Contents:
- MOLLY RGWALD Q&A ON THE REAL-LIFE DUCKIE & JON CRYER’S ‘GAY VIBE’
- MOLLY RGWALD SAYS DUCKIE FROM ‘PRETTY PK’ IS GAY, AND SHOULD’VE END UP WH A ‘CUTE GUY’
- 'PRETTY PK' DIRECTOR HOWARD DTCH ON FILM'S FAMO LOST ENDG AND MOLLY RGWALD'S THEORY THAT DUCKIE WAS SECRETLY GAY
- WHY MOLLY RGWALD SPOKE OUT ABOUT JOHN HUGH AND #METOO: ‘THGS HAVE TO CHANGE’DON’T YOU FORGET ABOUT HERTHE ACTRS TALKS ABOUT HER NEW FILM AT THE TRIBE FILM FTIVAL AND WHY ’S HARD, BUT IMPORTANT, TO RENSIR JOHN HUGH’S LEGACY AT THIS CULTURAL MOMENT.KEV FALLONSENR EDOR, OBSSEDUPDATED APR. 28, 2018 1:34AM EDT / PUBLISHED APR. 27, 2018 9:34PM EDT ERIK TANNER/GETTYTHROUGHOUT HER ENTIRE REER, MOLLY RGWALD HAS BEEN PG CLICHéS.IT’S RIGHT THERE THE SCRIPT FOR THE BREAKFAST CLUB: “YOU SEE AS A BRA, AN ATHLETE, A BASKET SE, A PRCS, AND A CRIMAL,” WHEN, OF URSE, THE TEENAGERS JOHN HUGH CRAFTED WERE ANYTHG BUT THOSE ARCHETYP. THERE’S HER LIGHTNG-BOLT, TIME VER-MTED TAKEOVER OF THE ZEGEIST, REFG THE GéNUE MOVIE STAR FOR A NEW GENERATN WH WHAT CRIC PLE KAEL LLED A “CHARISMATIC NORMALY,” ENPSULATG THE NEW ADOLCENT SPIR.IT APPLI TO THE WAY WHICH SHE SETTLED, ONCE THE FLASHBULBS STOPPED GOG OFF, TO A JOURNEYWOMAN’S ACTG REER ONSTAGE AND ONSCREEN—A HBAND AND THREE CHILDREN OFF-SCREEN—WHEN UTNARY TAL ABOUND VOLVG OTHER YOUNG STARS OF HER STATURE.AND ’S THE WAY SHE TALKS ANKLY ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE THE DTRY AND HER EVOLVED FEELGS ABOUT HER WORK AND THE MSAGE THOSE FILMS SENT, MOST RECENTLY AN SAY FOR THE NEW YORKER RENSIRG HER PROJECTS WH JOHN HUGH THE WAKE OF THE #METOO CULTURAL MOMENT. RGWALD, WHO RECENT YEARS HAS FOUND HERSELF NNECTG WH A NEW GENERATN PLAYG MOTHER TO THE LEADS ON TEEN DRAMAS RIVERDALE AND THE SECRET LIFE OF AN AMERIN TEENAGER, MEETS ME A DOWNTOWN NEW YORK HOTEL DURG THE TRIBE FILM FTIVAL, WHERE HER NEW FILM, ALL THE SMALL MOMENTS, HAD S PREMIERE.AMIDST A DISCSN ABOUT HER CISN TO WRE ABOUT HUGH, WE’RE ONCE AGA MARVELG AT THAT AFOREMENTNED ABILY TO PE CLICHéS, WHICH SHE DO ALL THE SMALL MOMENTS, PLAYG MOTHER TO A TEEN BOY WEATHERG A TUMULTUO G-OF-AGE NEW YORK CY. “I’VE PLAYED MOMS BEFORE,” SHE SAYS. “I’M A MOTHER. I FEEL VERY OFTEN THE MOTHERS ARE VERY ARCHETYPAL. THEY’RE LOVG AND NURTURG AND THEY’LL SAY, ‘YOU’LL FIGURE OUT, HONEY,’ AND PAT THE KID ON THE HEAD AND LEAVE. