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LIFE IS A SACRED TEXT SUBSCRIBESIGN {"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","URL":","MAENTYOFPAGE":","HEADLE":"GOD LOVES YOU GAY GAY GAY","SCRIPTN":"CLOBBERG THE CLOBBER TEXT","IMAGE":[{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":"}],"DATEPUBLISHED":"2023-05-08T09:58:52+00:00","DATEMODIFIED":"2023-05-08T09:58:52+00:00","ISACCSIBLEFORFREE":TE,"THOR":[{"@TYPE":"PERSON","NAME":"RABBI DANYA RUTTENBERG","URL":","SCRIPTN":"RABBI DANYA RUTTENBERG IS AN AWARD-WNG THOR & SCHOLAR RINCE AT THE NATNAL COUNCIL OF JEWISH WOMEN. HER LATT BOOK, HAILED BY THE GREAT REBEC SOLN AS \"BRILLIANT,\" IS ON REPENTANCE AND REPAIR: MAKG AMENDS AN UNAPOLOGETIC WORLD.","INTIFIER":"ER:553625","SAMEAS":["],"IMAGE":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","NTENTURL":","THUMBNAILURL":"}}],"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LIFE IS A SACRED TEXT ","URL":","SCRIPTN":"SPACE TO SAY TE THGS, WH ANCIENT STORI SERVG AS MIRRORS AND LIGHTS.","TERACTNSTATISTIC":{"@TYPE":"INTERACTNCOUNTER","NAME":"SUBSCRIBERS","TERACTNTYPE":","ERINTERACTNCOUNT":10000},"INTIFIER":"PUB:278793","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","NTENTURL":","THUMBNAILURL":"},"IMAGE":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","NTENTURL":","THUMBNAILURL":"},"SAMEAS":["]}}SHARE THIS POSTGOD LOVES YOU GAY GAY COPY LKFACEBOOKEMAILNOTOTHERGOD LOVES YOU GAY GAY GAYCLOBBERG THE CLOBBER TEXT RABBI DANYA RUTTENBERGMAY 8, 202388SHARE THIS POSTGOD LOVES YOU GAY GAY COPY LKFACEBOOKEMAILNOTOTHER29SHARETHIS IS LIFE AS A SACRED TEXT, AN EXPANSIVE, LOVG, EVERYBODY-CELEBRATG, NOBODY-DIMISHED, JTICE-CENTERED VOYAGE TO ONE OF THE WORLD’S MOST ANCIENT AND HOLY BOOKS. WE’RE GENERALLY WORKG OUR WAY THROUGH LEVIC THE DAYS. MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT HERE, AND TO SUBSCRIBE, GO HERE.IT’S TIME, AR IENDS, TO ADDRS ANOTHER (*DRAMATIC HEAVY METAL TRO*)CLOBBER TEXT.

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First ed at a gay Jewish weddg 1986, the br ahuvim, or lover’s ntract, rporat the stcture of a shtar shutafim, or bs partnership.

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For their weddg, Greenberg and Cohen turned to Rabbi Steve Greenberg, the first openly gay Orthodox rabbi, to velop a ceremony which bed bs partnership ntracts wh Jewish tradns of vow-takg and oaths to create a bdg agreement of obligatns unr Jewish law. “There were not that many halachilly mted gay Jews out there who were tryg to get married wh the purview of halacha, and really took serly, ” she said.

“My biggt fear was that my parents would go to shul and people would say, ‘oh, they’re the parents of that gay girl, ’” Lnbm said “And that is exactly what happened, but my parents were so proud of .

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They’re among many gay Jewish upl rooted tradnal observance who see their weddgs as not jt personal celebratns, but public exampl of what’s possible the observant muny more broadly.

“I wanted this feelg of faiary for people to whom gay love is unfaiar, ” Lnbm said. More about the project here, and to subscribe, go ’s time, ar iends, to addrs another (*dramatic heavy metal tro*)Clobber texts, for those who don’t know, are the vers ed to beat people over the head and tell them, mostly, that they are bad and wrong for beg gay, bi, queer, pan, trans, lbian, or elsewise LGBT2QIA+. Folks om queer Jewish muni all over the untry—you n see almost more signs than people holdg them, here, spect this was before the party really got started—at the 1982 NYC Gay Pri Para.

