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Donatella Giagnori / Camera Prs / Rx</span></div></figure></div><p class="has-dropp has-dropp__lead-standard-headg paywall">Can the Catholic Church bls same-sex unns? On March 15th, the Congregatn for the Doctre of the Fah, the <a href=">Vatin</a> office that f and articulat Church teachg, issued a brief “rponsum” to the qutn, which has e up untri—notably, Germany—where same-sex marriage is legal. The C.D.F.’s answer was a sgle word: “Negative.” But there was an “explanatory note,” which, employg the C.D.F.’s lofty and airls ternal logic, said that blsgs are “sacred signs that remble the sacraments,” such as marriage, which, God’s plan, found “scribed creatn,” is between a man and a woman. Bee same-sex unns nnot, therefore, be marriag, to bls them would be to give sacramental regnn to sexual relatnships outsi of marriage, which the Church, technilly, regards as a s all s. Therefore, bee God “do not and nnot bls s,” the Church nnot bls same-sex unns—and even the “posive elements” same-sex unns nnot “jtify the relatnships.”</p><p class="paywall">The rponsum was no great surprise, but s absolutizg language was, bee ns unter to <a href=">Pope Francis</a>’s emphasis on the Church as an agent ls of judgment than of mercy. It brought to md a pair of earlier C.D.F. statements whose nmnatory language sparked anger and ntroversy. One, lled “On the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons,” was issued 1986—a grim year the <em class="small">AIDS</em> crisis—and clared homosexualy “a more or ls strong tenncy orred toward an trsic moral evil.” The other, “Dom I,” issued 2000, durg the papacy of John Pl II, emed religns other than Catholicism “gravely ficient.” That text was so at odds wh John Pl’s plans to mark the new lennium through events wh other relig lears that was seen as an effort to re him .</p><p class="paywall">In terviews and on social media after the new rponsum was released, people the Church who support Pope Francis timated that don’t reflect his posn. Why, then, did he let e out? They ced var extenuatg circumstanc: Francis is the head of a global Church, not jt of the Church progrsive Europe. He is practicg realpolik—throwg tradnalists a bone so as to keep their support on other issu. He was outfoxed by the cleril burecrats of the C.D.F., who met surreptly to draft the document and then phed through while he was by preparg for his long-anticipated trip to Iraq. Gerard O’Connell, who is the Vatin rrponnt for the Ju magaze <em>Ameri</em> and knows the Pope well—O’Connell is married to the Rome-based Argente journalist Elisabetta Piqué, and Francis baptized their two children—sisted on the magaze’s “Insi the Vatin” podst that, given the circumstanc, cricism of the rponsum is “really very unfair to the Pope.”</p><p class="paywall">Circumstanc don’t dimish eher the stg of the document or the Pope’s rponsibily for , however. Although Francis has never supported gay marriage, he has shown a strikg openns to same-sex partnerships. Shortly after his electn, 2013, he famoly said, of gay prits believed to be high posns the Vatin, “If someone is gay and he search for the Lord and he has good will, who am I to judge?” In 2019, he spoke support of legal protectn for same-sex upl, a remark that me to light through the Vatin-approved film “Franc,” which tells of him enuragg a gay uple he knows to raise their three children as Catholics a Rome parish, even as he remd them that “not all people will share your choice of havg a fay like that.” (The film will be released onle on March 28th.)</p><p class="paywall">The rponsum, signed by the C.D.F.’s prefect, Cardal Luis Ladaria, stat only that the Pope “was rmed and gave his assent” to s publitn—an ditn, some say, that reflects the C.D.F.’s views more than Francis’s. But, as the Pope, Francis has full thory over the doctral office and plenty of ways to exercise . Ladaria, a Spaniard, is a fellow Ju, and when Francis promoted him, 2017 (replacg Gerhard Müller, whom Pope Benedict XVI, Müller’s iend and fellow German, had appoted 2012), the move was seen as an effort to brg the C.D.F. more le wh his own prerogativ. The ia that Francis was too by to read the rponsum and nsir s nsequenc don’t seem credible, eher. The statement is jt a thoand words long and is dated Febary 22nd—twelve days before Francis left for Iraq—and his schle Febary was light, as has been throughout the <a href=">panmic</a>. On Febary 19th, for example, he had time to meet—and to bls—the managers and players of U.C. Sampdoria, a Genoa soccer club.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p class="paywall">Neher is persuasive to suggt that qutns volvg same-sex unns are specific to Europe and the Uned Stat. Francis has strsed that the Church mt go to “the margs”—the peripheri—and strive to “acpany” the people fds there on their spirual journeys, through a willgns to “enunter” them their specific personal circumstanc. To suggt that qutns volvg same-sex unns should be downplayed bee gay-rights issu are ma margal societi around the world is to fy Francis’s own logic.