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNY TO PLAY SOMEBODY WHO WAS MORE PLEX.” “THE WORLD FEELS LIKE ’S SHIFTG A LTLE B…”— MOLLY RGWALD IN THE FILM, HER CHARACTER IS THE PAFUL POSN OF REALIZG HER MARRIAGE MIGHT BE OVER YET STILL ATTEMPTG TO PROVI A SEMBLANCE OF ROUTE FOR HER TWO SONS DURG THE DISSOLUTN. AT ONE POT, HER CHARACTER IS BYG HERSELF KNTG THE KCHEN, AN ATTEMPT TO DISTRACT OM HER ANGER AT HER HBAND. HER SON ASKS IF HE N HELP HER WH ANYTHG, AND SHE EPTS, “Y, AR, YOU N KN ME A FUCKG SWEATER.”RGWALD DO A SP-TAKE WHEN I REUNT THE LE TO HER. “TO ME, THAT’S ABSOLUTELY REAL,” SHE SAYS. “I DON’T THK I’VE EVER ACTUALLY SAID THAT BUT I MIGHT HAVE SAID SOMETHG PARABLE TO ONE OF MY KIDS. IT’S NEVER YOUR BT MOMENT, BUT WE HAVE REALLY GREAT MOMENTS, TOO.”WHAT’S STRIKG ABOUT SPEAKG WH RGWALD IS THAT, THOUGH WE’RE MEETG THE MIDDLE OF A FTIVAL PRS DAY—A GNTLET OF PHOTO LLS AND VIO HS AND SPEED-DATE TERVIEWS AND SOCIAL MEDIA LLOUTS—SHE CIDLY CENTERS HERSELF OUR NVERSATN, RISTG PLATUS AND RETREADS THAT ARE SYSTEMIC OF JUNKET PRS DAYS AND EAGER TO ENGAGE MORE ANALYTILLY WH HER WORK.BEE WE’RE MEETG SO SOON AFTER THE PUBLISHG OF HER NEW YORKER SAY, MUCH OF OUR HALF-HOUR TOGETHER IS SPENT DISCSG POTS SHE BRGS UP HER PIECE—NOT TO MENTN THE TREPIDATN THAT GAVE WAY TO THARSIS WHEN SHE CID TO WRE THE FIRST PLACE.IT’S RGWALD’S SEND SAY FOR THE NEW YORKER. THE FIRST PUBLISHED SOON AFTER THE HARVEY WESTE ALLEGATNS ME OUT, REUNTG HER EXPERIENCE WH SEXUAL MISNDUCT THE DTRY. THAT ONE ME TOGETHER PRETTY QUICKLY, RGWALD SAYS. HER JOHN HUGH PIECE, HOWEVER, VOLVED REPORTG, LAYERS OF NSIRATN AND REFLECTN, AND MULTIPLE DRAFTS. SHE REVISS THE BREAKFAST CLUB, SIXTEEN CANDL, AND PRETTY PK—THE MOVI THAT FED HER REER—THROUGH A CRIL EYE SHARPENED BY THE NVERSATNS GOG AROUND TODAY. SHE REILS AT THE SCEN WHICH JOHN LOOKS UNR CLAIRE’S SKIRT THE BREAKFAST CLUB, OR WHEN SEX WH JAKE’S DNK GIRLIEND IS BARTERED EXCHANGE FOR SAMANTHA’S UNRWEAR SIXTEEN CANDL. SHE CHRONICL THE HARDLY VEILED RACISM AND HOMOPHOBIA OF HUGH’ FILMS, REARCH TO HUGH’ PROBLEMATIC PRE-BREAKFAST CLUB WORKS, AND WONRS HOW SHE ULD JTIFY ANY OF THIS FOR HER TEENAGE DGHTER.IT’S A REMARKABLE PIECE OF FILM CRICISM, HARDLY THE ONLY TO RENSIR HUGH’ REER BUT THE FIRST TO BE WRTEN BY HIS STAR-MAKG ME. SHE GRAPPL WH THE GRAYNS OF PLEX IAS THAT ARE TOO OFTEN THOUGHT OF THE BARY; KNOCKS THE NOTN THAT, BEE OF THE HALLOWED FLUENCE OF HIS FILMS, HUGH’ TALOGUE IS SACROSANCT; AND GIV RPECT AND SPACE TO HER OWN EXPERIENC AND RELATNSHIP TO HIM.