To’e ata bah [you will go astray bee of ]" (Talmud Nedarim 51a)This unrstandg certaly ma sense the Rabbis’ world, when male homosexualy and Gre-Roman culture were so tertwed. Is Daniel Sharman Gay?

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Many reports on the Inter claimed Daniel as gay.

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class><div class="available-ntent"><div dir="to" class="body markup"><p><em><span>This is </span><strong>Life as a Sacred Text</strong><span>, an expansive, lovg, everybody-celebratg, nobody-dimished, jtice-centered voyage to one of the world’s most ancient and holy books. We’re generally workg our way through Levic the days. More about the project </span><a href=" rel>here</a><span>, and </span><strong><span>to subscribe, go </span><a href=" rel>here</a><span>.</span></strong></em></p><div><hr /></div><p>It’s time, ar iends, to addrs another </p><p>(*dramatic heavy metal tro*)</p><h1 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget">CLOBBER TEXT.<div id="§clobber-text" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h1><p>Clobber texts, for those who don’t know, are the vers ed to beat people over the head and tell them, mostly, that they are bad and wrong for beg gay, bi, queer, pan, trans, lbian, or elsewise LGBT2QIA+. </p><p><span>The biggt on are Levic 18:22 and 20:13. I’ve already discsed at length why the </span><strong><a href=" rel>s of Sodom isn’t sodomy</a></strong><span>. And I will not addrs the New Ttament vers that get ed to clobber bee that is Not My Lane (tm) but I will send you to </span><strong><a href=" rel>QueerTheology</a></strong><span> &</span><a href=" rel> </a><strong><a href=" rel>QueerGrace</a><span> </span></strong><span>(and NB QG’s great </span><strong><a href=" rel>book list</a></strong><span>) for that particular set of, well, queri. </span></p><p>Ok. Translatns me. Translatns are terpretatns. All of them. Though I’m tryg to be as leral as possible. I’m sure other Hebrew rears will disagree wh my choic—ls leral brackets. </p><blockquote><p><em>וְאֶת־זָכָר לֹא תִשְׁכַּב מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה תּוֹעֵבָה הִוא׃</em></p><p><em>A male—do not lie wh the lygs of a woman; is a toevah/terrible thg. (Levic 18:22)</em></p><p><em>וְאִישׁ אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁכַּב אֶת־זָכָר מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה תּוֹעֵבָה עָשׂוּ שְׁנֵיהֶם מוֹת יוּמָתוּ דְּמֵיהֶם בָּם׃</em></p><p><em>If a man who li wh a male the lygs of a woman—both of them have mted a toevah/terrible thg: die, they will die [they will certaly die]; their blood is them [upon them]. (Levic 20:13)</em></p></blockquote><p><span>Firstly. Yeah, I ma the choice not to translate </span><em>toevah </em><span>as “abomatn” as a way of pullg you out of habuated ways of thkg and maybe pull off some of what you’ve cid “abomatn” means whout thkg about what </span><em>toevah</em><span> might mean ntext. </span></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="236" height="320" data-attrs="{"src":" snowman stuffy ","tle":null,"type":null,"href":null,"belowTheFold":te,"topImage":false,"ternalRedirect":null}" class="sizg-normal" alt="Abomable snowman stuffy " tle="Abomable snowman stuffy " srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">No but actually— this cutie pie abomable snowman is lled איש השלג המתועב /ish sheleg hamuav—muav, om toevah. </figptn></figure></div><h4 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget"><span>Send, what </span><em>might</em><span> mean ntext? Well, let’s see what else is </span><em>toevah</em><span>, shall we? </span><div id="§send-what-might--mean--ntext-well-lets-see-what-else-is-toevah-shall-we" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h4><ul><li><p><span>The Egyptians might not eat bread wh the Israel; for that is a </span><em>toevah</em><span> to the Egyptians. (</span><a href=" rel>Genis 43:32</a><span>)</span></p></li><li><p><span>Every shepherd was </span><em>toevah</em><span> unto the Egyptians [prumably (?) bee the ram was the sacred animal of two Egyptian gods, Amun and Khnum.] (</span><a href=" rel>Genis 46:34</a><span>).