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The Save Our Children mpaign by 1970s Christian csar Ana Bryant laid the groundwork for Florida's Don't Say Gay bill and the state's LGBTQ culture war.

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GAY COMIX HISTORY WH ANDY MANGELS

Andy Mangels was the third and fal edor for Gay Comix, and he ma some amazg chang as well as documentg s history. * spawn gay *

In s 18-year n om 1980 to 1998, Gay Comix went through two publishers and three edors, and each brought their own flavor to the seri. The fal edor, Andy Mangels, met wh to discs the progrsn of Gay Comix and how changed over the years. When discsg the history of queer ics, perhaps one of the most important thg to note is that beg openly gay 1980 was a potentially reer-endg move, particularly the cis male-domated world of ics.

At the same time, gay magaz were begng to n queer-centric ic strips. The momentum around gay ic creators ntued to build, and by 1980, the need for an anthology was apparent.

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Gay Comix was strongly nnected to that rebell legacy of Wimmen's Comix, but tablishg self as s own dividual anthology wh a wholly different purpose. In the words of edor Andy Mangels, "Gay Comix was not a llective. Bee of urse all gays and lbians know each other!

Mangels ntued, "They sent a letter out that said if you are… at that pot, was gay or lbian, there was no LGBTQ.

"Origally Gay Comix was schled whenever an issue was done. On a recent panel about Gay Comix, Triptow noted that he was of ill health and more than ready to leave by the time he eded his fal issue.

