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class><div class="available-ntent"><div dir="to" class="body markup"><p></p><div data-ponent-name="SubscribeWidget" class="subscribe-widget"><div class="pencraft ontend-pencraft-Box-module__ret--VfQY8 ontend-pencraft-Box-module__display-flex--ZqeZt ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-jtify-center--SQPji"><div class="ontend-ponents-ee_email_form-module__ntaer--OfBh4"><form actn="/api/v1/ee?nojs=te" method="post" noValidate class="form ontend-ponents-ee_email_form-module__form--LDIzl"><put type="hidn" name="first_url" /><put type="hidn" name="first_referrer" /><put type="hidn" name="current_url" /><put type="hidn" name="current_referrer" /><put type="hidn" name="referral_" /><put type="hidn" name="source" value="subscribe-widget" /><put type="hidn" name="referrg_pub_id" /><put type="hidn" name="addnal_referrg_pub_ids" /><div class="ontend-ponents-ee_email_form-module__siBySiWrap--yhsgv"><put type="email" name="email" placeholr="Type your email..." class="pencraft 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Years? lennia?) beg force fed vios of a certa bald Bugatti owner. He’s the kd of easy target people love to hate. His pots are so easily disproven, his persona so ripe for mockery, his accent so very stupid that the jok wre themselv. People reference his rabid fanbase but I highly doubt </span><em>that </em><span>man would have gotten the reach he did if weren’t for him beg such an easy punchle for the termally onle liberal crowd. While I’m sure some people, </span><a href=" rel>particularly young boys, tly bought to his teachgs disturbg ways</a><span>, I spect a lot of the wave of support he saw was reactnary. Much like Tmp, he’s so patently ridiculo as a person that you n only admire him if you see the other si as somehow even more outrageo. He’s not imprsive outsi of a purely materialistic fantasy. He has no personal morals or prcipl to speak of. I saw an early vio of him braggg that he wouldn’t pay for a girl’s lunch, but when the time me he lacked the guts to simply refe and hold his ground so he ma up a half-baked story about leavg 50k sh his lndry. This is a guy braggg to the men watchg about his alpha male behavur who knows that real life women won’t actually be imprsed by . His posturg, his machismo, all this was for the men around him. Sure, some poor pick-m got ught the cross hairs and claimed to be to his alpha male schtick (probably hopg to tch a man wh a Bugatti but whout a podst), but his act was never meant for them. So, how do a group of “progrsiv” lookg for an easy target, an easy, punchy crique wh no cril thkg required cricize the verbose woman-hatg subject of a Romanian sex traffickg sndal? Easy! A solutn so simple almost every 12 year old 2008 thought of already.</span></p><h3 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget"><em><strong> Call him gay!</strong></em><div id="§ll-him-gay" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h3><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="750" height="1334" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" fetchprry="high" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p><span>Now, I’m gog to break down this argument, which, while clearly a joke, I thk is wrong on several levels— not even jt morally speakg, but on a purely factual basis. Morally I also fd obvly reprehensible to a) blame misogyny on another margalized group and b) e gay as an sult when </span><a href=" rel>Hilary Duff end homophobia over a ago</a><span> , but let’s be logil here, I know how you alpha mal love .</span></p><h4 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget"><span>Premise 1: </span><em>Gay men hate women.</em><div id="§premise-gay-men-hate-women" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h4><p>While I will not ny that some gay men hate women, the same way many women hate women, is simply not a requirement. This is not a se of e and effect. You aren’t gay bee you don’t love women, you’re gay bee you like men. No amount of woman hatg will pensate for not beg to dus. Andrew Tate is not gettg onto any pri floats until he actually gets a boyiend. Man up Andy.</p><h4 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget"><span>Premise 2: </span><em>Straight men love women.</em><div id="§premise-straight-men-love-women" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h4><p><span>The word love gets thrown out all of the vios. But love isn’t the same as sexualy. No one ever says you n’t be a misogynist and be </span><em>attracted </em><span>to women—we’ve all been attracted to people we don’t love or even rpect. That’s a blogy issue, not a moral one. Bigots are </span><em>attracted </em><span>to people they hate all the time. Racists often fetishize the people they seek to margalize.