</span></p></li><li><p><span>Pharaoh was so moved by the fourth plague, that while he refed the mand of Mos, he offered a promise, grantg to the Israel permissn to hold their ftival and offer their sacrific Egypt. This permissn uld not be accepted, bee Mos said they would have to sacrifice "the </span><em>toevah</em><span> of the Egyptians" (</span><a href=" rel>Exod 8:22</a><span>). </span><div class="footnote-hoverrd-target"><a class="footnote-anchor" data-ponent-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1-119945176" href=" rel>1</a></div></p></li></ul><p><strong>Y, the thgs are </strong><em><strong>toevah</strong></em><strong> to the Egyptians. They’re fe for the Israel, but </strong><em><strong>toevah</strong></em><strong> om the Egyptian POV.</strong><span> </span></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="1024" height="683" data-attrs="{"src":" Beth Simchat Torah, NYC's Gay Synagogue.","tle":null,"type":"image/eg","href":null,"belowTheFold":te,"topImage":false,"ternalRedirect":null}" class="sizg-normal" alt="Congregatn Beth Simchat Torah, NYC's Gay Synagogue." tle="Congregatn Beth Simchat Torah, NYC's Gay Synagogue." srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">Folks om queer Jewish muni all over the untry—you n see almost more signs than people holdg them, here, spect this was before the party really got started—at the 1982 NYC Gay Pri Para. </figptn></figure></div><h4 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget"><em>Toevah </em><span>is also ed elsewhere the Torah or more broadly Hebrew Bible to refer to:</span><div id="§toevah-is-also-ed-elsewhere-the-torah-or-more-broadly--hebrew-bible-to-refer-to" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h4><ul><li><p>idolatry or idols (Dteronomy 7:25, Dteronomy 13:14, Isaiah 44:19)</p></li><li><p>adultery (Ezekiel 22:11) </p></li><li><p>illic marriage (Dteronomy 24:2-4)</p></li><li><p>cultic prostutn (1 Kgs 14:24)</p></li><li><p>child sacrifice to Molech (Jeremiah 32:35)</p></li><li><p><span>cross-drsg -- likely for the sake of nfg a person for illic reasons (</span><a href=" rel>Rashi on Dteronomy 22:5</a><span>)</span></p></li><li><p>cheatg the market by g rigged weights (Dteronomy 25:13-19, Proverbs 11:1)</p></li><li><p>dishonty (Proverbs 12:22)</p></li><li><p>dietary vlatns (Dteronomy 14:3)— So yeah. Ban.</p></li><li><p>stealg, murr, adultery, swearg falsely, mtg idolatry (Jeremiah 7:9,10)</p></li><li><p>ury, vlent robbery, murr, opprsg the poor and needy, etc. (Ezekiel 18:10-13)</p></li><li><p><a href=" rel>Proverbs 6:16-19</a><span> lists seven thgs which are also </span><em>toevah</em><span>: "hghty ey, a lyg tongue, hands that shed nocent blood, a heart that vis wicked schem, feet that are swift nng to mischief, a false wns who utters li, and one who spreads strife among brothers."</span></p></li></ul><p><span>This is not to say “hey, but they nmn a lot of thgs wh this word” is a </span><em>queer-posive</em><span> read, necsarily, jt want to start out by makg clear that this word is not ed for “unique thg that only appli this one se.” </span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{"url":"" data-ponent-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href=" rel><span>Share</span></a></p><h2 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget">Bee the days when drag bans are gettg passed and gun bans aren’t, knowg your text si and out matters. <div id="§bee--the-days-when-drag-bans-are-gettg-passed-and-gun-bans-arent-knowg-your-text-si-and-out-matters" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h2><p>We have to fight agast the encroachg theocracy many ways at once. One of those ways clus disembowelg bad readgs of sacred texts—pecially the bad readgs that are ed to harm people—at every available opportuny. </p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="728" height="485.3333333333333" data-attrs="{"src":" smoke","tle":null,"type":"image/g","href":null,"belowTheFold":te,"topImage":false,"ternalRedirect":null}" class="sizg-normal" alt="assorted-lor smoke" tle="assorted-lor smoke" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn"></figptn></figure></div><p><span>So. </span><em>toevah</em><span> notwhstandg, </span><strong>what do we thk is gog on this verse, really?