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class="article-le-byle" data-activy-map="le-byle-article-top">By <span class="byle-name"><a href=">Jillian Eugens</a></span></div></sectn><div class="article-body__ntent article-body-font--loadg"><p class="">At a public hearg Da County, Florida, parents were enraged. The natn, they said, was peril and children were at risk. A recent ordance had granted gay people hog and employment protectns, and that meant teachers uldn’t be fired bee of their sexualy. Florida classrooms quickly beme a battleground, and opponents of the ordance said the state’s support of civil rights for homosexuals was gg on their rights as parents. </p><p class="">Actn had to be taken, and a mpaign to lim the legal rights of LGBTQ people — all the name of protectg children — was enacted. A woman who spoke at this hearg said was her right to ntrol “the moral atmosphere which my children grow up.” That woman was Ana Bryant, formerly Miss Oklahoma and a whe, telegenic, Top 40 sger <a href=">who was well known for her Florida orange juice mercials</a> (“A day whout orange juice is like a day whout sunshe!” she’d say). Bryant spearhead an anti-LGBTQ mpaign of such impact that s echo n be heard today’s rhetoric. The year was 1977.</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><div id="taboolaReadMoreBelow"></div><p class="">Last month, nearly half a century after Bryant’s “Save Our Children” mpaign, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed the Parental Rights Edutn bill, dubbed the “Don’t Say Gay” bill by s opponents. The measure, which tak effect July 1, prohibs classroom stctn on sexual orientatn or genr inty “krgarten through gra 3 or a manner that is not age-appropriate or velopmentally appropriate for stunts acrdance wh state standards.” Siar bills are beg nsired 19 other stat, acrdg to the Movement Advancement Project, an LGBTQ thk tank that has been trackg the bills.</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Gov. Ron DeSantis shows an image om the children's book" height="1667" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer">Gov. Ron DeSantis shows an image om the children's book "Call Me Max" by transgenr thor Kyle Loff before signg the Parental Rights Edutn bill Shady Hills, Fla. on March 28.</span><span class="ptn__source">Douglas R. Clifford / Tampa Bay Tim via AP file</span></figptn></figure><p class="">Advot of Florida’s bill say s purpose is to allow parents to ci how and when LGBTQ topics are troduced to their children. Opponents say hurts the very children advot are tryg to protect. Sam Am, director of advocy and ernment affairs at The Trevor Project, a queer youth advocy group, <a href=">said a statement</a> that the bill will “erase young LGBTQ stunts across Florida, forcg many back to the closet by policg their inty and silencg important discsns about the issu they face.” </p><p class="">Historians say they’ve seen this before. </p><p class="">“It’s a ntemporary versn on the olr attempts to annul homosexualy,” said <a href=">Lillian Farman</a>, thor of “The Gay Revolutn,” among other queer history tl.</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><p class="">“In the prent environment, you n’t go after homosexual teachers anymore,” Farman said. “We have too many alli. And so Florida has found another way to do by this ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill, which don’t go after homosexual teachers precisely. But the ia is the same. That is, that homosexualy is a pariah stat, and shouldn’t be discsed the public schools.” </p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Ana Bryant" height="1650" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer">Sger-turned-polil activist Ana Bryant speaks at a news nference Miami Beach, Fla. on June 7, 1977.</span><span class="ptn__source">Bettmann via Getty Imag file</span></figptn></figure><p class="">When Bryant began her mpaign 1977, she had four children, and often said she was speakg as a mother and a Christian. And while the villaizatn of LGBTQ people was not new, Bryant took the ia of protectg children and ma mastream. Her mpaign and the subsequent “Save Our Children” polil aln ed the argument that “homosexuals nnot reproduce, so they mt rec. And to hen their ranks, they mt rec the youth of Ameri.” </p><p class="">Bryant’s foc on the ia that LGBTQ people were threateng to children created a talkg pot that social nservativ were able to rally around and promote to their iends and neighbors. Bryant paired this wh her Christian fah, tellg <a href=">Playboy</a> magaze 1978 that her posn “was not taken out of homophobia, but out of love” for gay people. When a gay activist threw a pie her face durg a news nference, she immediately prayed for the man to be “livered om his viant liftyle.”</p><sectn class="embed-widget embedWidget embed-widget--medium"><div class="embed-widget__e-prentatn embed-widget__iamely-youtube" style="--iame-height:0px"><div><div class="iamely-youtube iamely-player iamely-embed"><div class="iamely-rponsive" style="paddg-bottom: 75%;"><iame data-src=" loadg="lazy" src="//" allowfullscreen scrollg="no" allow="accelerometer *; clipboard-wre *; encrypted-media *; gyrospe *; picture--picture *;"></iame></div></div></div></div></sectn><p class="">“Deviance” was part of Bryant’s re argument that homosexualy was evil and that LGBTQ people didn’t serve rights. To award them nondiscrimatn protectn was to offer them a kd of special privilege. If we label homosexualy a civil rights issue, what is to stop “<a href=">the murrer om shoutg ‘murrer rights’”?