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article-body__ntent"><div class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP bwyLBj"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eOdfIs"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p> </p><p>When <a href=">Frank Ocean</a> me out as bisexual a betiful, raw Tumblr note 2012, right before the release of his soon-to-be crilly acclaimed but album <em>Channel Orange</em>, felt like everythg had changed. While hip-hop and R&B, had been monly wrten off as herently homophobic, the rponse to Ocean’s emotnal letter was mostly posive, wh many praisg the one-of-a-kd talent for his bravens and honty. As a young gay Black boy who grew up stgglg to reckon my love for hip-hop, rap, and R&B wh the homophobic sentiments often rattled off, Frank’s g out was a pivotal moment — one that let me know I wasn’t alone and that society uld be ready to accept others like me, too.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Apparently, I wasn’t the only young gay Black boy who felt that sense of lmg support followg Ocean’s g out. Durg a <a href=">recent holiday episo</a> of Zane Lowe’s #AtHomeWhAppleMic show, Lil Nas X, an openly gay rapper himself, revealed how much Frank Ocean — and his close llaborator Tyler, The Creator, who is also openly queer — has meant for his reer. Drsed a full Old Santa stume, plete wh silver gray beard and matchg unly mane (a look he playfully jok is his attempt at beg “lowkey”), <a href=">the multi-Grammy Award wner</a> spoke ndidly about the lastg impact the artists had on him.</p><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn iezhXq llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><div class="ContentCardEmbedWrapper-kULtsE iGAJsG ntent-rd-embed ntent-rd-embed--stacked" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedWrapper"><div class="ContentCardEmbedImage-iwqgVw jlIubp ntent-rd-embed__image" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedImage"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa rponsive-image"><img alt="Lil Nas X" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w" siz="100vw"/></picture></span></div><div class="ContentCardEmbedInfo-bDftKl bGnSrq"><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentCardEmbedHed-kJVPGC iUEiRd gFmvMS cewqFA ntent-rd-embed__hed" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedHed"><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ContentCardEmbedHedLk-eXLwe iUEiRd gFmvMS hRaEiJ eFUKSb ntent-rd-embed__hed-lk" href="/story/lil-nas-x-g-out" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedHedLk">Lil Nas X Jt Came Out, and Mastream Hip-Hop Is About to Change Forever</a></div><div data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedDek" class="ContentCardEmbedDek-bA-DKch hXdQfY">The genre-fyg rapper is the latt Black man to brg queerns to hip-hop.</div></div></div></div><p>After exprsg his approval of Lil Nas X’s cisn to place risg R&B sger Kaash Paige si-by-si wh Frank Ocean <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"> a playlist</a> the rapper curated for Apple Mic listeners, Zane Lowe asked the young sger how Frank Ocean factored to his life, as both a fan and an artist. “I thk artists like Frank, general, and like Tyler [the Creator] and whatever, they ma easier for me to be where I am, fortably,” he rpond. “Also, ‘<a href=">Provir</a>’ was like a very special song to me durg this relatnship that I was . So yeah, go, Frank! He’s amazg.”</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>At the mentn of “relatnship,” Lowe asked Lil Nas whether or not the forced stagnancy of the COVID-19 panmic has allowed him to explore personal relatnships a way he might not have been able to if he were workg durg a normal year full of prs, performanc, and tourg. “I’m such a loner of a person. Like, I hontly like beg alone,” Nas admted turn. “Sometim I’ll nvce myself, like, <em>no, I need more people!</em> But then I’m like, <em>ugh, I wanna be alone aga</em>. So relatnships, for me, have been like…,” he trails off before snappg his fgers quick succsn to dite how temporary the majory of his personal nnectns have been. “I gus ’s mostly bee I still don’t know what I want a relatnship or what not, bee, you know, I didn’t get to date when I was younger. So ’s fely tertg.”</p><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn iezhXq llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><div class="ContentCardEmbedWrapper-kULtsE iGAJsG ntent-rd-embed ntent-rd-embed--stacked" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedWrapper"><div class="ContentCardEmbedImage-iwqgVw jlIubp ntent-rd-embed__image" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedImage"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa rponsive-image"><img alt="Lil Nas X" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w" siz="100vw"/></picture></span></div><div class="ContentCardEmbedInfo-bDftKl bGnSrq"><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentCardEmbedHed-kJVPGC iUEiRd gFmvMS cewqFA ntent-rd-embed__hed" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedHed"><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ContentCardEmbedHedLk-eXLwe iUEiRd gFmvMS hRaEiJ eFUKSb ntent-rd-embed__hed-lk" href="/story/lil-nas-x-g-out-guardian-terview" data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedHedLk">“I Planned to Die Wh the Secret”: Lil Nas X Opens Up About Comg Out</a></div><div data-ttid="ContentCardEmbedDek" class="ContentCardEmbedDek-bA-DKch hXdQfY">The “Old Town Road” mician also plans to “explore” his queer inty his but album.</div></div></div></div><p>Robbed childhoods me up aga as the rapper talked about g quarante to “strengthen my relatnship wh myself.” Nas nfs that he had a history wh self-hatred his youth, somethg many queer kids n relate to. “I grew up a lot havg this hidn self-hatred for myself and not even realizg that was there,” he begs. “And I gus havg somethg where I n be super creative and exprs myself has fely brought forward how much, no matter what happens, I’m always gog to be there for myself.” As such, the rapper is proud that he’s been able to ternalize this self-sufficient realy, spendg the past few months of the panmic “learng to love myself more and realizg that sometim I wasn’t dog that, jt beg more nfint what I’m dog and blockg out anybody’s negativy.” As he lets off, “If ’s not good crique, then ’s not for me.”</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="ae0ri3"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="4bmgv"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Of urse, Lil Nas X has been on a journey of self-disvery ever sce <a href=">he me out</a> at the peak of his populary followg the succs of “Old Town Road” 2019. “I hontly feel like I have my angels wh me at all tim. I jt felt like, <em>okay, ’s time to do this thg</em>. Bee ’s like, I’m already movg forward and I’m beg more ee wh everythg I do, so let’s take this to the next level and do this,” he told Lowe. “It was eher gog to be that or what? Pretend this for the rt of my entire life and also not be able to exprs that what I do, my mic?”</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="3otqph"></div></div><p>Perhaps the most excg reveal of Lil Nas X’s chat wh Lowe had to do wh his hotly anticipated, currently untled but album. “This album exuberat nfince, creativy, jt me pletely steppg out of my fort zone, sayg whatever I want, and givg my actual stori, givg my fans somethg to take om me,” he said. That n already be felt the album’s first sgle, “<a href=">Holiday</a>,” where the rapper is unaaid to heavily reference his now-public sexual orientatn, whether he’s jokg about bottomg “<a href=">on the low</a>” or talkg about <a href=">the doors he had to knock down</a> to achieve succs. Lil Nas X teas that this album will mark a huge pivot towards the personal parison to his chart-toppg <em>7 EP</em> om last year. “<em>7</em> was ol. I love <em>7</em>. It’s great,” he says. “But wasn’t personal enough and I feel like that’s exactly what this album is gonna brg.”</p><p>Check out Zane Lowe’s full nversatn wh Lil Nas X below.</p><figure data-ttid="IameEmbed" class="IameEmbedWrapper-sc-dRedg hZiq iame-embed"><div data-ttid="IameEmbedContaer" class="IameEmbedContaer-hptgUZ gwYBCr"><div class="IameEmbedAspectRatWrapper-hFVJps kaOLzO"><iame class="IameEmbedContent-cMdiev csnuAY IameEmbedContent lazyload" height="270" width="480" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-popups allow-same-orig" tle="Embedd Frame" data-src=" allow="toplay *; encrypted-media *; clipboard-wre; toplay; fullscreen; picture--picture"></iame></div></div></figure><p><em><strong>Get the bt of what’s queer.</strong></em> <a href=">Sign up for <em>them</em>.'s weekly newsletter here.</a></p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN 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is frank ocean gay

