTORS ARE BI-SEXUAL.”REPLY ALAN ROYLE MAY 10, 2017 AT 5:11 PM AN ODD THG FOR HIM TO SAY. HE OPENLY NFIRMED THAT HE EXPERIMENTED WH HOMOSEXUALY HIMSELF, BUT JT ONCE. HE DID NOT ENJOY , HE SAID, SO SURELY HE ULD NOT CLASS HIMSELF AS BISEXUAL.REPLY JOHN CURRAN APRIL 27, 2017 AT 12:25 AM MY UNCLE JACK BURKE WAS MICKEY REDSTONE’S ATTORNEY FOR 30YRS. HE LIGATED THE ERNMENT BREAKUP OF THE STUD-THEATRE MONOPOLY. THE JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI,……ETC. WHAT HE DID BEHD THE SCEN WAS SQUASH BLACKMAIL OF GAY PEDOPHIL, UNRWORLD GAMBLG BTS, ARRTS ON MORALS CHARG BY VICE PS AND ON AND MOTHER WAS HIS LEGAL SECRETARY. CONNIE H OF ‘MR ED’ WORKED HIS OFFICE FOR A WHILE BEFORE LEAVG FOR HOLLYWOOD. THE STUDS WERE AAID OF HOOVER AND THE NEW MEDIUM OF TV. WHEN MY GREAT UNCLE DIED 1974. MY MOTHER TOOK CTODY OF HIS FIL WH NO STCTNS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE MOTHER DIED 2008 AND I CURRENTLY POSSS THEM. THERE ARE 66 S OM MEDIATNS TO BAG JOBS. FRED OTASH BACKGROUND CHECKS AND PHOTOS ED QUE OFTEN FOR 6 YRS TO A FALLG MAYER’S LEASED SAFE HOE UNR AN ALIAS FOR AILG STARS AND FAI WHILE THEY DRIED OUT OR ELECTROSHOCKED TO CURE ‘HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILIA’ AT NEARBY ‘WTWOOD LODGE’ WHERE JUDY GARLAND WAS TREATED. MUCH IS D FOR OBV OF THE TROUBLED HIGH EARNERS WOULD BE BLACKMAILED BY STUD UNCLE NOTED THAT THIS ACTN ULD BACKFIRE .I ULDNT HELP THK OF TAYLOR TAKG LS MONEY FOR 24 YEARS!!!!! I AM REARCHG WHAT TO DO WH. ALL CLIENTS ARE CEASEDREPLY ALAN ROYLE APRIL 27, 2017 AT 12:51 PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOST TERTG MENT, JOHN. YOU APPEAR TO BE POSSSN OF DATA THAT WOULD MAKE FOR A FASCATG AND REVEALG BOOK SHOULD YOU CI TO E . I HOPE YOU DO. FEW OF GET THE OPPORTUNY TO ALTER HISTORY (OR AT LEAST THE WORLD’S PERCEPTN OF ), AND YOU SEEM TO BE A POSN TO DO SO. I TLY HOPE YOU DO AND I WISH YOU EVERY SUCCS. I FEEL CERTA THAT ANY MAJOR PUBLISHG HOE WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO UTILISE WHAT YOU HAVE AND PAY YOU HANDSOMELY FOR THE ONE PIECE OF ADVICE WOULD BE – TREAD REFULLY AND BE SURE TO AL WH SOMEONE YOU N GENUELY TST.REPLY ELVIS FEBARY 20, 2017 AT 11:38 PM VERY TERTG ARTICLE. I SAW BARBARA AT THE GOVERNORS BALL AFTER THE 1977 OSRS. SHE SAT AT A TABLE NEAR THE DANCE FLOOR, STARG ACROSS THE ROOM AT WILLIAM HOLN, WHOSE REER SHE SAVED WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO BE FIRED OM GOLN BOY. I WILL ALWAYS REGRET NOT WALKG OVER AND TALKG TO HER. I WAS 32 AND SHY.NO MATTER WHAT, SHE WAS A GREAT ACTRS AND A FASCATG PERSON.REPLY ALAN ROYLE FEBARY 21, 2017 AT 3:33 PM I ULD NOT AGREE MORE, ELVIS. I RATE ‘DOUBLE INMNY’ MY TOP 5 MOVI OF ALL TIME. SHE WAS WONRFUL (BLON WIG AND ALL).REPLY ALAN ROYLE FEBARY 21, 2017 AT 3:43 PM SHE WAS FABULO ‘DOUBLE INMNY’.REPLY WARREN PATTON AUGT 24, 2021 AT 2:48 AM SORRY IF MY QUTN APPEARS SO LATE AFTER YOUR POST ABOUT BARBARA STANWYCK. IT SUGGTS THAT SHE SAT ALONE, WHICH I WOULD FEEL IS TRAGIC. I WONR IF SHE EVER WAS TLY FORTABLE HER OWN SK OUTSI OF A MOVIE SET, ALTHOUGH VICTORIA WILSON CLAIMS SHE WAS GREAT PANY AND HAD MANY LOYAL IENDS. PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT HER LIFE ULTIMATELY WAS A TRIUMPH, BUT NO ONE ULD HAVE EMERGED OM THAT LIFE WHOUT TERRIBLE SRS. AND HER FAL YEARS, REPEATED TRAGEDI HNTED HER – HOLN’S ATH, THE HORRIFIC HOME BREAK-, THE HOE FIRE, ALL OF WHICH APPARENTLY TURNED HER TO A IGHTENED RECLE AT THE END. BT WISH.REPLY DEBORAH FIRRO JANUARY 14, 2022 AT 9:57 AM I THK THAT BARBARA AND WILLIAM HOLN WERE LOVE HE WAS TLY SHOCKED WHEN HE READ THAT SHE MARRIED ROBERT TAYLOR WAS 1939 AND THE STUD WANTED THEM MARRIED AND I THK SHE DID THAT TO SAVE ROBERT TAYLOR’S REER CUZ HE WAS A LOY ACTORREPLY LDA JUNE 26, 2016 AT 1:08 AM THANK YOU ALAN FOR YOUR NSIRED AND GRAC RPONS TO POSTS TO YOUR WEBSE. LDAREPLY ADM JUNE 26, 2016 AT 1:03 PM VERY KD OF YOU TO SAY SO, LDA. THANK YOU.REPLY RHONDA JUNE 6, 2016 AT 2:04 AM I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE MENTN OF HELEN FERGON LIVG WH STANWYCK WAS ORIGALLY MA BUT ’S NOT TE. AFTER THE DIVORCE OM TAYLOR, THE ONLY PERSON THAT LIVED WH HER WAS HER “UNCLE BUCK,” JAM MACK, WHO HAD KNOWN HER SCE HER DAYS AS A CHOS GIRL NYC. HE LIVED WH HER UNTIL HIS HEALTH TERRATED TO THE POT THAT HE HAD TO BE MOVED TO AN ASSISTED-LIVG TYPE PLACE. AFTER THAT, SHE ALWAYS LIVED ALONE; SHE DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A LIVE- MAID (SHE HAD A UPLE OF BAD EXPERIENC WH THEM AND DIDN’T TRY AGA). I’VE REARCHED STANWYCK EXTENSIVELY AND WOULD SAY THAT THE MOST RELIABLE ROURCE ON HER IS VICTORIA WILSON’S BGRAPHY. I ASSUME YOU GOT MOST OF YOUR RMATN OM AXEL MADSEN’S BGRAPHY; MOST OF THE STORI HAVE BEEN HEAVILY DISPUTED BY THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNEW STANWYCK. JT SO I DON’T E ACROSS AS A KNOW--ALL, I’VE GOTTEN MOST OF MY RMATN OM WILSON’S B AND OM A GOOD IEND OF LARRY KLENO, WHO WAS STANWYCK’S PUBLICIST AND CLOSE IEND FOR THE LATTER 25 YEARS OR SO OF HER LIFE.REPLY ADM JUNE 6, 2016 AT 4:22 AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TERTG VIEWS ON MISS STANWYCK, RHONDA. YOU MAY WELL BE RIGHT ABOUT MISS FERGON. I READ SO MANY PIEC AND BOOKS ON STANWYCK, IS QUE POSSIBLE I HAVE ERRED ON THE ISSUE OF FERGON LIVG WH HER. I HONTLY NNOT RELL THE ORIG(S) OF THAT DATA, BUT I EXPECT ME OM MORE THAN ONE. I GENERALLY SETTLE ON A MIMUM OF THREE SOURC BEFORE CIDG WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE TE OR NOT. THEN I MAKE MY ASSSMENTS. LIKE ALL HISTORIANS, HOWEVER, MISTAK ARE ALMOST EVABLE, SO IF