“THOSE FILMS ARE CREDIBLY MEANGFUL TO ME,” SHE SAYS. “THEY ARE SO MUCH A PART OF MY PERSONAL HISTORY AND THEY’RE ALSO A PART OF OTHER PEOPLE’S HISTORY. I WANTED TO TREAD REFULLY ABOUT THAT. I WAS ALSO G OUT AT OM ’S NOT BLACK AND WHE. THERE ARE LAYERS TO . IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO WRE.”THERE’S A PARTICULAR PASSAGE OF THE SAY THAT RONAT MOST.“HOW ARE WE MEANT TO FEEL ABOUT ART THAT WE BOTH LOVE AND OPPOSE?” SHE WR. “WHAT IF WE ARE THE UNUAL POSN OF HAVG HELPED CREATE …JOHN’S MOVI NVEY THE ANGER AND FEAR OF ISOLATN THAT ADOLCENTS FEEL, AND SEEG THAT OTHERS MIGHT FEEL THE SAME WAY IS A BALM FOR THE TRMA THAT TEEN-AGERS EXPERIENCE. WHETHER THAT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE IMPROPRIETY OF THE FILMS IS HARD TO SAY—EVEN CRICIZG THEM MAK ME FEEL LIKE I’M DIVTG A GENERATN OF SOME OF S FONST MEMORI, OR BEG UNGRATEFUL SCE THEY HELPED TO TABLISH MY REER. AND YET EMBRACG THEM ENTIRELY FEELS HYPOCRIL. AND YET, AND YET…”RGWALD TELLS WAS NERVE-WRACKG TO ARTICULATE THAT, BUT SHE’S FOUND GRATIFYG THAT, RATHER THAN BE ACCED OF CEMATIC BLASPHEMY OR SOMEHOW BEG UNGRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT LNCHED HER REER, PEOPLE ACTUALLY HEARD HER. TRIBE FILM FTIVAL “YOU ALWAYS HOPE THAT WHEN YOU WRE SOMETHG THAT WILL BE UNRSTOOD THE WAY YOU TEND , AND I FEEL LIKE FOR THE MOST PART HAS BEEN,” SHE SAYS. “ALL OF THOSE MOVI THAT I DID, I ACT THEM—I DIDN’T WRE THEM. SO ’S LIKE I HAVE A CERTA FEELG OF OWNERSHIP, BUT NOT ENTIRELY. WHEN YOU WRE SOMETHG, FOR ME ’S THE CLOST I N FEEL TO, ‘I DID THIS. THIS IS ME. THIS IS HOW I FEEL AND NO ONE CHANGED .’ SO ’S THIS FEELG OF OWNERSHIP.”OUR NVERSATN TURNS TO THE GREATER #METOO MOVEMENT THAT SPIRED HER TO WRE THE PIECE. “THE WORLD FEELS LIKE ’S SHIFTG A LTLE B,” SHE SAYS. SHE REGNIZ HOW OFTEN WHAT SEEM LIKE HOT CULTURAL NVERSATNS TEND TO EVENTUALLY DISSIPATE AS THE STEAM WAFTS OFF THEM, PECIALLY THIS NEWS CYCLE, BUT SAYS, “THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED, THOUGH. IT JT FEELS DIFFERENT…WE’RE NOT THROUGH. I FEEL LIKE ’S GOG TO BE A LTLE B MSY FOR A WHILE. PEOPLE ARE STILL FIGURG OUT THE L. BUT ALSO NEW GENERATNS ARE G TOO, WH DIFFERENT POLIL VIEWS AND DIFFERENT POTS OF VIEW. THGS