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WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . 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ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. 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* john mahoney gay *

I'd heard plenty of tim that Mahoney was gay but not officially out: Sometim the story was he had a partner. "But no such acunt om Dan Butler or David Hy Pierce, two gay men who knew Mahoney om workg together on Frasier.

WAS JOHN MAHONEY GAY? WHAT WAS THE CSE OF HIS DEATH?

A story was passed along to me that he once stopped talkg to a iend the 1980s for divulgg he was gay. I have keen gaydar and an good ear for celebry gossip. Did I thk John Mahoney was gay?

JOHN MAHONEY – B, WAS HE GAY, WHAT ED HIS ATH?

)But the wake of his ath, discsn of Mahoney's actg prows or humany were quickly overshadowed by chatter about his remd of the speech his character, Jack, giv The Broken Hearts Club:Sometim I wonr what you boys would do if you weren't gay. On my feed, iends were sistg they'd read articl where he spoke openly about his sexualy, or swore they saw him at gay bars.

JOHN MAHONEY – B, WAS HE GAY, WHAT ED HIS ATH?

)That a creative artist, a kd-hearted man by all acunts, had died of throat ncer a hospice, was was a time you uld unt the number of gay actors on one hand. Would anyone's life have been saved knowg that a 77-year-old Anglo-Amerin was (unfortably) gay? It was only after Whney Hoton tragilly passed on that her fay and iends would speak on her relatnship wh Robyn Crawford; a siar scenar befell Luther Vandross, whose homosexualy is a equent topic of nversatn.

IS JOHN MAHONEY GAY? HERE IS EVERYTHG THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW

The fears and ternalized homophobia are a shared sentiment of sorts, even for those of who who have been able to e out and live our fully-realized queer liv. Perhaps was someone who worked wh him there who passed along that he was gay. Articl toutg how gay the st of Frasier was and had always been clud Mahoney them.

But when news of Mahoney’s ath me over the weekend, was shockg to see that his obuari were void of any mentn of his beg openly gay. That’s when I disvered, along wh many others, he may have lived as a gay man his private life, but he had never publicly e out.

John Mahoney was a pneer—one of the first openly gay prime time actors on TV at a time when really unted. It’s wily known that John Mahoney was a gay man, but you won’t see that referenced his obs. Notably, he played a gay man (and former drag queen) named Bent on a 2006 episo of E.