I AM RRECT I TLY APOLOGISE. IT OCSNALLY OCCURS. OF URSE, YOU DO NOT ‘E ACROSS AS A KNOW--ALL’. I APPRECIATE AND RPECT YOUR PUT AND YOUR MENTS. THANKS AGA.REPLY KEN STANDG MAY 9, 2016 AT 2:48 AM IT SEEMS AN OPEN QUTN BUT I’VE E ACROSS THE MENT THAT, THEN, HOLLYWOOD, IF MOVED ….. LOTS OF EXPERIMENTATN AND SOUNDS AS THOUGH THEY ALL HAD AN TERTG TIME …….REPLY ALAN ROYLE MAY 9, 2016 AT 1:05 PM I THK IF YOU PUT HUNDREDS OF PHYSILLY BETIFUL MEN AND WOMEN TOGETHER, MANY OF THEM VOID OF A GREAT AL OF TELLIGENCE OR CHARACTER, PAY THEM MORE MONEY THAN THEY EVER DREAMT OF, SEND THEM OFF ON ANIZED DAT, HAVE THEM ATTEND BOOZE-LAN PARTI WHERE DGS ARE OFTEN AVAILABLE, AND THEN HAVE STUD ‘FIXERS’ CLEAN UP WHATEVER MS THEY GET THEMSELV TO, THEN OF URSE NDUCT ISSU WILL OCCUR. AND THEY DID. ADD TO THAT A GULLIBLE, ADORG PUBLIC READY TO SWALLOW WHATEVER BS THE STUDS THREW AT THEM, AND YOU HAVE THE FULLY-FLEDGED FANTASY WORLD KNOWN AS HOLLYWOOD. AND I AM NOT SAYG ALL ACTORS ARE STUPID OR WHOUT CHARACTER. FAR OM . A GREAT NUMBER OF THEM ARE MOST IMPRSIVE DIVIDUALS, BUT AN EQUAL NUMBER LIVE THE FANTASY TO THE BRIM AND DULGE THEMSELV WH LTLE RE ABOUT REPUTATNS OR NSEQUENC. AND THE ARE THE ON THAT MAKE THE HEADL. OF URSE, THE STUDS COULD HAVE KEPT THE DTRY CLEAN OM THE OUTSET BY EXPOSG AND REMOVG THE DIVIDUALS BUT, AS WE KNOW, THAT NEVER HAPPENED. WHY? BEE MANY OF THE WORST OFFENRS WERE MAKG A FORTUNE FOR THE MOVIE PANI AND PROVIDG SEXUAL FAVOURS TO BOOT.REPLY BARBARA MAY 5, 2016 AT 7:57 AM I DON’T BELIEVE TAYLOR WAS EVER GAY. I MEET HIM AS A CHILD. HE HAD A GOOD IEND N.M. AND MY FAY KNEW THEM WELL. I KNOW TAYLOR LOVED HORS AND THE FAY I’M TALKG ABOUT GAVE HIM A BLACK STALLN THAT HE RO HIS MOVIE BILLY THE KID. MY GRANDMOTHER KNEW MISS STANWYCK AND MET HER ON A TRA THE 30’S. MY GRANDMOTHER NAMED ME AFTER HER, AND THEY STAYED TOUCH FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE KEPT QUE THE WHOLE TIME, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT STANWYCK REALLY LOVED TAYLOR, AND I THK HER REER WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO HER THAN ANYTHG.REPLY ALAN ROYLE MAY 5, 2016 AT 1:45 PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR RPONSE. YOU MAY VERY WELL BE RIGHT. MY REARCH HAS UNVERED A GREAT MANY SOURC THAT WOULD DISAGREE WH YOU ON THIS, BUT THAT DO NOT NECSARILY MAKE THEM RIGHT. AS WH MOST ISSU HISTORY WE N ONLY VTIGATE AS REFULLY AS POSSIBLE, THEN FORMULATE AN OPN BASED ON AN ASSSMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE FOUND. HISTORY IS AT BT TED GUSWORK BASED ON PIECEMEAL RMATN. UNFORTUNATELY, THE STUDS LIED SO NSISTENTLY ABOUT MOST OF THEIR STARS THAT WE TEND TO THK EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS UNTE. TAYLOR AND STANWYCK MAY WELL BE VICTIMS OF THIS. THANK YOU AGA FOR YOUR TERTG MENT.REPLY LDA ALEXANR SEPTEMBER 10, 2015 AT 7:38 AM I NNOT SAY FOR CERTA WHETHER OR NOT BARBARA STANWYCK WAS BI-SEXUAL BUT I N TELL YOU THAT SHE & BOB TAYLOR NSUMMATED THEIR MARRIAGE, & THEN SOME. I N ALSO TELL YOU THAT HE WAS NOT GAY … AFTER TERVIEWS W/HARRY HAY, URSULA THIS (HIS 2ND WIFE), LIA DILEO (THE VERY PUBLIC AFFAIR WHICH FALLY BROKE UP HIS MARRIAGE TO BARBARA STANWYCK) & MANY OTHERS, I’VE NO DOUBT THE FOLKS KNEW THE TTH MORE THAN ANY WHISPERS OM HERE-&-THERE. READ: “RELUCTANT WNS: ROBERT TAYLOR, HOLLYWOOD, & COMMUNISM” TO BE RE-PUBLISHED NEXT YEAR (2016), BY LDA ALEXANR.REPLY ALAN ROYLE SEPTEMBER 10, 2015 AT 10:23 AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR RMED MENTS, LDA. ACTUALLY, I NEVER SAID TAYLOR WAS GAY. LIKE MANY HOLLYWOOD STARS OF BOTH GENRS HE APPEARED TO BE BISEXUAL. MAYER SISTED ON HE AND BARBARA MARRYG, SIMPLY TO WARD OFF THE MOURS ABOUT BOTH OF THEM. ALTHOUGH MANY HOLLYWOOD SIRS CLAIMED THAT BARBARA WAS A ‘CLOSETED LBIAN’, I BELIEVE SHE WAS BISEXUAL AS WELL. THERE WAS CERTALY AFFECTN BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, AND SHE WAS EPLY HURT BY THE ITALIAN AFFAIR THAT END THEIR MARRIAGE.REPLY S. ALLEN JULY 6, 2015 AT 4:26 PM IN ADDN TO MY PREV MENT ABOUT STANWYCK, I REFER TO MS. LREN BALL ON HER PRIVATE LIFE VS HER PUBLIC LIFE. ‘WHAT I DO MY PRIVATE LIFE IS MY BS, WHAT I DO MY PUBLIC LIFE IS ANYONE’S BS.’ SHE WAS FIRM THIS WHEN RPONDG TO C. ROSE’S QUTNS ABOUT FRANK SATRA. THIS DISCSN HAD TO DO W/ THE MEDIA BEG THE BEDROOMS OF PRINTS, AND OTHERS.REPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 6, 2015 AT 7:19 PM WELL, THERE ARE ARGUMENTS BOTH WAYS, I GUS. PEOPLE THE PUBLIC EYE ARE GENERALLY NSIRED TO BE PUBLIC PROPERTY. THE PRICE OF FAME. AS FOR THE MEDIA BEG THE BEDROOMS OF PRINTS, WELL, MY PERSONAL OPN IS THAT MOST PRINTS (AND POLICIANS) TELL LI WHENEVER SUS THEM. THEY TREAT WH DISDA AND THAT MAK THEM FAIR GAME MY BOOK. NO DOUBT YOU DISAGREE WHICH IS, OF URSE, YOUR PREROGATIVE.REPLY S. ALLEN JULY 6, 2015 AT 4:05 PM I READ THAT TAYLOR WAS STANWYCK’S ONE TE LOVE, AND IF I’M RRECT, SHE VISED HIM WHEN HE WAS CLOSE TO ATH? WHATEVER STANWYCK WAS, SHE WAS ONE HELL OF AN ACTRS, AND KNEW ALL ABOUT PROPER LIGHTG I.E. TECHNIL STUFF.REPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 6, 2015 AT 7:14 PM I AM A HUGE STANWYCK FAN. I THK I WATCH ‘DOUBLE INMNY’ ABOUT 10 TIM A YEAR! I DO THK THAT SHE AND TAYLOR BEME GREAT IENDS THE END, BUT I ALSO THK HER TE LOV WERE WOMEN, NOT MEN, PARTICULAR CRAWFORD AND HER PUBLICIST HELEN FERGON.REPLYLEAVE A REPLY CANCEL REPLYYOUR EMAIL ADDRS WILL NOT BE PUBLISHED.COMMENTNAME *EMAIL *WEBSESAVE MY NAME, EMAIL, AND WEBSE THIS BROWSER FOR THE NEXT TIME I MENT. IF A NEW COMMENT IS POSTED:DO NOT SEND EMAIL NOTIFITNS.SEND EMAIL NOTIFITN ONLY IF SOMEONE REPLI TO MY COMMENT(S).SEND EMAIL NOTIFITN WHENEVER A NEW COMMENT IS POSTED.ΔTHIS SE AKISMET TO RCE SPAM. LEARN HOW YOUR MENT DATA IS PROCSED.LOOKG FOR SOMETHG? 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BARBARA STANWYCK: HOLLYWOOD LEGEND, GAY IN, AND TOUGH-AS-NAILS SUPERSTAR

