Jul Ramirez and John Umberger were found ad after leavg New York gay bars last year, wh their bank acunts draed. NBC's Jay Valle has more.
Contents:
- DGGGS, DEATHS AND ROBBERI PUT NEW YORK’S GAY COMMUNY ON EDGE
- INDICTMENTS ARE HAND UP NNECTN WH NYC GAY BAR KILLGS, SOURC SAY
- NYC GAY BAR ATHS WERE HOMICIS, MEDIL EXAMER L
- NYPD IS VTIGATG A STRG OF ASSLTS POTENTIALLY LKED TO ATHS OF 2 GAY MEN
- NEW YORK CY GAY MUNY ON HIGH ALERT AFTER STRG OF ALLEGED DGGGS, ROBBERI AND AT LEAST TWO ATHS
- GAY NEW YORKERS SHARE ACUNTS SIAR TO ROBBERI THAT LEFT TWO AD
- LAST CALL: BEHD THE TERRIFYG UNTOLD STORY OF NEW YORK'S GAY BAR KILLER
- NEW YORK CY GAY BAR ATHS CLASSIFIED AS HOMICIS
- HELL'S KCHEN GAY BARS REACT TO ATTACKS ON QUEER MEN
- DEATHS OF 2 MEN THAT WERE DGGED, ASSLTED AT GAY NIGHTCLUBS LED AS HOMICIS
- ‘I GOT AN UMBRELLA AND AMBN’: INDICTMENT REVEALS ALLEGED CONSPIRACY BEHD GAY BAR DEATHS
- GAY BAR DEATHS NEW YORK CY RULED AS HOMICIS
- 2ND MAN TURNS HIMSELF INTO POLICE DEADLY NYC GAY BAR DGGGS
- SEVERAL FACE CHARG KILLGS OF GAY MEN WHO WERE DGGED AND ROBBED
- MURR SPECTS ARRAIGNED STRG OF NYC GAY BAR ROBBERI THAT LEFT TWO AD
- 1000S WHO DIED ANTI-GAY, ANTI-TRANS ATTACKS (UPDAT)
DGGGS, DEATHS AND ROBBERI PUT NEW YORK’S GAY COMMUNY ON EDGE
Two gay men who end up ad wh their bank acunts draed after leavg New York Cy bars last year were both homici victims, thori said Friday. * new york gay deaths *
AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTAt first, the men’s aths were treated as overdos, until tens of thoands of dollars were found draed om their bank Umberger was seen leavg the Q nightclub Manhattan, his mother Moon for The New York TimJul Ramirez died the back seat of a taxi April after he left a popular gay bar Manhattan wh a group of men. They stole his wallet, phone and ID before they abandoned his body the r wh a distrsed month later, John Umberger was found ad an Upper East Si townhoe after he and a group of men left another popular gay bar jt three blocks om the last place Mr. Muny at first regard the aths as isolated dg overdos: men who partied too hard, quotidian tragedi a gay nightlife scene that has roared back to life as the ronavis panmic has the men’s fai soon disvered somethg more sister: Cred rds the men’s nam were maxed out and their bank acunts draed of tens of thoands of dollars.
Muny, which emerged om the panmic to the jaws of a monkeypox outbreak, a landspe of stgglg and sometim shuttered bars and an creasgly hostile natnal polil have also spread fear and mor, while startg a broar nversatn about siar attacks that have quietly plagued the cy’s gay nightlife for years. Umberger were targeted bee they were gay, and they have not said if they believe the men’s aths and other nonfatal attacks are men who said they were dgged have stggled to nvce the police they were the victims of a crime and not jt irrponsible partygoers who took someone home and blacked Alarn, 33, said he was dgged at the Rz March 2020. Umberger, The Tim has spoken to five men who said they were dgged at gay bars the cy — cludg the Eagle, the Boiler Room and the 9th Avenue Saloon — and then robbed.
INDICTMENTS ARE HAND UP NNECTN WH NYC GAY BAR KILLGS, SOURC SAY
The New York Cy Police Department nfirmed Monday that is vtigatg a strg of robberi and asslts that may be nnected to the aths of two gay * new york gay deaths *
It is also ed recreatnally by some the gay Burt, 27, was robbed of more than $25, 000 after he was dgged at the Boiler Room the East Village last December.
