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Canada is takg the spotlight. Here, he talks shyns, g up as a gay hip-hop fan, and turng down Dr. Dre.</div><div class="ContentHearByle-kmPyCa emiglw"><div class="ContentHearByleContent-dpPmNn DRFq"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl ContentHearByl-cZqgyJ bHLeKI"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gtxxjM byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fhQbnq dzFUnH eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/jordan-ley">Jordan Coley</a></span></span></p><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gtxxjM byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">Photography by </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fhQbnq dzFUnH eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/matt-mart">Matt Mart</a></span></span></p></div><time data-ttid="ContentHearPublishDate" dateTime="2020-02-25T08:00:00-05:00" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearPublishDate-eIBicG iUEiRd ivrQAn cZpOSL">Febary 25, 2020</time></div></div><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--standard ContentHearAccredatnSocialIns-jorO fPzfaa ntent-hear__social-share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div></div><div class="ContentHearLeadAsset-hGbumP diZztE lead-asset ContentHearLeadAssetWrapper-hfXHEc Grck lead-asset--width-fullbleed" data-ttid="ContentHearLeadAsset"><figure class="ContentHearLeadAssetContent-kOfYSG dRGWbI"><div class="ContentHearLeadAssetContentMedia-bLEIpi jjhWdS lead-asset__ntent__photo"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz gpkgCv"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm rponsive-image"><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w, 1920w, 2240w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Fger Face and Sk" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></picture></div></div></span><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn ContentHearLeadAssetCaptn-hPWmSN XczIg"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Shirt, $415, by Goodfight / T-shirt, $125, by Comme s Garns Shirt / Sunglass, $555, by Jacqu Marie Mage</span></div></div></figure></div></div><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR oEIBz persistent-asi persistent-asi--align-left" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jNgrSF sticky-box ContentHearPersistentAsi-fsnAmQ dFzKzm"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--has-background ContentHearSocialIns-jzJiyg ctaZl social-ins--share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></hear></div><div data-attribute-verso-pattern="article-body" class="ArticlePageContentBackGround-cNiFNN kJkLmH article-body__ntent"><div class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP eRxRjL"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eSsnKa"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Kaytranada is quiet, to the pot where I keep missg pockets of Quebeis-flected words as they fall gently om the 27-year-old’s mouth. It’s a ftg cince: up until now, the soft-spoken producer, born Louis Kev Celt, has let his beats speak for him. In the early 2010s, his bedroom tkergs felt revelatory to SoundCloud treasure hunters, dance mic fans, and old school R&B lovers alike, and ught the ears of Dr. Dre and Rick Rub. Kaytranada’s full-length but, 2016’s <em>99.9%</em>, showed jt how far and wi his sonic fluenc uld go—Haian dms, wobbly R&B bass, extraterrtrial EDM synths, power-pop hand claps—and how big his featur uld get right out of the gate (<a href=" target="_blank">Anrson </a>, Vic Mensa, Craig David).</p><p>His new album, <em>BUBBA,</em> is ls shy. Where <em>99.9%</em> bopped between disparate styl (a trap number here, an R&B ballad there), <em>BUBBA</em>—which topped Billboard’s Dance/Electronic Albums chart—is 50 mut of expertly chiseled groove. It nns the Kaytranada nebula to a sound that’s so ncrete and nfint, steals the spotlight spe a n of featur that reads like a <em>Now That’s What I Call Mic</em> playlist: <a href=">Pharrell</a>, Estelle, Tashe, Mick Jenks, GoldLk, Kali Uchis, Masego, and more. Sce <em>99.9%</em>, he's also notched his belt wh -stud assists for <a href=">Kendrick Lamar</a>, Alicia Keys, <a href=">Chance the Rapper</a>, Mary J. Blige, and Madonna.