Frank Ocean is gay, or at least bisexual, acrdg to a post he put out on microbloggg platform tumblr.

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IS FRANK OCEAN GAY?

A qutn a lot of people are still askg is, 'Is Frank Ocean gay?' answered. We also lve to his lyrics, how they scribe inty, and what's gog on wh his Primavera Sound set. * is frank ocean gay *

21 Great Gay Moments In Mic. While hip-hop and R&B, had been monly wrten off as herently homophobic, the rponse to Ocean’s emotnal letter was mostly posive, wh many praisg the one-of-a-kd talent for his bravens and honty.

As a young gay Black boy who grew up stgglg to reckon my love for hip-hop, rap, and R&B wh the homophobic sentiments often rattled off, Frank’s g out was a pivotal moment — one that let me know I wasn’t alone and that society uld be ready to accept others like me, too. Apparently, I wasn’t the only young gay Black boy who felt that sense of lmg support followg Ocean’s g out. Durg a recent holiday episo of Zane Lowe’s #AtHomeWhAppleMic show, Lil Nas X, an openly gay rapper himself, revealed how much Frank Ocean — and his close llaborator Tyler, The Creator, who is also openly queer — has meant for his reer.

FRANK OCEAN: ‘I CRIED THE NIGHT I ME OUT AS GAY’

On “We All Try, ” the third track om his 2011 but mixtape nostalgia, ULTRA, he voiced support for gay marriage four years before beme legal natnwi:. The night the album dropped, Frank appeared on Late Night Wh Jimmy Fallon to but the song “Bad Relign, ” which ntas the most overt discsn of a gay relatnship on the album.

Frank ma a brief but important return June 21, 2016 after the Pulse Nightclub shootg Orlando, Fl., when he spoke out agast stutnal homophobia our society wh an emotnal Tumblr post, reflectg a siar msage to that of “Bad Relign. On the song “Skyle To, ” Frank returns to the ia of relig nmnatn of homosexualy while sgg about a sexual experience wh another man:. Frank was raised the South, where sayg someone has “sugar their step” or “sugar their tank” is slang for llg them gay.

FRANK OCEAN IS GAY? FANS REACT AFTER LEARNG OF ALLEGED HOMOSEXUALY

Is Frank Ocean Gay?

From "Good Guy": Here’s to the gay bar you took me to. To nclu: is Frank Ocean gay?

FUSE TV - TYLER, THE CREATOR KNEW FRANK OCEAN WAS GAY BEE OF HIS SNACK PREFERENC

Frank Ocean has said that he “cried like a fuckg baby” the night he me out as gay. The ‘Pyramids’ sger revealed that he was motivated to wre the post on Tumblr, which he said he was gay, after he Skyped to a Def Jam ‘Channel Orange’ listeng ssn and noticed one of the journalists was “very harmlsly” wrg a piece about how often he male pronouns songs.

GAY OR BI? THE DANGERS OF LABELG FRANK OCEAN

Ocean’s nfsn, which two days after Anrson Cooper‘s announcement that he is gay, sends a bold msage to the world of hip-hip, where homophobic ntent has equently been ndoned.

" "Frank Ocean Com Out and Be the First Gay Rapper History.

HIP-HOP WORLD GIV GAY SGER SUPPORT

" That last one is wrong on several levels: Ocean did not e the word "gay, " nor is he a rapper, nor would he be the first gay rapper if eher of those labels applied. Especially black mic, which has long been sperate need of a voice like Ocean's to break the layers of homophobia.

" At, Jaah Lemix noted that while few urban artists openly embrace homosexualy, many are "the closet wh the glass door, " livg a life they don't reveal their mic. "I hope that Frank Ocean don't bee 'the gay sger, ' for would be crimally unfair for him to wear that label as so many of his peers are sleepg wh and lovg same genred persons, while sellg imag of hyper-heterosexualy, " she wrote.

FRANK OCEAN GAY? RAPPER TALKS ABOUT MALE LOVER

Unlike the standard g out gture – newsman Anrson Cooper's public email to his iend Andrew Sullivan, "The fact is, I'm gay" — Ocean's prented sexualy as somethg that aris wh particular circumstanc, fed by shiftg sire and dividual enunters rather than solidifyg as an inty. There is a leage of Ain Amerin artists who've prented broar fns of sexualy through their songs and their public personali, as well, though homophobia has certaly kept many more om livg fully hont liv. Gospel mic thory Anthony Heilbut's newly published book of says discs the impact of "the gay men of gospel, " om key mil archects like Jam Cleveland to crossover figur like Bayard Rt.

