Why are gay people flamboyant? - Answers

Contents:

• GAY CULTURE HAS GROWN TOXIC WH UNCHECKED PRIVILEGE. IT'S TIME FOR TO RET
• WHY I DECID TO BE GAY
• THREAD: FLAMBOYANT GAYS VS THE AVERAGE HOMOSEXUAL MALE.
• WHY ARE GAY PEOPLE FLAMBOYANT?
• THE GAY VOICE
• SCIENTISTS MAY HAVE FALLY UNLOCKED PUZZLE OF WHY PEOPLE ARE GAY
• WHY DO SOME GAY MEN WAY OVER-EXAGGERATE WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE FEME BEHAVRS?
• GAY STEREOTYP: ARE THEY TE?
• FLAMBOYANT VS GAY - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?FLAMBOYANT | GAY |AS ADJECTIV THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLAMBOYANT AND GAYIS THAT FLAMBOYANT IS SHOWY, BOLD OR DAC BEHAVUR, APPEARANCE, ETC WHILE GAY IS HAPPY, JOYFUL, AND LIVELY.AS NOUNS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLAMBOYANT AND GAYIS THAT FLAMBOYANT IS A SHOWY TROPIL TREE, THE ROYAL POCIANA (DELONIX REGIA WHILE GAY IS A HOMOSEXUAL, PECIALLY A MALE HOMOSEXUAL; SEE ALSO LBIAN.AS A PROPER NOUN GAY IS{{SURNAME|A=AN|ENGLISH|OM=NICKNAM}}, ORIGALLY A NICKNAME FOR A CHEERFUL OR LIVELY PERSON.AS A VERB GAY ISTO MAKE HAPPY OR CHEERFUL.FLAMBOYANTENGLISHADJECTIVE(EN ADJECTIVE)SHOWY, BOLD OR DAC BEHAVUR, APPEARANCE, ETC.* 1902 , ,WHEN WE SEE SOME OF THE MONSTRO AND FLAMBOYANT BLOSSOMS THAT ENRICH THE EQUATORIAL WOODS, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY ARE NFLAGRATNS OF NATURE; SILENT EXPLOSNS OF HER IGHTFUL ENERGY. WE SIMPLY FD HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE NOT WAX FLOWERS GROWN UNR A GLASS SE.* 1920 , , CHAPTER VI: THE QUTN OF CLEARNS,BUT A SRN OF FLAMBOYANT NECKTI AND CHECKERBOARD TROERS IS NO EXCE FOR GOG TO THE OPPOSE EXTREME OF A BLUE FLANNEL SHIRT AND OVERALLS; .* 1962 MAY 12, ,THE UNBELIEVERS WILL SAY THEY ARE BUT WORDS, BUT A SLOGAN, BUT A FLAMBOYANT PHRASE.(ARCHECTURE) REFERRED TO AS THE FAL STAGE OF FRENCH GOTHIC ARCHECTURE OM THE 14TH TO THE 16TH CENTURI.* 1891 , , CHAPTER XIX: AVIGNON,S. PIERRE IS A FLAMBOYANT CHURCH, THE TAILS PASSG TO RENAISSANCE.* 1911 , ,THE SEND IS A CHAPEL OF TWO STOREYS, THE LOWER DATG OM 1150, WHILE THE UPPER WAS REBUILT THE 15TH CENTURY, AND THERE IS A RICH FLAMBOYANT ENTRANCE WH A STAIRWAY (1533).* 1913 , ,THE NAVE AND CENTRAL TOWER, MORE FLAMBOYANT SIGN, WERE FISHED EARLY THE SIXTEENTH CENTURY AFTER THE ORIGAL PLAN.NOUN(EN NOUN)A SHOWY TROPIL TREE, THE ROYAL POCIANA (DELONIX REGIA )* 1919 ,THE SCHOONERS MOORED TO THE QUAY ARE TRIM AND NEAT, THE LTLE TOWN ALONG THE BAY IS WHE AND URBANE, AND THE FLAMBOYANTS , SRLET AGAST THE BLUE SKY, FLNT THEIR LOUR LIKE A CRY OF PASSN.GAY
• REPORTED EFFECTS OF MASCULE IALS ON GAY MEN

GAY CULTURE HAS GROWN TOXIC WH UNCHECKED PRIVILEGE. IT'S TIME FOR TO RET

But even though the nversatns that muted this lumn for six weeks are nowhere close to beg over, I do feel like some thgs that me up durg that time of ntemplatn are worth sayg now — particularly to my fellow whe gay cis out more stori on LGBTQ+ ins and activistsHowever, the ghost of Larry Kramer very much remaed my own head as I ma my way through a Pri month unlike any other.

