Alexanr the Gay and the Gloryhole That Was Greece (Chapter 19) - A History of Alexanr the Great World Culture

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THE GAY LOVERS OF ALEXANDER III OF MACEDON,known as ‘THE GREAT’Alexanr the Great Note on Alexanr, the movie by Oliver Stone When Oliver Stone was thkg of dog a movie on the life of the legendary son of kg Phillip II of Macedon and queen Olympias, one unexpected obstacle stood his way: the Greek…

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GAY SEX SCENE AXED FROM ALEXANR OCTOBER 3, 2004 RODNEY 135 COMMENTSTHERE’S BEEN A BUNCH OF DISCSN ON THE MOVIE BLOG ABOUT THE SEXUAL ORIENTATN OF ALEXANR THE GREAT, NONE OF WHICH I WILL GO TO NOW. BUT LOOKS LIKE THE BIG WIGS OVER AT WARNER BROS. HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVG SOME HEATED TALKS ABOUT AS WELL. DIGAL SPY GIV THIS:EXECS AT MOVIE STUD WARNER BROS. APPARENTLY BELIEVE THAT THE SCENE, WHICH SE FARRELL – WHO PLAYS BISEXUAL WARRR ALEXANR THE GREAT – ROMPG WH FRANCIS BOSCH (BAGOAS, A PERSIAN NUCH) WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO TAKE.“ALEXANR WAS ALMOST CERTALY BISEXUAL, AND OLIVER STONE WANTED TO PORTRAY THAT,” A SOURCE TOLD THE NEWS . “SO THERE ARE SCEN BETWEEN COL AND WOMEN, BUT THERE’S ALSO SOME PASSNATE SCEN BETWEEN COL AND FRANCIS BOSCH. “SOME OF THE SUS AT WARNER BROS. THK THAT THE MOVIE-GOG PUBLIC JT ISN’T READY TO SEE THAT. THERE’S SOME PRETTY HEATED ARGUMENTS GOG ON OVER .”OK, AS MUCH AS I’D HATE TO ADM , I THK THE EXEC’S AT WARNER PROBABLY MA THE RIGHT CHOICE AXG THE SCENE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE GENERAL MOVIE GOG DIENCE JT ISN’T READY FOR THAT KD OF THG A MAJOR HOLLYWOOD RELEASE, AND AFTER ALL, THIS IS A BS. THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEIR PANY, AND THEY WILL MAKE CISNS BASED ON WHAT WILL HELP THEM MAKE THE MOST MONEY… WHO WOULDN’T? THIS ISN’T A MORAL ISSUE. THE MOMENT MOVIE EXECUTIV BELIEVE GAY SCEN FILMS WILL CREASE BOX OFFICE RETURNS YOU N BET THERE WILL BE A WHOLE LOT OF . FOR NOW, THEY PROBABLY MA THE RIGHT CHOICE. FEEL EE TO LEAVE YOUR THOUGHTS THE MENTS SECTN. COMMENT WH FACEBOOK POSTED UNRNEWS CHATSHARE ON FACEBOOKTWEET ON TWTER ABOUT RODNEY VIEW ALL POSTS BY RODNEY → POST NAVIGATN

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The moment movie executiv believe gay scen films will crease box office returns you n bet there will be a whole lot of . THE GAY LOVERS OF ALEXANDER III OF MACEDON, known as ‘THE GREAT’. A group of homophobic Greek lawyers even threatened to sue Warner Bros.

The lawyers, tramplg their own tellectual herage unrfoot, sent a letter to the stud mandg they state the tle creds that the movie was a fictnal surroundg the “gayns” of Alexanr has a precent. A uple of years prevly, a mob of hundreds of Macedonian Greeks stormed an archeologil symposium after a speaker prented a paper on the homosexualy of Alexanr.