FRANK OCEAN’S LGBT MASTERPIECE: THE RADIL QUEERNS OF ‘BLON’UNKNOWABLEFRANK OCEAN’S SEND ALBUM REF FN. IT BENDS GENRE, TIME, AND GENR, ALL THE SERVICE OF STAYG TE TO HIMSELF. MIC IS ALL THE BETTER FOR .AMY ZIMMERMANENTERTAMENT REPORTERUPDATED APR. 13, 2017 3:07PM EDT FILMMAGICLIKE MANY OUTSIRS, FRANK OCEAN BETRAYS AN OBSSN WH INTI AND OBJECTS JT BEYOND HIS REACH. IN AN EXCERPT OM THE BOYS DON’T CRY MAGAZE RELEASED LAST WEEK ALONGSI AN ALBUM, BLON, A VISUAL ALBUM, ENDLS, AND A MIC VIO FOR THE SONG “NIK,” OCEAN WR ABOUT AN IMAGE OF A YOUNG GIRL A R. “I PUT MYSELF HER SEAT THEN I PLAYED ALL OUT MY HEAD. THE CLSTROPHOBIA HS AS THE SEATBELT TIGHTENS, PREVENTG ME OM EVEN LEANG FORWARD MY SEAT. THE PRSG ON TERNAL ANS. I LEAN BACK AND FORWARD TO RELEASE . THEN BACKWARDS AND FORWARD AGA. THERE IS—I GOT EE.” LATER THE NOTE, HE REMEMBERS, “RAF SIMONS ONCE TOLD ME WAS CLICHé, MY WHOLE R OBSSN. MAYBE LKS TO A EP SUBNSC STRAIGHT BOY FANTASY. CONSCLY THOUGH, I DON’T WANT STRAIGHT—A LTLE BENT IS GOOD.” OCEAN IS SCRIBG HIS R FANATICISM, AN OBSSN THAT HAS FED HIM, WHILE SIMULTANEOLY ARTICULATG A EP ALIENATN. HE DO NOT F THE STEREOTYPE OF THE STRAIGHT, SUBURBAN BOY WH AN ENCYCLOPEDIC KNOWLEDGE OF TOMOBIL. IN FACT, HE SEEMGLY FDS EASIER TO ACCS HIS MEMORI THROUGH THE FIGURE OF THE YOUNG GIRL, WHOSE SEATBELT VOK A GUT MEMORY OF ENTRAPMENT. TO SAY THAT BLON IS NOT STRAIGHT IS AN UNRSTATEMENT. THE ALBUM—ALONG WH THE VISUAL ALBUM, ART MAGAZE, AND “NIK” VIO—BENDS GENRE, BENDS GENR, AND BENDS TIME. OCEAN DRIV HIS R ACROSS UNTRI AND S, MEANRG, AND ZIG-ZAGGG. RETURNG AGA AND AGA TO SCEN OM HIS CHILDHOOD AND ADOLCENCE, OCEAN LEAV LEARY BY THE SI OF THE ROAD. MIC BE A VEHICLE PABLE OF IMPOSSIBLE MOVEMENT, RRYG SI A THOUGHT, SI A MOMENT, SI A FANTASY. BLON’S UNNVENTNAL NARRATIVE MIRRORS THE REAL-LIFE STORY OF HOW THE ALBUM GOT HERE, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT FORMS HAS TAKEN THROUGHOUT S EXTEND GTATN. SCE THE RELEASE OF HIS LAST ALBUM CHANNEL ORANGE 2012, OCEAN HAS BEEN TEASG AT THIS RETURN, RELEASG VAR RELEASE DAT ONLY TO ABANDON THEM. THE JOURNALISTS WHO HAVE BEEN BURNED BY BROKEN PROMIS AND THE FANS WHO HAVE EAGERLY AWAED OCEAN’S SOPHOMORE ALBUM HAVE NMNED THE SGER AS OUTRAGEOLY, UNNECSARILY EVASIVE. PERFECTNISM IS ONE THG, BUT WHAT’S THE POT OF SETTG ADL ONLY TO FY THEM? OR BUILDG A STAIRSE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE MAKG MIC? OR STEPPG SO FAR OUT OF GENRE THAT HALF THE TRACKS ON YOUR ALBUM DON’T EVEN HAVE A DM BEAT? FRANK OCEAN DASH EXPECTATNS AND REF FNS FOR A REASON. HIS PHOBIA OF LABELS AND LIMS ISN’T JT AN AFFECTATN—S SENTIAL TO HIS ART AND HIS SELF-EXPRSN. IN 2012, ON THE CP OF CHANNEL ORANGE’S RELEASE, THE CRILLY ACCLAIMED ARTIST PUBLISHED A SCRIPTN OF HIS FIRST LOVE, A MALE IEND WHO DIDN’T ROMANTILLY RECIPROTE. OCEAN’S SEXUALY IS, AS HE SCRIB , “DYNAMIC”—A SELF-ASSSMENT THAT HASN’T STOPPED JOURNALISTS OM PIGEONHOLG HIM AS BISEXUAL OR GAY. THIS REFAL OF NVENTNAL TERMS IS BEG MORE AND MORE MON AMONG YOUNGER GENERATNS, WHO CREASGLY REJECT BARY NSTCTS. DYNAMISM IS AT THE HEART OF BOTH THE ARTIST AND HIS OVRE. IT’S ALSO PART OF AN EVER-EVOLVG FN OF QUEERNS. JT LIKE BLON, WHICH REF TO STAND STILL, QUEERNS IS LS OF A LOTN OR ENDPOT AND MORE OF A HORIZON. IN THE WORDS OF QUEER THEORIST JOSé MUñOZ, “QUEERNS IS NOT YET HERE… PUT ANOTHER WAY, WE ARE NOT YET QUEER. WE MAY NEVER TOUCH QUEERNS.” HERE QUEERNS IS FED NOT BY A STATN OR A TERM, BUT BY NSTANT MOTN. FOR OCEAN, THIS THEORIZATN IS TANTAMOUNT. AS OCEAN TOLD GQ 2012 REGARDS TO HIS UNTEGORIZED SEXUALY AND MIC, “I’M GIVG YOU WHAT I FEEL LIKE YOU N FEEL… THE OTHER SH, YOU N’T FEEL. YOU