And even if she weren't a lbian, her brassy and butch nature, both onscreen and off, garnered her a loyal followg om lbians and gays, for today's Today Gay History, we celebrate Stanwyck's July 16, 1907 birth wh seven bs of trivia that, when taken together, pat a pretty good picture of Stanwyck's life, reer, and legacy. Durg the late-1920s, Brooklyn-native Stanwyck tght dance at a gay and lbian speakeasy owned by Texas Guan, a butch imprar scribed as a lbian.

STANWYCK & TAYLOR – A LAVENR MARRIAGE? JULY 6, 2015 ADM DID YOU KNOW? 45 WHEN ME TO QUTNS ABOUT HER SEXUALY, BARBARA STANWYCK WAS THE OLD STUD DAYS’ EQUIVALENT OF TODAY’S TOM CISE. ANY MENTN OF HER SEXUAL PREFERENC WOULD IMMEDIATELY BRG FORTH VEILED THREATS OF LIGATN SHOULD THE SUBJECT BE PURSUED. CISE DO THE SAME THG TODAY. MENTN HIS NAME NNECTN WH HOMOSEXUALY OR BISEXUALY AND HE WILL THREATEN TO SUE. I RECENTLY READ A BOOK WHICH HE WAS NTUALLY REFERRED TO AS ‘THE HETEROSEXUAL TOM CISE’ THROUGHOUT, PERHAPS A HUNDRED TIM. THE SARSM WAS OBV BUT, APPARENTLY, THE WRERS FELT NECSARY JT TO KEEP ON THE SAFE SI.STANWYCK & WEBB  TANIC (1953)THERE IS ENOUGH EVINCE ABOUT MISS STANWYCK TO BE ABLE TO STATE WH SOME CERTATY THAT SHE WAS EHER A LBIAN OR BISEXUAL. OF URSE, THAT DO NOT MAKE HER ANY WAY UNIQUE HOLLYWOOD. FAR OM . ACTOR CLIFTON WEBB SCRIBED HER AS, ‘MY FAVOURE HOLLYWOOD LBIAN’. HER HBAND, ROBERT TAYLOR, TOLD SHELLEY WTERS OVER DNER THAT BARBARA WAS A LBIAN AND THAT THEY HAD SEPARATE BEDS. THEIRS WAS JT ONE OF DOZENS OF ‘LAVENR’ MARRIAG THE MOVIE MUNY. BARBARA’S OWN BGRAPHER, AXEL MADSEN, WROTE THAT ‘PEOPLE WOULD SWEAR THAT SHE WAS HOLLYWOOD’S BIGGT CLOSETED LBIAN’.LOOKG BACK, IS PERFECTLY UNRSTANDABLE WHY THE ‘MARRIAG OF NVENIENCE’ WERE NECSARY. HOMOSEXUALY, BISEXUALY AND LBIANISM WERE ILLEGAL EVERY STATE OF THE UNN. ANYONE PUBLICLY INTIFIED AS GAY WOULD NOT ONLY LOSE THEIR REER, BUT N THE REAL RISK OF SPENDG TIME THE ‘SLAMMER, MAKG LTLE ROCKS OUT OF BIG ON. IT WAS A MOST SER ISSUE. LIKE MANY LBIANS, STANWYCK WAS NOT AVERSE TO EXPERIMENTG WH THE OPPOSE SEX OM TIME TO TIME, PECIALLY A MUNY HABED BY SO MANY ‘BETIFUL PEOPLE’ OF BOTH SEX. SHE AND TAYLOR PROBABLY NSUMMATED THEIR RELATNSHIP ON OCSN, BUT NEHER HAD MUCH TERT THE OPPOSE SEX. HAVG SAID THAT, AFTER THEIR DIVORCE 1952 SHE EMBARKED ON A FOUR YEAR AFFAIR WH THE MUCH YOUNGER ROBERT WAGNER, BEGNG WHEN THEY APPEARED TOGETHER  TANIC.WAGNER & STANWYCK  TANICSTANWYCK WAS BORN RUBY STEVENS BROOKLYN, NEW YORK CY, 1907. HER MOTHER DIED WHEN SHE WAS FOUR, AND HER FATHER TOOK OFF TO HELP BUILD THE PANAMA CANAL AND WAS NEVER SEEN AGA. HE MAY HAVE SIMPLY ‘SHOT THROUGH’, OR HE MAY HAVE BEE ONE OF THE THOANDS OF YELLOW FEVER SUALTI ON THE PROJECT. OF THE 26,000 WORKERS ON THE NAL 21,000 WERE HOSPALIZED FOR EHER YELLOW FEVER OR MALARIA. WE WILL NEVER KNOW. RUBY AND HER BROTHERS AND SISTERS WERE FOSTERED OUT SEVERAL TIM. SHE LEFT SCHOOL AT 14, GAED WORK AS A DANCE STCTOR AT TEXAS GUAN’S LBIAN SPEAK-EASY, WHERE SHE MET JOAN CRAWFORD AND TALLULAH BANKHEAD WHO WERE REGULARS. BANKHEAD SAID SHE SLEPT WH STANWYCK THE 20’S. CRAWFORD, GARBO AND DIETRICH WERE ALSO LOVERS SHARED BY BANKHEAD AND STANWYCK.IN 1928 BARBARA MARRIED VVILLIAN FRANK FAY. THEY LEFT FOR HOLLYWOOD TO TRY THEIR LUCK. WHENEVER HE BEAT HER UP, WHICH WAS OFTEN, SHE FOUND SOLACE THE ARMS OF CRAWFORD. WHEN EDDIE MANNIX REFERRED TO BARBARA AS FAY’S ‘DYKE WIFE’ ONE NIGHT AT THE BROWN DERBY, A FISTFIGHT ENSUED AND MANNIX PUNCHED FAY OUT.FRANK & BARBARA FAYTHEY ADOPTED A SON 1932, BARBARA LOST TERT HIM ALMOST AT ONCE, AND THEY REMAED TRANGED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIV. ‘SOME KIDS ARE BORN WH BAD BLOOD’, SHE SAID BY WAY OF EXPLANATN. ‘JT LIKE HORS. WHEN A PARENT HAS DONE EVERYTHG POSSIBLE, THE ONLY SOLUTN IS TO SAVE YOURSELF.’ IN TTH, HER REER WAS ALL SHE RED ABOUT. WHEN A DNKEN FAY THREW THE TODDLER THEIR POOL DURG AN ARGUMENT, BARBARA CID WAS TIME TO JETTISON HER FAY. SHE DIVORCED HIM 1935.BARBARA & JOAN CRAWFORDROBERT TAYLOR WAS AN ONLY CHILD, BORN SPANGLER ARLGTON BGH, 1911 NEBRASKA. HE WAS A DDLED, SPELS MAMA’S BOY. WHEN HIS MIC TEACHER, HUBERT GRAY, LEFT FOR HOLLYWOOD HE WAS NSOLABLE, TELLG IENDS ‘HIS WORLD FELL APART’. HE SOON FOLLOWED, MOVG WH GRAY. BEFORE LONG, TAYLOR’S MOTHER MOVED WH BOTH OF THEM.ROBERT TAYLOR CIR 1932JOG THE PASANA PLAYHOE REPERTORY COMPANY, HE SOON BEME A ‘FAVOURE OF NOTORLY GAY DIRECTOR GILMOR BROWN. EVERY YEAR BROWN CHOSE A ‘PROTéGé’. THAT YEAR WAS TAYLOR. A YEAR LATER WOULD BE TYRONE POWER. EVERYBODY THE PANY KNEW THAT ‘PROTEGE’ MEANT PRIVATE ‘REHEARSALS’ OVERNIGHT STAYS AT THE DIRECTOR’S HOME.GILMOR BROWNTHROUGHOUT HIS LONG REER AT MGM, TAYLOR TSTED LB MAYER IMPLICLY. CONSEQUENTLY, MAYER TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT TST, AND BOB REMAED THE LOWT PAID OF ALL THE STUD’S MAJOR STARS. HE ALWAYS FELT FORTUNATE TO BE ON THEIR BOOKS, HOWEVER. HENCE, HE REMAED WH MGM UNTIL THE MISE OF THE STUD SYSTEM THE LATE FIFTI, A RERD 24 YEARS ALL. HE HAD ONLY GOOD THGS TO SAY ABOUT HIS BOSS.STANWYCK SIGNED NON-EXCLIVE NTRACTS WH BOTH COLUMBIA AND WARNER BROS, AND EELANCED WH MGM. WHEN MOURS ABOUT BARBARA’S AND ROBERT TAYLOR’S SEXUALY BEME RIFE, MGM HEADS VIRTUALLY ORRED THEM TO MARRY BEFORE THEIR REERS WERE PERMANENTLY TORPEDOED. TAYLOR RELUCTANTLY AGREED BEE HE WAS AAID OF LOSG HIS REER. STANWYCK AGREED BEE SHE KNEW NOT TO CROSS LB MAYER. HE ULD BE EXTREMELY VDICTIVE.JT MARRIEDTHEY MARRIED ON MAY 13, 1939 SAN DIEGO. TAYLOR CLED TO KISS HIS BRI FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHERS. HE WENT HOME TO HIS MOTHER’S THAT NIGHT. SHE HAD TO BE SEDATED WHEN SHE LEARNED HE WAS NO LONGER SGLE. BARBARA WENT BACK TO HER RANCH. THEY WERE RARELY TOGETHER. TAYLOR SPENT HIS WEEKENDS WH HIS GAY PILOT CHUM FLYG PLAN. WHEN THEY WERE TOGETHER BARBARA LLED THE SHOTS. TAYLOR WAS JT TOO TIMID. SHE BULLIED HIM ONT OF HIS FAY AND IENDS. ONE EVENG HE WAS DRKG WH JOHN WAYNE AND OTHERS, WHEN SHE ME DOWN THE STAIRS AND SAID: ‘SEND YOUR IENDS HOME. IT’S TIME FOR BED.’ HE MEEKLY PLIED. EVEN SO, SHE HAD FEELGS FOR HIM, WHICH EXPLAS WHY THEY REMAED TOGETHER FOR 13 YEARS.TURNER & TAYLOR  JOHNNY EAGERIN 1941, HE MA JOHNNY EAGER OPPOSE MAN-EATER LANA TURNER, WHO WAS AT THE PEAK OF HER BETY. SHE WENT AFTER HIM WH A VENGEANCE. MOST HISTORIANS (AND BARBARA) BELIEVED SHE GOT HIM TO THE SACK. SURPRISGLY, BARBARA SLASHED HER WRISTS OVER THE AFFAIR. MGM TOLD THE PRS SHE WAS ATTEMPTG TO OPEN A STUCK WDOW AND SHATTERED, CUTTG HER ARMS. THE UPLE WERE RARELY (IF EVER) TIMATE, BUT THEY DID GROW CLOSER TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS.JOAN & BARBARABARBARA’S PUBLICIST, HELEN FERGON, LIVED WH HER FOR 27 YEARS, BEG PAID JT $400 A MONTH. THE AMOUNT NEVER VARIED ALL THAT TIME. THEY BOTH SWORE LIKE TROOPERS, TOLD SIAR RISQUé, FOUL JOK, BUT NOBODY KNOWS FOR CERTA IF THEY WERE TIMATE. BARBARA, A CHA-SMOKER, DIED 1990 OM EMPHYSEMA. NO FUNERAL, NO GRAVE, AS PER HER STCTNS. TAYLOR WAS ALSO A CHA-SMOKER. LUNG NCER CLAIMED HIM AT 57 1969.BARBARA STANWYCKCLIFTON WEBBANK FAYGILMOR BROWNHELEN FERGONJOAN CRAWFORDJOHNNY EAGERLANA TURNERROBERT TAYLORROBERT WAGNERTALLULAH BANKHEADTEXAS GUANTANIC PREVTHELMA TODD’S ATH – MAYBE MURR AFTER ALL? NEXTDEAN MART – FUNNY AND NICE. 45 COMMENTS TIBO OCTOBER 8, 2022 AT 8:57 AM SEEMS THE MEN THAT SCREWED BARBARA OVER OR WAS SCREWG SOMEONE ELSE OVER FOR HER, MET TRAGIC ENDS.. THAT’LL TEACH YA BUMS! ?REPLY MIKE OM JERSEY JUNE 18, 2022 AT 11:52 AM JOHN CURRAN WROTE –THE JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVIDO YOU MEAN TO SAY THE “SUPPOSED JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI BY RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOONS”OR IS WHAT YOU WROTE WHAT YOU BELIEVE? IT’S UNCLEAR.REPLY MIKE OM JERSEY JUNE 18, 2022 AT 11:57 AM I ULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER MYSELF WHEN I WROTE – “SUPPOSED“SUPPOSED JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI BY RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOONS” RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOONS” WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, IS YOUR POSN THAT THERE WAS “JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI”WHICH POSN WOULD MEAN YOU ARE A RIGHT WG ANTI JEWISH LOON. HOPEFULLY THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU MEANT.REPLY MIKE OM JERSEY JUNE 18, 2022 AT 12:03 PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ABOVE, TOO BAD ONE N’T GO BACK AND ED. I AM ALG WH TARACTS AND ’S A PROBLEM TO SEE. THE “JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF HOLLYWOOD” LE IS OFFENSIVE. I WAS WONRG IF MR. CURRAN MEANT TO AGREE WH THAT IA OR WAS CG .REPLY PIETRA AUGT 25, 2020 AT 4:22 AM I SUGGT YOU READ BARBARA STANWYCK: TE STEEL BY VICTORIA WILSON WHICH PLETELY BUNKS THE STANWYCK-TAYLOR MARRIAGE AS BEG FAKE. FAR OM . IF THE HEAD OF THE MATTACHE SOCIETY, HARRY HAY, SAID ROBERT TAYLOR WASN’T GAY OR BISEXUAL – HE WASN’T. AND WHAT A NERVE STATG THAT “I NEVER SAID HE WAS GAY” AFTER TELLG THAT RIDICULO STORY ABOUT THE PASANA PLAYHOE.THERE’S A GREAT STORY THE BOOK ABOUT TAYLOR AND STANWYCK G HOME AFTER AN ANNIVERSARY DNER. SHE WENT UPSTAIRS, HAVG NO IA HE HAD A SURPRISE PARTY PLANNED AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE. SHE APPEARED AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, NU, AND SAID, “OKAY, BUDDY, E AND GET .” HER BIGGT HEARTBREAK WAS THE LOSS OF HIS LETTERS A FIRE. I N ATTT TO THIS BEE I READ SEVERAL LETTERS SHE WROTE TALKG ABOUT . ALSO TAYLOR HAD AN AFFAIR WH LANA TURNER DURG JOHNNY EAGER. TURNER SAID SHE AND BARBARA WERE ONCE STAYG THE SAME HOTEL AND TURNER LLED HER. BARBARA WOULDN’T SPEAK TO HER AND NEVER SPOKE TO HER AGA. WHEN SHE FOUND OUT HE WAS CHEATG ON HER ROME, WAS THE LAST STRAW, AND THEY DIVORCED.I DON’T UNRSTAND SPREADG THE STUPID MORS ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DIDN’T KNOW, BASED ON BAD REARCH, WHEN VICTORIA WILSON TERVIEWED DOZENS UPON DOZENS, GOG BACK TO HER CHILDHOOD. NOW, THIS IS NOT TO SAY BARBARA WAS NOT BISEXUAL. BUT TO STATE HER MARRIAGE TO TAYLOR WAS A LAVENR ONE IS RRECT. JT BEE THEY’RE BOTH AD, THAT DON’T MAKE TELLG UNTTHS RIGHT. ALSO, NO ONE MA BARBARA GET MARRIED. TAYLOR WAS ENGAGED TO SOMEONE, WHICH THE STUD WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT, AND BROKE OFF WHEN HE MET BARBARA.ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY DIDN’T HAVE CHILDREN, BARBARA HAD A BOTCHED ABORTN AT A VERY YOUNG AGE.REPLY ALAN ROYLE AUGT 25, 2020 AT 9:39 AM THANKYOU FOR YOUR RMATIVE MENTS, PIETRA. NO DOUBT, YOU KNOW FAR MORE ABOUT THEIR MARRIAGE THAN I, AND I BOW TO YOUR BALANCED AND LOGIL ASSSMENT. I ASKED THE QUTN ABOUT THEIR UNN BEG ‘LAVENDAR’, SIMPLY BEE NUMERO SOURC HAVE CLAIMED WAS. UNFORTUNATELY, HOLLYWOOD HISTORY IS RIDDLED WH FALSIFITNS AND STATEMENTS MA BY DIVIDUALS WH HIDN (SOME NOT SO HIDN) AGENDAS, AND IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ARRIVE AT ANY LEVEL OF ABSOLUTE CERTATY. PERSONALLY, I THK BARBARA WAS ED BI-SEXUAL, BUT HER ADORATN FOR HER HBAND SEEMS UNNIABLE. BOB TAYLOR’S RERD OF FEMALE LOVERS WOULD SURELY DITE HE WAS HETEROSEXUAL, ALTHOUGH WAS NOT UNMON FOR STRAIGHT MEN TO DULGE ACTS NTRARY TO THEIR NATURE ORR TO ADVANCE UP THE HOLLYWOOD TOTEM POLE. CLTTE COLBERT ONCE SAID THAT THE ONLY WOMAN SHE KNEW THE MOVIE BS WHO DID NOT E THE ‘STG UCH’ TO GET AHEAD WAS BETTE DAVIS. AND THAT CLUD HERSELF. ONE WONRS HOW MANY STRAIGHT MEN REACHED THE TOP VIA THE SAME ROUTE OF EXPEDIENCY. THE ARTICL I WRE ARE SIMPLY MY PALTRY ATTEMPTS TO UNRAVEL THE MANY MYSTERI OF THE BS. IF I ERR (AND NO DOUBT I DO OM TIME TO TIME), I APOLOGISE UNRERVEDLY. THANKYOU AGA FOR YOUR NDID RPONS, PIETRA.REPLY MARGARET ORTIZ AUGT 7, 2021 AT 1:46 PM WELL WRTEN PEOPLE POUR OVER STORI OF THEIR CELEBRI AND LOVE TO SMEAR THEM ANY WAY THAT WILL SEEM SENSATNAL…OH WELL NNOT WORRY ABOUT THEM NOW BUT LOVED HER ACTG AND ALL MOVI AND THE END THE BIG VALLEY SERI…REPLY DENISE JULY 17, 2023 AT 5:03 PM I SERLY DON’T BELIEVE THE GREAT BARBARA STANWYCK WAS BISEXUAL OR A LBIAN! SHE WAS A MASTER ACTRS WH GREAT TASTE GEO MEN LIKE TAYLOR! IF SHE LIVED WH FERGON, SO WHAT! THAT DON’T MEAN THEY WERE GAY! RIDICULO! THEY WERE AR IENDS, PERD!!REPLY JAM ZEMBOY APRIL 6, 2019 AT 2:58 AM WHAT I THK IS MOST TERTG ABOUT BARBARA STANWYCK AND ROBERT TAYLOR IS THAT SHE WAS, DISPUTABLY, A STUPENDO ACTRS (AND UNFORTUNATELY NEVER THE WNER OF “BT ACTRS” SCE THERE ALWAYS SEEMED TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WAS A TEENY B BETTER! I HAVE A PROBLEM WH THOSE AWARDS FOR THAT REASON–AND FOR SCHOOL AWARDS TOO. THERE SHOULD BE “SEVERAL” WNERS OF “BT ACTOR” OR “BT FRENCH STUNT”–ALL SHARG THE GLORY, NOT JT ONE.) BUT BACK TO STANWYCK AND TAYLOR, ROBERT TAYLOR WAS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE MOST MEDCRE ACTORS WHO EVER LIVED–AND HE KNEW , AND THAT WAS WHY HE WAS HAPPY WH NEVER A SALARY CREASE. HIS ONLY ASSET WAS HIS BETY, AND HE KNEW , AND HE WAS GLAD TO BE KEPT ON BOARD BEE OF . WHEN THE STUD PAIRED HIM WH GRETA GARBO CALE, NOBODY ULD KEEP SILENT ABOUT HIS LOY ACTG PARED WH HERS. BUT AMERIN WOMEN WERE NUTS ABOUT HIM, SO WAS GOOD FOR THE STUD TO HAVE HIM AROUND.I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BAD STANWYCK PERFORMANCE, NOR A GOOD TAYLOR ONE. IF WAS FACT A “LAVENR MARRIAGE,” I’M NOT SURPRISED. HE DID HAVE A SICKENG MOTHER WHO FLIPPED OUT WHEN HE GOT MARRIED, BUT THERE WERE LOTS OF MOTHERS LIKE THAT THOSE DAYS–AND THEY GOT AWAY WH BEE THEY WERE “MOTHERS.” A WOMAN WHO WAS TERRIFIED THAT HER SON WAS GETTG MARRIED EARNED SYMPATHY OM LNS OF OTHER AMERIN MOTHERS STEAD OF THE NMNATN THEY WOULD RECEIVE TODAY. SO HE HAD ONE OF “THOSE” MOTHERS. AND LET’S NOT FET THAT HE FOLLOWED HIS CELLO TEACHER TO CALIFORNIA–SPE NOT BEG A MAJOR MIL GENI OR A SERLY VOTED CELLIST HIMSELF–AND ACTUALLY MPED WH HIM, ALONG WH HIS MAMA.I THK PROBABLY HE WAS GAY AND WAS KEPT SECRET FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS–ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, PERVERTED–PENDG ON WHETHER YOU WERE TALKG ABOUT LAW, RELIGN OR SCIENCE–SO IF HE WAS GAY AND KEPT A SECRET, HE HAD A RIGHT TO. IT WOULD BE STUPID AND SELF-STCTIVE TO “E OUT” AS GAY BEFORE ABOUT 1980 (NO, MAKE THAT 2000).THE STUD DID TRY TO PRENT HIM AS A “REAL MAN” (WHICH, THE LOW-CLASS AMERIN MD, IS A GUY WHO SOLV PROBLEMS WH OTHER PEOPLE BY G HIS FISTS– “A YANK AT OXFORD”–A LOY MOVIE THAT ASSURED PEOPLE THAT A HAIRY CHT PROV A MAN’S HETEROSEXUALY. IT WAS A MAJOR FARCE. AND TAYLOR HIMSELF ONCE “PROVED” HIS HETEROSEXUALY BY EXHIBG THE HAIR ON HIS CHT TO SOMEBODY WHO ASKED IF HE WAS “QUEER.”BUT ALL THAT ASI AND, THE END, THERE WAS NO WAY TO PARE THE TWO OF THEM ACTG. SHE WAS MAGNIFICENT OM THE BEGNG OF HER REER TO THE END; HE WAS NEVER ANYTHG BUT A PRETTY FACE. WHEN THE FACE GOT SLIGHTLY MATURE, THEY SHIFTED HIM TO WBOY ROL.I HAVE WATCHED DOUBLE INMNY AND SORRY WRONG NUMBER AND THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS A HUNDRED TIM EACH AND I N’T FD A SGLE SYLLABLE OR FACIAL EXPRSN OF STANWYCK’S THAT ISN’T PERFECT. I DON’T RE ABOUT HER SEXUALY. I N WALLOW HER ACTG TILL THE DAY I DIE.REPLY ALAN ROYLE APRIL 7, 2019 AT 1:51 AM WE ARE PLETE AGREEMENT, JAM. I THK BARBARA WAS WONRFUL AND I CLASS TAYLOR THE SAME GROUP AS AN ACTOR AS MEL GIBSON. SPUD ORDARY. AND LIKE YOU, I HAVE NO TERT THE SEXUALY OF EHER. THANKYOU FOR YOUR MOST RMATIVE AND BALANCED MENTS.REPLY KELLY AUGT 6, 2021 AT 3:30 PM WH ALL DUE RPECT JAM, WHILE STANWYCK WAS ED A GREAT ACTRS — ONE OF THE BT — SHE HAD A BAD HAB OF SHG HER L DURG ARGUMENTATIVE MOMENTS, ALMOST TO THE POT OF STUMBLG OVER THEM — AND MA THEM FAR MORE MELODRAMATIC THAN THEY SHOULD BE.SHE ALSO HAD THIS ODD HAB OF ADDG “OH GAAWWD!” TO SOME OF HER DIALOGUE, WHICH CREPT TO HER PUBLIC SPEECH AS WELL.HAVG SAID THAT, SHE WAS ED GREAT THE MOVI YOU MENTNED, AND WAS SO SKILLED THAT SHE WAS ONE OF A VERY FEW WHO ULD NOT ONLY CRY GENUE TEARS ON CUE, BUT ULD GIVE YOU ONE TEAR OR TWO, PENDG ON WHAT WAS NEED.AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE HER ACTN, CHECK OUT THE SEQUENCE ‘FORTY GUNS’ WHERE SHE’S THROWN OFF A HORSE AND DRAGGED. HER STUNT WOMAN REFED TO DO , SO STANWYCK DID HERSELF. AND YOU N SEE THAT ED, ’S HER, DURG THE 20-30 SEND SEQUENCE.AS FOR ROBERT TAYLOR, SPE HIS BETY — PECIALLY PRE-1940 — HE WAS FELY PRETTIER THAN STANWYCK, THERE’S NEVER BEEN ANY FIRE THE MIDST OF ALL THE SO-LLED SMOKE. STILL, FARLEY GRANGER TOLD THE FOLLOWG STORY