Stone’s movie uld have been done much better; he uld have portrayed Alexanr as we know him historilly, gay lovers and all, but Col Farrell was not the bt choice to play Alexanr. When the DVD was released, Stone attempted to salvage the movie by rearrangg the scen and takg out much of the homosexual ntent.

ALEXANR THE GREAT’S GAY LOVERS

This relatnship rembled morn gay love and beme legendary for ’s passn.

What may seem normal to some of today, the gay love of one man for another, ancient days was owned upon as a threat to masculy and the stcture of society. Alexanr saw their love as emulatg that heroic love between Achill and Patrocl, another ancient uple that morn gay upl n look to as an example of votn. Edorial Board, World History of Male Love, “Famo Homosexuals”, The Gay Lovers of Alexanr the Great, 2000 <> Jt for the rerd, to any of my Greek rears, always remember this, the greatt man Greek History was a homosexual (ο μεγαλύτερος άνθρωπος στην ελληνική ιστορία ήταν ομοφυλόφιλος), not a perast like many ancient Greeks, but a homosexual who had a male lover of equal age, which ma a huge difference the Ancient Greek World.

It happens to be one of my favore morn gay art piec. Yet, to give Stone his due, he was prepared to take on the ch the welter of homophobic cricism he received for pictg his hero  close homoerotic enunter wh the Persian nuch. For ancient Greeks there was no ntradictn between youthful homoeroticism and predomantly or wholly heterosexual adult proclivy and activy.

ALEXANR THE GREAT: GAY OR STRAIGHT?

Alexanr the Great’s Relatnships wh MenAlexanr’s relatnship wh HephatnAlexanr’s relatnship wh BagoasAlexanr the Great’s Marriag and ChildrenAlexanr’s Sexual Orientatn Explaed by the Cultural Aspect of GreeksWas Alexanr the Great Gay or Straight?

One of the greatt nquerors, Alexanr the Great, has been the foc of nsirable njecture, and the qutn of whether or not he was gay remas one of the most ntent. Alexanr’s close ti wh men like Hephatn and Bagoas have been terpreted by some as proof of his homosexualy, while others have argued that they were merely close panns.

WAS ALEXANR THE GREAT GAY? THE ACTUAL ANSWER

Another mon argument agast Alexanr’s claimed homosexualy is that he was married many tim to different women and had at least one child om them, Alexanr IV. That is why whether Alexanr the Great was gay or not is still an open qutn today. This clus whether Alexanr the Great was gay.

19 - ALEXANR THE GAY AND THE GLORYHOLE THAT WAS GREECE

It’s still worth notg that this is not ncrete evince to suggt that Alexanr and Hephatn had a romantic or homosexual relatnship.

KEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN BARBIE’S GAY BT FRIEND—NOT HER BOYIENDBARBIE’S BELOVED BEARD?FOR YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE QUTNED WHAT ROLE KEN REALLY PLAYS BARBIE’S LIFE. BUT THE TTH IS PLA SIGHT: KEN’S NOT BOYIEND MATERIAL. AT LEAST, NOT FOR BARBIE.BARRY LEVTFREELANCE WRERPUBLISHED JUL. 21, 2023 4:35AM EDT PHOTO ILLTRATN BY THE DAILY BEAST/GETTYIT’S BARBIE WEEK AT THE DAILY BEAST’S OBSSED, CELEBRATG THE DOLL’S POP-CULTURE HISTORY, OUR FAVORE BARBIE MEMORI, AND A CERTA MAJOR MOVIE. READ ALL OF OUR VERAGE HERE!“SHE’S EVERYTHG. HE’S JT KEN.” THAT’S THE TAGLE FOR THE WILDLY ANTICIPATED BARBIE MOVIE, DIRECTED BY GRETA GERWIG AND STARRG MARGOT ROBBIE AND RYAN GOSLG. THE IMPLITN IS CLEAR: COME FOR BARBIE, AND STAY FOR BARBIE… BUT KEN HAPPENS TO BE THERE TOO.KEN HAS LONG BEEN SEEN AS NOTHG BUT BARBIE’S HUMAN ACCSORY, BUT WASN’T ALWAYS THIS WAY FOR THE POOR MISUNRSTOOD DOLL. WHEN KEN WAS FIRST TRODUCED 1961, HIS FIRST MERCIAL TRIED TO POSN HIM AS BARBIE’S EQUAL AND, UNMISTAKABLY, BOYIEND. “GET BOTH BARBIE AND KEN AND SEE WHERE THE ROMANCE WILL LEAD!” THE MERCIAL PROMISED.SCE THEN, LIKE BARBIE, KEN HAS UNRGONE UNTLS TRANSFORMATNS AND FASHNS. BUT AS TIME WENT ON, KEN FOUND HIMSELF AN AFTERTHOUGHT. TOYMAKERS MATTEL NEVER GAVE HIM THE SAME KD OF BACKSTORI AS BARBIE—WHILE SHE’S HAD OVER 200 REERS, KEN HAS HAD JT SOME 40-ODD PROFSNS. (AN CREDIBLE AMOUNT OF JOBS FOR A PERSON, SURE. BUT FOR A DOLL? EMBARRASSG.) BARBIE HAS STARRED LOTS OF VIO GAM AND MORE THAN THREE DOZEN FILMS; KEN HAS HAD A MAJOR ROLE A MERE HANDFUL OF THEM. BUT THERE’S ONE KEY REASON WHY KEN IS ALWAYS LAGGG SIGNIFINTLY BEHD BARBIE AND 'S A LOT EPER THAN THE DOLL’S SEEMG LACK OF POPULARY: KEN HAS BEEN MISST. HE’S NOT BARBIE’S BOYIEND. HE’S BARBIE’S GAY BT IEND.DPE MATTEL’S SISTENCE THAT BARBIE AND KEN ARE A HAPPY ROMANTIC RELATNSHIP, THERE’S PLENTY OF SPECULATN ABOUT KEN’S SEXUALY. EVEN IF HIS MAKERS CLAIM HIM TO BE STRAIGHT, THERE’S MOUNTG PROOF TO THE NTRARY. PERHAPS THE MOST DISPUTABLE EVINCE THAT KEN IS FACT BOTH A MEMBER OF THE QUEER MUNY AND BARBIE’S BTIE, NOT BOY TOY, OM A RATHER SURPRISG PLACE: 2010’S TOY STORY 3.IN TOY STORY 3, BARBIE AND KEN PLAY A SURPRISGLY LARGE ROLE. THEIR TRODUCTN TO THE FILM IS TGED WH ROMANTIC TENSN. WHEN THE PAIR MEET, THE FILM VOK A MON TROPE: A ROMANTIC NEEDLE DROP HS THE MOMENT THE LOVERS LOCK EY. IN THIS SE, ’S “DREAM WEAVER” BY GARY WRIGHT. AS FAR AS BARBIE AND KEN ARE NCERNED, THEY’RE THE ONLY ON THE ROOM. “I LOVE YOUR LEG WARMERS!” KEN TELLS BARBIE. “NICE AST,” SHE BANTERS, WH HEAVY EMPHASIS ON THE FIRST SYLLABLE. BEFORE THGS GET TOO HEATED, THEY LOCK