Pastor Says 'Solutn' to Gay People Is Executns: It's the Bible

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• PASTOR SAYS 'SOLUTN' TO GAY PEOPLE IS EXECUTNS: IT'S THE BIBLE
• BIBLE'S STANCE ON HOMOSEXUALY BIBLE SHOWS NO UNRSTANDG OF HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATN AS MUTUALLY SUPPORTIVE AND AFFIRMGALAN SHEARD, RETIRED NSULTANT PUBLIC HEALTH MEDICEAUTHOR RMATN COPYRIGHT AND LICENSE RMATN PMC DISCLAIMERWOODBECK DN22 OJJ GRO.DIA@NAEDTERCOPYRIGHT © 2000, BRISH MEDIL JOURNALEDOR—WAYTE QUOT SELECTIVELY OM THE NATNAL SURVEY ON SEXUALY ABOUT THE PREVALENCE OF HOMOSEXUALY.1 HE IS DOG EXACTLY WHAT I REPORTED MY PERSONAL VIEW—DISTORTG THE EVINCE.HE SAYS THAT THE “BIBLE REFERENC TO HOMOSEXUALY CLEARLY SHOW THAT THEY ARE DISAPPROVG OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVY (NOT ORIENTATN).”1 EXPERTS BIBLIL TERPRETATN BELIEVE THAT BIBLIL TIM THERE WAS NO UNRSTANDG OF THE MORN VIEW OF HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATN AS MUTUALLY SUPPORTIVE AND AFFIRMG.2,3 WAYTE IS RIGHT SAYG THAT THE BIBLE'S STANCE IS NOT TO “BASH HOMOSEXUALS.” LEVIC CHAPTER 20, VERSE 13 READS: “IF A MAN HAS TERURSE WH A MAN AS WH A WOMAN, BOTH M AN ABOMATN. THEY MT BE PUT TO ATH.” SO THE BIBLE'S STANCE IS NOT JT TO BASH HOMOSEXUALS BUT TO MURR THEM. WHY WAYTE OR ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ASSOCIATE THEMSELV WH SUCH BARBARO AND HUMAN TEXTS IS BEYOND MY PREHENSN.WAYTE MENTS ON THE MEDIL RISKS OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVY BY WHICH HE PRUMABLY MEANS ANAL TERURSE. BUT ONLY TWO THIRDS OF GAY MEN TAKE PART ANAL TERURSE WHILE AS MANY AS ONE THIRD OF HETEROSEXUALS DO SO. THIS MEANS THAT MORE HETEROSEXUALS THAN HOMOSEXUALS HAVE ANAL TERURSE.4 WAYTE'S CRICISMS SHOULD THEREFORE BE PRIMARILY ADDRSED TO HETEROSEXUALS. AND THE NATNAL SURVEY FOUND THAT THERE IS NO GREAT DISPARY BETWEEN NUMBERS OF PARTNERS OVERALL.WAYTE SAYS THAT THE E OF THE WORD HOMOPHOBIA THIS NTEXT IS RRECT. A RECENT SURVEY OF 4000 KNOWN HOMOSEXUALS AND BISEXUALS HAS SHOWN THAT 34% OF GAY MEN AND 24% OF LBIANS HAD EXPERIENCED PHYSIL VLENCE AND 73% HAD BEEN TNTED THE PREV FIVE YEARS BEE OF THEIR SEXUALY.5 THIS IS CLEAR EVINCE OF THE “EXTREME ABNORMAL FEAR OR AVERSN TO” HOMOSEXUALY WHICH WAYTE RIGHTLY QUOT AS A RRECT (THOUGH UNGRAMMATIL) FN OF HOMOPHOBIA.REFERENC1. WAYTE C. BIBLE IS DISAPPROVG OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVY BUT NOT HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATN. BMJ. 1999;319:123. . (10 JULY.) [PMC EE ARTICLE] [PUBMED] [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]2. VASEY M. FRIENDS AND STRANGERS. LONDON: HODR AND STOUGHTON; 1995. [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]3. REISS M. HOMOSEXUALY AND SCHOOLS—A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE. LONDON: NATNAL CHILDREN'S BURE; 1999. . (SEX TN FOM LECTURE 1 JULY.) [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]4. BELL R. ABC OF SEXUAL HEALTH: HOMOSEXUAL MEN AND WOMEN. BMJ. 1999;318:452–455. [PMC EE ARTICLE] [PUBMED] [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]5. HEALTH EDUTN AUTHORY. MENTAL HEALTH PROMOTN AND SEXUAL INTY. LONDON: HEA; 1998. [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]BMJ. 2000 FEB 19; 320(7233): 514. » SUMMARY OF RAPID RPONS 2000 FEB 19; 320(7233): 514. SUMMARY OF RAPID RPONS