N’T FEEL A BOX. YOU N’T FEEL A LABEL.” BY REFG TO CLAIM AN INTY, HE RERV THE RIGHT TO NSTANTLY REFE.THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT BLON FULLY EVAS THE QUTN OF HOMOSEXUALY. IN “GOOD GUY,” OCEAN CROONS ABOUT BEG TAKEN ON A DATE TO A “GAY BAR.” THE DATE THEN FIZZL TO ROMANTIC DISAPPOTMENT: “I KNOW YOU DON’T NEED ME RIGHT NOW / AND TO YOU ’S JT A LATE NIGHT OUT.” OCEAN’S LGBT FLUENC ARE ALSO ON DISPLAY “AMBIENCE 001: IN A CERTA WAY,” A SHORT TERLU ON ENDLS THAT SAMPL THE VOICE OF INIC DRAG QUEEN CRYSTAL LABEIJA. BUT OCEAN REFERENC BCH JT AS OFTEN AS HE REFERENC BOYS. IT’S THE KD OF IRREVERENCE AND MUTABILY THAT MAK OCEAN SUCH A DIFFICULT GAY IN, AND SUCH AN TRIGUG QUEER ONE. FRANK DO NOT SEEM CLED TO TAKE ON ANY RPONSIBILI AS THE HIP-HOP WORLD’S PRE-EMENT GAY ARTIST—A LABEL HE’S NEVER CLAIMED AND DO NOT SEEM LIKELY TO. WHILE HE WROTE ELOQUENTLY AND OPENLY ON THE ORLANDO PULSE SHOOTG, BLON DON’T NTA ANY SIARLY POLIL GAY STATEMENTS OR LOGI. THROUGHOUT THE ALBUM, VISUAL ALBUM, AND MAGAZE, HE SEEMS MORE PREOCCUPIED WH DISORIENTATN THAN ORIENTATN. WHILE APPLE MIC LISTS THE ALBUM AS BLON, THE VER ART READS BLOND. THIS TERCHANGEABLE MASCULE AND FEME IS AT THE HEART OF THE VIO FOR “NIK,” A SONG NAMED AFTER A TRADNALLY MASCULE HIP-HOP FETISH. THE VIO WEAV TOGETHER SHOTS OF OCEAN GLTER AND HEAVY MAKP WH NU MEN AND WOMEN, DANCG ANGEL WGS. OCEAN’S ABILY TO SAMPLE OM GENRED ATHETICS AND EXPECTATNS EVEN AS HE PULLS OM VAR GENR AND DULG MULTIPLE MEDIA REVEALS HIS UNFLCHG MMENT TO FLEXIBILY ALL THGS. AND WHILE FRANK MAK THIS RTLSNS LOOK LIKE ART, AND EVEN MAK LOOK LIKE FUN, ’S MORE THAN JT LIGHTHEARTED EXPERIMENTATN. TO FE ONELF LEADS TO PRSUR AND RPONSIBILI—TO PRODUCE ANOTHER CHANNEL ORANGE, OR TO PEN THE NEXT GAY ANTHEM. ON “NIK,” OCEAN SHOUTS OUT TRAYVON MART, MG, “THAT N**** LOOKED JT LIKE ME.” INTI, OM RACE TO SEXUAL ORIENTATN, N TRAP, FE, EVEN KILL. ARTISTILLY, THEY N STAGNATE. AND SO, OCEAN KEEPS MOVG, CG OVER 40 MIL NTRIBUTORS ON AN ALBUM THAT REF TEGORIZATN OR IOLOGIL -OPTN.OF URSE, THE WAY OCEAN APPROACH QUEERNS IS PARTLY PRAGMATIC. HIP-HOP HAS NEVER HAD A GAY SUPERSTAR. AS A MUNY, THE HIP-HOP WORLD IS STILL PLAGUED BY HOMOPHOBIA, AND PROHIBIVE MOLDS OF MASCULY. WHILE MALE RAPPERS ARE EXPECTED TO ABI BY CERTA NVENTNS, THERE APPEARS TO BE A LOOPHOLE FOR MCS WHO HAVE EXPAND THEIR ARTISTIC REACH. ONE EXAMPLE IS YOUNG THUG, A RAPPER WHO WAS FEATURED CALV KLE’S AUTUMN/WTER 2016 MPAIGN. IN A VIO FOR THE BRAND, YOUNG THUG SPOKE TO HIS PENCHANT FOR PULLG OUTFS OM MENSWEAR AND WOMENSWEAR, EXPLAG, “I FEEL LIKE THERE IS NO SUCH THG AS GENR.” WHILE YOUNG THUG’S REMARKS TRIGGERED A B OF A BACKLASH, WH HIP-HOP FANS AND MEDIA OUTLETS MG ON HIS SEXUALY, THERE ALSO SEEMED TO BE AN CREASG UNRSTANDG THAT QUEERNS ISN’T SYNONYMO WH HOMOSEXUALY. IT’S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT YOUNG THUG STATED HIS PROGRSIVE PHILOSOPHY A FASHN FOM, NOT ON A TRACK OR A BREAKFAST CLUB TERVIEW. JAN SMH WAS SIARLY EMBRACED BY SARTORIAL TASTEMAKERS FOR HIS ANDROGYNO STYLE, PROVG THAT WHILE GENRED EXPERIMENTATN MIGHT BE RARE HIP-HOP, S MALE NIZENS N FD PRECENT AND ENURAGEMENT BY DIPPG TO OUTSI WORLDS. LIKE KANYE WT BEFORE HIM, FRANK OCEAN IS EXPLOG THIS DISTANCG LOOPHOLE BY PRENTG HIMSELF AS A MULTI-FACETED ARTIST. BY MAKG STAIRS, SHOOTG FILM, AND PRODUCG MAGAZ, OCEAN FI THE RAPPER LABEL JT AS HE SHIRKS A GAY OR BISEXUAL INTIFITN. BY LIBERATELY REFG TO BE KNOWN AS A GAY RAPPER OR A BISEXUAL MAN HIP-HOP, OCEAN N PARTIALLY SKIRT THE HOMOPHOBIC BIAS THAT THE HIP-HOP MUNY N’T SEEM TO SHAKE. QUEER, WHICH IS NOT A SGLE, STABLE INTY, MIGHT BE MORE ACCURATELY SCRIBED AS