ARMS AND WALK OFF TOGETHER. PHOTO ILLTRATN BY KELLY CAMERO / THE DAILY BEAST / GETTY LET’S BE HONT—SPE THE ROMANTIC OVERTON OF THE SCENE, THEIR BRIEF EXCHANGE TELLS EVERYTHG ABOUT HOW THEY SEE EACH OTHER. KEN DON’T MENTN ANYTHG ABOUT BARBIE’S BODY, STEAD HIGHLIGHTG HER LEG WARMERS. BUT BARBIE IS UNSUBTLY TRYG TO SCE KEN JT TWO WORDS. SHE’S AFTER KEN, BUT KEN IS AFTER SOMEONE WHOSE CLOTH HE N ADMIRE.SURE, LATER THE FILM, KEN AND BARBIE SAY “I LOVE YOU” TO EACH OTHER. AND THEY GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SAYG EACH WORD OF “I LOVE YOU”—SO SOMEONE DIFFERENT N SAY “LOVE” EACH TIME, AS KEN EXPLAS. HE MENTNS OFFHAND THAT HE HAS EVERYTHG EXCEPT SOMEONE TO SHARE WH. BARBIE AND KEN EVEN NUZZLE THEIR NOS TOGETHER. Y, THERE’S FELY LOVE BETWEEN IENDS—BUT THROUGH ALL, THERE’S NOT A HT OF SEXUAL CHEMISTRY.LOOK, I KNOW WHAT YOU’RE THKG—SIR, THIS IS TOY STORY; WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU EXPECTG? IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER ROMANC THE ANCHISE—WOODY AND BO PEEP, AND JSE AND BUZZ—THERE’S NO DOUBT THAT THERE’S REAL LOVE THERE BETWEEN THE SENTIENT TOYS. THEIR PASSN FOR ONE ANOTHER TRANSCENDS MORE THAN SIMPLY BEG TERTED EACH OTHER’S OUTFS. THE SAME NNOT BE SAID OF THE MATTEL DOLLS. THAT’S MA EVINT WHEN KEN FALLY GETS AN OPPORTUNY FOR TIMACY WH BARBIE. “THIS IS WHERE THE MAGIC HAPPENS,” HE TELLS BARBIE WHEN THEY FALLY GO TO HIS DREAMHOE TOGETHER, HAVG PARENTS ALL OVER THE WORLD CLUTCHG THEIR PEARLS. BUT FEAR NOT: KEN SIMPLY TAK BARBIE TO… HIS WALK- WARDROBE. ANY SEMBLANCE OF ROMANCE MAK WAY FOR IENDSHIP, WHEN THE PAIR JUBILANTLY PESE KEN’S OUTFS. AND STEAD OF DOG SOMETHG WILD LIKE KISSG BARBIE, KEN PUTS ON A FASHN SHOW FOR HER STEAD. THE FILM WON’T SAY , BUT A POST-CREDS PUNCHLE ABOUT KEN’S HANDWRG, PLETE WH HEARTS AND STARS SURROUNDG HIS NAME, TELLS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.THE HEAVILY IMPLIED NATURE OF KEN’S GAYNS TOY STORY 3 HARKENS BACK TO HOLLYWOOD’S TRADNAL GAY BT IEND-TYPE CHARACTERS. IN THE HAYS CO ERA, EXPLIC REFERENC TO HOMOSEXUALY WEREN’T ALLOWED, SO CHARACTERS LIKE VAN BUREN (FRANKL PANGBORN) 1937’S EASY LIVG, KIP (DAVID WAYNE) 1949’S ADAM’S RIB, OR ADDISON (GEE SANRS) 1950’S ALL ABOUT EVE STEAD WERE IMBUED WH EFFEMATE CHARACTERISTICS, OFFERG A GLIMPSE OUTSI OF HETERONORMATIVY WHOUT EXPLICLY BEG QUEER.NONE OF THE CHARACTERS WERE THE SAME—SOME WERE TTY, OTHERS SWEET. SOME HAD ULTERR MOTIV, AND OTHERS OFFERED UNNDNAL SUPPORT. BUT EACH OF THE GAY BT IENDS WAS TRSILLY FED BY THEIR RELATNSHIPS WH THEIR STRAIGHT IENDS. WE NEVER REALLY LEARNED MUCH ABOUT THEM AS DIVIDUALS. THEY LIVED ON THE MARGS, FLHG