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siz="100vw" fetchprry="high" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>I’ve been a fan of </span><em>Frasier </em><span>sce was on the air, but ’s only recently that I’ve felt the urge to watch aga. I’m not sure exactly what drew me to this seri particular, but I suppose stems om two thgs: one, the fact that a good iend of me has mentned que a lot of recently and two, my sire to watch an old-fashned s, one that don’t try to do somethg new or imagative wh the genre but stead jt dish up what you want. Very quickly durg this most recent rewatch, I started to notice somethg very tertg, ed. Namely, really leapt out at me how </span><em>queer </em><span>this seri was, even if on the surface appears to be a heterosexual s like so many others. </span></p><p><span>Obvly, some of this has to do wh the st. Though wouldn’t be publicly known for que some time, David Hy Pierce is gay (he publicly me out the early 2000s), and at least two other members of the st are as well: Dan Butler (who played Bulldog, the rint sports show at KACL) and Edward Hibbert (who played Gil, the fsy and mpy rtrant cric at the statn). Of urse, all three are supposedly “straight” wh the universe of the show, wh even the overwrought Gil supposedly married to a woman (though whether this is actually te or not is a nng gag). There’s even some evince to suggt that John Mahoney was also gay real life, and even if he wasn’t he still had an important role the gay film </span><em>The Broken Hearts Club </em><span>(which is an embarrassment of rich when to straight 1990s and early 2000s actors playg queer). </span></p><p><span>Bulldog is an pecially tertg se, as his character is one of the most abrasively straight characters to appear the seri. He appears very early on the first season, makg himself as obnoxly loud as possible. Obvly, his character is meant to be a thorn Frasier’s si, another workg-class man whose bluntns is at odds wh his own supposedly elevated sensibili. At the same time, I thk ’s easy to read him as nothg ls than a send-up of the very personaly type that he supposedly embodi. Of urse, most straight dienc probably would have read him as, well, </span><em>straight, </em><span>but I’ve no doubt that there were many queer people who would have been on the joke. </span></p><p><span>However, go beyond who was chosen to play the characters. Ined, queerns seems to simply </span><em>saturate </em><span>the entire seri’ ethos. To beg wh, there’s the fact that both Frasier and Nil have a refed sensibily that is sharply at odds wh the people around them. They enjoy fe w and gog out to dner at fancy rtrants, and they relish every chance to show off their learng and their edn, whether that’s on Frasier’s rad show or Nil’ clil profsn. And, of urse, they are both love wh the art scene, a fact that be clear very early on when Frasier buys what he believ to be a work om a renowned lol artist, only to fd out that ’s a fery. </span></p><p><span>What’s more, there’s an archns to the humor that, to me at least, feels as if uld only fully be appreciated by queer dienc, those who were traed the art of seeg what lurked beneath the surface. I don’t thk ’s gog too far to say that, an earlier perd of televisn history, eher Nil or Frasier–or, fact, both of them–would have been read as queer precisely bee of their affectatns. Nil particular has a queer sort of fss that is evotive of var other “sissy” characters that have long been a staple of both film and televisn, whether was the many sissy characters played by Edward Everett Horton or the mp gay uple that ma such a memorable appearance </span><em>Barney Miller </em><span>(to say nothg of the overwrought terer that ma an appearance </span><em>The Goln Girls</em><span>). Though the brothers’ sparrg is very much le wh what one would expect of a pair of siblgs, I n’t help but feel that they jt as often appear to be a gay uple that has been together so long that they are as annoyed wh one another as they are love.</span></p><p>Of urse, Frasier and Nil don’t get to have everythg their own way. Their father Marty particular seems to take a great al of pleasure brgg them down to earth, his rough-around-the-edg, blue-llar mentaly stark ntrast to their elevated tast (which, is ma clear, they hered om their mother). He seems to take an pecial joy remdg them of the fact that they are far om the blue-bloods that they aspire to be, that they are fact of humble stock. While more often than not the seri aligns wh the senr Crane–after all, there’s no qutn that both Frasier and Nil are pompo and so obssed wh their own cultural superry that they n be more than a ltle irratg–there is, I thk, another way of readg the nontatns, i.e. as two queer kids nontg the fact that their father don’t unrstand them. Perhaps I’m readg to this here a b, given that my relatnship wh my own blue-llar parents is, at tim, straed by the same different-world culture clash but, given how queer-d the Crane brothers are, I thk the argument holds water. </p><p><span>Nor is s queerns limed to s male characters. It’s easy to see, for example, why Peri Gilp’s Roz would be the stuff of which gay ins are ma. Wh her hky voice, her abily to puncture Frasier’s self-righteo and self-important arrogance, and of urse her relentls pursu of men, she is everythg that gay men uld possibly want. At the risk of parg everythg to </span><em>The Goln Girls</em><span>—an admted hab of me—’s easy to draw a lk between Blanche’s voracly unapologetic sexual energi and those of Roz.</span></p><p><span>Th, even though both Frasier and Nil are very straight–one of the key narrative through-l is the latter’s fatuatn wh and eventual marriage to Daphne–the tth is that </span><em>Frasier </em><span>is the sort of seri that offers self up to all sorts of queer readgs. In that rpect, is very much like </span><em>The Nanny, </em><span>another 1990s s that was, on the surface, que heterosexual but offered many sorts of pleasur for queer dienc who knew what to look for. Even now, </span><em>Frasier </em><span>n’t hi s exquise queerns. </span></p></div></div><div class="visibily-check"></div><div class="post-footer"><div class="pencraft ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flexGrow--mx4xz ontend-pencraft-Box-module__ret--VfQY8 ontend-pencraft-Box-module__display-flex--ZqeZt ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-jtify-space-between--NvIcg ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-align-center--rSd6h ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-gap-16--TpblU ontend-pencraft-Box-module__paddg-y-16--ohCEm ontend-pencraft-Box-module__borr-top-tail-themed--e17yZ ontend-pencraft-Box-module__borr-bottom-tail-themed--eVwFY post-ufi"><div class="pencraft ontend-pencraft-Box-module__ret--VfQY8 ontend-pencraft-Box-module__display-flex--ZqeZt ontend-pencraft-Box-module__flex-gap-8--HFpIK"><div class="like-button-ntaer post-ufi-button style-button"><a role="button" class="post-ufi-button style-button no-label wh-borr"><svg role="img" style="height: 20px; width: 20px;" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="#000000" stroke-width="2" stroke="#000" xmlns=" class="in"><g><tle>.

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