PASTOR SAYS 'SOLUTN' TO GAY PEOPLE IS EXECUTNS: IT'S THE BIBLE

Although s unlikely that the biblil thors had any notn of sexual orientatn (for example, the term homosexual wasn't even ed until the late 19th century) for many people of fah, the Bible is looked to for timels guidance on what means to honor God wh our liv; and this most certaly clus our sexualy. ” In askg, “What do the Bible say about homosexualy” (or more appropriately stated, “what do the Bible say about attractn to someone of the same sex, ”) our task is to explore what the relevant biblil passag on the topic meant their origal ntext and what they mean for today.

BIBLE'S STANCE ON HOMOSEXUALY BIBLE SHOWS NO UNRSTANDG OF HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATN AS MUTUALLY SUPPORTIVE AND AFFIRMGALAN SHEARD, RETIRED NSULTANT PUBLIC HEALTH MEDICEAUTHOR RMATN COPYRIGHT AND LICENSE RMATN PMC DISCLAIMERWOODBECK DN22 OJJ GRO.DIA@NAEDTERCOPYRIGHT © 2000, BRISH MEDIL JOURNALEDOR—WAYTE QUOT SELECTIVELY OM THE NATNAL SURVEY ON SEXUALY ABOUT THE PREVALENCE OF HOMOSEXUALY.1 HE IS DOG EXACTLY WHAT I REPORTED MY PERSONAL VIEW—DISTORTG THE EVINCE.HE SAYS THAT THE “BIBLE REFERENC TO HOMOSEXUALY CLEARLY SHOW THAT THEY ARE DISAPPROVG OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVY (NOT ORIENTATN).”1 EXPERTS BIBLIL TERPRETATN BELIEVE THAT BIBLIL TIM THERE WAS NO UNRSTANDG OF THE MORN VIEW OF HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATN AS MUTUALLY SUPPORTIVE AND AFFIRMG.2,3 WAYTE IS RIGHT SAYG THAT THE BIBLE'S STANCE IS NOT TO “BASH HOMOSEXUALS.” LEVIC CHAPTER 20, VERSE 13 READS: “IF A MAN HAS TERURSE WH A MAN AS WH A WOMAN, BOTH M AN ABOMATN. THEY MT BE PUT TO ATH.” SO THE BIBLE'S STANCE IS NOT JT TO BASH HOMOSEXUALS BUT TO MURR THEM. WHY WAYTE OR ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ASSOCIATE THEMSELV WH SUCH BARBARO AND HUMAN TEXTS IS BEYOND MY PREHENSN.WAYTE MENTS ON THE MEDIL RISKS OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVY BY WHICH HE PRUMABLY MEANS ANAL TERURSE. BUT ONLY TWO THIRDS OF GAY MEN TAKE PART ANAL TERURSE WHILE AS MANY AS ONE THIRD OF HETEROSEXUALS DO SO. THIS MEANS THAT MORE HETEROSEXUALS THAN HOMOSEXUALS HAVE ANAL TERURSE.4 WAYTE'S CRICISMS SHOULD THEREFORE BE PRIMARILY ADDRSED TO HETEROSEXUALS. AND THE NATNAL SURVEY FOUND THAT THERE IS NO GREAT DISPARY BETWEEN NUMBERS OF PARTNERS OVERALL.WAYTE SAYS THAT THE E OF THE WORD HOMOPHOBIA THIS NTEXT IS RRECT. A RECENT SURVEY OF 4000 KNOWN HOMOSEXUALS AND BISEXUALS HAS SHOWN THAT 34% OF GAY MEN AND 24% OF LBIANS HAD EXPERIENCED PHYSIL VLENCE AND 73% HAD BEEN TNTED THE PREV FIVE YEARS BEE OF THEIR SEXUALY.5 THIS IS CLEAR EVINCE OF THE “EXTREME ABNORMAL FEAR OR AVERSN TO” HOMOSEXUALY WHICH WAYTE RIGHTLY QUOT AS A RRECT (THOUGH UNGRAMMATIL) FN OF HOMOPHOBIA.REFERENC1. WAYTE C. BIBLE IS DISAPPROVG OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVY BUT NOT HOMOSEXUAL ORIENTATN. BMJ. 1999;319:123. . (10 JULY.) [PMC EE ARTICLE] [PUBMED] [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]2. VASEY M. FRIENDS AND STRANGERS. LONDON: HODR AND STOUGHTON; 1995. [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]3. REISS M. HOMOSEXUALY AND SCHOOLS—A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE. LONDON: NATNAL CHILDREN'S BURE; 1999. . (SEX TN FOM LECTURE 1 JULY.) [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]4. BELL R. ABC OF SEXUAL HEALTH: HOMOSEXUAL MEN AND WOMEN. BMJ. 1999;318:452–455. [PMC EE ARTICLE] [PUBMED] [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]5. HEALTH EDUTN AUTHORY. MENTAL HEALTH PROMOTN AND SEXUAL INTY. LONDON: HEA; 1998. [GOOGLE SCHOLAR]BMJ. 2000 FEB 19; 320(7233): 514. » SUMMARY OF RAPID RPONS 2000 FEB 19; 320(7233): 514. SUMMARY OF RAPID RPONS