I spent a few quiet afternoons readg his 1978 but novel Faggots, a satiril (yet clearly tobgraphil) look at the liv of gay men 1970s New York Cy that he wrote jt before AIDS ma him a figurehead of Amerin activism. Followg a man his late 30s (based on Kramer himself) who is seekg out a lovg, long-term relatnship a sea of hedonism, the novel has a clear msage: gay men need to start lovg each other stead of beg so obssed wh gettg fucked up and (lerally and figuratively) fuckg each other.

- Larry Kramer his but novelUpon publitn, Faggots was dismissed by many as puranil and self-loathg for s cricism of gay men's obssn wh vany, promiscuy and recreatnal dg e.

WHY I DECID TO BE GAY

And while, on one level, the book is a wild (if at tim problematic) wdow to an era of gay culture 40 years the past, also felt like had a lot to say about gay culture today. In mastream gay media, the phrase almost always refers to a fairly specific subset of the LGBTQ "muny" largely ma up of whe gay cis men — even though many of the battl won around queer rights were fought by people of lour, trans and genr-nonnformg folks, and queer women, and fact the morn Pri movement self was large part iated by Black trans women. If an imprsn of a monolhic "gay culture" fed by such a homogeneo mographic exists, is bee whe gay cis men have until very recently domated mastream reprentatn unr the LGBTQ umbrella and have, general, been hand a level of privilege the last that is wildly disproportnate to any other mographic unr said umbrella.

THREAD: FLAMBOYANT GAYS VS THE AVERAGE HOMOSEXUAL MALE.

When was the last time I actually had a good time at gay bar full of people I have fely spoken to on social media or apps but who act like I'm pletely sane when I se or say hello person? In analyzg the show's pictn of young gay men livg San Francis, wrer Daniel Wenger diagnos what he terms the "new gay sadns": an entire generatn of urban, privileged gay men who seem to have no clue what they're lookg for or who they are.

Largely born the 1980s, they are the earlit wave of a "post-Stonewall, post-plague, post-activist" generatn of gays — "too old to have brought a boy to the prom and too young to have nursed a fantasy of nng away to an urban gay utopia, " Wenger explas. Queeri5 pneerg LGBTQ Canadian films you n watch for ee right nowI've seen many of my fellow whe gay cis men seemgly rise to the ocsn by retweetg Black and Indigeno voic, gog to ralli and vowg to te themselv on how to tly be anti-racist (though how performative that is some s is unclear). Rettg "gay culture" will require fightg back agast entrenched social prsur and expectatns of gay cis men — and llg them out when they perpetuate, even passively, any form of discrimatory dialogue.

And was large part bee of that attu that he uld lead AIDS activists through a rpt and homophobic system to ga accs to the dgs that ma possible for our generatn to have the liv that we do.

WHY ARE GAY PEOPLE FLAMBOYANT?

LGBT is still a popular term ed to discs genr and sexual mori, but all GSRM are wele beyond lbian, gay, bisexual, and transgenr people who nsent to participate a safe space. Obvly, not all gay people have an “accent” and not all people who have an “accent” are gay, but for those people who are both mps:.

THE GAY VOICE

Addnally, as beg gay be more acceptable society, do you all thk the prevalence of this flamboyance will fa and that gay and straight atic patterns will be assiated together? Photo: Wikimedia CommonsBeg flamboyant and unapologetic allowed me to fd power and pleasure myselfAt some level, I thk I’ve always known I was gay.

Here was this geo young flamboyant gay man, and I uldn’t help but envy him for his abily and willgns to live his life such an thentic way, pecially sce he me om a small Wt Virgia town like I did.

I don't thk that flamboyant, over-the-top behavur is a real characteristic of homossexualy and people who do that are fakg or secure. Beg gay don't make you put thk that everyone should put up wh your bad habs, bullsh and childish perceptn of genre behavr, mak you love/feel sexual attractn to people of the same sex perd.

SCIENTISTS MAY HAVE FALLY UNLOCKED PUZZLE OF WHY PEOPLE ARE GAY

We all know gay people suffer prejudice, but even my married gay iends tell me that those people aren't actually gay, but are sperately tryg to earn attentn by explog somethg that's natural and uneventful, while at the same time brgg shame to gay people who try to live normal liv. He said I should provi the reasons why I have the belief that flamboyant people aren't really gay, for that to work I mt scribe my view of gay people and culture. This led to extreme suatns of social anxiety and other thgs, but [here starts my own visn] after the events of 9/11 and the advent of neo-atheism, fluential gay people started mpaigng whout fear of relig persecutn and sce they are slowly earng the rpect they serve.