</span><a href=" rel> Lbian was the most popular PornHub search term 42 stat 2017</a><span>, cludg </span><em>every sgle southern state</em><span>. Texas, Arkansas, Indiana and Wt Virgia, all red stat who banned gay marriage until was emed unnstutnal, searched for lbians more than any other stat. The bible belt isn’t full of secret alli, let alone full of state’s worth of secret lbians (although image how great life would be if they were). The men don’t want to love women. They want to sleep wh them. They want to ntrol them. They want to be admired by them. They want to be seen wh them. They want to posss them. And they n do all that whout lovg them. When the guys say they need a trophy wife, ’s not bee they need a wife. It’s bee they need a trophy.</span></p><h4 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget"><span>Premise 3: </span><em>Gay guys are the on dog this to </em><div id="§premise-gay-guys-are-the-on-dog-this-to-" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h4><p><em>Here’s where everyone is gog to acce me of beg unable to take a joke, of takg thgs too serly. To that I say: make better jok. Get creative. I’ll lgh then. Promise.</em></p><p><span>Sayg that men who hate women are gay impli that misogyny is gay people’s flt. I know, I know. That’s not what you meant! You have gay iends! You’re not g gay as an sult a nasty, homophobic, 2008 way! You’re g as a girlboss clapback 2022! It’s not that ep! Or IS that ep, too ep for </span><em>me </em><span>to unrstand, and your implitn that misogyny is a rponse to ternalized homophobia is actually very nuanced and progrsive and passnate, and </span><em>I’m </em><span>the problem for even assumg you meant as an sult! I really don’t give a fuck. Tell yourself what you need to tell yourself. But sayg that homophob were secretly gay didn’t sudnly flg open the doors of their closets. It meant that a certa tegory of person uld say that homophobia was the rult of a personal issue, of someone not like you. It’s a problem for the gays to sort out amongst themselv. It’s an easy way of phg a problem off to the si, of makg an issue of someone else’s datg pool. And yeah, there’s a reason so many people still believe that a disproportnate number child abers or serial killers are secretly gay. It’s borg. I’m over . At least Nancy Regan served her gay panic wh a si of sloppy toppy. Make new jok.</span></p><p>But once we unpack this particular sipid argument, we are left wh a valid qutn buried unrneath a quippy layer of t-shirt slogan irony:</p><h3 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget">If misogynists aren’t gay, why are they so obssed wh other men?<div id="§if-misogynists-arent-gay-why-are-they-so-obssed-wh-other-men" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h3><p><span>Well, I’m not a man, so I n’t say for sure. But I have a theory. And luckily, so do a lot of people smarter than me. Let’s lead wh a quote that did absolute </span><em>numbers </em><span>on tumblr back ye ol days:</span></p><h5>“To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage sex (fuckg exclively wh the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertas to love, most straight men rerve exclively for other men. The people whom the admire, rpect, adore, revere, honor, whom the imate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willg to teach and om whom they are willg to learn, and whose rpect, admiratn, regnn, honor, reverence and love they sire… those are, overwhelmgly, other men. In their relatns wh women, what pass for rpect is kdns, generosy or paternalism; what pass for honor is removal to the pestal. From women they want votn, service and sex.”</h5><h5>-Marilyn Frye, The Polics of Realy, 1983</h5><p>Men and women are raised our society to see each other as pletely separate cultur— cultur that teract, cultur that even pend on each other, but not cultur that ever tly unrstand each other. Men are om Mars, women are om Ven. Men are Bra, and women are Ireland—for generatns one had plete ntrol over the other, there were years of vlence and turbulence, and now that we’ve reached a treaty, an uneasy alliance, one si believ that the playg field is level, feels that the other si did jt as much damage and may even on some level thk that thgs were better off the way they were before. The other si still feels a bter rentment for the other after many lifetim of unspeakable trma, but at least now they n pay their own tax and make jok about their former opprsors. This metaphor got away om me a lot quicker than I expected to. My apologi to the natn of Ireland.</p><p>We are tght to fd solace and pannship wh our rpective cultur. Women seek sisterhood. We seek an opportuny to exprs our feelgs whout havg to dilute or translate them, an unrstandg we assume no man will ever have. We say “boys will be boys!” (or more recently make tiktoks wh Lana l Rey lyrics pog the same sentiment) and absolve men of the rponsibily of gettg to tly know , bee at least the girls will always get . We n always go home. We hope to fd a partner om across the pond, but at the end of the day we know what’s safe, what’s fortable. The most adventuro (and annoyg) among seek to move abroad— they only hang out wh guys bee ’s “ls drama”. But when that blows up their face they go home too. We are tght that the thg we are supposed to want most sperately is the thg most likely to kill . We know where the danger is, and we know where home is, and we’ve been told we n rely on for some small sense of safety.