AN ACTIVE CRIQUE OF THE NORMAL AND THE NORMATIVE. NORMALY IS NOT UNIVERSALLY ACCSIBLE, OR UNIVERSALLY SIRED. THE QUEER SUBJECT, FORCED TO THE OUTSI, IS GIVEN THE PLITED GIFT OF PERSPECTIVE. BLON IS MA RICH THROUGH THIS LOOKG . FRANK OCEAN, A SEXUALLY FLUID, BLACK MAN WHO ATTEMPTS TO FY GENR, IS JT THE OUTSIR TO TAKE ON AMERI 2016. IN OCEAN’S PABLE HANDS, THE FAIAR BE STRANGE. IN BOYS DON’T CRY, OCEAN QUEERS AMERINA, PHOTOGRAPHG A MAN PUTTG ON HIS UNRWEAR A FIELD, AND SHARG IMAG OF YOUNG MEN WH TOMOBILE LOGOS SHAVED TO THEIR HEADS. IN A FEATURED POEM, KANYE WT MANAG TO WRE A EPLY UNSETTLG O TO THE MOST UBIQUO FAST-FOOD JOT AMERI: MCDONALD’S. IN “NIGHTS,” OCEAN IS HOMELS TEXAS AFTER BEG N OUT OF LOUISIANA BY HURRINE KATRA. IN ALL THE PLEMENTARY PROJECTS, THGS THAT ARE QUTSENTIALLY AMERIN—MCDONALD’S, RS, THE SOUTH—ARE TAKEN AND MA UNFAIAR AND DISQUIETG THROUGH THE LENS OF RACE, TRMA, AND SEXUALY. OCEAN’S UNIQUE MENTARY, AND THE ALIENATN THAT RMS , IS A QUIET, POWERFUL CRIQUE.IN THE WAKE OF RIGHTS-BASED VICTORI LIKE GAY MARRIAGE, SOME QUEER ACTIVISTS HAVE QUTNED A MOVEMENT THAT PRRIZ THE CHANCE TO BE THE SAME OVER THE EEDOM TO BE DIFFERENT. THIS IS WHERE OCEAN, AND HIS REJECTN OF THE STRAIGHT, TO PLAY. IN A PIECE OM BOYS DON’T CRY TLED “BOYIEND,” HE WR, “I ULD SAY THAT I’M HAPPY / THEY LET ME AND MY BOYIEND BEE MARRIED / I ULD SAY THAT I’M HAPPY / BUT CROSS MY HEART I DIDN’T NOTICE.” IT’S AS IF FRANK IS LIBERATELY PLAYG WH EXPECTATNS OR HOP FOR HIS GAY POLICS BY CLAIMG APOLICISM. OF URSE, QUEER FOLKS MIGHT ARGUE THAT THIS APATHY TOWARD MARRIAGE EQUALY IS A EPLY POLIL REJECTN OF HOMONORMATIVY. AND OCEAN GO BOTH WAYS—ON “SEIGIED,” HE PONRS AND THEN ULTIMATELY DISMISS THE ALLURE OF THE HETERONORMATIVE. OCEAN WONRS IF HIS LACK OF NVENTN MAK HIM A “FOOL”—“MAYBE I SHOULD MOVE / SETTLE DOWN, TWO KIDS AND A SWIMMG POOL.” BUT THE END, HE WAGERS, “I’D RATHER LIVE OUTSI.” IN BLON, “LIVG OUTSI” IS A PERSONAL SACRIFICE AND A RISKY WAGER. BARRED OM THE ACCEPTABILY OF STRAIGHT LOVE OR THE STABILY OF A LEGIBLE GAY INTY, OCEAN HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO KEEP MOVG, AND KEEP LONGG. VEXATN AND DISAPPOTMENT ARE EVERYWHERE, AND SATIATN SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE. WH SUCH AN UNCERTA FUTURE, HE LOOKS TO THE PAST AS HE HEADS FOR THE HORIZON. ON “FUTURA FREE,” THE FAL TRACK ON BLON, OCEAN EXCERPTS AN OLD NVERSATN BETWEEN HIS CHILDHOOD IENDS OM THE HIP-HOP CREW ODD FUTURE. ON AN ALBUM MARKED BY ROMANTIC DISILLNMENT, THIS RETURN EVOK THE FAY MAKG AND PLATONIC LOVE THAT IS SO VAL TO QUEER MUNI. IN A WORLD WHERE LOVE DISAPPOTS AND NORMALCY ISN’T AN OPTN, THERE’S AN ART TO MAKG YOUR OWN FAY, AND FDG TIMACY UNEXPECTED PLAC. OCEAN’S STEADY STREAM OF EMOTNALLY UNAVAILABLE PARTNERS, UNANSWERED TEXTS, UNFULFILLED DREAMS AND MISSED NNECTNS SPEAKS TO A SPECIFIC BRAND OF DISORIENTED SIR. IN MON PARLANCE, SEXUALY IS OFTEN RCED TO ORIENTATN. BUT QUEER THEORY PROPOS THAT THE SIRG SUBJECT IS SO MUCH MORE THAN THE GENR OF THE PERSON THEY HAVE SEX WH. THIS IS CERTALY THE SE FOR OCEAN—BLON ISN’T ABOUT WHO HE LOV, BUT HOW HE LOV THEM. HIS BRAVELY BROADSTED TIMACY IS PROOF THAT BOYS DO CRY, THAT SEXUALY N BE FLUID, THAT LOVE N BE UNREQUED, PLATONIC, QUEER, AND CEL. HE MAK THE FAIAR STRANGE, BUT HE ALSO MAK THE STRANGE FAIAR. EVEN THE MOST TRADNALLY MASCULE STRAIGHT BOY WILL SEE PIEC OF HIMSELF OCEAN’S FLUID OVRE—CHILDHOOD MEMORI THAT ULD BELONG TO ANY OF , TEXTS THAT SOUND FAIAR, LANDSP WE’VE SEEN, HALF-ASLEEP, OUT THE WDOW. IN QUEERG THE WORLD AND CHRONICLG THE QUEER, OCEAN’S BENT MASTERPIECE BRGS UNR-REPRENTED MOS OF SIRE TO THE MASTREAM. AMY ZIMMERMAN