OUT THEIR STRAIGHT UNTERPARTS, HARDLY HAVG A PURPOSE WHOUT THEM; THAT PORTRAYAL REMAS TE TODAY. PHOTO ILLTRATN BY KELLY CAMERO / THE DAILY BEAST / PHOTOS BY GETTY / WARNER BROS. DES LATER, 2010, THE GAY BT IEND WAS ALL THE RAGE; TEEN VOGUE EVEN WENT SO FAR AS TO PROCLAIM THE GBF AS THE SUMMER’S MT-HAVE ACCSORY. BUT UNLIKE THE FIRST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY, TODAY’S CEMA, THE GBF IS ALLOWED TO BE OPENLY GAY. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY STILL BARELY REGISTER AS PEOPLE WH CHARACTER TRAS BEYOND THEIR RELATNSHIPS WH THEIR STRAIGHT UNTERPARTS. IN MOVI LIKE MEAN GIRLS (2004), THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA (2006), EASY A (2010), NO STRGS ATTACHED (2011), AND ISN’T IT ROMANTIC (2019), GAY IENDS EXIST ENTIRELY THE ORB OF THEIR FEMALE IENDS. IT’S SUCH A STRONG TROPE THAT EVEN PERSISTS QUEER ROMANTIC EDI: 2020’S HAPPIT SEASON FDS JOHN (DAN LEVY) OFFERG ADVICE AND SNARKY ONE-LERS TO HIS LBIAN BTIE LI OF MEANGFUL CHARACTER VELOPMENT.IN TOY STORY 3, THE SAME IS TE OF KEN. HIS EXISTENCE PENDS ON AND CIRCULAT AROUND BARBIE. IN BARBIE, KEN HAS FOUND SOMEONE WHO REALLY UNRSTANDS HIM. HE DON’T GET ALONG WH THE OTHER TOYS, WHO MOCK HIM FOR BEG A “GIRL'S TOY.” BUT BARBIE LOV FASHN, JT LIKE HE DO. “NO ONE APPRECIAT CLOTH HERE, BARBIE,” KEN LAMENTS TO BARBIE, ABOUT THE OTHER TOYS’ TREATMENT OF HIM. “NO ONE!” BUT BARBIE DO, AND FOR KEN, THAT’S LIFE-CHANGG.THERE ARE PLENTY OF REASONS WHY THE FILM WOULDN’T OUTRIGHTLY STATE THAT KEN IS HOMOSEXUAL. NOT ONLY DO DISNEY SELF HAVE A PLITED HISTORY WH QUEER CHARACTERS, BUT KEN AND BARBIE ARE ALSO THE PROPERTY OF MATTEL, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN STEADFAST ASSERTG KEN’S HETEROSEXUALY. THAT’S NEVER BEEN CLEARER THAN 1993 WHEN THE TOY PANY TRIED TO REIGNE KEN’S POPULARY MATTEL’S SOLUTN? EARRG MAGIC KEN. EARRG MAGIC KEN WAS A FIERCER, FELY MORE QUEER KEN THAN EVER BEFORE. THIS VERSN OF THE DOLL HAD BLEACHED BLON HAIR, A PURPLE LEATHER VT (!), A PK-PURPLE MH TOP (!!), AND OF URSE, AND EARRG THE “GAY EAR”. BUT THAT’S NOT ALL: AROUND KEN’S NECK WAS SOMETHG THAT ANY ACTIVE PARTICIPANT OF THE QUEER SCENE THE ’90S REGNIZED STANTLY—A CK RG (!!!).THE EARRG MAGIC KEN TURNED BARBIE’S BOYIEND TO AN OUT-AND-PROUD HOMOSEXUAL RAVER. MATTEL, OF URSE, VEHEMENTLY NIED ANY CLAIMS THAT KEN WAS GAY, LET ALONE THAT HE HAD SOMETHG AS PREPOSTERO AS A CK RG AROUND HIS NECK. AS LISA MCKENDALL, FORMER MANAGER OF MARKETG AND MUNITNS, SAID AN TERVIEW ABOUT THE DOLL, “WE’RE NOT THE BS OF PUTTG CK RGS TO THE HANDS OF LTLE GIRLS.”REGARDLS OF MATTEL’S TENTNS, ’S HARD TO NY WHAT THE EYE N SEE. DPE THE NAME, CK