David Hy Pierce Talks Gay Jok on Frasier

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• WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
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WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. 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WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. 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I'd heard plenty of tim that Mahoney was gay but not officially out: Sometim the story was he had a partner. "But no such acunt om Dan Butler or David Hy Pierce, two gay men who knew Mahoney om workg together on Frasier. A story was passed along to me that he once stopped talkg to a iend the 1980s for divulgg he was gay.

I have keen gaydar and an good ear for celebry gossip. Did I thk John Mahoney was gay? )But the wake of his ath, discsn of Mahoney's actg prows or humany were quickly overshadowed by chatter about his remd of the speech his character, Jack, giv The Broken Hearts Club:Sometim I wonr what you boys would do if you weren't gay.

IS JAM HY GAY?

On my feed, iends were sistg they'd read articl where he spoke openly about his sexualy, or swore they saw him at gay bars. )That a creative artist, a kd-hearted man by all acunts, had died of throat ncer a hospice, was was a time you uld unt the number of gay actors on one hand. Would anyone's life have been saved knowg that a 77-year-old Anglo-Amerin was (unfortably) gay?

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"We did not know at that time that eher one of was gay, and we jt hung out as bt iends, " David Hy Pierce tells PEOPLE about first meetg his now-hband, Brian Hargrove, 1982.

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We did not know at that time that eher one of was gay, and we jt hung out as bt iends. Sam Hys Views on Homosexualy.

Sam Hy Tellg Hipsters The Ugly Origs Of Homosexualy. I have gay ncer, I'm gonna die, and you will too. sam-hy-tellg-hipsters-the-ugly-origs-of-homosexualy.

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As wh many other celebri, has always been speculated the qutn - Jam Hy is gay? Neverthels, speculatns over whether Jam Hy is gay or not are still prent certa rners of the tabloids and on var webs, once aga whout any solid foundatn.

Although Jam Hy has never admted to beg gay, the media always nsirs the likelihood of one day reportg on the other. Do you know any rmatn regardg the qutn - Is Jam Hy gay?

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HBO Max is workg on a new seri starrg DC's Jackson "Jake" Hy, an openly gay ic book character who is perhaps bt known as the send Aqualad -- and who recently beme the send Aquaman. "The seri will explore the life of Jackson 'Jake' Hy, a gay teenager livg New Mexi, " Variety explas.

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In DC's ic book universe, Jackson has been picted as openly gay post-Rebirth, whereas his Young Jtice unterpart has been portrayed as bisexual. Wh his directorial but on Broadway, It Shoulda Been You, he sat down wh HuffPost Live to discs what he's been workg on, and how some of the episos of Frasier people nsir the bt are, fact, centered around gay jok. As he explaed:"The reason they had those gay jok Frasier, pecially about Nil [Crane] and Frasier [Crane] was was examg stereotyp and those two were very neat and persnickety and was acknowledgg the fact that a lot of their behavr [like] we tastg and gog to the opera and all, would be seen as gay by a lot of people.

It was never jok at the expense of gay people. We had gay people on staff. David Lee, one of the creators on the show is gay and so, to me, was always acknowledgg the preposterons of stereotyp.

"Pierce fully adms that the way they perceived gay culture, how straight men reacted to , and the humor around was a pletely a product and a reflectn of the time, and he don't thk those same jok would play a clip of the terview below, and see Pierce's full terview wh HuffPost Livehere. 24 plac sorted by traveler favorBars & Clubs • Gay BarsTrafalgar Square / EmbankmentGay Bars • Dance Clubs & DissTrafalgar Square / EmbankmentBars & Clubs • Gay BarsLeicter Square / Shaftbury AvenueWhat travelers are saygBier than expected but service was fast and iendly. Loted the heart of London, Comptons is a mt-vis gay pub that guarante an credible experience.

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Brilliant staff (pecially Jack, the fabulo bar manager and cktail maker), fabulo cktails and a relaxed atmosphere for all whether gay, straight or somethg else. A beguilg, alternative London gay bar.

Dan Butler played Frasier and Roz's chvistic and very heterosexual -worker Bob "Bulldog" Brise on the show, so he shocked fans when he me out publicly as a gay man early on the show's n. It was jt procsg what gay means, if anythg, " Butler explaed.

Jackson Hy is a gay character om DC Comics. GAY.

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Over the past 50 years, as nflicts over homosexualy have wracked relig nomatns across the Uned Stat, LGBTQ people have both fought for affirmg cln wh their fah muni and formed distct groups of their own. Others may thk of the Council on Relign and the Homosexual, found 1964 San Francis, or nomatnal groups like Digny, found as a rap group for gay Catholics San Diego 1969. While the exampl form an important part of this history, they rerce the perceptn that LGBTQ relig activism emerged om liberal urban enclav California and arose around the time that gay liberatn, helped along by anti-war and untercultural movements, was takg off the Uned Stat.