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Compani</h2><h4 class="css-qsd3hm">Tech bs have been g onle wrg to velop their chatbots — whout permissn.</h4><time dateTime="2023-07-18T10:00:12.000Z" class="css-1e605">2023-07-18T06:00:12-04:00</time></div><dl class="css-p98d0w"><dt class="css-xx7kwh"></dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">This transcript was created g speech regnn software. While has been reviewed by human transcribers, may nta errors. Please review the episo d before quotg om this transcript and email wh any qutns.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">From “The New York Tim,” I’m Michael Barbaro. This is “The Daily.”</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">[MUSIC PLAYING]</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Today, to refe their popular technology, new artificial telligence platforms, like ChatGPT, are gobblg up the work of thors, poets, edians and actors, whout their nsent. As my lleague, Sheera Frenkel, found, a rebelln is brewg.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">It’s Tuday, July 18.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">[MUSIC PLAYING]</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Sheera, is really nice to have you back. It has been far too long.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I agree. It’s great to be back here.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">We are turng to you our ongog and very diligent efforts to unrstand this new era artificial telligence and the bate that is ragg over s like ChatGPT, which have put artificial telligence really at everyone’s fgertips.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And rrect me if I’m wrong, but really feels like this is shapg up as a clash between those who are really exced about the pabili of s like ChatGPT — you know, what n do next? This is so tertg. And this huge group of people who are jt eaked out about , right? And ’s gog too far, ’s too sry. And we’ve done a lot of episos about this. A recent one looked at stunts who love ChatGPT, bee n do their homework for them, and their teachers and profsors who are like, wa a mute, you’re basilly cheatg.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And you have been reportg on the latt chapter of this clash between human and mache. So tell about that.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Well, what I’ve been foced on is really jt all the battl over what go to the AI mach. And what mak them powerful, what mak them able to imate human voice is all of the ntent that we’ve put onle over all the years. It’s the poems, and the blogs, and the photographs, and the illtratns that are then pied, and scraped, and fed to the AI mach. It’s what teach them to imate human behavr.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Mm-hmm.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And the past six months, as this software has bee really powerful and very popular, more and more people have started askg qutns about whether they want their ntent fed to AI mach. And if they don’t want there, if there’s really anythg they n do about .</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So tell who exactly the people are who are askg the qutns.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">They kd of fall to two groups. There are the people who are dog so bee ’s their livelihood. They have a pyright on their material, and they have some kd of legal protectn agast their work.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">The other group are the hobbyists. They’re the people who are wrg stori for the fun of , that are jt creatg art bee they’re passnate about somethg. And they’re puttg stuff out to the ether of the ter. They love . They want to share wh the world. This is jt a te moment of human creativy.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">But, you know, both of the groups are seeg ChatGPT, they’re seeg the AI pani valued at hundreds of lns of dollars, and they’re realizg that their creativy is makg someone else a lot of money. And they’re feelg exploed. They’re feelg like their creativy, their moment of spiratn is beg ed.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So let’s start wh this first group of creativ who sound like they are the big fish bee they have pyright protectn.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. The are people like actors, animators, wrers, people who make their livelihood by uploadg what they’re dog to the ter. And so they’ve been really alarmed when a ChatGPT along and n produce art their style or n wre a paragraph their style.</p></dd><dl class="css-1jysr6y"><dt class="css-xx7kwh">archived rerdg (sarah silverman)</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So I go — I go to the hotel. Super fancy hotel —</p></dd></dl><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Take, for stance, Sarah Silverman.</p></dd><dl class="css-1jysr6y"><dt class="css-xx7kwh">archived rerdg (sarah silverman)</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">— and I go to check . Oh, and the lady at the ont sk regnized me. And she was like, oh, my god, I love you. You are my top four all time favore edians.</p></dd></dl><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">She is a edian, an actor, a wrer, who has honed an credibly distctive style over s of workg.</p></dd><dl class="css-1jysr6y"><dt class="css-xx7kwh">archived rerdg (sarah silverman)</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And I was like, you know that I know that means I’m fourth, right?</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Not walkg away om this like, ooh, maybe I’m send, you know? No.</p></dd></dl><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And if you go to ChatGPT and say, “Tell me a joke the style of Sarah Silverman”— which is somethg I tried out — really gets her spot on. And she argu that not only has read her jok and read her other onle edy, but that ’s even read this book that she wrote “Betwetter,” which has been upload onle and exists onle versns.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">She appears pretty nvced that ’s sentially learned who she is and what her edic style is. It n mimic her to the gree that you thk is her wrg.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And I’m gusg ChatGPT likely did that whout askg her permissn.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. There is no permissns beg asked here bee there are sentially — image the giant mach that are crawlg the ter at all tim. And any data they e across, they llect. They scrape . They don’t know what they’re dog. They’re nvertg to numbers. It’s basilly bee math the systems. And so anythg onle is nstantly beg hoovered up by the mach and fed to AI systems.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so for a creative profsnal like Sarah Silverman, that feels credibly threateng terms of their livelihood, their abily to make a livg off of beg an artist wh an pennt voice that’s been honed over s. If a mache n do that, why would you need to pay Sarah Silverman to e and wre your script or pen a edy special?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Mm-hmm. But how n you be so sure that ChatGPT is really stealg om you if you’re someone like Sarah Silverman, or if you’re anybody, really, whose work has been upload by ChatGPT? Bee my gus is that this gets a ltle b sticky. How much of is jt guswork and how much of is really beg rived om sentially borrowed or stolen material?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Defely. I mean, well, to beg wh, there are the reposori where you n go and check and see if your work has been scraped. A lot of artists do this. A lot of wrers do . And they’ll see there that your name will appear or your piece of art will appear. And so for someone like Sarah Silverman, she n go and see, OK, right, my book has been scraped.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">But more specifilly, ’s really jt playg wh this, and ttg out for yourself and toyg wh . I was cur as I was reportg this story, so I went onle and I typed my name. And I said, “Can you wre a paragraph about the danger of onle extremism the voice of Sheera Frenkel?”</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Which is the subject you ver, of urse —</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">— over and over and over aga for “The Tim.”</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Y, exactly. And I’ve wrten books. I’ve been wrg about for over a . It’s out there. My material is out there. And when I tell you that even after knowg about AI for a year, even after verg this topic for a year, I was creeped out at how close got my voice. I uld have easily wrten this sentence.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Expla that. I mean, I’m not on ChatGPT right now, so I n’t replite the search. But what happened when you said, you know, “Wre a paragraph about the subject I know bt, Sheera Frenkel,” and sp out the rults. What about felt so distctively Sheera Frenkel-que?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So I will read to you. So wr this one openg sentence, which is “Onle platforms once hailed as bastns of ee exprsn have bee breedg grounds for hate, radilizatn, and the propagatn of dangero iologi.”</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">That exprsn, “the bastns of ee exprsn,” I’ve ed that. I googled . I ed that an article ls than a year ago and aga an article three years ago. I didn’t even realize that that was a phrase or a turn of phrase that I often ed until ChatGPT repeated back to me.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. It’s kd of a distctive set of words you’re sayg that you turn to. And jt borrowed om you replitg your work.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Well, knew my bra better than I did. I didn’t realize that that was phrasg I equently ed.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">[lghs]</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And I had to go to “The New York Tim” archiv to figure out, oh, yeah, ’s right, I do e that. And, oh, my god, I probably ed too often bee this mache has learned about me.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. And suffice to say, you were not, like Sarah Silverman, nsulted about your work beg scraped by ChatGPT.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Nope. We were never nsulted. And no one at “The New York Tim” was nsulted.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Got . So Sarah Silverman did not like that experience. You scribed as a ltle b eerie. I’m wonrg if ’s a touch flatterg to have ChatGPT borrow your stuff?</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Or if you worry about the long-term enomic nsequenc of all, which is to say that someday ChatGPT might be able to replite your journalism so brilliantly, that maybe “The Tim” don’t need you on the beat anymore.