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p class="paywall">Above all, takg a dismissive tone on qutns volvg L.G.B.T.Q. people the Church, the C.D.F. embolns men church learship posns to do likewise. Last Tuday, Cardal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, voted a segment of his weekly podst to the ntroversy. In a ramblg, sual nversatn wh a monsignor om Long Island, Dolan spoke of the rponsum solely as a reaffirmatn of the tradnal view of marriage. “That a’t news. . . . That’s as old as the hills,” he said, notg that “the Catholic Church reaffirms the Biblil teachg, as, by the way, the Orthodox Jews, and Mlims, and the evangelils do.” He add, “I don’t get ,” and bemoaned the sense “that we need to change timels teachg to ‘keep up’ wh the chic e du jour. . . . Please, change the subject!” At no pot did Dolan refer to gay people, much ls extend to them the “rpect and sensivy” that the rponsum self lls for. For Dolan, and bishops like him, same-sex issu seem to ve exasperatn and ntempt.</p><p class="paywall">Some prelat did register rervatns about the document or sought to soften s language. “The unrstandable reactn among many to this rponse will be disappotment,” Cardal Blase Cupich, of Chigo, said a statement. “This should prompt the Church and the archdce to redouble our efforts to be creative and rilient fdg ways to wele and enurage all LGBTQ people our fay of fah.” Archbishop Mark Coleridge, of Brisbane, Atralia, said, “It’s one thg to say we n’t bls same-sex unns. Well, let’s then m ourselv to grapplg wh the qutn about how else we might clu same-sex upl.” Bishop Johan Bonny, of Antwerp, claimed that the reasong the document “do not even reach the level of high school.” Bishops Germany sisted that they will explore the qutn further. In the Uned Stat, meanwhile, nety-five Catholic stutns and thirteen bishops have lent their support to a public statement that has been circulatn sce January, which tells L.G.B.T.Q. youth that “God is on your si.”</p><p class="paywall">This past Sunday, Pope Francis, durg his weekly addrs to the fahful, spoke cryptilly of the need for Catholics to live out their fah “not wh fleetg words but through ncrete, simple, and urageo exampl; not wh theoretil nmnatns but wh gtur of love.” Gerard O’Connell reported on <em>Ameri</em>’s Web se that “rmed sourc” had told him that they believe Francis was alludg to the rponsum. Surely, he was. For the moment, though, the claratn the rponsum that God “do not and nnot bls s” hovers over the liv of L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics. Michael O’Loughl, the thor of a forthg book about Catholics durg the <em class="small">AIDS</em> crisis, observed that the passage is an equivalent of the “trsic moral evil” of the 1986 C.D.F. statement—“a few words that feel as if they were chosen to wound—and, based on the reactn by L.G.B.T. Catholics, they did.”</p><p class="paywall">At the moment, there’s no clear way forward om the current C.D.F. statement. In a prev role at the Vatin, Cardal Ladaria, the C.D.F. prefect, was tasked wh reëvaluatg the Church’s old teachg on Limbo, the place (rather than Heaven) where children go if they die unbaptized. The new rponsum, effect, leav L.G.B.T.Q. Catholics limbo, tryg to make sense of a Church that will not ign to bls their liv. And suggts that, on matters of marriage and sexualy, Pope Francis’s pontifite, too, is a kd of limbo—unable to acpany people on the margs, bee the Church self is dog the margalizg, and stymied by juridil formulas so heartls that the Pope wds up tryg to distance himself om them.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR daRVRt persistent-asi" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box ArticlePageSplAdRail-OyjwD jikppc"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailContent-jsltpq iZDmmY spl-ad-rail-ntent"><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailTop-jUrrVY jzzFg"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="ad08"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailMiddle-tiRvu hiZeZX spl-ad-rail-middle"></div><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailBottom-dBKMGQ jmCMsn spl-ad-rail-bottom"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="m1mj8e"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS kLQIUk grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__le-barrier article__body"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"><asi class="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper-iBnuqk lfXXa-D" data-ttid="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper"><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--paywall-le-barrier" role="prentatn" aria-live="pole" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--paywall-le-barrier"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></asi></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ContentWrapperGrid-fvkmBv brYtrA grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__ntaer"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"></div></div></div></div></div></div></article><div class="ContentFooterWrapper-jVNdRG dTJkpP ArticlePageContentFooterGrid-ccsXYy eMZRHU article-body__footer"><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="ContributorsWrapper-eNpWFu GWFsc ntributors" data-ttid="Contributors"><div class="ContributorBWrapper-bnVHbt gMon"><div class="ContributorBContent-ubQdr jZTSSi"><div class="ContributorBHear-ledood XOIEx"></div><div class="ContributorBB-fBolsO giFhKz"><a href="/ntributors/pl-elie">Pl Elie</a> is a senr fellow at Geetown Universy. 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pope francis stance on gay marriage