Their ncln is that was a other words, the Biblil assertn that homosexualy is a s—the talyst for an entire shift culture, wh polil repercsns, relig implitns, nsequenc for LGBT rights and acceptance, and, ankly, adly rults—was, they allege, a a new film asserts, was “the mise of a sgle word that changed the urse of history. Moreover, there’s g to terms wh the notn that human error uld be rponsible for the stokg of homophobia—a mdset of hatred, opprsn, and relig natnalism that has fed the last 75 years of our anyone has even seen the film, there has been an anized effort to attack and bunk the film’s claims.

12, we spoke wh Rogg about the work she did (along wh scholars and activists Kathy Baldock and Ed Oxford) to meticuloly substantiate the film’s claims, the challenge of gettg through to a Christian muny that ref even to hear the evince, and how a documentary like this uld change the the Thgs the Bible Wants to Execute You ForI grew up the church, but I am still someone who found the ia of “homosexual” beg a mistranslatn the Bible to be shockg. "Sunday's sermon is not the first time members of the Stedfast Baptist Church have preached anti-LGBT year, Shelley, who has repeatedly lled for the ath of gay people, celebrated the ath of a gay man at a Pri para. Followg Matthew V' terview will be rpons om evangelil theologians, and fally, gut ntributns om Christians who have chosen not to engage homosexualy and those who don't believe a gay liftyle nflicts wh the Bible.

"There is no ntradictn between beg Christian and beg gay, " he told arguments – maly agast six Bible passag that are monly ed by Christians to nmn homosexualy – are gag populary as evinced by his YouTube views. In six months, an over hour-long vio of V meticuloly challengg what he lls the tradnal terpretatn of Scripture has garnered nearly 400, 000 an terview wh The Christian Post, V ma clear that he believ that Christians who believe homosexualy is a s are wrong. "Lovg, same-sex relatnships" are not addrsed the Bible, let alone nmned, he distguish between ltful, sual homosexual behavr and lovg, "natural" same-sex relatnships, argug that is only the former behavr that the Bible speaks Wicha, Kan., rint has already changed some Christians' stance on homosexualy, cludg that of his vout Christian father, whom he me out to jt a uple years has stated that he was raised a lovg, Christian home – never molted or abed – and a church muny that holds the tradnal view of homosexualy.