ARE CHANGG. THGS HAVE TO CHANGE.”BEFORE WE SAY GOODBYE, WE TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE NEXT CROP OF MOVI BEG PARED TO JOHN HUGH FILMS: EVERY FEW YEARS, AND ANY TIME THERE’S A TREND OF G-OF-AGE STORI HTG THEATERS FEATURG A NEW GENERATN OF ACTORS, THE PARISONS ARE MA. RGWALD SAYS SHE’S ACTUALLY ADAPTG THE BOOK WHEN WE WERE ANIMALS TO HOPEFULLY DIRECT. “IT’S A PART I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO PLAY THEN,” SHE SAYS. “I WOULDN’T NECSARILY LL JOHN HUGH. IT’S A LTLE DARKER.”SHE’S EXCED FOR THE CHLOE GRACE MORETZ-STARRG THE MISTN OF CAMERON POST, A G-OF-AGE-DRAMEDY SET AT A GAY NVERSN THERAPY MP, AND WAS POLELY ENTHIASTIC WHILE WE GHED ABOUT BO BURNHAM’S EIGHTH GRA, BOTH OF WHICH PREMIERED AT THIS YEAR’S SUNDANCE FILM FTIVAL. SHE’S SEEN LOVE, SIMON, AND EXPLOS A SE WHEN I BRG UP.“I KNOW THEY WERE KD OF SETTG OUT TO MAKE A GAY JOHN HUGH FILM, WHICH I THK THAT ALONE TO ME IS JT GREAT,” SHE SAYS. “THERE ARE NO GAY CHARACTERS HIS MOVI, LIKE I TALK ABOUT THE ARTICLE THAT I WROTE. WELL, LET’S PUT THIS WAY: THERE ARE NO OPENLY GAY CHARACTERS. I FEEL LIKE THERE’S QUE A FEW CLOSETED GAY CHARACTERS THOSE MOVI.” THEN, LGHG, “BUT THERE’S NO GAY THEM. I FEEL LIKE ’S REALLY TIME FOR THAT, AND I WANT TO SEE THAT.”I GET THE SENSE THAT ’S A QUTN SHE’S BEEN ASKED BEFORE. “I DON’T WANT ANYBODY TO SET OUT AND TRY TO MAKE A RBON PY OF A JOHN HUGH MOVIE, BEE YOU N’T. AND THERE’S NO REASON TO. BEE THAT WAS A PARTICULAR TIME AND PLACE,” SHE SAYS, LAYG OUT A SORT OF DTRY MISSN STATEMENT. “I’M TERTED TO SEE PROJECTS THAT REALLY PTURE WHAT ’S REALLY LIKE TO BE A TEENAGER, WHERE ’S NOT TOO SLICK AND DON’T SEEM LIKE WAS WRTEN BY ADULTS. I THK THAT’S WHAT JOHN HUGH DID SO WELL.” KEV FALLON
MOLLY RGWALD Q&A ON THE REAL-LIFE DUCKIE & JON CRYER’S ‘GAY VIBE’
“Duckie don’t know he’s gay, ” Rgwald said, acrdg to The Huffgton Post. “I thk he lov Andie the way that [my gay bt iend] always loved me.
MOLLY RGWALD SAYS DUCKIE FROM ‘PRETTY PK’ IS GAY, AND SHOULD’VE END UP WH A ‘CUTE GUY’
“Y, she said that the guy whom Duckie was based on was gay.
“Jt e the gaydar is gog off, don’t mean your stments aren’t flty. On the other hand, given the way that the subtle, homophobic humor the work of John Hugh hasn’t exactly aged well, a gay Duckie would provi a nice unterbalance. Hey, wh a gay Duckie, we’d watch.