By acknowledgg the worth of gay children, Pope Francis may rtore their tst the church.

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THE POPE’S ‘SHOCKG’ STATEMENT ON GAY MARRIAGE IS G AN UPROAR AMONG CATHOLICS

The Vatin said the pope’s statements favor of civil unns for gay upl did not change church doctre. * pope francis stance on gay marriage *

Followg Pope Francis’s announcement clarg support for civil unn laws for same-sex upl, which breaks wh tradnal Catholic valu that oppose homosexual relatnships, the lear has garnered both cricism and support om people all over the world. Most recently, NBC reports that retired Philippe Bishop Arturo Bast mented that he “had very ser doubts about the moral rrectns” of the Pope’s stance on legalizg gay relatnships. While the lear of the Catholic Church exprsed his support for gay civil unns, other branch of the church rema adamant the tradnal Catholic valu.

POPE FRANCIS WON’T BUDGE ON GAY MARRIAGE: “MARRIAGE IS MARRIAGE”

An enuragg note om Pope Francis pped an pecially disorientg week on the Vatin’s stance toward gay rights. * pope francis stance on gay marriage *

Image source, RtersImage ptn, Pope Francis' statements are a parture om prev ments about LGBT rightsPope Francis has said that he thks same-sex upl should be allowed to have "civil unns" ma the ments, which observers say are his cleart remarks yet on gay relatnships, a documentary directed by Evgeny Afeevsky. " He add that he "stood up for that", apparently referrg to his time as Archbishop of Buenos Air when, although opposg same-sex marriag law, he supported some legal protectns for same-sex film Franc, about the life and work of Pope Francis, premiered as part of the Rome Film well as the Pope's ments on civil unns, the film also shows him enuragg two gay men to attend church wh their three Francis's bgrapher, Aten Ivereigh, told the BBC he was "not surprised" by the latt ments. "Unr current Catholic doctre, gay relatnships are referred to as "viant behavur" 2003, the Vatin's doctral body, the Congregatn for the Doctre of the Fah, said that "rpect for homosexual persons nnot lead any way to approval of homosexual behavur or to legal regnn of homosexual unns" words but no sign of doctral changeThe remarks have set tongu waggg among Vatin-watchers - and they mark Francis's cleart support for the issue sce beg Pope.

