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SANDRA BERNHARD: THE GAY TERVIEW

On this sunny morng LA, she appears relaxed, a pk-striped shirt and troers, remiscent of the early 80s outfs she wore for her many appearanc on Late Night Wh David is almost a year sce she fished filmg the fal seri of Pose, the much-praised TV drama explorg the ball scene 80s New York and the gay and transgenr artists who built . For sure, there was a gay scene, but everythg sort of meld together. “Roseanne has never turned on the gay muny.

She end up havg the actual kiss wh Merle Hemgway [at a gay bar that Nancy took her to], but nohels, Nancy’s fun, and if they picked up the show aga they’ll expand her story. Everywhere you turn there’s new, tertg gay characters.

Have you heard of the very gay-centric Scht’s Creek?

SANDRA BERNHARD – B, DGHTER, NET WORTH, PARTNER OR WIFE, IS SHE GAY?

But Kathy Griff has been polilly engaged and an activist for the gay muny. I mean, that’s – she certaly tak advantage of the gay populatn her way, but I don’t thk she’s done anythg earth-shatterg for … I mean, I don’t agree.

I don’t ll my dience “my gays. And if your work is very, very darg and tertg, then smart people e to , whether they’re gay, straight, black, whe, men, women. “There was no middle ground for me — a person was gay or not gay.

Beg gay was not for me.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* SANDRA BERNHARD GAY

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They were ont of the stately brick Freric Flemg Hoe, on Wt Twenty-send Street, a rince for formerly homels New Yorkers, where Renee has lived for sixteen years.</p><p class="paywall">“But, honey, you see me all the time,” Bernhard replied. (She walks her dog, Gee, along the block daily.)</p><p class="paywall">Renee, who has no teeth and a quanty of ch hair, eyed Bernhard up and down and told her, “You look different on televisn!” Bernhard is starrg the send season of “<a href=">Pose</a>,” the <a href=">Ryan Murphy</a> drama about the grty, glamoro world of transgenr women and gay men who staged New York’s legendary drag balls. She plays an activist nurse at Roosevelt Hospal durg the height of the <em class="small">AIDS</em> crisis.</p><p class="paywall">“We’ll put your show on the schle,” Martha Bikos, Flemg Hoe’s manager, who was passg by, promised.</p><p class="paywall">“Thank you, sweetheart,” Bernhard said. “This place keeps the neighborhood ground old New York—like there’s still a place where people n <em>live</em>, and not be phed out by twenty-ln-dollar apartments.”</p><p class="paywall">Season 2 of “Pose” is set 1990, when there were still hookers on the piers and Madonna’s “Vogue” vio troduced the culture of ballrooms to viewers of MTV. It was a time when Bernhard and <a href=">Madonna</a> were tight—they were often photographed out together, like a kd of two-head It Girl. “It was really fun. We would go to parti and be bchy—we were bchy to <a href=">Joan Rivers</a>,” Bernhard said. “I had a ltle csh on her, and I loved that people were, like, ‘Ooh, Madonna lik Sandy!’ ”</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p class="paywall">Bernhard has been wh her partner, Sara Swzer, for twenty years, but she don’t e the word “lbian” to scribe herself. “How about ‘sophistited’? How about ‘groovy,’ ‘sexual,’ ‘ternatnal,’ ‘hot,’ ‘swgg’? <em>Those</em> are all words that work for me,” she said, and lghed. She played one of the first queer characters on televisn, on “Roseanne.” “People ed to attack me for not g out and sayg, ‘I’m a dyke,’ ” she said. “All the tastemakers the gay world were handg me my ass, and I thought, You don’t even get ! I was the trench the seventi breakg all the l about what sexualy was! Even when I was sixteen Sttsdale—the most nservative place on Earth!”</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p class="paywall">Bernhard’s father, a proctologist, and her mother, an abstract artist, moved Bernhard and her three brothers to Arizona om Flt, Michigan, when she was ten years old. “As smart as I am, I didn’t really apply myself school, bee all I uld thk about was leavg and beg this fabulo, ternatnal, sophistited person,” she said. From the time she was a child and saw Carol Channg “Hello, Dolly!,” she knew that she wanted to be a performer. After high school, she went to Israel and worked on a kibbutz for ne months, then moved to Los Angel. She supported herself by workg as a manicurist: for five years, she clipped cuticl and entertaed her clients, who clud Victoria Prcipal—“always a jnty hat”—and Dyan Cannon.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p class="paywall">“I beme part of whatever was happeng at the time, gog to Stud One—which was like Stud 54, L.A., but wh all gay men. I was the only woman there.” Like <a href=">Bette Midler</a>—one of Bernhard’s early idols—who got her start performg New York’s bathho, Bernhard was embraced by the drag mimon. She uld relate to drag—creatg a persona was as much a part of her art as sgg or standup was. “I was ed to beg brash and over the top and fun, and makg claratns and proclamatns,” she said.</p><p class="paywall">Bernhard’s edge—her roilg mix of passn, rage, and w—is what led <a href=">Mart Srse</a> to st her as Jerry Lewis’s stalker “<a href=">The Kg of Comedy</a>,” her breakout role, 1981. “Jt gettg the role, I had arrived,” she said. “<a href=">Debra Wger</a> was up for , and I thk <a href=">Meryl Streep</a>. Nobody else uld have done —he was lookg for the person I <em>was</em> to make the role work.”</p><p class="paywall">Now the sixty-four-year-old mother of a llege stunt, Bernhard, who was drsed, a style she lled “ntil but nice,” a striped jersey and jeans, has a disarmgly gentle vibe person. “I’ve gotten ls shady,” she said. “People still want me to be bchy, but I don’t enjoy anymore.”</p><p class="paywall">Renee produced a cmpled piece of paper om her pocket and asked for an tograph. “To the olt lady on W 22nd St,” Bernhard wrote. ♦</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR daRVRt persistent-asi" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box ArticlePageSplAdRail-OyjwD jikppc"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailContent-jsltpq iZDmmY spl-ad-rail-ntent"><div 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