</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>A male—do not lie wh the lygs of a woman; is a toevah/terrible thg. (Levic 18:22)</em></p></blockquote><p>Of urse, very much pends on who you ask. There are a few possibili. </p><ol><li><p><span>Most of Levic 18 forbids ct, beastialy, child sacrifice—horrible thgs that imply imbalanced power dynamics some way. Aga, when you juxtapose Genis 19 and Judg 19 to see that what is of ncern </span><em>those</em><span> stori is clearly about sexual asslt and domatn, seems probable to nclu that </span><strong>what is beg forbidn is not a lovg, nsensual relatnship.</strong></p></li><li><p><span>Some suggt that 's tend as a way to apply all the anti-ct stuff Levic 18 and 20 to male relativ. </span><strong>“All that stuff above about not engagg wh your half-sister or your nt? Appli to all the male relativ, too.</strong><span> And </span><em>toevah</em><span> appli to </span><em>ALL THE STUFF IN THIS CHAPTER, Y’ALL (like not sacrificg kids to Moloch or etc).</em><span>” If I unrstand rrectly, Prof. David Tabb Stewart argued this the Queer Bible Commentary, and his teacher Prof. Jab Milgrom (known until his ath 2010 as one of the leadg scholars on Levic), then beme a proponent of as well. </span></p></li></ol><p></p><div class="subscriptn-widget-wrap"><div class="subscriptn-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p>Life is a Sacred Text is a rear-supported publitn. 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I’m not sure how accurate this was or wasn’t historilly, but do matter that this is how the Rabbis sometim read .</span></p></li></ol><blockquote><p><em>"Bar Kappara said to Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, 'What is the meang of the word toevah? To’e ata bah [you will go astray bee of ]" (Talmud Nedarim 51a)</em></p></blockquote><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="170" height="255" data-attrs="{"src":" body wh brown sta","tle":null,"type":"image/g","href":null,"belowTheFold":te,"topImage":false,"ternalRedirect":null}" class="sizg-normal" alt="persons body wh brown sta" tle="persons body wh brown sta" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>This unrstandg certaly ma sense the Rabbis’ world, when male homosexualy and Gre-Roman culture were so tertwed. (Alexanr the Great nquered the Land of Israel 329 BCE; the Romans took over (wh a ltle Hasmonean terlu the middle, there) 63 BCE. They knew what happened the</span><a href=" rel> bathhoe to Aphrode.</a><span>)</span><div class="footnote-hoverrd-target"><a class="footnote-anchor" data-ponent-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2-119945176" href=" rel>2</a></div><span> Whether or not that reflected what was tly gog on the Torah text do seem ls clear, however.</span></p><ol start="4"><li><p><span>Prof. Idan Dershowz has another really pellg theory—that the anti-ct sectn of Levic 18, later edorial addns to two vers that had ially applied to male relativ (or male and female relativ) served to obscure the fact that </span><strong>what was origally prohibed was male-male </strong><em><strong>ct. </strong></em><span>Explicly prohibg, say,</span><a href=" rel> “revealg the nakedns” of one’s father and one’s mother</a><span> would sure imply, of urse, that (other kds of) male same-sex relatnships may have origally been permted. He suggts, then, that Levic 18:22 + 20:13 might have been later addns. You n see his argument </span><a href=" rel> </a><strong><a href=" rel>an old op-ed</a></strong><a href=" rel> </a><span>or </span><a href=" rel> </a><strong><a href=" rel>amic form</a></strong><span>.