</p><p><em>BUBBA</em> don't jt create a moment for Kaytranada the producer, marks a waypot for Celt the person, whose life has e together over the last four years. He left his childhood home the Montreal suburbs, signed his first major-label al, and <a href=">me out</a>. Confince followed, and you hear <em>BUBBA</em>.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>Late last month lower Manhattan, <em>GQ</em> spoke to Kaytranada about overg his shyns, g up as a gay hip-hop fan, and turng down Dr. Dre.</p><div class="GroupCalloutWrapper-bPWknp gjCHDP llout llout--group llout--group-2" data-ttid="GroupCalloutWrapper"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed llout--group-em llout--group-em-1"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Human Person Hat and Cap" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed llout--group-em llout--group-em-2"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Coat Human Person Overat and Su" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Jacket, $2,700, and pants, $980, by Gucci / T-shirt, $100, by A.P.C. / Sho, $550, by Lanv / Hat, $260, by Begg & Co.</span></div></figure></div><p><strong>GQ: How have you been sce the album me out?</strong><br/><em>Kaytranada:</em> It's been good, man. People love and I'm happy ’e I didn't know if I still had . I dropped the EP last year, but I felt fotten, a sense.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p><strong>What ma you feel like people fot you?</strong><br/>The llaboratns I was dog. There were a lot of succsful llaboratns, of urse, but at the same time, there were a lot of them that were unsuccsful. Havg people on the last album, I was jt tryg to get them on [<em>BUBBA</em>] and some of them... didn't succeed. I jt felt like maybe my beats were wack. It played wh my md.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="txkl4c"></div></div><p><strong>In the lead up to the first album, you beme known for your signature "Kaytranada Sound.” Did you feel like you had to try to distance yourself and rist the urge to go back there on this new project?</strong><br/>I mean...[<em>hat</em>] how n I say this? That <em>beme</em> the Kaytranada signature sound a sense, but, at the same time, I was still tryg new thgs. That [sound] was jt one new thg I was tryg.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="e1h39s"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>But now I’ve seen evolve. [My sound is still] the same, but 's jt me unrstandg more dynamics of how people wanna hear stuff.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>You’re pletely self-tght. Do you feel like you've bee a more sophistited mician?</strong><br/>Yeah, a sense. When I did <em>99.9%</em>, a lot of the beats there were jt beats that I had ma the begng of my reer. I first started the procs 2012 and me out 2016.</p><p>I don't thk I’ve changed my sound; I jt thk evolved. It jt got better and better. People still want that old sound. I unrstand, but people evolve.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Sunglass Accsori Accsory Human Person and Goggl" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Hoodie, $325, by Goodfight / T-shirt, $95, by Office Générale / Pants, $575, by Junya Watanabe Man / Sho, $80, by New Balance / Sunglass, $350, by Christian Roth</span></div></figure><p><strong>You close out <em>BUBBA</em> wh "Midsectn" featurg Pharrell. As a producer who grew up the early ’00s, mt have been a dream of yours to work wh him.</strong><br/>Of urse. <em>Of urse</em>. Jt dog that terview [on Pharrell's Beats 1 Rad show OTHERtone] and hearg him say, "Oh yeah, man I'm gonna be on your album,” that was the first time he told me that. Everyone probably ught me on tape tearg up behd my glass.</p><p><strong>Did he reach out to you or did you have to reach out to him?</strong><br/>I had to reach out to him. We ma a beat and he's like, "Yo, put me the stud!" and he was sgg all this stuff. And you know Pharrell—he's a chameleon. He's put himself everybody's world. And he kd of put himself my world.</p><p>So I jt played the beat for "Midsectn" wh the kick and all that. When the beat drops, you hear the kick g up wh the claps and stuff. But he jt liked the sample loop that's gog on the begng. Du was jt <em>vibg</em>. He was jt gog crazy and he was g up wh ias so fast. It was amazg, man! Jt like seeg him for real—<em>PHAR-RELL</em>—dog his thg, you know? It's like, <em>oh sh!