</p><p><span>Men have a siar solidary, although manifts very differently. Men are tght that women are nquts, trophi to be won. They’re mothers, sisters, dghters, and wiv. Women as a group aren’t to be feared the same way, but they still aren’t to be tsted. They’re sctable, impossible to unrstand pletely. They play md gam, they’re fickle. Alphas and cels tell young men that women are only lookg for a wealthy, attractive partner to fund their liftyle. They say that women will not hate to leave them the send their hairle reces or their waistle expands, unls they brg somethg material to the table, and unlike women there is no sanctuary of sisterhood to return to if your partner, the one source of emotnal support many men have, leav. Is any wonr that boys growg up beg told that </span><em>this</em><span> is what they have to expect om women have no rpect for them? That stead of seekg women out as panns, they seek them out as somethg to be won, somethg to prove that they provi somethg worth havg? </span></p><p>Women fear men, bee they have reason to. Countls statistics tell to. Hell, by the time we h 18 most of have firsthand experienc backg those statistics. And ’s really fuckg lonely. It’s hard gog your whole life beg told that the group of people that your soulmate, your life partner, your reason for livg belongs to is the same group of people you need to protect yourself agast. And beg onle hearg nstant horror stori only mak worse. </p><p>For young men, men who believe themselv to be good people, or at least not threateng on, there’s still nfn. You’re told that the group of people you want and sire may not ever sire you back. They may even fear you, even if you’ve done nothg wrong. The bt you n hope for is a symbtic relatnship, both of you g each other for whatever you’re worth. You’re told not to rpect the people, that they’re never unrstand you, never be your tellectual equal. What a miserable prospect mt be to be 15 and told that you’ll one day eher die alone or spend your whole life wh someone you n’t rpect. </p><p><span>Bee men’s opns are valued so highly, society tells all of that our self worth will e om male approval. For women, we are only tly worthy, tly sirable if a man wants . But this also appli to other men. Men are only tly worthy if they’ve ma somethg of themselv that other men will admire, be jealo of. If you get a girliend, has to be someone who imprs your iends, one other men want but nnot have. Andrew Tate talks about the women his life like he talks about his stupid fuckg Bugatti’s. You want them, and you don’t have them. He n get whatever he wants, and you n’t. It’s why he’s idolized by men—bee he has what they know they’re </span><em>supposed</em><span> to want. He isn’t actually wanted by women. It’s not women on the podsts talkg about how sirable he is. He has no legn of groupi, no real female fanbase to speak of— fact he’s part of several </span><a href=" rel>active vtigatns to sex traffickg</a><span>, somethg that adds a new and horrifyg dimensn to everythg he preach. He don’t tell the guys how to get a woman they love, how to treat a woman well. He tells them how to get a girl who will imprs the men their liv. He tells them how to treat a woman while still beg an “alpha”, still livg up to the standards of those men. And he do bee he knows that vulnerable men enterg a world of datg they have been set up to view as hostile and ighteng are a voted and profable mographic. If you tell someone that all their worst fears are te, and then tell them how to overe them, you not only ga a fan, you ga a disciple. Now, you’re a savur. The young boys are growg up a society that is very much segregated by genr, pecially when you’re younger. If the boys heard what women really wanted, learned to rpect them as equals and value their opns, they might realize that the securi men like Andrew Tate prof off of aren’t as big a al as they thought. They might fd fulfillg relatnships, learn to view themselv as dividuals. They certaly wouldn’t listen to ex Big Brother nttants on the n om the law for advice. The further “alpha mal” n drive the genr divis home, the stronger they n grip onto the boys. They want a monopoly. And </span><em>that’s</em><span> why they only re about men. Complexy, growth, the thgs don’t sell. Real muny isn’t profable, exclivy is. They don’t re about women bee ’s never been about women. They don’t love women, bee they don’t need women.</span></p><p>They don’t love men, but they need them.</p><div class="subscriptn-widget-wrap"><div class="subscriptn-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p>Thanks for readg my ramblgs. 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“Fellas, is gay to make money??

