Matthew V - "The Gay Debate: The Bible and Homosexualy" transcript

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• RECENT POSTSREPORT: FBI DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER WRAY LIED UNR OATH ABOUT TARGETG CATHOLICSHOW GOOD ARE ATHEIST ATTEMPTS TO RATNALLY GROUND MORAL VALU AND DUTI?THE WTERY KNIGHT’S FAVORE BIBLE VERSCANADA, FRANCE AND JAPAN ARE PLANNG TO CREASE THEIR NUCLEAR POWER PRODUCTNDEMOCRAT MAYOR PLEADS GUILTY TO 140 CHILD PORNOGRAPHY CHARGGAY MARRIAGE BATE: MICHAEL BROWN BAT ERIC SMAW ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGESTT KLENDORF FENDS THE PRO-LIFE VIEW ON THE UNBELIEVABLE RAD SHOWDID DEI TRAER KIKE OJO-THOMPSON HARASS AND BULLY RICHARD BILKSZTO TO END HIMSELF?FACEBOOK CENSORED POSTS AT THE REQUT OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY / BIN ADMISTRATNIS THE BIBLE’S FN OF FAH OPPOSED TO LOGIC AND EVINCE? RECENT MENTS
• WHY ‘GOD AND THE GAY CHRISTIAN’ IS WRONG ABOUT THE BIBLE AND SAME-SEX RELATNSHIPS
• EVANGELIL AND GAY
• MY RPONSE TO MATTHEW V´GAY THEOLOGY
• GOD AND THE GAY CHRISTIAN: A REVIEW

RECENT POSTSREPORT: FBI DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER WRAY LIED UNR OATH ABOUT TARGETG CATHOLICSHOW GOOD ARE ATHEIST ATTEMPTS TO RATNALLY GROUND MORAL VALU AND DUTI?THE WTERY KNIGHT’S FAVORE BIBLE VERSCANADA, FRANCE AND JAPAN ARE PLANNG TO CREASE THEIR NUCLEAR POWER PRODUCTNDEMOCRAT MAYOR PLEADS GUILTY TO 140 CHILD PORNOGRAPHY CHARGGAY MARRIAGE BATE: MICHAEL BROWN BAT ERIC SMAW ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGESTT KLENDORF FENDS THE PRO-LIFE VIEW ON THE UNBELIEVABLE RAD SHOWDID DEI TRAER KIKE OJO-THOMPSON HARASS AND BULLY RICHARD BILKSZTO TO END HIMSELF?FACEBOOK CENSORED POSTS AT THE REQUT OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY / BIN ADMISTRATNIS THE BIBLE’S FN OF FAH OPPOSED TO LOGIC AND EVINCE? RECENT MENTS

MB: Matthew thks that God himself did not unrstand the ncept of sexual orientatn and advertently hurt gays bee of his lack of knowledge. This is important bee the statistics show that gay relatnships (pendg on whether is female-female or male-male) are prone to stabily and/or fily. Gay relatnships do not normally value permanence and exclivy the way that oppose-sex marriage relatnships do, pecially where the uple regularly attends church.

We have published studi like this one showg that there are negative impacts to children who are raised by gay upl, which dovetails wh studi showg that children need a mother and that children need a father. I wrote prevly about the argument that gay activists e where they say “if you don’t agree wh me and celebrate me and affirm me, then I’ll m suici”. I don’t fd the threats to self-stctn to be a nvcg argument for the tth of the view that gay marriage beg the same as heterosexual marriage.

In fact, this is nfirmed by a recent study which showed that featur of gay relatnships themselv, and not social disapproval, is to blame for high rat of suici the gay muny. V seems to want to argue that the ntext which the Bible thors were wrg did not allow them to addrs the problem of gays “long-term”, “fahful” relatnships.

WHY ‘GOD AND THE GAY CHRISTIAN’ IS WRONG ABOUT THE BIBLE AND SAME-SEX RELATNSHIPS

In addn, V is tryg to argue that 1) the Bible thors were not aware of “long-term”, “fahful” gay relatnships and 2) their failure to explicly disqualify the “long-term”, “stable” gay sexual relatnships means that the Bible actually ndon them.

Every sgle Christian before V, who were closer to J’ teachgs than V, unrstood the vers that Brown ced to be providg a blanket prohibn on homosexual sex acts. Matthew V, an openly gay, evangelil Christian and the thor of “God and the Gay Christian: The Biblil Case Support of Same-Sex Relatnships, ” has been actively enuragg nservative Christians to re-evaluate their beliefs about homosexualy. Caleb Kaltenbach, lead pastor of Disvery Church Simi Valley, Calif,, to talk privately wh a small group of evangelil lears to discs what the Bible says about gay relatnships.

EVANGELIL AND GAY

Kaltenbach is the thor of the forthg book “Msy Grace, ” which is about how he rencil his nservative Christian nvictns wh his experience as the child of gay the ssn, they were each asked to terpret some of the most ced vers relatg to homosexualy the Bible. Therefore, Christians today have to ask whether gay relatnships n fulfill the re prcipl of Scripture’s teachgs about marriage.

Do not be ceived: Neher the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostut nor homosexual offenrs nor thiev nor the greedy nor dnkards nor slanrers nor swdlers will her the kgdom of God.

In this text, Pl two Greek words—malakoi and arsenokoai—that likely refer to some forms of male same-sex behavr, but not the morn ncept of homosexualy.

MY RPONSE TO MATTHEW V´GAY THEOLOGY

The issue of homosexualy, of the ordatn of gay clergy and of the blsg of same-sex unns, has ed tremendo divisns the church recent s, and the church remas substantially divid over the issue today. On the one hand, the most mon them voiced by those who support changg tradnal church teachg on homosexualy are those of acceptance, cln, and love, while on the other hand, those who oppose the chang exprs ncerns about sexual pury, hols, and most fundamentally, the place of Scripture our muni.

GOD AND THE GAY CHRISTIAN: A REVIEW

And so acrdg to this view, if someone is gay, then their sexual orientatn is a sign of the fall, a sign of human fallenns and brokenns. Christians who are gay – those who are only attracted to members of the same sex – are th lled to rea om actg on those attractns, to ny themselv, to take up their cross and to follow Christ. But the nsequence of the tradnal terpretatn of the Bible is that, while straight people are told to avoid lt, sual relatnships, and promiscuy, gay people are told to avoid romantic relatnships entirely.

But gay people, though they are pable of and sire lovg relatnships that are jt as important to them, are told that, for them, even lifelong, mted relatnships would be sful, bee their sexual orientatn is pletely broken. Gay people’s sexual orientatn is so broken, so msed up that nothg good n e om – no morally good, godly relatnship uld ever e om .