</em></p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="2aqsjj"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>He's very quick. I wish I uld be quick like him, ‘e that's how succsful ssns happen. Me, I'm so not quick. I always take my sweet time.</p><p><strong>When you first began to pop 2013, I image a lot of micians were tryg to work wh you. Were there artists that you turned down or cid not to work wh bee you didn't thk would work?</strong><br/>There's a lot of artists that wouldn’t have ma sense. A lot of pop artists. There's a lot of artists that I ed to love their mic, but I don't thk, like, <em>today</em> would make sense if I llaborated wh them. Maybe I was tripp'! [<em>Lghs.</em>]</p><p><strong>Can you remember any?</strong><br/>Dr. Dre wanted to meet me and play beats and, I didn't thk I had the beats to play, and I was jt like, 'You know what? Nevermd. Maybe next time." And I kd of regret today.</p><div class="GroupCalloutWrapper-bPWknp gjCHDP llout llout--group llout--group-2" data-ttid="GroupCalloutWrapper"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed llout--group-em llout--group-em-1"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Monk Human Person Sunglass Accsori and Accsory" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed llout--group-em llout--group-em-2"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Human Person Sleeve Coat and Kaytranada" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Shirt, $415, by Goodfight / T-shirt, $125, by Comme s Garns Shirt / Pants, $700, by Uma Wang / Sho, $550, by Lanv / Sunglass, $555, by Jacqu Marie Mage</span></div></figure></div><p><strong>You first gaed notoriety for the remix you posted on SoundCloud. You’ve sce worked wh some of the artists whose songs you remixed. Do you feel like makg remix was a way to get your favore artists to notice you?</strong><br/>[<em>Lghs</em>.] Maybe! Hontly, I jt had ias man. I really had ias. Like, when I did [the remix of Ja Jackson’s] "<a href=">If</a>," was really me. I listened to the [song’s] a ppella eight months a row. It had jt the harmoni there, the on I looped on the remix. And was jt nice to hear.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>And then I went to a Flyg Lot show and got really spired at 3 a.m., makg beats 'til 6 a.m.. I put on SoundCloud. Go to sleep—</p><p><strong>Wa, you jt put on SoundCloud that night?</strong><br/>That night! Put on SoundCloud, go to sleep, and then I wake up at noon and I had all the notifitns on my phone. And I'm like, "What the hell?" I put my phone away like, “I don't believe what's gog on.” Sudnly, people were wag for my next drop.</p><p>It's so funny, ‘e 's jt like, ias I had, and then those people actually liked . Teedra [Mos] reached out. Ja reached out not too long ago. It took seven years, but she reached out, actually.</p><p><strong>Do you and Ja have plans to work together?</strong><br/>Yeah, we're tryna llab. We're tryna lk up, but she's very shy, I'm very shy, so 's a problem. [<em>Lghs</em>.]</p><p><strong>It seemed like back when you first started to pop, you uld've had your “ producer” moment where you were on everythg wh everyone. That never que happened, though. Was that somethg you thought was possible for yourself?</strong><br/>I mean, uld've been possible. But 's also ‘e this style is really hard, and I’m not one of those typ of people who jt do on the spot. It played wh my head, like, "Why don't they like my stuff? Oh, maybe e I'm not quick enough? Maybe ’s bee I'm not the stud wh them? Maybe bee I'm not L.A.?"</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="n82gw"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Before I dropped <em>99</em>, was easier to jt send beats and have artists send somethg back. And then durg the procs of when I dropped the album to makg [<em>BUBBA</em>], was kd of evolvg. People wanted to be the stud to llaborate. Thgs were never gonna happen if I was not the stud. They didn't want to work remotely at all.