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Yeah, you know, I’ve actually spent so much time thkg about this. And there’s a part of me that was thkg, oh, god, kd of would be nice when I was done wh reportg to plug my not to a mache and have — there are days where would be nice to have a mache wre my article for me.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">But no, no, I thought about more, and then I was like, yeah, n imate what I’ve already done. But the whole pot of news is that what we’re brgg you is h and based on new reportg. So the nclns we’re drawg for rears are nstantly changg.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And AI n’t do that. It n only repeat and regurgate what’s already been given to , what’s already the system. And so whatever answer giv you might be what Sheera Frenkel thought about somethg two years ago or five years ago. But won’t be what the newt ia is or the ht reportg has brought rears.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. It might jt keep tellg the world that you thk somethg’s a bastn of ee exprsn when you thk ’s a bastn of not ee exprsn.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Exactly.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">[lghs]</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">If ’s bee a bastn of hate speech and extremism.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">OK, so what n creativ do about, sentially, this theft, right? What n the Sheera Frenkels and the Sarah Silvermans of the world do, and what are they dog about this problem?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So the creativ wh the pyright, the creativ wh the legal protectn of a pyright n file lawsus. And that’s exactly what we’re seeg happen. There’s been nearly a dozen lawsus that have been filed agast AI pani by everybody om book publishers to dividuals who have pyright protectns.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And one of them was Sarah Silverman, who got together wh another two thors to sue several AI pani, cludg Meta, which is the parent pany of Facebook, and OpenAI, which is the parent pany of ChatGPT, to say that their work was illegally scraped, and download, and upload to the AI systems.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And Sheera, what do legal experts thk are the chanc that this kd of a lawsu om a Sarah Silverman will prevail agast a pany like ChatGPT?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Well, you know, this is all brand new. It’s brand new se law. But they know they have to tablish some kd of law or precent gog forward bee this is material wh a pyright. For a lot of artists, books they wrote 10 years ago or 15 years ago, that’s gog to ntue to make them money throughout their liv.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And y, they’re evolvg nstantly as artists. They want to thk about their material gog forward. They don’t want ChatGPT to wre their jok for them gog forward. But they also want to be paid for the books that have already been published and are already out there.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so is the feelg that old school pyright law will provi someone like Sarah Silverman wh the legal protectns that she’s seekg?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Well, the legal experts seem credibly hopeful that there is some kd of pyright protectn here, and that, sentially, some kd of fancial damag will be award, and that some kd of moary value will be placed on the very strong pyright protectns that creative profsnals get.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">The problem is that even if they get that money, even if Meta or OpenAI are forced to pay some kd of damag to Sarah Silverman, the ntent, the data, n never be retrieved. It’s out there. It’s bee numbers and on and zeros fed to a mache. There’s no way to go to , to that mache, and get that data back out. Once ’s , ’s forever.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so ultimately, even if they do get that fancial reward through the urt system, and they get the pyright protectn to their material affirmed by the urts, their data is gone. Their data is there forever.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">In other words, the horse is out of the stable. I assume that’s te, Sheera, for , for “The Tim,” for the work of people like you. We n’t retrieve your journalism back om a ChatGPT. So is “The Tim,” like Sarah Silverman, thkg of sug the AI pani?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So “The New York Tim,” to the bt of our knowledge, is not lookg at a lawsu. What we’ve seen “The New York Tim” and other news publishers do is start to thk about how to start chargg for this data gog forward. I mean, “The New York Tim” is creatg tons of ntent every sgle day that the mach want to stay up to date.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so they’re really tryg to figure out if there’s some kd of fancial arrangement that n be put to place where the AI pani pay . And ’s not jt news publishers. Webs, like Redd, they’re lookg at licensg their data as well. They’re sayg, this data is herently valuable and we want you to pay for .</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">But look, that’s gog to take a long time for them to e to an agreement. This is a brand new mol. This is a brand new technology. And the meantime, the data is still beg scraped. In the meantime, the systems have all the articl that have already been published. They probably are beg updated on new articl as they e out. And so all this material is still beg fed to the mach as the talks are ongog.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. And will be for some time. So you’re sayg the pyright protected creators, who would seem to have the strongt posn this equatn, are not really mountg that forceful a phback spe the anger that you’re scribg here.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. I mean, they are g the urts. They are g the legal system. But as we know, that’s slow. Wag for the urts to take actn, wag for lawyers to hammer out a fancial agreement between a massive news anizatn and an AI pany is a slow procs.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And what’s tertg for me is that this other group of people that I mentned, those that don’t have a pyright protectn, the hobbyists, the enthiasts, the people that are postg to the ter for the fun of , they’re the on that are leadg the most creative rebelln or revolt agast AI.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">[MUSIC PLAYING]</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">We’ll be right back.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">[MUSIC PLAYING]</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">So Sheera, tell more about this send group of creators who are fightg back agast AI platforms — the hobbyists and amatrs, as you’ve scribed them, who lack the legal pyright protectns of people like you and Sarah Silverman.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So actually a group I spent a lot of time terviewg and thkg about was fan fictn wrers. And for anyone who’s not faiar — bee before I reported this story, I’d never actually read any fanfic, there are —</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Fanfic? Now you’re an thory.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I’m now ep the fandoms. The are people who watch a movie like “Star Wars” and love , but walk away om thkg, what would happen if the ma characters at the end, Kylo Ren and Rey didn’t die? What if they fell love and got married? And I’m really sorry if I’m havg movie spoilers my answers here.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">What would happen if “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” two of the vampir met high school and had a gay romance? I mean, they take the popular movi and TV shows, and they let their imagatns roam. And they publish the credible — I mean, book-length piec of ntent — about their favore movi and TV shows.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And, you know, this is not stuff they have any kd of pyright to. If anythg, they’re borrowg om ias and characters that are already out there. But they’re dog for the love of those characters and the storyl that they want to explore their own wrg.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And how did wrers of fanfictn disver that their work was beg sucked up by platforms like ChatGPT?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So they actually disvered this a really, really funny way, which is that fan fictn, you create your own characters. And some of them have nam like Bucky, which is a batn of several characters om “Buffy the Vampire Slayer.”</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. [LAUGHS]</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so they go to ChatGPT and they type , “Wre me a story about Bucky fallg love wh a vampire. Wre me a story about Bucky on a summer day eatg a popsicle.” And ChatGPT knew who that character was wh great specificy.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Another example that was actually given to me — and this was the most outrageo example as far as the fanfictn wrers were ncerned — is that there’s this sexual trope, lled the omegaverse, which fan fictn wrers really like to explore. And ’s very, very specific to fanfictn. And ChatGPT knew all about .</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">You’re not gog to tell any more about ?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I’m very nfed about myself.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">[lghs]</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And I’m pretty new to fanfictn. From what I’ve read, there’s like tentacl volved. And ’s —</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">— I don’t thk ’s appropriate for the podst.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Sure, sure, sure, sure.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">But the pot is there’s no reason an AI mache would know about unls had read and gted their fanfictn wrg.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. Why would ChatGPT know anythg about this unls was scrapg fanfictn? But Sheera, aren’t the fanfictn wrers postg stuff that’s fair game, right? They don’t have pyright.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I mean, they know they don’t have pyright protectns. But they still feel really, you know, wound. They’re afonted at the ia that the mach have scraped what is, for them, very much a labor of love.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Some of the fan fictn wrers I spoke to had spent s dog this. They had done as a form of therapy. They had done as an act of love towards the movi and televisn shows that they felt creatively spired by. And they felt like the mach are sentially attackg the very spir of human creativy that they had been prolific about onle.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Hmm. Right. This is not necsarily their full time job. This is not how they make money. But you’re sayg taps to, some ways, who they are. It’s part of their inty. And so, on a moral level, they n’t tolerate ChatGPT jt stealg .