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All three have their own robt reers, but when they e together, ’s like the die-rock equivalent of puttg Nutella and marshmallow fluff on your PB&J; so good that you n’t image why you weren’t dog all along.</p><p>Boygeni’s first full-length stud album, appropriately tled <em>The Rerd</em>, was released at midnight on Friday. Ahead of that momento ocsn, <em>Vogue</em> spoke to Baker, Bridgers, and Dac about preparg to be perceived by the world yet aga, workg wh Kristen Stewart on the album’s acpanyg film, and regnizg the impact they have on young fans (pecially those who are queer and/or transgenr) whout succumbg to the prsure to be role mols 24/7. Read the full terview below:</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p><strong><em>Vogue:</em> How are you feelg as you prepare for the album to e out?</strong></p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="o7ez1p"></div></div><p><strong>Phoebe Bridgers:</strong> I mean, ’s gog to happen a uple of hours, so how much more preparg n we do?</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p><strong>Julien Baker:</strong> We’re lettg go and lettg God. [<em>Lghs</em>.]</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Bridgers:</strong> I thk we’re all really ready, though. Like, we rerd over a year ago, and we started wrg a year and a half before that.</p><p><strong>What lsons did you take away om the release of your</strong> <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><strong>EP 2018</strong></a> <strong>that you’re tryg to apply now?</strong></p><p><strong>Lucy Dac:</strong> I mean, mostly that we want to do . [<em>Lghs</em>.] I’ve been wag for this moment for our entire iendship, really, bee the EP was not supposed to be the highlight of that tour; the tour was supposed to be a triple-bill thg, and then we turned to a band and were like, We should do this for real. And now we are! It’s crazy.</p><p><strong>If there were a siblg dynamic between the EP and</strong> <em><strong>The Rerd</strong></em><strong>, what do you thk would be?</strong></p><p><strong>Baker:</strong> I thk ’s an olr-younger brother thg, not bee our younger selv were ls mature, but terms of havg ls rourc to brg those younger selv to un. The band self was a baby, that we were only jt beg a band.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="men03g"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="vgu6"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa dUONRr body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Bridgers:</strong> <em>The Rerd</em> also has more mcle; I don’t know, ’s jt a ltle heartier. I thk of as an olr brother.</p><p><strong>Baker:</strong> There’s the same dynamic range, but <em>The Rerd</em> feels more thoughtful how navigat that range. So also feels like ’s evolvg forward.</p><p><strong>Do you have any band ruals or ways you take re of yourselv and each other while preparg to lnch somethg so huge?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Dac:</strong> Well, this is cute: We’re gog to go to Sound Cy tonight after our film premiere and listen to the rerd together wh a few people who worked on . That’s where we ma the EP, but we haven’t been back, so I like to listen wh the ears of the world. Phoebe was sayg that ’s like when you have a csh on somebody, and you look at your own Instagram to see if you’d look cute to them.</p><figure data-ttid="IameEmbed" class="IameEmbedWrapper-sc-dRedg hZiq iame-embed"><div data-ttid="IameEmbedContaer" class="IameEmbedContaer-hptgUZ hYeBJK"><div class="IameEmbedAspectRatWrapper-hFVJps kaOLzO"><iame class="IameEmbedContent-cMdiev csnuAY IameEmbedContent lazyload" height="300px" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-popups allow-same-orig" tle="Embedd Frame" data-src=" allow="toplay *; encrypted-media *; clipboard-wre; toplay; fullscreen; picture--picture"></iame></div></div></figure><p><strong>What was like workg wh Kristen Stewart on the film?</strong></p><p><strong>Dac:</strong> It was awome. 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The Inic Supers Open Up About Their Fabulo Then—and Now</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY kLWdHC summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH epKWKp byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd kxuydN gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Sally Sger</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw fkGtfq ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="m8njxl"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs laPXdt"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="pvlvdr"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa dUONRr body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Baker:</strong> That, and the nstant animatn. Hontly, I felt very seen by her nstantly movg and beg unable to s down for five sends, ever.</p><p><strong>Dac:</strong> We had to do a prentatn of our vio to the label, and Phoebe and Julien left, and Kristen was like, “Please stay.” I watched her get on top of the nference-room table and act out the entire thg, g her body and the wall and thgs the room as props. It was pletely engrossg to watch her story-tell about what we were gog to story-tell; she’s jt a very engaged and engagg person.</p><p><strong>Baker:</strong> It’s also jt ol to see someone so mted to their craft get exced about yours.</p><p><strong>I know you guys talked about this your</strong> <a href=" target="_blank"><strong>recent Them terview</strong></a><strong>, but what is like to be a visibly queer band puttg out work to a world that’s currently so hostile to the LGBTQ+ muny?</strong></p><p><strong>Dac:</strong> Can I say that jt feels good? We’re all pretty to the queer joy ncept and liftyle, and jt to have shown up and ma somethg that is joyful and realized is a drop the bucket that I n be proud of.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Baker:</strong> I try to tell myself that the willgns to learn publicly is the real work, not knowg everythg already.</p><p><strong>Bridgers:</strong> I’m so proud of our group dynamic, and as a bisexual woman straight relatnships, feels weird to talk about so much. That said, I wish there were more typ of queer people visible to me when I was growg up, and when to our band and our shared dynamic, I have no shame about steppg forward and beg like, “This is what we look like and how we feel and what we believe .” It’s funny talkg about visibily, bee you n’t assume that any of are gay, so we do have to talk about . It’s like that wh genr stuff, too; like, I know a lot of people who prent a way that isn’t accurate to their genr, so all of the thgs do need to be spoken about a ltle b more. Maybe you n tch all flaggg at tim. I don’t md talkg about , pecially wh the guys, bee ’s jt another thg we relate on, but we don’t have the rponsibily of beg anybody’s role mol. Like, I thk ’s weird to put that on people media to be role mols or fuckg policians, as if we’re all traed lobbyists for llective change. I re, but I’m not a scientist. I read the distilled stuff for dummi, so to speak on really important stuff…we may not be experts the thgs, but we are the experts of our own liv. So, I feel better about talkg about our experienc and reprentg queerns general. 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So to your pot about not havg to be role mols, Phoebe, I thk your work n do that whout any of you havg to assume the burn.</strong></p><p><strong>Dac:</strong> I mean, we’ve been pretty terse wh what we put on social media, but bee I’m a flamg softy, I did have this urge to be like, You know we ma this ’e we love you, right?</p><p><strong>Is there anyone or any group you really hope this album reach?</strong></p><p><strong>Bridgers:</strong> I jt hope that, like wh all my favore bands, will eventually be taken away by some parents.</p><p><strong>Baker:</strong> When you were talkg about the kids beg at Lucy’s show wh their moms, I’m like…I want the dad to go too, and see how happy the kid is, and not unrstand or nnect to but still be like, This is important. 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