TERVIEWS AND HIS TOBGRAPHY:“I HAD JT RETURNED OM WORKG EUROPE, AND I WASN’T UP ON THE LATT,” HE SAYS. AFTER HE ASKED STANWYCK HOW HER HBAND, BISEXUAL ACTOR ROBERT TAYLOR, WAS DOG, GRANGER SAYS, “SHE JT STARED AT ME VERY LDLY AND SAID, ‘YOU MEAN MR. TAYLOR? HE’S LEFT ME. FOR A WOMAN!’”HE ALSO CHA-SMOKED MORE VIGOROLY THAN BETTE DAVIS — SO MUCH SO THAT HE LOOKED 10 YEARS OLR THAN HIS AGE BY 1950, AND ABOUT 20 YEARS OLR THAN HIS AGE WHEN HE DIED AT ONLY 57 YEARS OLD. AND HE ALSO DRANK. PEOPLE TURN TO ADDICTNS LIKE THAT FOR A REASON, AND WHO KNOWS…MAYBE LIVG A LIE WAS ONE OF THEM?REPLY MARGARET ORTIZ AUGT 7, 2021 AT 1:47 PM TOO BAD HE IS NOT ALIVE TO DISPUTE ANY TRASH WRTEN ABOUT HIM…REPLY K M WARWICK JULY 19, 2018 AT 7:11 PM I WILL MAKE SOME ASSERTNS HERE: OK THE REALY IS THAT CIR 50% OF ALL MEN AND WOMEN ARE BASIC BISEXUALS. THE REMAG 50% IS ROUGHLY SPL BETWEEN BEG EXCLIVELY HETEROSEXUAL OR EXCLIVELY HOMOSEXUAL. THIS TI NEATLY WH KNOWN FACTS (FACTS!) ABOUT THE ANIMAL KGDOM’S SEXUAL PROCLIVI. IN OTHER WORDS, HOMOSEXUALY AND BISEXUALY ARE PERFECTLY NORMAL MANIFTNS OF SEXUALY EVINT ACROSS THE HUMAN AND ANIMAL KGDOMS. IT IS THEN NOT UNREASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT EVINCE SUGGTS THAT NON-BREEDG ANIMALS AND KGDOM ARE ALL A NORMAL PART OF LIFE AND EVEN BIRTH NTROL. BUT, RELIGN, PHILOSOPHY, THE LAW AND ANISATNS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE A REAL ISSUE WH BEG BISEXUAL OR GAY. HOWEVER, WE MT NCLU THAT THIS FLI THE FACE OF FACTO EVINCE THAT HOMOSEXUALY IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ABNORMAL, AND THAT SOCIETY MT ALLOW PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO BE DIFFERENT WH A WORLD OF PREJUDICE, PERSECUTN, PROECUTN AND CEL DISCRIMATN. HUMAN RIGHTS MT TMP THE IGNORANCE AND TOLLERANC OF THE HUMAN JUDG. THANKS FOR READG THIS.REPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 20, 2018 AT 1:42 AM THANKYOU FOR THAT LSON ON SEXUALY, KEH. I NNOT TELL IF YOU ARE HAVG A DIG AT ME FOR WRG THE ARTICLE ON STANWYCK & TAYLOR OR MERELY ENLIGHTENG ME. IN THE PAST I HAVE BEEN LABELLED HOMOPHOBIC BY REARS WHO LIGHT PNG LABELS ON WRERS THE MOMENT THEY PEN SOMETHG ABOUT SOMEONE’S SEXUALY. IF I WRE A PIECE ABOUT GAY ACTORS I DO SO BEE THEIR SEXUALY IS OF TERT TO A PROPORTN OF REARS AND BEE I ENJOY SETTG THE RERD STRAIGHT, GIVEN THE S OF LI TOLD BY THE STUDS ABOUT THEIR STARS. PERSONALLY, I HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF TERT IF SOMEONE IS GAY OR NOT, RIGHT-HAND OR LEFT-HAND, REDHEAD OR BLON, JEW OR GENTILE. MY ONLY TERT (AS A HISTORIAN) IS GETTG THE FACTS RIGHT, AND IF THAT MAK ME HOMOPHOBIC THE EY OF SOME REARS, WELL, SO BE .REPLY K M WARWICK JULY 20, 2018 AT 2:30 AM HI ALANWELL, HONTLY, NO, I WAS NOT AT ALL ADDRSG THE POST TO YOU PERSONALLY – NOT AT ALL. IT WAS ADDRSED TO YOUR REARS – OR THE FOLK OUT THERE. I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE IMPRSN THAT YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE! WE BOTH KNOW STANWYCK LIVED AN ERA OF EXTREME HOMOPHOBIC ETHOS; EVEN TODAY REMNANTS OF THIS MIASMA OF PREJUDICE STILL PERSISTS – SADLY. AS A HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST, AND AN HISTORIL NOVELIST, I TAKE A SPECIAL TERT THE NTEXTUAL NUANC AND MORAL DG THAT THE PAST STILL REGAL THE PRENT WH; THE SOCIAL HERANCE AND GENERATNAL IDMS, IOLOGY AND ALL THAT. AND THE NSEQUENT NTRIBUTN OF SCIENTIFIC FACT AND DISVERY THAT RMS OUR WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE, NTUALLY. ANYWAYS – SORRY I GAVE YOU AN IMPRSN I WAS NOT TENDG YOU TO PERCIEVE! BT WISH KMWREPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 20, 2018 AT 12:49 PM THANKYOU FOR, KEH, FOR SETTG ME STRAIGHT ON THAT. MY SCERE APOLOGI. I HAVE BEEN ON THE RECEIVG END OF SOME PRETTY VIC ACCATNS SCE STARTG THIS SE AND HAVE BEE A LTLE GUN SHY OF LATE. I WELE YOUR MENTS AND WILL READ THEM THE SPIR THEY ARE WRTEN OM NOW ON. I HOPE I HEAR OM YOU AGA.REPLY KELLY AUGT 6, 2021 AT 3:32 PM WHAT A LOAD OF STEAM’ CRAP MR. WARWICK. THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO SCIENCE TO BACK UP YOU CLAIM THAT FIFTY PERCENT OF THE POPULATN ARE BISEXUAL. THAT’S BOTH HILAR AND NONSENSIL AT THE SAME TIME.REPLY KTY JUNE 13, 2023 AT 8:07 AM YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP YOUR ASSERTNS THAT 50% ARE BISEXUAL. EVERYTHG YOU SAID ARE LIBERAL AND LEFTIST TALKG POTS.REPLY NICHOLAS STIX AUGT 11, 2017 AT 2:04 AM THANKS FOR YOUR RPONSE, ALAN. GARY COOPER? HE SURE GOT AROUND, MR. KISS-AND-TELL, THE HEEL.IN ANY EVENT, BARBARA STANWYCK HAS TO BE ON THE SHORT LIST OF THE GREATT HOLLYWOOD PERFORMERS TO NEVER W AN OSR. I SUPPOSE THE CLOST SHE ME WAS FOR DOUBLE INMNY 1944, WHEN INGRID BERGMAN WON FOR GASLIGHT.REPLY ALAN ROYLE AUGT 11, 2017 AT 11:28 AM I WATCH ‘DOUBLE INMNY TWO OR THREE TIM A YEAR. I LOVE THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE PICTURE AND ALL THREE PRCIPALS ARE FABULO. I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT MUCH OF ‘GASLIGHT’. BABS WUZ ROBBED.REPLY NICHOLAS STIX AUGT 9, 2017 AT 5:17 PM WHAT ABOUT FRANK CAPRA? STANWYCK AND CAPRA SUPPOSEDLY HAD A HOT AFFAIR DURG THE EARLY 30S, WHEN THEY WORKED TOGETHER ON THE BTER TEA OF GENERAL YEN.REPLY ALAN ROYLE AUGT 10, 2017 AT 5:57 PM Y, NICHOLAS, THAT’S TE. SHE HAD NUMERO AFFAIRS WH BOTH SEX. GARY COOPER WAS ANOTHER THAT TO MD.REPLY GARBO MAY 9, 2017 AT 10:26 PM RICHARD BURTON SAID “ALL ACTORS ARE BI-SEXUAL.”REPLY ALAN ROYLE MAY 10, 2017 AT 5:11 PM AN ODD THG FOR HIM TO SAY. HE OPENLY NFIRMED THAT HE EXPERIMENTED WH HOMOSEXUALY HIMSELF, BUT JT ONCE. HE DID NOT