The problem is that the Media is a dirty, filthy disgtg bs when they want to and they have been shg , turng homosexualy to a 'trend', like they uld fix s of blatant, explic prejudice forcg a trimental view of the gay culture down everyone's throat. Gay people are workg hard to make an acceptable, stable and rpectful image and people who are explog the stereotypil ncept of gay culture are settg thgs back for them and should be reprehend.

That's why I believe flamboyant, attentn-seekg people that e their sexualy as a social tool (which is natural for humans but should be avoid now that we have the CIVILIZATION to eva that) do not reprent the image that gay people are strivg for and serve only to dissemate wrong perceptns of sexualy (like all gay people are futile, va, oversexualized or promiscuo, ceful, backstabbg and all that jazz) and should be reprehend and reted. I don’t really re that he’s gay, ’s jt that he seems like they type of gay person that bas their whole personaly around beg gay. I'm not sure if this theory is valid or not, but I feel like there is possibly a very small and loud mory of gay men that are g for all of the others.

WHY DO SOME GAY MEN WAY OVER-EXAGGERATE WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE FEME BEHAVRS?

But soon the l blur and the hate for those annoyg flamboyant INDIVIDUALS, be hate for all gay people at large, cludg the non-annoyg on. OT: I pretty much agree wh what you have said regards to the false equivalency between gay and flamboyant the media, one of my pet peev actually. Flamboyant is often ed for gays only, but I thk 's someone who really flnts their sexualy/emotns and who shows a lot of movg around.

GAY STEREOTYP: ARE THEY TE?

After intifyg phoic characteristics that seem to make a man’s voice sound gay, their bt hunch is that some gay men may subnscly adopt certa female speech patterns. They want to know how men acquire this manner of speakg, and why – pecially when society so often stigmatiz those wh gay-soundg voic.

A group of scientists suggted Tuday that homosexuals get that tra om their oppose-sex parents: A lbian will almost always get the tra om her father, while a gay man will get the tra om his heredary lk of homosexualy has long been tablished, but scientists knew was not a strictly geic lk, bee there are many pairs of intil tws who have differg sexuali. Scientists om the Natnal Instute for Mathematil and Blogil Synthis say homosexualy seems to have an epigeic, not a geic thought to have some sort of heredary lk, a group of scientists suggted Tuday that homosexualy is lked to epi-marks — extra layers of rmatn that ntrol how certa gen are exprsed.

In homosexuals, the epi-marks aren't erased — they're passed om father-to-dghter or mother-to-son, explas William Rice, an evolutnary blogist at the Universy of California Santa Barbara and lead thor of the study. "There is pellg evince that epi-marks ntribute to both the siary and dissiary of fay members, and n therefore feasibly ntribute to the observed faial herance of homosexualy and s low nrdance between [intil] tws, " Rice and his team created a mathematil mol that explas why homosexualy is passed through epi-marks, not geics.