As archbishop of Buenos Air before beg Pope, he was a stnch opponent of gay marriage, which was legalised Argenta 2010, and stead advoted civil unns for homosexual upl. Every person needs a male father and a female mother that n help them shape their inty" ptn, "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?

" he 2014 was reported that Pope Francis had exprsed support for civil unns for same-sex partners an terview, but the Holy See's prs office nied 2018, Pope Francis said he was "worried" about homosexualy the clergy, and that was "a ser matter" on this story.

POPE FRANCIS SAYS PRITS NNOT BLS SAME-SEX UNNS, DASHG HOP OF GAY CATHOLICS

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He observed if LGBTQ+ folks "want to spend their liv together, a homosexual uple, natns have the possibily civilly to support them, to give them safety wh regards to herance and health" regardls of the church's posn. ”“If they want to spend their liv together, a homosexual uple, natns have the possibily civilly to support them, to give them safety wh regards to herance and health, ” he the subject of civil unns, Francis suggted that wing the spe of who n receive partner benefs uld benef many groups of people.

EXCLUSIVE: TAYLOR MARSHALL SAYS POPE FRANCIS MAY CHANGE POSN OF CATHOLIC CHURCH ON GAY MARRIAGE

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis beme the first pontiff to endorse same-sex civil unns ments for a documentary that premiered Wednday, sparkg cheers om gay Catholics and mands for clarifitn om nservativ, given the Vatin’s official teachg on the issue. * pope francis stance on gay marriage *

“There are absolutely no grounds for nsirg homosexual unns to be any way siar or even remotely analogo to God’s plan for marriage and fay, ” the statement read. AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTVatin Clarifi Pope Francis’s Comments on Same-Sex UnnsThe Vatin said the pope’s statements favor of civil unns for gay upl did not change church Bia/Associated PrsPublished Nov.

2, 2020Updated June 27, 2021ROME — The Vatin has nfirmed the pope’s remarks on gay upl servg civil protectns as sent an explanatory note to bishops unrlg that Francis’s ments did not mark a change church pope’s remarks ma headl last month after they appeared the documentary “Franc, ” at s Oct. Argenta was the first untry Lat Ameri to legalize same-sex the Televisa terview, the rrponnt Valenta Alazraki asked the pope whether his posn on gay marriage had softened upon beg pope.

