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class="display-tle jsx-1062180250" data-cy="article-headle">Interview: Val Kilmer and Robert Downey, Jr.</h1><h2 class="tle3 jsx-2866659985" data-cy="article-sub-headle">IGN FilmForce talks to the highly animated duo. </h2><div id="p-article-below-hear" class="jsx-3647225544 piano-template-placeholr wh-shadow"></div></div><div class="jsx-1897904587 page-ntent"><sectn class="jsx-3528870638 byle"><div class="stack jsx-816329128 byle-stack"><div class="stack jsx-1752463718 article-thors"><div class="ptn jsx-1189612256">By <span class="jsx-3953721931 article-thor">Jeff Otto</span></div></div><div class="jsx-3176214726 divir"></div><div class="ptn jsx-1189612256">Updated: <!-- -->May 18, 2012 7:05 pm</div><div class="jsx-3176214726 divir"></div><div class="ptn jsx-1189612256">Posted: <!-- -->Oct 25, 2005 3:49 pm</div></div><div class="jsx-4050243981 divir"></div></sectn><div id="p-article-below-hear-image" class="jsx-3606872557 piano-template-placeholr wh-shadow"></div></div><div 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But that's okay, <a href=" target="_blank" class="jsx-955973305 unrled" class="tolk" rel="noopener noreferrer">Robert Downey, Jr</a>. and <a href=" target="_blank" class="jsx-955973305 unrled" class="tolk" rel="noopener noreferrer">Val Kilmer</a> are not your average actors. In wrer/director Shane Black's new actn/thriller/edy/hard-boiled tective story, the l of the game are paid homage too, mocked, then turned on their head. Kilmer plays a gay private eye affectnately known as Gay Perry. Downey, Jr. is an unwtg fellow named Harry who accintally stumbl to Perry's world. Harry may talk tough and look nfint at first, but 's really Gay Perry who's the mcle. Michelle Monaghan is the curvy sctrs wh the cute face. <div class="jsx-303009029 adun-wrapper"><div class="jsx-303009029 bobble bobble-0 pogot pg-article"><div data-mix-name="mediumAd" data-pos="0" data-pogo-hi="1" class="jsx-343126785 pogo-slot"></div></div></div> <br/> Almost as if they had simply strolled to the Four Seasons directly om the <em>Kiss Kiss</em> set, the pair of rpected, gifted actors played off each other like a perfectly planned route. IGN FilmForce tried their bt to keep up, but Downey, Jr. and Kilmer often took the reigns for a b themselv and nducted their own terview. <br/> <br/> <br/> <div data-cy="accent-divir" class="jsx-2008757641 divir"></div> <br/> <br/> <strong>VAL KILMER:</strong> Ladi and gentlemen, wele to the Four Seasons. [Kilmer motns to Robert Downey, Jr., who enters behd him] Robert Downey Jr. If there was somethg that you liked the film, I wrote . And if you were jt markg time, Robert wrote . Shane did nothg. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: What was like for you two to kiss each other? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I loved . He plaed, plaed, plaed. <br/> <br/> <strong>ROBERT DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I did. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: What was bad about ? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> The tongue. Well he smok, he cha smok. No breath mts. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> He smelled like the breath of a jackal. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Not te, not te. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I don't know why he saved jackal breath for our kissg scene. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> It was fe, was fe. I've never kissed a guy before except for Col Farrell a movie. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: But that was father and son. </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Yeah, so that was weird when he slipped me the tongue. And Robert is a better kisser… I thk he b my lip. He's angry. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> What's the movie we did together last year? <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I don't remember. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Why don't we talk about that? <em>Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang</em>. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Oh, you want to talk about bee you're the lead. <br/> <br/> <output class="box-wrapper jsx-537794787"><figure class="jsx-3954765903"><span><img dg="async" alt="" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te" src=" class="jsx-2920405963 progrsive-image article-image jsx-2407332289 jsx-3166191823 round loadg"/></span><figptn class="ptn jsx-1673551436 article-image-ptn"><br/><b><center>Two happy guys wh guns</center></b></figptn></figure></output> <strong>Q: Robert's the lead, but you save the day. </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> He do, steals the movie. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I don't. Oh, I take a bullet... <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Val Kilmer is the happit person I have ever seen on a set. He is basilly havg a day and there happens to be a movie beg shot as well. It's great, 's that kd of tachment that we all, you know. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Well was the role as well. My guy is ntrol, he jt don't like you. That's about , right? And I loved Michelle. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> We love Michelle. We loved Shane too by the way. We're pleased as punch wh this. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I am happy wh Shane bee you already knew you were good, but Shane didn't know he was good. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: Do you know anyone like your character, that kd of down on his luck guy? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I was New York Hell's Kchen on the phone, somehow someone had actually paid the bill that month; probably my roommate John Melfi who now produc <em>Sex and the Cy</em> or did produce, talkg to Sarah Jsi Parker and she go, 'What are you dog? What's your place like?' I said 'It's a loft, I'm jt makg a ltle quiche.' Hung up the phone I was like Riggs <em>Lethal Weapon</em> and I got lled up to LA, so I didn't have to steal om shoe stor or work clubs anymore. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> You worked clubs? <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Yeah, you knew I stole om shoe stor. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: What do you thk of the twist on the leadg male actn hero? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I thk 's timely. I thk 's difficult and unfair for people to image that they are supposed to relate to the unflappable, almost, the ials have been pretty high. Post-war stuff, even like our Dad's seem like the guys who were jt tougher and oler and saw more and were more pable than we were and 's not that kd of party. I'm not sayg that 'Harry' is a dummy but he is someone who sentially is… <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I'm sayg he's a dummy. I'm sayg that straight up. At least the way you played him. That was very, very satisfyg jt to watch Robert who is so smart, have to be squished to this simple character. You jt had to take everyday, didn't you? <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Yeah, I didn't md. I'm a lot more stupid than I knew. [Lghs] <br/> <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: So we keep readg about how you guys really h off. </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Don't you hate that? <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Wouldn't be great if we never spoke? That's the <em>Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang</em> versn after everythg I go 'You are a son of a bch.' He go 'You blow me.' <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: How was Shane directg for the first time? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> He is very lm. I probably went to Robert immediately when I saw was lm borrg on atose. I thought well he's er the headlights, he's ozen, we were trouble. It was simply that he was that well prepared and he never changed really. He never raised his voice once. And 's a tratg job. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Y he did. I'm jt gog to give you the unterpot. There is a scene where you're not this part of the movie. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Oh, well, that's why I don't re. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> My iend Flicka is at the airport and I say this and that and I get the rmatn that keeps me om leavg town. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> She is cute. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: The stewarss? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> The stewarss, and he was tryg to get her supped up for the scene and he go 'Come on! Energy! Energy! [Lip blowg noise]' and he turns around and he walks to a key light, brgs down the entire scrim. [Lghs] I mean was like was Bter Keaton, the whole f****** set fell down. And was like well, uh, that would be cut. Greatt thg I ever saw. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: What did you guys like bt about one another? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I always like a good lgh and Robert is very, very funny. I thk one of my favore thgs about Robert is his observatns. We'll s wh someone and have dner and the thg that he se that person, their character, and I was stg there jt as long as he was and 's variably tertg and entertag and he ually says an tertg way. He's a ltle off today, but [Lghs] that's my favore part. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I thk he mak, 's like anythg, when you say, 'How did you know you guys were gog to be bt iends?' We didn't, you know? It happened and was like, 'Oh we jt like get each other.' And 's really nice as opposed to manufacturg chemistry or knowg 's not there and gog 'Oh well, this n never work.' <br/> <br/> <output class="box-wrapper jsx-537794787"><figure class="jsx-3954765903"><span><img dg="async" alt="" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te" src=" class="jsx-2920405963 progrsive-image article-image jsx-2407332289 jsx-3166191823 round loadg"/></span><figptn class="ptn jsx-1673551436 article-image-ptn"><br/><b><center>Up to no good</center></b></figptn></figure></output> <strong>Q: Robert plays a guy who is beiend by the girl he's really obssed wh. Have you ever experienced that? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Been there, yep. Drew Davis was her name, Matt Dillon was her flame. [Lghs] He me back to me one day and said 'Hey Robert, I was bangg Drew last night and I jt don't even know if I am even that to her anymore.' I wanted to tear his eye out. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I had a party London and I asked Robert if he would md if I ved Mickey Rourke and he said 'No, I don't md. He put a h out on me once but you n ve him.' Cse of a lady. Did you guy talk? Did you patch up? <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> He didn't e to the party, Val. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> He did too. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Oh, well, I'd left already bee I'm early to bed, early to rise. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> My first girliend high school, I had a girliend gra school, but my first girliend high school was Mare Wngham, very fe actrs. Chatsworth High, she went right out of high school, started workg. Movie of the Week Queen, she was for about a . <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: Val, what drew you to this part? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Well I sure had been lookg for a edy for years whout any succs. Partly bee the town is jt ficky, there are strange Catch 22 cls the nscns of this muny and one of them was that you, I found out, you n't do a edy unls you've jt done a edy. They won't let you. So some that I uld do jt weren't tertg… <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I was nervo though bee was one of those thgs where this… <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Well, if the movie didn't work, would be your flt. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Yeah, I read <em>Wonr Boys</em> and I said 'Wow, this uld never turn out as well as the script that I jt read.' And as often as not… <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> That's the Michael Douglas starrer. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Yeah. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Starrer. I'm learng the lgo. <br/> <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: How tough is to fd longevy this town? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Well, I'd like to take that for both of , Robert. It's really darn near impossible... It's a tough, tough bs and there is always somebody else g up and they will work for ee and there is no baggage and everybody is exced about , everybody wants the guy that everyone is exced about. Col Farrell now, who is a iend, has jt worked wh 10 really tertg people: Michael Mann, Robert Towne, who never mak movi? Terrence Malick. Oliver Stone, those are the last four guys, I mean, you live your life to work wh one of those guys once and he's jt, 's been three years, they are sayg he's the guy and there is always gog to be another one. So for both of , we eher know people like Sean Penn who thanked the Robert Downey Jr.'s when he won an Osr, which was very wonrful, or who have disappeared. Guys that uldn't get arrted. <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: Val, tell a b about your character. I wasn't sure at first if he was good or bad. </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> Yeah, he's not eher. He's a ltle jad now and there's a lot of guys a lot of different partments the film bs who've got two giant forty-thoand dollar, eighty-thoand dollar tcks and a hoe Hawaii and you don't even know what they do on the set. They make a very good livg the movi. He's a, you know talkg through wh Shane, cid that he was a good tective, but now he's got this nice niche like technil advisors do. I had one great one on a movie and one not so great one that were gun experts. The good one has probably ma a ln bucks now and he's only been the movi for 10 years, havg really killed people and all that. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> But Gay Perry says and this is another ttament to Shane Black aga, he says and that was the first scene we shot, 'I'm not a nice man Harry. Merry Christmas, sorry I f***** you over.' Or whatever and leav. It's so weird that the script or, the whatever, the executn was crafted a way where that meant somethg and he do have that crisis of nsc and he mak good on . <br/> <br/> <strong>Q: Would you guys be up for returng to the rol? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I'd love to. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> No, I don't want a anchise that I'm the lead . [Lghs] <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> He gets the girl, he's funny, he's sweet. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> I have a feelg, this is the sh***y part, only my world would this happen, 'Robert we're dog a sequel except this time, 's really more Perry's show. Now you work for him Robert… <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> It should jt be a per though, right? <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> Maybe, like <em>Oceans 12</em>. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> No, not like <em>Oceans 12</em>. <br/> <br/> <output class="box-wrapper jsx-537794787"><figure class="jsx-3954765903"><span><img dg="async" alt="" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te" src=" class="jsx-2920405963 progrsive-image article-image jsx-2407332289 jsx-3166191823 round loadg"/></span><figptn class="ptn jsx-1673551436 article-image-ptn"><br/><b><center>Playg the timidatn game</center></b></figptn></figure></output> <strong>Q: Val, what was like playg a gay character? </strong> <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> How did ee me, is that what you want to know? [Lghs] I'm wearg red socks! [Lghs] I jt lghed, 's jt funny. The 3rd or 4th page once we've met and they are sayg jt the weirst banter g down the steps, I had that guy John Miller go 'I got five bucks that says you uld probably still fd that guy, probably get together.' I go 'Oh yeah, I got a quarter that sgs Moonlight over Miami.' It's jt weird dialogue. I liked right away and I didn't really have to do that much terms of preparatn but jt talk to Shane and have fun and then see what Robert was gog to do, bee my character is functnary to his. Those rhythms of thgs, if he thought that there was maybe a possible dip the scene or we maybe need somethg else, or didn't que get somethg, that always happens. <br/> <br/> <strong>DOWNEY, JR.:</strong> But Val, and I speak for both of when I say Val, avoid that pfall that would have been almost impossible for me to not fall which is the mera is nng, you are Gay Perry and how n you not mp up? But when he did, was realistic. Like 's an improvisatn our next to last scene together when he turns around. 'You bet I'll turn around, look at him, he don't even know he's gay.' We're followg that guy down the hallway. So aga was stctual, me out of the character. Which is I thk why works. <br/> <br/> <strong>KILMER:</strong> I have a very ar iend who is gay and you wouldn't know , so I thought about him a ltle b. Jt his style of, he's meticulo, very well mannered and gay. I thought about him a ltle b. I ma one of the characters his last name. 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