I mean you’re jt llectg pictur of other men, ” Twter personaly Childish Sadbo recently tweeted, one of many “fellas” mem to recently pop up onle, skewerg how obssed a lot of guys are wh not “seemg” gay. ”At least amongst the guys onle, the “gay” part is no longer the bnt of their macho jok — the pulsive sire to assert one’s straightns is. An creasg and alarmg number of cishet men performg purportedly homosexual behavr n be seen on social media.

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Current rearch suggts there is also a crease homophobia and homohysteria.

Our study aims to explore how chang support of homosexualy have also changed the language of homosocial relatnships. In this ntext, homohysteria is fed as the heterosexual’s fear of beg thought gay when performg genr atypil behavrs.

Homophobia is fed as attus and behavrs that monstrate tolerance of sexual acts, inti, moraly, and the rights of homosexuals.

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To tt our hypothis that cisgenr heterosexual (cishet) men will e language monly xed and rrelated wh the language of women and homosexual men when teractg homosocial nversatns wh close iends, we analyzed 40 TikTok vios which featured cishet men homosocial environments, and rerd five 30–40-mute nversatns that took place eher person or onle via Zoom and Disrd. We found that cishet men, when a fortable settg wh other cishet men, seem to e lguistic patterns that are typilly xed wh cishet women and gay men.

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The most puzzlg part: the #nohomo and #homiexual tags unrneath.

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In recent years, ntemporary pop culture seems to have an obssn wh homosexualy — jt whout the part that requir anyone volved to actually intify as non-heterosexual. Like the TikToks mentned above, var other social platforms, such as YouTube and Instagram, seem to be beg home to male fluencers engagg “gay” behavrs wh other men, spe neher party volved actually intifyg as part of the LGBTQ+ muny. From the inic “Two bros stg a hot tub” Ve (Figure 1, re-upload to YouTube here), to recent onle disurse about men keepg their socks on durg sex acts wh other men to keep “no homo” (Figure 2), performative homosexualy seems to always be played for edic effect.

However, wh the emergence of the phenomenon of men “playg gay” onle njunctn wh the troductn of words like “homiexual, ” we were cur as to the ways which language played a role homosocial relatnships, or the relatnships between cisgenr heterosexual mal. A famo Ve where the er zooms on two men, distanced a hot tub, while sgg “Two bros stg a hot tub five feet apart ‘cuz they’re not gay. Current lerature intifi three phenomena — homophobia, homohysteria, and queerbag — as re to the emergence of the inty of the homiexual, which, acrdg to the NYT volv “straight men who go beyond bromance and display nonsexual signs of physil affectn.

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Fellas, is gay to acknowledge another man’s existence before 12 p.m.? * fellas is it gay to *

Homophobia is an umbrella term for all attus and behavrs that monstrate tolerance of sexual acts, inti, moraly, and the rights of homosexuals (McCormack & Anrson, 2014). Homohysteria volv the heterosexual male fear of beg thought gay when performg genr atypil behavrs (McCormack, 2011). Queerbag and gayba are the liberate sertn of homoerotic subtext orr to urt a queer followg whout actualizg the subtext (Brennan, 2018).

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Primarily, rearch on the subject centers on how creas the acceptance of homosexualy and creas homophobia and homohysteria have led to new terpretatns of what means to be a cishet male (McCormack & Anrson, 2010; McCormack, 2011). Our rearch aims to fill the gap between the intifitn of the cultural phenomena and the analysis of specific lguistic forms and explore how chang support of homosexualy have also changed homosocial relatnships.

There has also been some study of the ncept of “soundg gay” and the ia that non-heterosexual men, specifilly homosexual men, often x the speech of heterosexual men orr to seem “straight passg” (Gd, 1994). We hypothize that cisgenr, heterosexual (cishet) men will e language monly xed and rrelated wh the language of women and homosexual men when teractg homosocial nversatns wh close iends. We analyzed 40 TikTok vios om pilatn vios on YouTube wh tl such as “straight guys beg gay guys” or om the TikTok tags “#nohomo” or #homiexual”.

G., “gay chicken”). signals of disfort after iatg gay behavr. edic effect created through homohysteria.