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class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG Uozmo"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa EOneK body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p class="has-dropp has-dropp__lead-standard-headg">An offhand remark that <a href=">Pope Francis</a> ma about gay people July, 2013, is still the sgle most memorable statement of his pontifite. He ma durg a prs nference on a flight om R to Rome, after a reporter allud to a supposed “gay lobby” at the Vatin. Francis said, “If someone is gay and is searchg for the Lord and has a good will, then who am I to judge him?” That reply, jt four months after his electn, signalled that, as he settled to the office, he wasn’t gog to abandon the joyo spontaney of the first weeks of his tenure. It revealed his personal huy before qutns of human sexualy, and suggted an openns to the liv of gay people that ns strongly unter to Catholic history, Church teachg, and Vatin policy.</p><p class="paywall">Francis’s recently released remarks about same-sex civil unns are que a b more ambiguo. They appear a documentary, “Franc,” ma wh the approval of the Vatin, which had s première on Wednday, at the Rome Film Ftival. Directed by Evgeny Afeevsky, who has ma films about the cris Ukrae and Syria, the documentary follows people whose liv have been affected by the Pope. One sequence volv Andrea Rubera, a gay man who liv Rome wh his partner and their three adopted children. After takg part a Mass at the papal rince, Rubera gave Francis a letter explag that he and his partner hoped to raise the children as Catholics. Francis phoned him, offered enuragement, and told him, as Rubera rells the film, to be aware that, the parish, “not all people will share your choice of havg a fay like that.” Rubera adds, “He didn’t mentn which was his opn about my fay. Probably he is followg the doctre on this pot. But the attu toward people has <em>massively</em> changed.” In the film, Francis is then heard sayg, “Homosexual people have a right to be the fay. They are children of God. They have a right to a fay. Nobody should be thrown out of the fay or ma miserable over this. What we have to make is a law of civil existence, for they have the right to be legally vered. I stood up for that.”</p><div class="ExternalLkEmbedWrapper-hNDkqw cDXXLC" data-ttid="external-lk-embed--le"><div class="ExternalLkEmbedText-glBTSy gRKpCf"><a aria-label="<strong>Print Obama’s New Memoir</strong>" class="external-lk external-lk-embed__hed-lk button" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ExternalLkEmbedHed-dSIMOS iUEiRd zdLg gsZLZF"><strong>Print Obama’s New Memoir</strong></span></a><p class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ExternalLkEmbedDek-btrWcN iUEiRd kxnNhB jwHNCY"><em>Read an excerpt this week’s issue.</em></p></div></div><p class="paywall">Those ments stirred approval om progrsiv and nsternatn om tradnalists. Jam Mart, a Ju prit wh an active mistry to L.G.B.T.Q. people, whom Francis met at the Vatin last year, scribed them on Twter as “historic.” He wrote, “What mak Pope Francis ments supportg same-sex civil unns today so momento? First, he is sayg them as Pope, not Archbishop of Buenos Air. Send, he is clearly supportg, not simply toleratg, civil unns. Third, he is sayg on mera, not privately.” Bishop Thomas Tob, of Province, Rho Island (who, Augt, suated on Twter that the Democratic Printial nomee, <a href=">Joe Bin</a>, isn’t a te Catholic), sought clarifitn om Rome. “The Pope’s statement clearly ntradicts what has been the long-standg teachg of the Church about same-sex unns,” Tob said a statement. “The Church nnot support the acceptance of objectively immoral relatnships.”</p><p class="paywall">Francis’s remarks the film are unclear. Do he mean that gay people should be weled the fai they are raised , or that they should be enuraged their wish to have fai of their own? Do he fear that they’ll be “thrown out” of the Church, or that they’d be treated as outsts civil society? He “stood up for” civil unns when he was an archbishop, and now, as Pope, he says that “we have to make” them, but do this mean that he will put the thory of the papal office behd efforts for civil unns worldwi— Lat Ameri, for stance, where only eight out of thirty-three untri regnize same-sex marriage or civil unns?</p><p class="paywall">It turns out that there’s a reason for the lack of clary: the remarks were reportedly eded, different ways, by both the film’s director and the Vatin. They are drawn om an terview wh the Pope nducted the sprg of 2019, by Valenta Alazraki, a longtime Vatin rrponnt for the Mexin broadster Televisa. At the time, the Vatin (exercisg s ual prerogative) stck the ments about civil unns before clearg the footage for release to Televisa. Afeevsky rporated that stck-out footage to his documentary. A signifint sentence was left out, however, so that Francis is heard approvg of civil unns, but is not heard addg, “That do not mean approvg of homosexual acts, not the least.”