</a> Bryant wrote her 1977 book, “The Ana Bryant Story: The Survival of Our Natn’s Fai and the Threat of Milant Homosexualy.”</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><p class="">Bryant’s work rulted the repeal of the Da County nondiscrimatn ordance, by a more than 2-to-1 marg, a voter referendum. Its repeal ed a backlash other stat that had passed siar ordanc, and Bryant’s fame grew. She took her msage across the untry, and for the next three years was named “The Most Admired Woman Ameri” Good Hoekeepg’s annual poll.</p><p class="">While Bryant fueled the ia that gays were harmful to children, the blueprt for this type of rhetoric had been laid nearly 20 years before, also the state of Florida.</p><sectn class="le-vio le-vio---body"><div class="le-vio__background"><div class="le-vio__player"><div class="vioPlayer styl_vioPlayer__bL8AJ styl_adNotPlayg__Q51_C styl_alignDktopBottom__4cHaO styl_alignMobileBottom__bhgkQ"><div class="vioSlate"><a href=" class="allowClicksOnPreview"><picture class=""><source media="(m-width: 1240px)" srcSet="><source media="(m-width: 758px)" srcSet="><img loadg="lazy" src="></picture></a><div class="playButtonOuter absolute absolute-fill w100 dn-prt"><div class="absolute absolute-fill w100 df ems-center ems-center-m jtify-center jtify-center-m"><div class="play le-vio__play-button"><svg class="play--in" xmlns=" viewBox="0 0 15 15" prerveAspectRat="xMidYMid" style="max-width:30px"><path d="M0 0v15l15-7.41z" fill-le="evenodd"></path></svg></div></div></div></div><div id="137664581787"></div></div></div></div><div class="le-vio__"><h2 class="le-vio__tle"><a href=">1977: Ana Bryant vot to repeal Da County’s gay rights law</a></h2><span class="le-vio__tail"><span>June 7, 1977</span><span>01:17</span></span><div class="styl_share__n3Syu le-vio__share dn-prt"><div class="styl_shareExpanr__hVk8d le-vio__share-expanr styl_hoverEffect___Dj4s"><span class="styl_shareDot__9pfRZ le-vio__share-dot"></span><svg class="styl_shareClose__6BZxR le-vio__share-close" viewBox="0 0 15 15"><le class="styl_shareLe__EJUjO" x1="0" x2="15" y1="0" y2="15"></le><le class="styl_shareLe__EJUjO" x1="0" x2="15" y1="15" y2="0"></le></svg></div><div class="styl_shareList___M8wC le-vio__share-list"><a href=" class="styl_shareLk__gSGN3" target="_blank" rel="noopen noreferrer"><span class="in in-facebook styl_shareIn__lVnRm le-vio__share-in"></span></a><a href=" class="styl_shareLk__gSGN3" target="_blank" rel="noopen noreferrer"><span class="in in-twter styl_shareIn__lVnRm le-vio__share-in"></span></a><a href="mailto:?subject=1977: Ana Bryant vot to repeal Da County’s gay rights law& class="styl_shareLk__gSGN3" target="_blank" rel="noopen noreferrer"><span class="in in-email styl_shareIn__lVnRm le-vio__share-in"></span></a></div></div></div></sectn><p class="">The Florida Legislative Invtigatn Commtee (monly referred to as the Johns Commtee, after Charley Johns, s first chairman) was tablished 1956, and was born out of opposn to the segregatn of schools and the pursu of “munists.” The mtee first targeted the NAACP but was stopped by the Supreme Court. The mtee then turned to vtigatg alleged munists Florida schools, but was stopped by the Amerin Associatn of Universy Profsors. They need a new target, and the fall of 1958, the mtee began to vtigate — and elimate — LGBTQ people om Florida schools. There was no urt and no associatn to protect them. The mtee was well-fund by taxpayer dollars. School prcipals and universy prints operated. </p><div class="remend-tersectn-ref" data-activy-map="remend-article-body-remend"></div><p class="">“Charley Johns’s argument was that of, the homosexuals are pervertg our youth bee they’re teachg our youth llege, and high school, and elementary school, and we have to get rid of them so they won’t turn young people to homosexuals,” Farman said. From 1958 to 1965, hundreds — if not thoands — of stunts and teachers were targeted, wh many losg their livelihoods. </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><p class="">Though the mtee was terred om s vtigatn to the NAACP, s roots opposn to segregatn and s evolutn om racist opposn to homophobic opprsn is clear, historians say. </p><p class="">“The Christian right really together on enforcg segregatn the 1960s. It’s about anti-Black racism; that’s largely where starts. And they’ve h on this ia that they’re protectg children and tn,” said Hugh Ryan, a historian and thor of “When Brooklyn Was Queer.” “They realize that this works, that this is the issue that will create a ‘polil moral majory.’” </p><p class="">By the time we get to Ana Bryant 1977, Ryan said, “they’ve already realized that they n harns this polil nservatism and attach to relign by talkg about the fay.” </p><h2 class=""><strong>Bryant 'won the battle' but lost 'the war'</strong></h2><p class="">Though the Da County ordance was repealed, opposn to the bill led to a kd of LGBTQ activism that had not been prevly seen South Florida. </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><p class="">“The thg to remember is that Ana Bryant won that battle ially, but she did not w that war,” said the historian Jul Capó Jr., a native Floridian, who wrote “Wele to Fairyland: Queer Miami Before 1940.”  </p><p class="">He said Bryant advertently spurred a mobilizatn and a movement. </p><p class="">“It was transformative,” Capó said. “It got people to see themselv as a votg bloc. It got them to see that their very existence and their rights were very much unr attack a different way than we had seen the prr.” </p><sectn class="le-vio le-vio---body"><div class="le-vio__background"><div class="le-vio__player"><div class="vioPlayer styl_vioPlayer__bL8AJ styl_adNotPlayg__Q51_C styl_alignDktopBottom__4cHaO styl_alignMobileBottom__bhgkQ"><div class="vioSlate"><a href=" class="allowClicksOnPreview"><picture class=""><source media="(m-width: 1240px)" srcSet="><source media="(m-width: 758px)" srcSet="><img loadg="lazy" src="></picture></a><div class="playButtonOuter absolute absolute-fill w100 dn-prt"><div class="absolute absolute-fill w100 df ems-center ems-center-m jtify-center jtify-center-m"><div class="play le-vio__play-button"><svg class="play--in" xmlns=" viewBox="0 0 15 15" prerveAspectRat="xMidYMid" style="max-width:30px"><path d="M0 0v15l15-7.41z" fill-le="evenodd"></path></svg></div></div></div></div><div id="137664069755"></div></div></div></div><div class="le-vio__"><h2 class="le-vio__tle"><a href=">1977: After victory at polls, Ana Bryant discs takg anti-gay mpaign on the road</a></h2><span class="le-vio__tail"><span>June 8, 1977</span><span>01:18</span></span><div class="styl_share__n3Syu le-vio__share dn-prt"><div class="styl_shareExpanr__hVk8d le-vio__share-expanr styl_hoverEffect___Dj4s"><span class="styl_shareDot__9pfRZ le-vio__share-dot"></span><svg class="styl_shareClose__6BZxR le-vio__share-close" viewBox="0 0 15 15"><le class="styl_shareLe__EJUjO" x1="0" x2="15" y1="0" y2="15"></le><le class="styl_shareLe__EJUjO" x1="0" x2="15" y1="15" y2="0"></le></svg></div><div class="styl_shareList___M8wC le-vio__share-list"><a href=" class="styl_shareLk__gSGN3" target="_blank" rel="noopen noreferrer"><span class="in in-facebook styl_shareIn__lVnRm le-vio__share-in"></span></a><a href=" class="styl_shareLk__gSGN3" target="_blank" rel="noopen noreferrer"><span class="in in-twter styl_shareIn__lVnRm le-vio__share-in"></span></a><a href="mailto:?subject=1977: After victory at polls, Ana Bryant discs takg anti-gay mpaign on the road& class="styl_shareLk__gSGN3" target="_blank" rel="noopen noreferrer"><span class="in in-email styl_shareIn__lVnRm le-vio__share-in"></span></a></div></div></div></sectn><p class="">The activism spread om Da County and across the untry, phg agast Bryant’s own “Christian csa,” as she lled . In 1977, the -executive directors of the Natnal Gay Task Force wrote a thank you <a href="> The New York Tim</a> to Bryant and her Save Our Children anizatn, sayg they were “dog the 20 ln lbians and gay men Ameri an enormo favor: They are focg for the public the nature of the prejudice and discrimatn we face.” </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><p class="">Though Bryant did enjoy some addnal years of fame, her anti-gay rhetoric ultimately ed her reer prospects to plummet. Her bookg agent dropped her, the Florida Cs Commissn stopped nng her orange juice ads and she filed for bankptcy — twice. The anti-discrimatn ordance she helped repeal 1977 <a href=">was rtored 1998</a>.</p><p class="">And today, even though state legislators ntue to chip away at LGBTQ rights, same-sex marriage is legal across the untry and feral law prohibs anti-LGBTQ discrimatn the workplace.</p><figure class="styl_leImage__yAWZ0 styl_medium__OMa6x"><picture class="styl_image__1qciH"><source media="(m-width: 1000px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="Image: People celebrate ont of the Supreme Court after the lg favor of same-sex marriage June 26, 2015." height="1667" width="2500"/></picture><figptn class="ptn styl_ptn__Pe5JC"><span class="ptn__ntaer">People celebrate ont of the Supreme Court after the lg favor of same-sex marriage on June 26, 2015.</span><span class="ptn__source">Mark Wilson / Getty Imag file</span></figptn></figure><p class="">Though the tim have changed signifintly sce Bryant’s heyday the late ‘70s, appears her views have not. In 2021, Bryant’s granddghter Sarah Green <a href=">told Slate</a> that she me out to her grandmother on her 21st birthday. Bryant reportedly rpond by sayg homosexualy isn’t real. </p><p class="">“It’s very hard to argue wh someone who thks that an tegral part of your inty is jt an evil ln,” Green said. Green, <a href=">who clarified to </a><a href="><em></em></a> that she is bisexual, told Slate about her upg weddg to her fiancée, a woman, and said she wasn’t sure if her grandmother would be attendg.  </p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100"></div></div><p class="">“I jt kd of feel bad for her,” Green add. “And I thk as much as she hop that I will figure thgs out and e back to God, I kd of hope that she’ll figure thgs out.”</p><div class="remend-tersectn-ref" data-activy-map="remend-article-body-remend"></div><p class="">Bryant, now 82, no longer liv Florida. She returned to her home state of Oklahoma and ns Ana Bryant Mistri Internatnal. 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