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hypersexualizatn of gayns (e. G., horns or makg sexual advanc beg the foremost marker of gayns).

gayns beg graed heterosexual male iendships. e of the phrase “no homo” to ward off homosexualy.

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Fdgs om the TikToks n be grouped to three tegori: homohysteria and heteronormativy, genr rol and misnceptns about homosexualy, and the spectm, or lack thereof, of male timacy.

Homohysteria and heteronormativy. TikTok creators relied on the ncept of heteronormativy, the assumptn that everyone is straight, as well as the normalizatn of homohysteria to create a edic effect. Cishet men also played up homohysteria for humor by actg gay or htg at one another’s gayns, while simultaneoly exprsg disfort.

Heteronormativy also manifted self more subtly other ways: men filmed gay TikToks ont of their girliends, rercg the norm of heterosexual hegemony by g the ia of gay upl as a joke (Figure 3). Genr rol and misnceptns of homosexualy. Other TikToks revealed the genr norms prevalent between male relatnships, as well as a clear misterpretatn of homosexualy by cishet men.

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Cishet men, actg gay, often joked that their girliends wouldn’t “fd out” ignorg moraly (of cheatg on a signfint other) favor of producg a humoro effect (Figure 3). They also hypersexualized gayns; many teractns volved words such as “horny, ” “sexy, ” and words relatg to the sexual ans, and behavrs such as moang or eatg a ssage. This hypersexualizatn often blurred the le of fort for those on the receivg end of a straight man’s gay advanc—many men were nfed and/or unfortable, as evinced by their facial exprsns or verbal reactns, even though they did not rist (Figure 5).

The behavrs signal misnceptns, often harmful, about male homosexualy—that homosexualy is herently more sexual or ls ethil than heterosexualy.

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In particular, men equently said “no homo” to immediately elimate any assumptns of legimate homosexualy. On the other end of the spectm, they often played “gay chicken” ( which they ntued to act more and more gay until one person fally cracked) or tried to one-up each other acts of gayns. Cisgenr and heterosexual men, teractns wh other cisgenr and heterosexual men, tend to e lguistic patterns xed wh gay men or straight women; the patterns clu higher tonatn and hedgg.

In addn, cishet men e flirtat speech the homosocial environments, such as pliments, pet nam, and sexually-charged ments, many of which were observed wh higher tonatn. An important note to make, however, is that spe siari speech patterns, many of the behavrs cishet men exhib homosocial settgs are not xed wh gay men or straight women. The ma ncln we n draw om our fdgs is that spe creasg levels of homophobia and shiftg views on non-tradnal forms of masculy, sexualy, and genr, heteronormativy and genr norms rema prevalent.

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As explaed the analysis sectn, cishet men’s “gay act” reli on heteronormativy to create humor the first place. The nventn of male domance also may expla the petive aspect of actg gay.

Th, although cishet men know how to x gay or non-cishet male inti, as dited by their shifted speech patterns, they are still heavily fluenced by larger outsi forc that suggt our views have yet to fully break away om the heterosexual and patriarchal norms. Everyone Is Gay on TikTok (New York Tim).

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Soundg gay: Pch properti the speech of gay and straight men. (2011) Mappg the Terra of Homosexually-Themed Language, Journal of Homosexualy, 58:5, 664-679, DOI: 10.

The clg signifince of homohysteria for male stunts three sixth forms the south of England. The fluence of clg homophobia on men’s genr the Uned Stat: An argument for the study of homohysteria.

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Fellas, is gay to acknowledge another man’s existence before 12 p. That’s the qutn that has recently set r/AskMenAdvice ablaze, as Reddor u/Kylechs reunted one extremely awkward teractn that ma him qutn the homoerotic unrton of the phrase “good morng. You unrstand me, ’” he relled of their discsn, notg that his dad suggted he swap “good morng” for the evintly ls homoerotic greetgs of '’What's up or what's gog on.

When is ever gay or wrong for a man to say good morng to another man? “‘Good morng’ = gay.

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‘Top of the morng to ya’ = gay and Irish.

‘G’day mate’ gay and Asie.

”So take om the fe people of r/AskMenAdvice – the only time ’s gay for a man to say “good morng” to another du is if ’s to his boyiend – ially wh a ltle kiss on the cheek for good, gay measure.

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