</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p class="paywall">Even as he supported civil unns, then, Francis, like his precsors, ma a distctn between gay people (good) and the way that they exprs passn and love (not good). His support is an cremental change, at most. And yet those remarks, bee they make his support for gay civil unns mon knowledge, may have greater practil import the long term than his bold statements about climate change, migrants and refuge, or the global enomy—at the same time that they put a h foc on the tensns the Church’s attu toward the liv of L.G.B.T.Q. people.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p class="paywall">Francis has been scribed turn as a revolutnary Pope, a Lat Amerin socialist, and a Tmp-style dispter. In fact, he is an crementalist, who works small ways, wh gtur and enigmatic pronouncements. In 2018, Francis sent a netieth-birthday greetg to the Pevian theologian Gtavo Gutiérrez, symbolilly brgg the whole movement known as “liberatn theology” om the ld, after s of Vatin scty. The next year, he travelled to the Uned Arab Emirat, beg the first Pope to vis the Arabian Pensula; he celebrated Mass for at least a hundred and thirty-five thoand people, most of them Catholic migrant workers om the Philipp, India, and South Ameri who lack a path to cizenship or protectn om the Mlim untry’s strict anti-blasphemy laws, but he did not addrs eher issue publicly durg his two-day vis.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p class="paywall">On matters of human sexualy, though, n be argued that Francis’s crementalism is vexg to the pot of beg herent. Church teachg holds that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that gay sex is sful for a number of reasons—for example, bee is sex outsi what the Church regards as a properly nstuted marriage, and bee, not beg orred toward procreatn, is “ntrary to the creative wisdom of God.” It is “a more or ls strong tenncy orred toward an trsic moral evil,” the words of a document issued by the Vatin October, 1986—at a grave moment the <em class="small">AIDS</em> epimic for gay men the Uned Stat—which unselled people wh the homosexual “ndn” to live chastely and to jo the “suffergs and difficulti” brought on to those of Christ on the Cross.</p><p class="paywall">More than thirty years later, neher progrsive Catholics nor tradnalists actually envisn a world which large numbers of gay people will live mted same-sex relatnships but will shun sexual activy as an “trsic moral evil.” Francis, then, has plited the Church’s posn rather than clarified , and he did an terview, rather than wh an encyclil or a Vatin nference.</p><p class="paywall">There are good reasons for him to act crementally, and offhandly, rather than directly. For one thg, his efforts to advance bold objectiv through the formal stctur of the papacy—on climate change, immigratn, or e equaly—have met wh somethg ls than acclamatn om the Catholic populace. For another, the Church’s unrstandg of L.G.B.T.Q. people n’t simply be changed by papal cree. The qutns of human sexualy are no ls plex than those of the enomy or the environment. And seems, on some level, that Francis’s strenuo efforts to addrs tractable global problems serve to draw attentn away om the problem near at hand—namely, that, when to sexualy, the Church’s acunt of the human person is as superannuated as trickle-down enomics and al-burng power plants.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR daRVRt persistent-asi" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="qg1z"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="otvjj"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa EOneK body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p class="paywall">It’s possible, of urse, that Francis is wholeheartedly behd Church teachg, nvced that gay people should live chastely—cludg those the civil unns he supports the documentary. If that’s the se, he uld simply say so, and put the qutn of his mments to rt. But may be that, supportg those unns, he is acknowledgg that the Church needs to revise s unrstandg of gay people. Wilton Gregory, the archbishop of Washgton, D.C., who was named the first Ain-Amerin rdal by the Pope on Sunday, wrote 2014, while archbishop of Atlanta, that “the distctn that our Church mak between orientatn and behavr” is one “which admtedly needs reexamatn and velopment.” A full regnn of gay people will have profound nsequenc for the Church’s teachgs about marriage, the fay, personhood, bethics, celibacy, sex among the clergy—about human sexualy on the whole. At some pot, the Church is gog to have to addrs all directly, through an encyclil letter, or a synod, or even an ecumenil uncil on the human person—a Vatin III, which would brg the Church to the twenty-first century as Vatin II brought , belatedly, to the twentieth.</p><p class="paywall">The words that Francis said back 2013—“Who am I to judge?”—are on by which he, himself, will be judged. He will turn eighty-four December. A uncil on the human person is likely a project for a succsor. Meanwhile, his crementalist approach mak sense only if he keeps Catholicism movg the right directn, toward regnizg gay people the ways that they regnize themselv. It may be stretchg crly to see his remarks support of same-sex civil unns as a means to the eventual end of the full embrace of gay people. 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