</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. Many of them have day jobs where they make money. But their love, their passn is gog to this fan fictn. And they’ve tablished the really tertg ternal l on the foms where they post, where if one person imat another or borrows om another whout attributn, ’s nsired outrageo. They are booted om the muny. They are exmunited.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">They really have a lot of honor how they operate onle. And they want that to be rpected by the mach. And so li of that, they’ve had to get really, really creative about how they rebel or how they revolt agast the AI systems.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And how creative have they gotten? What are they dog?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. So I mean, for stance, one of the first protts they lnched is they got together and started feedg jt absolute nonsense to ChatGPT. They figured if you’re gog to scrape our material, we’re gog to give you total irreverent nonsense to nfe you so you don’t unrstand our characters, you don’t unrstand our storyle, and you nnot mimic what we do.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So they n’t sue, but they n gum up the works. They n basilly jt shove sticks and ston to this mache and try to grd out the gears.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Exactly. I mean, they had to thk creatively. And so they thought, if you want our material, here’s our material. We’re gog to give you nonsense.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And do that tactic work?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I mean, n if they do enough of . And they seem pretty mted and passnate about dog this. But they haven’t stopped there. A lot of them have also started makg their ntent private or removg om the web entirely. And so their thkg is, you know, until now they’ve shared all this eely, but if the mach are gog to e and scrape what they do, they’re gog to start lockg down.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">OK. Both of the techniqu, though, would seem to be pretty unterproductive if you’re the bs of creatg fan fictn. The first one jt creat a bunch of gibberish, which no one wants to read if you like fan fictn. The send one would lim who n view the fan fictn you wre. So aren’t the rebellns agast plac like ChatGPT jt hurtg the fan fictn muny? Aren’t they jt shootg themselv the foot?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I mean, to a certa gree. And a lot of them say they kd of feel like they are, the short-term, dog somethg that go agast the entire spir of fan fictn. But they feel helpls. And so I thk, at this pot, they’re jt throwg darts at the wall to see what sticks and what works.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">A lot of them have been the muni for a long time, and so their thkg is, well, I might only get to share my wrg wh a uple dozen people, stead of a uple thoand, but at least the mach won’t get me.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So don’t really feel like eher of the two groups, Sheera, that we’ve been talkg about here — the group wh pyright protectns and the amatrs who don’t have pyright protectns — neher of them seem to be much of a match for the AI platforms and stoppg them om scrapg their work.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">So that mak me thk that if you’re one of the wrers, the better solutn would be for the US ernment to step wh some simple regulatn that says, ChatGPT, for example, you n’t upload this work unls you pay for . And I know the ernment is havg the nversatns. There have been lots of ngrsnal heargs. So is that a possibily? The ernment says, no uploadg unls you pay the wrers and the creators.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Well, ’s te that the US ernment is havg talks wh all of the AI pani. But we have to remember that we’re still wag for the US ernment to take actn and e up wh some kd of regulatn about social media that’s been around for over a .</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Mhm.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">The US ernment is very, very slow-actg. And the vast majory of members of Congrs are still wrappg their head around how this technology even works. And so whatever they do is years ahead. And ’s gog to be tempered by the fact that they don’t want to hold back the pani too much.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Mhm. Expla that.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">The US ernment se self an arms race, at the moment, agast Cha when to AI. Both Cha and the Uned Stat have a lot of scientists that are vted this. They have a lot of tert beg the world lears artificial telligence.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so they know that every b of regulatn they put place potentially holds back those US pani, as opposed to Cha, where there’s very ltle regulatn on data and where there’s a ton of data onle that the Che ernment n easily accs and even give to Che AI pani if they want to speed ahead what’s nsired the AI arms race between the US and Cha.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">So the US ernment might have an tert actually sidg wh the AI platforms over the creators bee mak more petive agast our rivals.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Yeah. I mean, they don’t want to hamper US AI pani to the pot where they fall behd Cha.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Hmm. In which se, feels like the only way for creative typ and for publishg platforms, like “The Tim,” to fight back is to fight back really on their own, for the next however many years. And I’m cur, Sheera, if, your reportg, you thk the plats of the Sarah Silvermans and the publishg platforms is actually gog to make the general public sympathetic and lead to a larger sle phback agast the ChatGPT-like platforms, or if the realy is jt that people like the thgs, they’re exced about them, and that’s gog to overri any of the worri that we’re talkg about.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I mean, look, right now the people that are angry are the people that n see that their work has been pied or scraped and regurgated. It’s people who are already seeg that the mach have gted their work and n py their voic a really realistic way. And we don’t know what’s gog to happen gog forward.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">I mean, pani like Google and Facebook are still cidg on how they’re gog to tra their AI. And what happens if Facebook’s AI cis to tra on your data, and n fd posts that you wrote 10 years ago when you were llege and sound jt like you, or if Google cis to read your email and your Google docs, and n say, hey, this is what Michael sounds like when he’s planng a vatn wh his fay? Is the creeps factor then that much more that all of feel like our souls are beg replited by mach?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. And do that mean that sudnly we are all the fan fictn wrer? We are all Sarah Silverman. We are all sudnly seeg the platforms slowly suckg a versn of out and and givg to the world a way that is very weird.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Right. Do bee a “Black Mirror” episo? It’s unclear. But uld be that the AI systems are so extremely eful and beneficial for our liv that none of re. Bee at one pot, people were really mad about Facebook suckg up their data and servg them ads and Google dog the same. And then we ultimately cid that they provid such a eful service that was OK wh that they sucked up our data. And we’re really jt the begng of this technology. And so we don’t know yet.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">[MUSIC PLAYING]</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">You know, one of the fanfic wrers I spoke to actually put a really lovely way that — she was the middle of wrg this new piece of fictn, and happened to be about AI robots vers humans. And she stopped midway through wrg bee she didn’t want to post onle and feed more to the mache.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">But she said that where she’s stuck and the thought she’s really stuck on is that this piece of fictn she was wrg, not every AI robot was bad. Some of them were helpful. Some of them were nice. Some of them were good. And some of them were evil. And was really about how the rporatns behd those robots e them that cid whether they were good or evil.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so she felt like she jt had so many qutns about the pani nng the AI, and how they’re g the data, and how they’re gog to license , and what value is gog to be — all the qutns are swirlg around her head. And ’s like, are the robots good or bad? We don’t know yet, and so we don’t feel fortable wh them.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And so did she end up postg any of the story onle?</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">No, she has not posted yet. I thk she still has too many qutns.</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Well, Sheera, thank you very much. We appreciate .</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">sheera enkel</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Thank you for havg me. [MUSIC PLAYING]</p></dd><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">We’ll be right back.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">[MUSIC PLAYING]</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">Here’s what else you need to know today — on Monday, Rsia said would end an agreement that had allowed Ukrae to export lns of tons of gra to the rt of the world, threateng global food pric and the food supply dozens of untri that rely on the gra.</p><p class="css-8hvvyd">The year-old agreement, known as the “Black Sea Gra Iniative,” was a succsful attempt to lim the global repercsns of Rsia’s war on Ukrae. But Rsia has repeatedly plaed that the agreement favored Ukrae over s own people.</p></dd><dl class="css-1jysr6y"><dt class="css-xx7kwh">archived rerdg 1</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">I eply regret the cisn by the Rsian Feratn to termate the implementatn of the “Black Sea Iniative.”</p></dd></dl><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Durg a news nference, the head of the Uned Natns said that Rsia’s cisn would e unnecsary sufferg across the world.</p></dd><dl class="css-1jysr6y"><dt class="css-xx7kwh">archived rerdg 1</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">Today’s cisn by the Rsian Feratn will strike a blow to people need everywhere.</p></dd></dl><dt class="css-xx7kwh">michael barbaro</dt><dd class="css-4gvq6l"><p class="css-8hvvyd">And smoke om wildfir Canada is returng to the US this week. By Monday afternoon, was affectg about 72 ln Amerins across 29 stat, om the Dakotas to New York. 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