He exprsed optimism that the acceptance of gay Christians will soon is a transcript of the What were the scholarly works or people you talked to that led you to velop your view on Scripture and homosexualy? But when you have gay people your life that you re about, mak you want to nsir thgs more once then I cid to really study the scriptural issu pth, what I did was, there are dozens of works of scholarship out there now on this subject om all perspectiv, and so I started buyg different books that seemed to be regularly referenced.

So havg many different nversatns wh fellow Christians about the issue, and also many different nversatns wh gay people about the issue, I feel that that was what was most fluential to me – this amalgamatn of experienc and studi rather than any other one work or In the vio, you give an explanatn about the scriptur that addrs homosexualy and how you believe they have been misunrstood by a lot of mastream church. A misunrstandg about sexual orientatn, bee very few people percentage-wise are gay, is very easy for people who are heterosexual to project their own experienc onto those of everyone else's; and then to end up margalizg and excludg gay people bee they don't really unrstand that they are not simply misbehavg by actg a different way and by pursug same-sex relatnships, but they are fundamentally different, have a different sexual orientatn. Once the new gloss were add to the text, the prohibns Levic agast ct no longer outlawed any same-sex uplgs; only heterosexual pairs were a later edor of Levic opposed homosexual terurse, you might wonr, wouldn’t have ma more sense for him (and was probably a him) to leave the origal bans on homosexual ct tact?

For example, a sign clarg an office to be closed on Sundays suggts that the office is open on all other days of the, apply this prciple to Levic 18: A law clarg that homosexual ct is prohibed uld reasonably be taken to dite that non-ctuo homosexual terurse is permted. By the same token, ’s not necsary to stipulate that sex between two specific men is forbidn if a tegoril prohibn agast sex between men is already on the seems that wh the later troductn Levic of a law banng all male homosexual terurse, beme expedient to brg the earlier material up-to-date by dog away wh two now-superfluo junctns agast homosexual ct — junctns that ma sense when sex between men was otherwise edor’s cisn to ntralize old laws by wrg new gloss, stead of letg the laws altogether, is serendipo: He left behd jt enough clu for his handiwork to be n only image how different the history of civilizatn might have been had the earlier versn of Levic 18’s laws entered the biblil non. Our Christian hearts, ns the (ually impassned) argument, pel to grant full moral and legal equaly to gay and lbian people; our Christian fah, the (ually impassned) rebuttal, pels to cleave, above all, to the word of God.

All tak is readg those passag of the Bible where homosexualy is mentned wh the same re we would any other passage of the n tst God; we n tst that God is we n tst that we n -- and that we certaly should -- take God, this matter, as all thgs, at his there is no clearly stated directive the Bible to margalize and ostracize gay people, then Christians ntug to do so is morally fensible, and mt nnot be nied is that Christians have ed a great al of pa and sufferg to gay persons, by:Banng their participatn the church, th privg them of the forts and spirual us of the church;Banng their participatn the sacrament of marriage, th privg them of the forts and spirual us of marriage;Damagg the bonds between gays and their straight fay members, th weakeng the forts and spirual us of fay life for both gays and their fai; andUsg their posn wh society as spokpersons for God to proclaim that all homosexual relatns are disdaed by God, th knowgly ntributg to the cel persecutn of a mory populatn. They say that the Bible f all homosexual acts as sful, stcts them to exclu om full participatn the church all non-repentant sners (cludg gay people), and morally lls upon them to publicly (or at least rolutely) nounce homosexual acts. Whout an explic directive om God to exclu and nmn homosexuals, the Christian muny's treatment of gay persons is clear vlatn of what J and the New Ttament wrers potedly intified as the most important mandment om God: to love one's neighbor as one's gay muny has cried out for jtice to Christians, who have a biblilly mandated obligatn to be jt.