ENJOY , HE SAID, SO SURELY HE ULD NOT CLASS HIMSELF AS BISEXUAL.REPLY JOHN CURRAN APRIL 27, 2017 AT 12:25 AM MY UNCLE JACK BURKE WAS MICKEY REDSTONE’S ATTORNEY FOR 30YRS. HE LIGATED THE ERNMENT BREAKUP OF THE STUD-THEATRE MONOPOLY. THE JEWISH COMMUNIST FILTRATN OF MOVI,……ETC. WHAT HE DID BEHD THE SCEN WAS SQUASH BLACKMAIL OF GAY PEDOPHIL, UNRWORLD GAMBLG BTS, ARRTS ON MORALS CHARG BY VICE PS AND ON AND MOTHER WAS HIS LEGAL SECRETARY. CONNIE H OF ‘MR ED’ WORKED HIS OFFICE FOR A WHILE BEFORE LEAVG FOR HOLLYWOOD. THE STUDS WERE AAID OF HOOVER AND THE NEW MEDIUM OF TV. WHEN MY GREAT UNCLE DIED 1974. MY MOTHER TOOK CTODY OF HIS FIL WH NO STCTNS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE MOTHER DIED 2008 AND I CURRENTLY POSSS THEM. THERE ARE 66 S OM MEDIATNS TO BAG JOBS. FRED OTASH BACKGROUND CHECKS AND PHOTOS ED QUE OFTEN FOR 6 YRS TO A FALLG MAYER’S LEASED SAFE HOE UNR AN ALIAS FOR AILG STARS AND FAI WHILE THEY DRIED OUT OR ELECTROSHOCKED TO CURE ‘HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILIA’ AT NEARBY ‘WTWOOD LODGE’ WHERE JUDY GARLAND WAS TREATED. MUCH IS D FOR OBV OF THE TROUBLED HIGH EARNERS WOULD BE BLACKMAILED BY STUD UNCLE NOTED THAT THIS ACTN ULD BACKFIRE .I ULDNT HELP THK OF TAYLOR TAKG LS MONEY FOR 24 YEARS!!!!! I AM REARCHG WHAT TO DO WH. ALL CLIENTS ARE CEASEDREPLY ALAN ROYLE APRIL 27, 2017 AT 12:51 PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOST TERTG MENT, JOHN. YOU APPEAR TO BE POSSSN OF DATA THAT WOULD MAKE FOR A FASCATG AND REVEALG BOOK SHOULD YOU CI TO E . I HOPE YOU DO. FEW OF GET THE OPPORTUNY TO ALTER HISTORY (OR AT LEAST THE WORLD’S PERCEPTN OF ), AND YOU SEEM TO BE A POSN TO DO SO. I TLY HOPE YOU DO AND I WISH YOU EVERY SUCCS. I FEEL CERTA THAT ANY MAJOR PUBLISHG HOE WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO UTILISE WHAT YOU HAVE AND PAY YOU HANDSOMELY FOR THE ONE PIECE OF ADVICE WOULD BE – TREAD REFULLY AND BE SURE TO AL WH SOMEONE YOU N GENUELY TST.REPLY ELVIS FEBARY 20, 2017 AT 11:38 PM VERY TERTG ARTICLE. I SAW BARBARA AT THE GOVERNORS BALL AFTER THE 1977 OSRS. SHE SAT AT A TABLE NEAR THE DANCE FLOOR, STARG ACROSS THE ROOM AT WILLIAM HOLN, WHOSE REER SHE SAVED WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO BE FIRED OM GOLN BOY. I WILL ALWAYS REGRET NOT WALKG OVER AND TALKG TO HER. I WAS 32 AND SHY.NO MATTER WHAT, SHE WAS A GREAT ACTRS AND A FASCATG PERSON.REPLY ALAN ROYLE FEBARY 21, 2017 AT 3:33 PM I ULD NOT AGREE MORE, ELVIS. I RATE ‘DOUBLE INMNY’ MY TOP 5 MOVI OF ALL TIME. SHE WAS WONRFUL (BLON WIG AND ALL).REPLY ALAN ROYLE FEBARY 21, 2017 AT 3:43 PM SHE WAS FABULO ‘DOUBLE INMNY’.REPLY WARREN PATTON AUGT 24, 2021 AT 2:48 AM SORRY IF MY QUTN APPEARS SO LATE AFTER YOUR POST ABOUT BARBARA STANWYCK. IT SUGGTS THAT SHE SAT ALONE, WHICH I WOULD FEEL IS TRAGIC. I WONR IF SHE EVER WAS TLY FORTABLE HER OWN SK OUTSI OF A MOVIE SET, ALTHOUGH VICTORIA WILSON CLAIMS SHE WAS GREAT PANY AND HAD MANY LOYAL IENDS. PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT HER LIFE ULTIMATELY WAS A TRIUMPH, BUT NO ONE ULD HAVE EMERGED OM THAT LIFE WHOUT TERRIBLE SRS. AND HER FAL YEARS, REPEATED TRAGEDI HNTED HER – HOLN’S ATH, THE HORRIFIC HOME BREAK-, THE HOE FIRE, ALL OF WHICH APPARENTLY TURNED HER TO A IGHTENED RECLE AT THE END. BT WISH.REPLY DEBORAH FIRRO JANUARY 14, 2022 AT 9:57 AM I THK THAT BARBARA AND WILLIAM HOLN WERE LOVE HE WAS TLY SHOCKED WHEN HE READ THAT SHE MARRIED ROBERT TAYLOR WAS 1939 AND THE STUD WANTED THEM MARRIED AND I THK SHE DID THAT TO SAVE ROBERT TAYLOR’S REER CUZ HE WAS A LOY ACTORREPLY LDA JUNE 26, 2016 AT 1:08 AM THANK YOU ALAN FOR YOUR NSIRED AND GRAC RPONS TO POSTS TO YOUR WEBSE. LDAREPLY ADM JUNE 26, 2016 AT 1:03 PM VERY KD OF YOU TO SAY SO, LDA. THANK YOU.REPLY RHONDA JUNE 6, 2016 AT 2:04 AM I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE MENTN OF HELEN FERGON LIVG WH STANWYCK WAS ORIGALLY MA BUT ’S NOT TE. AFTER THE DIVORCE OM TAYLOR, THE ONLY PERSON THAT LIVED WH HER WAS HER “UNCLE BUCK,” JAM MACK, WHO HAD KNOWN HER SCE HER DAYS AS A CHOS GIRL NYC. HE LIVED WH HER UNTIL HIS HEALTH TERRATED TO THE POT THAT HE HAD TO BE MOVED TO AN ASSISTED-LIVG TYPE PLACE. AFTER THAT, SHE ALWAYS LIVED ALONE; SHE DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A LIVE- MAID (SHE HAD A UPLE OF BAD EXPERIENC WH THEM AND DIDN’T TRY AGA). I’VE REARCHED STANWYCK EXTENSIVELY AND WOULD SAY THAT THE MOST RELIABLE ROURCE ON HER IS VICTORIA WILSON’S BGRAPHY. I ASSUME YOU GOT MOST OF YOUR RMATN OM AXEL MADSEN’S BGRAPHY; MOST OF THE STORI HAVE BEEN HEAVILY DISPUTED BY THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNEW STANWYCK. JT SO I DON’T E ACROSS AS A KNOW--ALL, I’VE GOTTEN MOST OF MY RMATN OM WILSON’S B AND OM A GOOD IEND OF LARRY KLENO, WHO WAS STANWYCK’S PUBLICIST AND CLOSE IEND FOR THE LATTER 25 YEARS OR SO OF HER LIFE.REPLY ADM JUNE 6, 2016 AT 4:22 AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TERTG VIEWS ON MISS STANWYCK, RHONDA. YOU MAY WELL BE RIGHT ABOUT MISS FERGON. I READ SO MANY PIEC AND BOOKS ON STANWYCK, IS QUE POSSIBLE I HAVE ERRED ON THE ISSUE OF FERGON LIVG WH HER. I HONTLY NNOT RELL THE ORIG(S) OF THAT DATA, BUT I EXPECT ME OM MORE THAN ONE. I GENERALLY SETTLE ON A MIMUM OF THREE SOURC BEFORE CIDG WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE TE OR NOT. THEN I MAKE MY ASSSMENTS. LIKE ALL HISTORIANS, HOWEVER, MISTAK ARE ALMOST EVABLE, SO IF I AM RRECT I TLY APOLOGISE. IT OCSNALLY OCCURS. OF URSE, YOU DO NOT ‘E ACROSS AS A KNOW--ALL’. I APPRECIATE AND RPECT YOUR PUT AND YOUR MENTS. THANKS AGA.REPLY KEN STANDG MAY 9, 2016 AT 2:48 AM IT