RGS AT THE TIME WERE ED AS A FASHN ACCSORY AND A SIGN OF FIANT QUEERNS AND SEX POSIVY. AS A RULT, GAY MEN BOUGHT THE DOLL DROV, AND SPE MATTEL ULTIMATELY RELLG THE DOLL AND WIPG AWAY ANY TRACE OF EARRG MAGIC KEN, WAS NEAR-IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE KEN AS ANYTHG BUT THE GLOR HOMOSEXUAL HE WAS BORN TO BE OM THEN ON. MATTEL SPENT THE NEXT UPLE OF S TRYG TO RETA KEN’S MORE HETERONORMATIVE, MASCULE IMAGE, BUT THE VEIL WAS LIFTED, AND THERE WAS NO GOG BACK. PHOTO ILLTRATN BY KELLY CAMERO/THE DAILY BEAST/PHOTOS BY GETTY/WARNER BROS. THOUGH MATTEL DON’T SEEM TO BE WILLG TO SAY KEN IS ACTUALLY GAY, THE KEN DOLLS OF RECENT YEARS SEEM TO REALLY LEAN TO KEN’S QUEERNS. THE YASSIFITN OF KEN IS CLEARLY UNRWAY. WHILE THERE IS NO WAY TO “DRS GAY,” THERE ARE SEVERAL DOLLS THAT SEEM TO SUGGT OTHERWISE, SUCH AS:FASHNISTA KEN #193, WHO LOOKS VERY EXCED TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIS NEW OBSSN, TROYE SIVAN;TRAVEL KEN DOLL, WHO HAS A SATCHEL PERFECT FOR BATHHO AND A PURPLE OVERNIGHT BAG THAT LERALLY PROCLAIMS HE’S “EXTRA;”KEN LOOKS DOLL, SERVG “I’M GONNA GIVE YOU A MAKEOVER”-TYPE REALNS WHILE SPORTG BLACK PLEATHER PANTS;THIS KEN, WHO WEARS THE LEAST HETEROSEXUAL DOUBLE NIM IMAGABLE.WHILE I HAVE A FEELG THE NEW BARBIE MOVIE WILL PUT THE WORK TO NVCE THAT KEN IS A HETERO DU WHO LOV NOTHG LIFE MORE THAN BARBIE HERSELF, THE WRG’S ALREADY ON THE WALL: KEN IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, BARBIE’S GAY BT IEND.KEEP OBSSG! SIGN UP FOR THE DAILY BEAST’S OBSSED NEWSLETTER AND FOLLOW ON FACEBOOK, TWTER, INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK.READ MORE OF OUR BARBIE VERAGE HERE. BARRY LEVT

Plutarch – Life of Alexanr (Part 7 of 7)Alexanr the Great’s Marriag and ChildrenAs unterevince to the claim that Alexanr was gay, many pot to his many marriag to women and the children he had wh them. Such pairgs weren’t tomatilly seen as signs of gay or bisexual orientatn, but rather as a natural part of life. The close iendships often characterized ancient Greek society, and that’s why there wasn’t always sexual tensn between Alexanr the Great Gay or Straight?

In ncln, is impossible to state wh certaty whether or not Alexanr the Great was gay or even bisexual, spe evince suggtg he had timate ti wh men. Is there historil evince that Alexanr the Great was really homosexual or bisexual ( our morn sense), or is that a prent-day ntrivance? I've seen him lled bisexual a lot of plac and even exclively gay others but the most mon catn I see is a uple of sourc that say he "loved Hephatn above all others.

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