But then the Brat Pack star starts gabbg about the origal “Pretty Pk” script and Duckie and Jon Cryer’s “gay vibe, ” and she keeps gog and gog.
'PRETTY PK' DIRECTOR HOWARD DTCH ON FILM'S FAMO LOST ENDG AND MOLLY RGWALD'S THEORY THAT DUCKIE WAS SECRETLY GAY
It’s funny you refer to people puttg you the box, bee if anyone n relate ’s the gay muny. So, ’s obv that you have a special relatnship wh the gay muny. How much of a role has the gay muny played your reer?
Also, I started dog mil theater at a really young age and was dog “Annie” the first Wt Coast productn San Francis and LA, and all the drsers were gay.
WHY MOLLY RGWALD SPOKE OUT ABOUT JOHN HUGH AND #METOO: ‘THGS HAVE TO CHANGE’DON’T YOU FORGET ABOUT HERTHE ACTRS TALKS ABOUT HER NEW FILM AT THE TRIBE FILM FTIVAL AND WHY ’S HARD, BUT IMPORTANT, TO RENSIR JOHN HUGH’S LEGACY AT THIS CULTURAL MOMENT.KEV FALLONSENR EDOR, OBSSEDUPDATED APR. 28, 2018 1:34AM EDT / PUBLISHED APR. 27, 2018 9:34PM EDT ERIK TANNER/GETTYTHROUGHOUT HER ENTIRE REER, MOLLY RGWALD HAS BEEN PG CLICHéS.IT’S RIGHT THERE THE SCRIPT FOR THE BREAKFAST CLUB: “YOU SEE AS A BRA, AN ATHLETE, A BASKET SE, A PRCS, AND A CRIMAL,” WHEN, OF URSE, THE TEENAGERS JOHN HUGH CRAFTED WERE ANYTHG BUT THOSE ARCHETYP. THERE’S HER LIGHTNG-BOLT, TIME VER-MTED TAKEOVER OF THE ZEGEIST, REFG THE GéNUE MOVIE STAR FOR A NEW GENERATN WH WHAT CRIC PLE KAEL LLED A “CHARISMATIC NORMALY,” ENPSULATG THE NEW ADOLCENT SPIR.IT APPLI TO THE WAY WHICH SHE SETTLED, ONCE THE FLASHBULBS STOPPED GOG OFF, TO A JOURNEYWOMAN’S ACTG REER ONSTAGE AND ONSCREEN—A HBAND AND THREE CHILDREN OFF-SCREEN—WHEN UTNARY TAL ABOUND VOLVG OTHER YOUNG STARS OF HER STATURE.AND ’S THE WAY SHE TALKS ANKLY ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE THE DTRY AND HER EVOLVED FEELGS ABOUT HER WORK AND THE MSAGE THOSE FILMS SENT, MOST RECENTLY AN SAY FOR THE NEW YORKER RENSIRG HER PROJECTS WH JOHN HUGH THE WAKE OF THE #METOO CULTURAL MOMENT. RGWALD, WHO RECENT YEARS HAS FOUND HERSELF NNECTG WH A NEW GENERATN PLAYG MOTHER TO THE LEADS ON TEEN DRAMAS RIVERDALE AND THE SECRET LIFE OF AN AMERIN TEENAGER, MEETS ME A DOWNTOWN NEW YORK HOTEL DURG THE TRIBE FILM FTIVAL, WHERE HER NEW FILM, ALL THE SMALL MOMENTS, HAD S PREMIERE.AMIDST A DISCSN ABOUT HER CISN TO WRE ABOUT HUGH, WE’RE ONCE AGA MARVELG AT THAT AFOREMENTNED ABILY TO PE CLICHéS, WHICH SHE DO ALL THE SMALL MOMENTS, PLAYG MOTHER TO A TEEN BOY WEATHERG A TUMULTUO G-OF-AGE NEW YORK CY. “I’VE PLAYED MOMS BEFORE,” SHE SAYS. “I’M A MOTHER. I FEEL VERY OFTEN THE MOTHERS ARE VERY ARCHETYPAL. THEY’RE LOVG AND NURTURG AND THEY’LL SAY, ‘YOU’LL FIGURE OUT, HONEY,’ AND PAT THE KID ON THE HEAD AND LEAVE. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNY TO PLAY SOMEBODY WHO WAS MORE PLEX.” “THE WORLD FEELS LIKE ’S SHIFTG A LTLE B…”— MOLLY RGWALD IN THE FILM, HER CHARACTER IS THE PAFUL POSN OF REALIZG HER MARRIAGE MIGHT BE OVER YET STILL ATTEMPTG TO PROVI A SEMBLANCE OF ROUTE FOR HER TWO SONS DURG THE DISSOLUTN. AT ONE POT, HER CHARACTER IS BYG HERSELF KNTG THE KCHEN, AN ATTEMPT TO DISTRACT OM HER ANGER AT HER HBAND. HER SON ASKS IF HE N HELP HER WH ANYTHG, AND SHE EPTS, “Y, AR, YOU N KN ME A FUCKG SWEATER.”RGWALD DO A SP-TAKE WHEN I REUNT THE LE TO HER. “TO ME, THAT’S ABSOLUTELY REAL,” SHE SAYS. “I DON’T THK I’VE EVER ACTUALLY SAID THAT BUT I MIGHT HAVE SAID SOMETHG PARABLE TO ONE OF MY KIDS. IT’S NEVER YOUR BT MOMENT, BUT WE HAVE REALLY GREAT MOMENTS, TOO.”WHAT’S STRIKG ABOUT SPEAKG WH RGWALD IS THAT, THOUGH WE’RE MEETG THE MIDDLE OF A FTIVAL PRS DAY—A GNTLET OF PHOTO LLS AND VIO HS AND SPEED-DATE TERVIEWS AND SOCIAL MEDIA LLOUTS—SHE CIDLY CENTERS HERSELF OUR NVERSATN, RISTG PLATUS AND RETREADS THAT ARE SYSTEMIC OF JUNKET PRS DAYS AND EAGER TO ENGAGE MORE ANALYTILLY WH HER WORK.BEE WE’RE MEETG SO SOON AFTER THE PUBLISHG OF HER NEW YORKER SAY, MUCH OF OUR HALF-HOUR TOGETHER IS SPENT DISCSG POTS SHE BRGS UP HER PIECE—NOT TO MENTN THE TREPIDATN THAT GAVE WAY TO THARSIS WHEN SHE CID TO WRE THE FIRST PLACE.IT’S RGWALD’S SEND SAY FOR THE NEW YORKER. THE FIRST PUBLISHED SOON AFTER THE HARVEY WESTE ALLEGATNS ME OUT, REUNTG HER EXPERIENCE WH SEXUAL MISNDUCT THE DTRY. THAT ONE ME TOGETHER PRETTY QUICKLY, RGWALD SAYS. HER JOHN HUGH PIECE, HOWEVER, VOLVED REPORTG, LAYERS OF NSIRATN AND REFLECTN, AND MULTIPLE DRAFTS. SHE REVISS THE BREAKFAST CLUB, SIXTEEN CANDL, AND PRETTY PK—THE MOVI THAT FED HER REER—THROUGH A CRIL EYE SHARPENED BY THE NVERSATNS GOG AROUND TODAY. SHE REILS AT THE SCEN WHICH JOHN LOOKS UNR CLAIRE’S SKIRT THE BREAKFAST CLUB, OR WHEN SEX WH JAKE’S DNK GIRLIEND IS BARTERED EXCHANGE FOR SAMANTHA’S UNRWEAR SIXTEEN CANDL. SHE CHRONICL THE HARDLY VEILED RACISM AND HOMOPHOBIA OF HUGH’ FILMS, REARCH TO HUGH’ PROBLEMATIC PRE-BREAKFAST CLUB WORKS, AND WONRS HOW SHE ULD JTIFY ANY OF THIS FOR HER TEENAGE DGHTER.IT’S A REMARKABLE PIECE OF FILM CRICISM, HARDLY THE ONLY TO RENSIR HUGH’ REER BUT THE FIRST TO BE WRTEN BY HIS STAR-MAKG ME. SHE GRAPPL WH THE GRAYNS OF PLEX IAS THAT ARE TOO OFTEN THOUGHT OF THE BARY; KNOCKS THE NOTN THAT, BEE OF THE HALLOWED FLUENCE OF HIS FILMS, HUGH’ TALOGUE IS SACROSANCT; AND GIV RPECT AND SPACE TO HER OWN EXPERIENC AND RELATNSHIP TO HIM.