SEEMS AN OPEN QUTN BUT I’VE E ACROSS THE MENT THAT, THEN, HOLLYWOOD, IF MOVED ….. LOTS OF EXPERIMENTATN AND SOUNDS AS THOUGH THEY ALL HAD AN TERTG TIME …….REPLY ALAN ROYLE MAY 9, 2016 AT 1:05 PM I THK IF YOU PUT HUNDREDS OF PHYSILLY BETIFUL MEN AND WOMEN TOGETHER, MANY OF THEM VOID OF A GREAT AL OF TELLIGENCE OR CHARACTER, PAY THEM MORE MONEY THAN THEY EVER DREAMT OF, SEND THEM OFF ON ANIZED DAT, HAVE THEM ATTEND BOOZE-LAN PARTI WHERE DGS ARE OFTEN AVAILABLE, AND THEN HAVE STUD ‘FIXERS’ CLEAN UP WHATEVER MS THEY GET THEMSELV TO, THEN OF URSE NDUCT ISSU WILL OCCUR. AND THEY DID. ADD TO THAT A GULLIBLE, ADORG PUBLIC READY TO SWALLOW WHATEVER BS THE STUDS THREW AT THEM, AND YOU HAVE THE FULLY-FLEDGED FANTASY WORLD KNOWN AS HOLLYWOOD. AND I AM NOT SAYG ALL ACTORS ARE STUPID OR WHOUT CHARACTER. FAR OM . A GREAT NUMBER OF THEM ARE MOST IMPRSIVE DIVIDUALS, BUT AN EQUAL NUMBER LIVE THE FANTASY TO THE BRIM AND DULGE THEMSELV WH LTLE RE ABOUT REPUTATNS OR NSEQUENC. AND THE ARE THE ON THAT MAKE THE HEADL. OF URSE, THE STUDS COULD HAVE KEPT THE DTRY CLEAN OM THE OUTSET BY EXPOSG AND REMOVG THE DIVIDUALS BUT, AS WE KNOW, THAT NEVER HAPPENED. WHY? BEE MANY OF THE WORST OFFENRS WERE MAKG A FORTUNE FOR THE MOVIE PANI AND PROVIDG SEXUAL FAVOURS TO BOOT.REPLY BARBARA MAY 5, 2016 AT 7:57 AM I DON’T BELIEVE TAYLOR WAS EVER GAY. I MEET HIM AS A CHILD. HE HAD A GOOD IEND N.M. AND MY FAY KNEW THEM WELL. I KNOW TAYLOR LOVED HORS AND THE FAY I’M TALKG ABOUT GAVE HIM A BLACK STALLN THAT HE RO HIS MOVIE BILLY THE KID. MY GRANDMOTHER KNEW MISS STANWYCK AND MET HER ON A TRA THE 30’S. MY GRANDMOTHER NAMED ME AFTER HER, AND THEY STAYED TOUCH FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE KEPT QUE THE WHOLE TIME, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT STANWYCK REALLY LOVED TAYLOR, AND I THK HER REER WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO HER THAN ANYTHG.REPLY ALAN ROYLE MAY 5, 2016 AT 1:45 PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR RPONSE. YOU MAY VERY WELL BE RIGHT. MY REARCH HAS UNVERED A GREAT MANY SOURC THAT WOULD DISAGREE WH YOU ON THIS, BUT THAT DO NOT NECSARILY MAKE THEM RIGHT. AS WH MOST ISSU HISTORY WE N ONLY VTIGATE AS REFULLY AS POSSIBLE, THEN FORMULATE AN OPN BASED ON AN ASSSMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE FOUND. HISTORY IS AT BT TED GUSWORK BASED ON PIECEMEAL RMATN. UNFORTUNATELY, THE STUDS LIED SO NSISTENTLY ABOUT MOST OF THEIR STARS THAT WE TEND TO THK EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS UNTE. TAYLOR AND STANWYCK MAY WELL BE VICTIMS OF THIS. THANK YOU AGA FOR YOUR TERTG MENT.REPLY LDA ALEXANR SEPTEMBER 10, 2015 AT 7:38 AM I NNOT SAY FOR CERTA WHETHER OR NOT BARBARA STANWYCK WAS BI-SEXUAL BUT I N TELL YOU THAT SHE & BOB TAYLOR NSUMMATED THEIR MARRIAGE, & THEN SOME. I N ALSO TELL YOU THAT HE WAS NOT GAY … AFTER TERVIEWS W/HARRY HAY, URSULA THIS (HIS 2ND WIFE), LIA DILEO (THE VERY PUBLIC AFFAIR WHICH FALLY BROKE UP HIS MARRIAGE TO BARBARA STANWYCK) & MANY OTHERS, I’VE NO DOUBT THE FOLKS KNEW THE TTH MORE THAN ANY WHISPERS OM HERE-&-THERE. READ: “RELUCTANT WNS: ROBERT TAYLOR, HOLLYWOOD, & COMMUNISM” TO BE RE-PUBLISHED NEXT YEAR (2016), BY LDA ALEXANR.REPLY ALAN ROYLE SEPTEMBER 10, 2015 AT 10:23 AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR RMED MENTS, LDA. ACTUALLY, I NEVER SAID TAYLOR WAS GAY. LIKE MANY HOLLYWOOD STARS OF BOTH GENRS HE APPEARED TO BE BISEXUAL. MAYER SISTED ON HE AND BARBARA MARRYG, SIMPLY TO WARD OFF THE MOURS ABOUT BOTH OF THEM. ALTHOUGH MANY HOLLYWOOD SIRS CLAIMED THAT BARBARA WAS A ‘CLOSETED LBIAN’, I BELIEVE SHE WAS BISEXUAL AS WELL. THERE WAS CERTALY AFFECTN BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, AND SHE WAS EPLY HURT BY THE ITALIAN AFFAIR THAT END THEIR MARRIAGE.REPLY S. ALLEN JULY 6, 2015 AT 4:26 PM IN ADDN TO MY PREV MENT ABOUT STANWYCK, I REFER TO MS. LREN BALL ON HER PRIVATE LIFE VS HER PUBLIC LIFE. ‘WHAT I DO MY PRIVATE LIFE IS MY BS, WHAT I DO MY PUBLIC LIFE IS ANYONE’S BS.’ SHE WAS FIRM THIS WHEN RPONDG TO C. ROSE’S QUTNS ABOUT FRANK SATRA. THIS DISCSN HAD TO DO W/ THE MEDIA BEG THE BEDROOMS OF PRINTS, AND OTHERS.REPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 6, 2015 AT 7:19 PM WELL, THERE ARE ARGUMENTS BOTH WAYS, I GUS. PEOPLE THE PUBLIC EYE ARE GENERALLY NSIRED TO BE PUBLIC PROPERTY. THE PRICE OF FAME. AS FOR THE MEDIA BEG THE BEDROOMS OF PRINTS, WELL, MY PERSONAL OPN IS THAT MOST PRINTS (AND POLICIANS) TELL LI WHENEVER SUS THEM. THEY TREAT WH DISDA AND THAT MAK THEM FAIR GAME MY BOOK. NO DOUBT YOU DISAGREE WHICH IS, OF URSE, YOUR PREROGATIVE.REPLY S. ALLEN JULY 6, 2015 AT 4:05 PM I READ THAT TAYLOR WAS STANWYCK’S ONE TE LOVE, AND IF I’M RRECT, SHE VISED HIM WHEN HE WAS CLOSE TO ATH? WHATEVER STANWYCK WAS, SHE WAS ONE HELL OF AN ACTRS, AND KNEW ALL ABOUT PROPER LIGHTG I.E. TECHNIL STUFF.REPLY ALAN ROYLE JULY 6, 2015 AT 7:14 PM I AM A HUGE STANWYCK FAN. I THK I WATCH ‘DOUBLE INMNY’ ABOUT 10 TIM A YEAR! I DO THK THAT SHE AND TAYLOR BEME GREAT IENDS THE END, BUT I ALSO THK HER TE LOV WERE WOMEN, NOT MEN, PARTICULAR CRAWFORD AND HER PUBLICIST HELEN FERGON.REPLYLEAVE A REPLY CANCEL REPLYYOUR EMAIL ADDRS WILL NOT BE PUBLISHED.COMMENTNAME *EMAIL *WEBSESAVE MY NAME, EMAIL, AND WEBSE THIS BROWSER FOR THE NEXT TIME I MENT. IF A NEW COMMENT IS POSTED:DO NOT SEND EMAIL NOTIFITNS.SEND EMAIL NOTIFITN ONLY IF SOMEONE REPLI TO MY COMMENT(S).SEND EMAIL NOTIFITN WHENEVER A NEW COMMENT IS POSTED.ΔTHIS SE AKISMET TO RCE SPAM. LEARN HOW YOUR MENT DATA IS PROCSED.LOOKG FOR SOMETHG? 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