NYC GAY BAR ATHS WERE HOMICIS, MEDIL EXAMER L
The New York Cy Police Department is the vtigatg the two aths of gay men after they vised LGBT bars Manhattan, and a strg of robberi and asslts agast gay men. * new york gay deaths *
ImageCouncilman Erik Bottcher reprents much of the cy’s gay heartland Hell’s Kchen, Chelsea and the Wt Moon for The New York TimGay bars hold a special place L. Councilman Erik Bottcher — who reprents much of the cy’s gay heartland Hell’s Kchen, Chelsea and the Wt Village — lled “a goln age of nightlife. Bar Colorado addn, many gay bars are or near Midtown Manhattan, which has been transformed by panmic-era enomic llapse and acts of high-profile street crime.
More about Liam StackA versn of this article appears prt on, Sectn A, Page 16 of the New York edn wh the headle: Dgggs, Deaths and Robberi Put Cy’s Gay Communy on Edge. A Manhattan grand jury has dicted several spects nnectn wh the aths of two men who were dgged and killed separate cints followg viss to New York Cy gay bars last year, two law enforcement officials said Wednday.
NYPD IS VTIGATG A STRG OF ASSLTS POTENTIALLY LKED TO ATHS OF 2 GAY MEN
In a new book, journalist Elon Green explor the unr-reported stori of gay men btally murred by a killer who evad jtice for a * new york gay deaths *
The Manhattan District Attorney’s office cled to ment, as did an NYPD spokman, cg the ongog Umberger and Jul Clary; Fay photoUmberger and Ramirez were both found ad after visg gay bars the cy’s lively Hell’s Kchen neighborhood last sprg.
It is unclear, however, if they were of gay men found ad after visg gay bars or whether they were nnected to the dicted spects.
NEW YORK CY GAY MUNY ON HIGH ALERT AFTER STRG OF ALLEGED DGGGS, ROBBERI AND AT LEAST TWO ATHS
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”In the months followg the aths of Ramirez and Umberger, more gay New Yorkers stepped forward wh eerily siar acunts. NBC News has spoken wh several gay men who said they survived siar cints om December 2021 to October 2022, both before and after the aths of Ramirez and NYPD nfirmed mid-November that was vtigatg addnal acunts of grand larceny at other Manhattan gay bars that had siari to the Umberger and Ramirez s.
Two gay men who end up ad wh their bank acunts draed after leavg New York Cy bars last year were both homici victims, thori said men died separate cints. Invtigators wanted to know more about the aths of Jul Ramirez and John Umberger and if they were among “several cints where dividuals have been victims of eher robberi or asslt, " police said at the Umberger and Jul Ramirez were dgged and killed separate cints followg viss to New York Cy gay Clary; Fay photoThe aths of both men have been led homicis ed by a "dg-facilated theft, " the Office of Chief Medil Examer said Friday.
A month later, Umberger, a 33-year-old polil nsultant, was found ad after he and two unintified men left another popular Hell’s Kchen gay bar, the Q.
GAY NEW YORKERS SHARE ACUNTS SIAR TO ROBBERI THAT LEFT TWO AD
A New York medil examer has led the aths of two men who were asslted at gay nightclubs as homicis. * new york gay deaths *
Umberger’s ath was ed by "acute toxitn by the bed effects of fentanyl, p-fluorofentanyl, e, lidoe and ethanol, " the medil examer members of the two men uld not immediately be reached for ment the months followg the aths, more gay New Yorkers me forward wh acunts that had siari.
The NYPD also nfirmed addnal acunts of grand larceni at other New York Cy gay bars that rembled Ramirez's and Umberger's s. The New York Cy Police Department nfirmed Monday that is vtigatg a strg of robberi and asslts that may be nnected to the aths of two gay men earlier this year shortly after they left gay bars Manhattan's Hell's Kchen neighborhood.
His fay prevly told NBC News that approximately $20, 000 had been draed om his bank acunts and that they believed he was Umberger and Jul Ramirez were dgged and killed separate cints followg viss to New York Cy gay Clary / Fay photoAbout a month later, Umberger, a 33-year-old polil nsultant, was found ad after he and two unintified men left another popular Hell's Kchen gay bar, the Q. The New York Cy Police Department is vtigatg a strg of cints which gay men say they were dgged at bars and left wh massive unthorized bank acunt whdrawals. At least two other gay men were disvered ad wh spic bank whdrawals, acrdg to fay members who are soundg the alarm on their aths.