“THOSE FILMS ARE CREDIBLY MEANGFUL TO ME,” SHE SAYS. “THEY ARE SO MUCH A PART OF MY PERSONAL HISTORY AND THEY’RE ALSO A PART OF OTHER PEOPLE’S HISTORY. I WANTED TO TREAD REFULLY ABOUT THAT. I WAS ALSO G OUT AT OM ’S NOT BLACK AND WHE. THERE ARE LAYERS TO . IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO WRE.”THERE’S A PARTICULAR PASSAGE OF THE SAY THAT RONAT MOST.“HOW ARE WE MEANT TO FEEL ABOUT ART THAT WE BOTH LOVE AND OPPOSE?” SHE WR. “WHAT IF WE ARE THE UNUAL POSN OF HAVG HELPED CREATE …JOHN’S MOVI NVEY THE ANGER AND FEAR OF ISOLATN THAT ADOLCENTS FEEL, AND SEEG THAT OTHERS MIGHT FEEL THE SAME WAY IS A BALM FOR THE TRMA THAT TEEN-AGERS EXPERIENCE. WHETHER THAT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE IMPROPRIETY OF THE FILMS IS HARD TO SAY—EVEN CRICIZG THEM MAK ME FEEL LIKE I’M DIVTG A GENERATN OF SOME OF S FONST MEMORI, OR BEG UNGRATEFUL SCE THEY HELPED TO TABLISH MY REER. AND YET EMBRACG THEM ENTIRELY FEELS HYPOCRIL. AND YET, AND YET…”RGWALD TELLS WAS NERVE-WRACKG TO ARTICULATE THAT, BUT SHE’S FOUND GRATIFYG THAT, RATHER THAN BE ACCED OF CEMATIC BLASPHEMY OR SOMEHOW BEG UNGRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT LNCHED HER REER, PEOPLE ACTUALLY HEARD HER. TRIBE FILM FTIVAL “YOU ALWAYS HOPE THAT WHEN YOU WRE SOMETHG THAT WILL BE UNRSTOOD THE WAY YOU TEND , AND I FEEL LIKE FOR THE MOST PART HAS BEEN,” SHE SAYS. “ALL OF THOSE MOVI THAT I DID, I ACT THEM—I DIDN’T WRE THEM. SO ’S LIKE I HAVE A CERTA FEELG OF OWNERSHIP, BUT NOT ENTIRELY. WHEN YOU WRE SOMETHG, FOR ME ’S THE CLOST I N FEEL TO, ‘I DID THIS. THIS IS ME. THIS IS HOW I FEEL AND NO ONE CHANGED .’ SO ’S THIS FEELG OF OWNERSHIP.”OUR NVERSATN TURNS TO THE GREATER #METOO MOVEMENT THAT SPIRED HER TO WRE THE PIECE. “THE WORLD FEELS LIKE ’S SHIFTG A LTLE B,” SHE SAYS. SHE REGNIZ HOW OFTEN WHAT SEEM LIKE HOT CULTURAL NVERSATNS TEND TO EVENTUALLY DISSIPATE AS THE STEAM WAFTS OFF THEM, PECIALLY THIS NEWS CYCLE, BUT SAYS, “THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED, THOUGH. IT JT FEELS DIFFERENT…WE’RE NOT THROUGH. I FEEL LIKE ’S GOG TO BE A LTLE B MSY