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Footwear Clothg Shoe Apparel Human Person Sunglass Accsori Accsory Fger and Sleeve" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Cardigan, $539, by Ari / T-shirt, $65, by Vce / Jeans, $258, by Mother / Sho, $795, by Manolo Blahnik / Hat, $260, by Begg & Co. / Sunglass, $190, by A Better Feelg</span></div></figure><p><strong>You thk your difficulty wh llaboratg a room wh other artists is a byproduct of you growg up makg stuff alone your bedroom?</strong><br/>You know, I'm a really lonely guy. I don't have a lot of iends. And I'm fe wh that ‘e that's who I am. I've always been this loner guy. And I never liked beg on teams. That's why I have a lot of problems llaboratg wh [other] producers, personally.</p><p>If that person happens to be my iend, would be much easier! It would be fun and excg! The ssn would be perfect. But like people I don't know? I'm gonna be very shy. It will take a while for me to open up. But I'm dog my bt to fake that, so happens.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Comg out as a celebry and as a black man om a Wt Indian fay mt’ve been difficult. Have you felt enuraged by seeg younger artists, like Lil Nas X, g out and beg embraced?</strong><br/>It's spirg, but 's also amazg to see. I jt saw Nas wh Lil Nas X onstage at the Grammys. I don't know about the mic, but I thought was amazg to watch. Like, a rapper who has probably said homophobic stuff, but jt seeg them balancg each other and sgg their song? I thought was amazg. It's spirg.</p><p>Seeg <a href=" target="_blank">BROCKHAMPTON</a> as well, 's really crazy. Like, very dope. Also, 's not the cliche. That's what I alt wh g up. I was like, <em>Yeah, I'm gay. But am I really gay?</em> ‘Cse I don't have the culture down. I'm not like, “Y, queen!” and stuff like that. So that was really hard to al wh.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="wc9fp"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Do you fd helpful havg reprentatns of gay blackns that are different than the on people are ed to seeg?</strong><br/>I don't wanna tegorize—jt, like, why not jt be gay and that's all? You happen to be attracted to men and that's . The culture around took me a while to unrstand. When I me out, I didn't really have gay iends and stuff. I had to learn a lot.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Sleeve Human Person Kaytranada Footwear Shoe and Long Sleeve" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE dVZQpq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cugSjO asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd cdsJgg fNaHcW ptn__cred">Jacket, $1,455, by Office Générale / Shirt, $220, by Sandro / Jeans, $400, by Lr / Sho, $85, by Converse / Hat, $90, by Belstaff</span></div></figure><p><strong>It felt like there was this prsure for you to know certa thgs?</strong><br/>Yeah, exactly. There was this prsure. Especially not knowg the history. I had to learn a lot about gay history and, you know, [gayns wh] the black muny—pecially wh me havg a whe boyiend. There's a lot of crazy thgs that wh . I had to get away om social media, get away om a lot of thgs, the Inter.</p><p>People were talkg sh about all the time. A lot of gay men were not happy, llg me "whe man slave" and stuff like that. [<em>Lghs.</em>] And I'm like, "Damn, ok!" That's what is, man. I had to learn a lot.</p><p>I'm jt gay and I love hip-hop. I love Mobb Deep, and I'm happy to be gay. I hear their homophobic raps and I'm like, “Yeah, 's sad, but the beat is crazy.” [<em>Lghs.</em>]</p><p><em>This terview has been eded and nnsed for clary.</em></p><hr/><p><strong>PRODUCTION CREDITS:</strong><br/><em>Photographs by <strong>Matt Mart</strong></em><br/><em>Styled by <strong>Taryn Bensky</strong></em><br/><em>Groomg by <strong>Angel Garbriel for See Management</strong></em></p><hr/><figure class="CneVioEmbedFigure-kCfJjN hdJOda e-vio-embed"><div data-ttid="script-ntaer"></div></figure></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS jyGBoi"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="body body__le-barrier article__body article__body--grid-margs"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"><asi class="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper-iBnuqk lfXXa-D" data-ttid="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper"><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un 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