LAST CALL: BEHD THE TERRIFYG UNTOLD STORY OF NEW YORK'S GAY BAR KILLER
In 2022, the fatal dggg and robbg of Jul Ramirez and John Umberger outsi New York gay bars put the cy's LGBTQ muny on edge. * new york gay deaths *
"Umberger, 33, was disvered ad an Upper East Si townhoe May after he left a gay club Hell’s Kchen wh a group of other men, the New York Tim reported Saturday. Jt a month earlier, another man named Jul Ramirez, 25, died the back of a b after leavg a gay bar wh a group of men jt blocks om where Umberger had spent the eveng before his both s, the men’s cellphon were missg when their bodi were disvered. "VIDEO SHOWS SUSPECT IN NYC GAY BAR ATTACKThe New York Cy Police Department told Fox News Digal on Monday that Ramirez’s and Umberger’s aths "are currently unr vtigatn and the medil examer will terme their of ath.
NEW YORK CY GAY BAR ATHS CLASSIFIED AS HOMICIS
New York’s chief medil examer’s office said that two gay men were killed by “dg-facilated theft.” * new york gay deaths *
The Rz Bar and Lounge Manhattan (Google Maps)Other men, however, have also reported beg dgged and robbed of fanc after a night out at a gay bars and clubs Manhattan.
"After wakg up, he disvered $2, 000 had been transferred out of his acunts through Paypal and Zelle apps on his New York Tim spoke to five men who said they were dgged at gay bars the cy and then robbed. SUSPECT IN NYC GAY BAR ATTACKS ARRESTED"[The NYPD] asked me if I had been asslted, and I was like, ‘Gettg dgged is asslt, ’" Tyler Burt, 27, said.
HELL'S KCHEN GAY BARS REACT TO ATTACKS ON QUEER MEN
’" The Boiler Room Manhattan (Google Maps)Burt said he was robbed of more than $25, 000 after beg dgged at the Boiler Room gay bar the East Village last asked about the strg of alleged dgggs and robberi agast gay men, the NYPD nfirmed to Fox News Digal that the "Crim Agast Persons Un, along wh the Manhattan North and South Homici Squads, are jotly workg wh our partners the New York County District Attorney’s Office to vtigate several cints where dividuals have been victims of eher robberi or asslt. Both of their bank acunts were they may not be the only gay New Yorkers are g forward for the first time wh acunts that share notable siari to the unexplaed aths this sprg of Jul Ramirez, 25, a social worker, and John Umberger, 33, a polil biggt difference so far: They News spoke to two people who scribed harrowg experienc that seem to broadly f the pattern of what happened to Ramirez and Umberger. Meanwhile, the gay muny the untry’s largt LGBTQ cy awas Person, 55, says he was robbed siar circumstanc 2018 and, bed wh the recent reports, the experience has left him shaken.
DEATHS OF 2 MEN THAT WERE DGGED, ASSLTED AT GAY NIGHTCLUBS LED AS HOMICIS
”No memori and emptied bank acuntsIn December, Burt — who reached out to NBC News on social media after recent reports regardg the two aths — was walkg home om a night out wh iends when he stopped at The Boiler Room, a popular gay bar Manhattan’s East Village, for one last drk by himself. Lda Clary is prsg the NYPD to further vtigate the ath of her son, John ClaryRoughly a month later, Umberger was found ad after he and two unintified men left another popular Hell’s Kchen gay bar, The Q.
In fact, the people who were most at risk – this se, gay men who met for hook-ups at New York Cy bars that served the muny – were given no staed or amplified warngs by eher the thori or the media, creatg a safe space for the murrer to ntue to wreak havoc. In fact, the se got so ltle attentn relative to s horror that today few remember , even wh the gay, three s after the murrs, journalist Elon Green has wrten a book tled Last Call: A Te Story of Love, Lt, and Murr Queer New York that go beyond the facts of the story to reveal the larger issu that surround them. Worse, that perd reprented the height of ignorance and fear about Aids, as well as the peak ath toll the gay muny the wt, greatly impactg how the muny was viewed.
‘I GOT AN UMBRELLA AND AMBN’: INDICTMENT REVEALS ALLEGED CONSPIRACY BEHD GAY BAR DEATHS
“Aids took what was, at bt, a level of difference towards gay people and turned to revulsn, ” said Green. Between 1987 and 1994 the cy saw a greater number of killgs than any other stretch more than half a that benighted era, gay bars were often ‘the one refuge om the perils of everyday life’, says Green. ’ Photograph: Wonwoo Lee/Getty Imag/Image SourceI n speak to the equency of vlence the gay muny back then.