FOR A WHILE. PEOPLE ARE STILL FIGURG OUT THE L. BUT ALSO NEW GENERATNS ARE G TOO, WH DIFFERENT POLIL VIEWS AND DIFFERENT POTS OF VIEW. THGS ARE CHANGG. THGS HAVE TO CHANGE.”BEFORE WE SAY GOODBYE, WE TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE NEXT CROP OF MOVI BEG PARED TO JOHN HUGH FILMS: EVERY FEW YEARS, AND ANY TIME THERE’S A TREND OF G-OF-AGE STORI HTG THEATERS FEATURG A NEW GENERATN OF ACTORS, THE PARISONS ARE MA. RGWALD SAYS SHE’S ACTUALLY ADAPTG THE BOOK WHEN WE WERE ANIMALS TO HOPEFULLY DIRECT. “IT’S A PART I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO PLAY THEN,” SHE SAYS. “I WOULDN’T NECSARILY LL JOHN HUGH. IT’S A LTLE DARKER.”SHE’S EXCED FOR THE CHLOE GRACE MORETZ-STARRG THE MISTN OF CAMERON POST, A G-OF-AGE-DRAMEDY SET AT A GAY NVERSN THERAPY MP, AND WAS POLELY ENTHIASTIC WHILE WE GHED ABOUT BO BURNHAM’S EIGHTH GRA, BOTH OF WHICH PREMIERED AT THIS YEAR’S SUNDANCE FILM FTIVAL. SHE’S SEEN LOVE, SIMON, AND EXPLOS A SE WHEN I BRG UP.“I KNOW THEY WERE KD OF SETTG OUT TO MAKE A GAY JOHN HUGH FILM, WHICH I THK THAT ALONE TO ME IS JT GREAT,” SHE SAYS. “THERE ARE NO GAY CHARACTERS HIS MOVI, LIKE I TALK ABOUT THE ARTICLE THAT I WROTE. WELL, LET’S PUT THIS WAY: THERE ARE NO OPENLY GAY CHARACTERS. I FEEL LIKE THERE’S QUE A FEW CLOSETED GAY CHARACTERS THOSE MOVI.” THEN, LGHG, “BUT THERE’S NO GAY THEM. I FEEL LIKE ’S REALLY TIME FOR THAT, AND I WANT TO SEE THAT.”I GET THE SENSE THAT ’S A QUTN SHE’S BEEN ASKED BEFORE. “I DON’T WANT ANYBODY TO SET OUT AND TRY TO MAKE A RBON PY OF A JOHN HUGH MOVIE, BEE YOU N’T. AND THERE’S NO REASON TO. BEE THAT WAS A PARTICULAR TIME AND PLACE,” SHE SAYS, LAYG OUT A SORT OF DTRY MISSN STATEMENT. “I’M TERTED TO SEE PROJECTS THAT REALLY PTURE WHAT ’S REALLY LIKE TO BE A TEENAGER, WHERE ’S NOT TOO SLICK AND DON’T SEEM LIKE WAS WRTEN BY ADULTS. I THK THAT’S WHAT JOHN HUGH DID SO WELL.” KEV FALLON
I feel like I’ve had some nnectn to the gay muny for a really long time, and I’ve always felt really fortable and accepted and loved the gay muny.
I’m sure you’ve heard me sayg that I thk Duckie’s gay – and, you know, everybody kd of lovg or hatg that – but the real person is gay and he’s married to a man and I’m the godmother to his dghter that he jt had by open adoptn. A lot of gay boys that don’t know they’re gay yet do get csh on their bt iend. After you claimed that Duckie was gay to the prs, Jon Cryer said he thought otherwise.