FLAMBOYANT VS GAY - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?FLAMBOYANT | GAY |AS ADJECTIV THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLAMBOYANT AND GAYIS THAT FLAMBOYANT IS SHOWY, BOLD OR DAC BEHAVUR, APPEARANCE, ETC WHILE GAY IS HAPPY, JOYFUL, AND LIVELY.AS NOUNS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLAMBOYANT AND GAYIS THAT FLAMBOYANT IS A SHOWY TROPIL TREE, THE ROYAL POCIANA (DELONIX REGIA WHILE GAY IS A HOMOSEXUAL, PECIALLY A MALE HOMOSEXUAL; SEE ALSO LBIAN.AS A PROPER NOUN GAY IS{{SURNAME|A=AN|ENGLISH|OM=NICKNAM}}, ORIGALLY A NICKNAME FOR A CHEERFUL OR LIVELY PERSON.AS A VERB GAY ISTO MAKE HAPPY OR CHEERFUL.FLAMBOYANTENGLISHADJECTIVE(EN ADJECTIVE)SHOWY, BOLD OR DAC BEHAVUR, APPEARANCE, ETC.* 1902 , ,WHEN WE SEE SOME OF THE MONSTRO AND FLAMBOYANT BLOSSOMS THAT ENRICH THE EQUATORIAL WOODS, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY ARE NFLAGRATNS OF NATURE; SILENT EXPLOSNS OF HER IGHTFUL ENERGY. WE SIMPLY FD HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE NOT WAX FLOWERS GROWN UNR A GLASS SE.* 1920 , , CHAPTER VI: THE QUTN OF CLEARNS,BUT A SRN OF FLAMBOYANT NECKTI AND CHECKERBOARD TROERS IS NO EXCE FOR GOG TO THE OPPOSE EXTREME OF A BLUE FLANNEL SHIRT AND OVERALLS; .* 1962 MAY 12, ,THE UNBELIEVERS WILL SAY THEY ARE BUT WORDS, BUT A SLOGAN, BUT A FLAMBOYANT PHRASE.(ARCHECTURE) REFERRED TO AS THE FAL STAGE OF FRENCH GOTHIC ARCHECTURE OM THE 14TH TO THE 16TH CENTURI.* 1891 , , CHAPTER XIX: AVIGNON,S. PIERRE IS A FLAMBOYANT CHURCH, THE TAILS PASSG TO RENAISSANCE.* 1911 , ,THE SEND IS A CHAPEL OF TWO STOREYS, THE LOWER DATG OM 1150, WHILE THE UPPER WAS REBUILT THE 15TH CENTURY, AND THERE IS A RICH FLAMBOYANT ENTRANCE WH A STAIRWAY (1533).* 1913 , ,THE NAVE AND CENTRAL TOWER, MORE FLAMBOYANT SIGN, WERE FISHED EARLY THE SIXTEENTH CENTURY AFTER THE ORIGAL PLAN.NOUN(EN NOUN)A SHOWY TROPIL TREE, THE ROYAL POCIANA (DELONIX REGIA )* 1919 ,THE SCHOONERS MOORED TO THE QUAY ARE TRIM AND NEAT, THE LTLE TOWN ALONG THE BAY IS WHE AND URBANE, AND THE FLAMBOYANTS , SRLET AGAST THE BLUE SKY, FLNT THEIR LOUR LIKE A CRY OF PASSN.GAY

Evolutnarily speakg, if homosexualy was solely a geic tra, scientists would expect the tra to eventually disappear bee homosexuals wouldn't be expected to reproduce. But bee the epi-marks provi an evolutnary advantage for the parents of homosexuals: They protect fathers of homosexuals om unrexposure to ttosterone and mothers of homosexuals om overexposure to ttosterone while they are gtatn.

"The epi-marks protect fathers and mothers om excs or unrexposure to ttosterone — when they rry over to oppose-sex offsprg, n e the masculizatn of femal or the femizatn of mal, " Rice says, which n lead to a child beg gay. Rice not that the markers are "highly variable" and that only strong epi-marks will rult a homosexual scientists have long spected some sort of geic lk, Rice says studi attemptg to expla why people are gay have been few and far between.

" Homosexual behavr has been observed black swans, pengus, sheep, and other animals, he 's mol still needs to be tted on real-life parent-offsprg pairs, but he says this epigeic lk mak more sense than any other explanatn, and that his team has mapped out a way for other scientists to tt their work. Gay men are generally more feme due to high trogen levels, this n effect how good you are a sport and many other aspects of masculy.

REPORTED EFFECTS OF MASCULE IALS ON GAY MEN

I also didn’t say the guy my town was gay, but he still pi those flamboyant, over-exaggerated behavrs that you don’t see women. Me and my boyiend were talkg about this a ltle while ago (he liv near the Castro) We me to the ncln that maybe the “over-the-top” behavr (as perceived by some people) of some gay men n be explaed by the fact that they are fally an non-judgmental environment where they n be who they want to be, and they want to show that to everyone around them.

Many gay men show the mannerism form an early age, some way before they know they’re gay, and most before they’re out at gay clubs, etc.

I realized this very moment as I was gog back through the qutns that I missed when you said this: “I also didn’t say the guy my town was gay, but he still pi those flamboyant, over-exaggerated behavrs that you don’t see women. (and I answered this sometime the past on Fluther and n’t remember where) some gay men act an ‘effemate’ manner bee they see some others the muny act that way and bee of the procs of mimicry, they pick up (what some s are the only exampl of how to be ‘visibly gay’) those mannerisms orr to bond wh others and signal their sexualy…some men have the mannerisms sce childhood but many aren’t gay… some ways I believe (and ’s only a hypothis) some of the gay men rebel agast genr norms placed on them as men and pick up some norms allowed for women – then they exaggerate to make their own…I’ve heard gay men say “I do a woman better than a woman) and this relat to drag queen performance and that whole subculture…there are many var reasons, I suppose. If a straight person asks a qutn about gay people, or mis-genred people, is immediately assumed by a certa kd of person that they are beg judgmental or prejudiced, or whatever.