In that same time ame, a close iend was gay-bashed to unnscns by a gang of young men, g a days-long stay the hospal, and I was punched so hard the stomach outsi a gay dance club I thought the guy mt have ed a hammer.
GAY BAR DEATHS NEW YORK CY RULED AS HOMICIS
Several years later, on a sunny day on Christopher Street (then the center of New York’s gay life), a man g an anti-gay ephet smashed my bt iend the head wh a rock. ”Meanwhile, the officer did story at the re of Last Call ptur a time the cy, and the liv of gay men, that seem far removed om the current one.
Back that benighted era, gay bars were often “the one refuge om the perils of everyday life”, said Green. At the same time, was a particular type of gay man equentg a specific kd of bar, who tend to be the victim this se. As to why he elud jtice the s, Green said, “most likely the jury believed that this was a gay man attackg another gay man and they didn’t re about the circumstanc.
Given a chance to acqu, they took ” the same time, Green said that he “ultimately realized that the killer (who was himself gay) was laborg unr the same societal nstrats his victims were. While Green believed homophobia played a major part that, he also said “cisns that law enforcement ma ntributed to the long lay.
2ND MAN TURNS HIMSELF INTO POLICE DEADLY NYC GAY BAR DGGGS
Bar operators Manhattan's heavily gay Hell's Kchen neighborhood say they're takg steps to protect patrons reactn to the killgs of two men last year. From Your Se ArticlMan Wanted for Asslt Outsi Gay NYC Council Member's Apartment ›Gay Men Say They Feel Lucky To Be Alive After Beg Dgged, Robbed ›Gay Man Btally Stabbed New York Cy, Police Search for Spects ›NYPD Invtigat Spate of Killgs & Thefts Involvg LGBTQ+ People ›. The New York Cy Office of the Chief Medil Examer led Friday on the aths of two men who died after they were dgged and beaten at gay nightclubs Hell's 2022 aths of John Umberger and Jul Ramirez were led homicis after they were given dgs tated wh fentanyl, acrdg to police.
It brought public attentn to several patterns of dgggs and robberi, some volvg members of the gay muny, that rulted as many as seven overdose medil examer’s termatn the aths were homicis now allows tectiv and prosecutors to beg pursug charg agast the spects who are unr vtigatn other, siar, aths. Last April, Jul Ramirez, a 25-year-old social worker, met a group of men at the Rz Bar & Lounge, a ntil-themed gay dance club Hell’s Kchen, two blocks om Tim Square.
SEVERAL FACE CHARG KILLGS OF GAY MEN WHO WERE DGGED AND ROBBED
‘Shady outsirs gay spac’The NYPD chief of tectiv, Jam Essig, has strsed that the dggg attacks aren’t jt aimed at queer people: “This is based solely on moary ga, ” he said last year.
”Miguel Tavar, a New Yorker who has joed Hell’s Kchen parti for more than a , thks the thiev uld be explog the thgs that make gay nightlife so appealg: “The tth is, I do let my guard down when I e out to the plac, bee you’re yearng for nnectn.
MURR SPECTS ARRAIGNED STRG OF NYC GAY BAR ROBBERI THAT LEFT TWO AD
Even better if the staff are part of the queer muny: “One of the bartenrs we met durg our nvassg was an elr gay man workg for a private secury pany. The New York state senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal, whose district clus Hell’s Kchen and Chelsea – another queer nightlife district – says he heard om a Chelsea gay bar owner who “lerally pulled out a potential victim om a van” after someone tried to kidnap one of his patrons.
A seri of dgggs and robberi — cludg two fatal overdos — outsi bars 2022 left New York's gay muny on edge.
On April 21, 2022, some of the fendants approached Jul Ramirez outsi of the Rz Bar, the dictment stated, a gay bar Midtown Manhattan.
1000S WHO DIED ANTI-GAY, ANTI-TRANS ATTACKS (UPDAT)
The dictments e after police have said they were vtigatg siar crim at bars, where they said gay people and straight people have both been victimized, acrdg to the New York Tim. The aths of two gay men New York Cy were homicis, acrdg to the cy's medil year, Jul Ramirez and John Umberger were found ad and had their bank acunts emptied. Umberger, 33, was found about a month later after he and a uple of men left the Q, a gay bar Hell’s Kchen.
”The New York Police Department has nfirmed thefts at gay bars that remble both Ramirez’s and Umberger’s s.