</span></p></li><li><p>Another Rabbic read:</p><blockquote><p><em>Said Raba, Bar Hamduri explaed to me as follows: “Do not lie wh a male as one li wh a woman [l. the lygs of a woman]” -- Who is a male who has two “lygs?” Conclu: this is an androg. (Talmud Yevamot 83b)</em></p></blockquote><p><span>Here they read Levic as sayg, 'don't have vagal sex wh a tersex person</span><div class="footnote-hoverrd-target"><a class="footnote-anchor" data-ponent-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3-119945176" href=" rel>3</a></div><span>.' Which, aga, is not gog to w any major awards for queer posivy, but </span><strong>is a technique the Rabbis often ploy---fangg a text by terpretg to the narrowt ltle rner possible</strong><span> ("See? This verse only appli the rart of s, barely impacts our liv.”) So what you see here is a Rabbic choice to--spe beg fully aware of other factors (see: idolatry, above)--lean to Operatn Shrk The Verse. It’s textual activism. Which, aga, matters.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Some Jews who embrace Jewish law--which ultimately did read Levic as about male same-sex activy--say: OK, no anal sex, but other stuff y. (And, the rollary: jt as would be generally unthkably to ask a uple where there’s at least one utes-havg person volved how their </span><strong><a href=" rel>niddah/menstal separatn practice</a><span> </span></strong><span>was gog, and ’s none of anyone’s bs—so, too, is what happens the bedroom of a same-sex uple also extremely not anyone’s bs. </span></p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{"url":" Life is a Sacred Text ","actn":null,"class":null}" data-ponent-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href=" rel><span>Share Life is a Sacred Text </span></a></p></li><li><p><span>In ntrast to the proscriptns of the Hols Co, the “lived experience” found elsewhere the Hebrew Bible tells </span><strong>tal of tenr, tragic queer love</strong><div class="footnote-hoverrd-target"><a class="footnote-anchor" data-ponent-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4-119945176" href=" rel>4</a></div><span>. Like: </span></p><blockquote><p><em>When [David] fished speakg wh Sl, Jonathan’s soul beme bound up wh the soul of David; Jonathan loved David as himself. (I Samuel 18:1)..</em></p><p><em>Jonathan said to David, “Whatever you want, I will do for you.” (I Samuel 20:4)</em></p></blockquote><p>Right before they’re about to be separated for an unknown amount of time: </p><blockquote><p><em>David emerged om his ncealment at the Negev. He flung himself face down on the ground and bowed low three tim. They kissed each other and wept together; David wept the longer. (I Samuel 20:41)</em></p></blockquote><p>And after Yonatan/Jonathan di battle, our boy Davy says: </p><blockquote><p><em>I grieve for you, My brother Jonathan, You were most ar to me. Your love was wonrful to me—more than the love of women. (II Samuel 1:26)</em></p></blockquote></li></ol><h3 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget">All this to say, there are MANY genuely possible ways to unrstand the Biblil texts ways that affirm and celebrate lovg partnerships of all genr batns.<div id="§all-this-to-say-there-are-many-genuely-possible-ways-to-unrstand-the-biblil-texts--ways-that-affirm-and-celebrate-lovg-partnerships-of-all-genr-batns" class="hear-anchor-widget offset-top"><div class="hear-anchor-widget-button-ntaer"><div href=" class="hear-anchor-widget-button"><svg xmlns=" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="hear-anchor-widget-in"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></div></div></div></h3><p>The people g to nmn and clobber have way more certaty than is warranted and not enough cril analysis engaged. </p><p>(Also, you will note that lbianism is nowhere this post. We’ll look at those specific vers and the qutns they raise next week. )</p><p>In any se…. </p><p><span>Quick shout out to </span><strong><a href=" rel>A Rabow Thread: An Anthology of Queer Jewish Texts om the First Century to 1969</a><span>, </span></strong><span>to </span><strong><a href=" rel>Khet</a><span>, </span></strong><span>which nurtur LGBTQ+ Jewish life stutnally, to </span><strong><a href=" rel>Svara</a></strong><span> for queer Talmud, and more. But quick, so that for now.</span></p><div><hr /></div><h2 class="hear-wh-anchor-widget">? Like this? 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Ruttenberg</span></span></div><div class="ment-body"><p><span>I most certaly have been clobbered by the vers (I'm not askg for py/apologi/sorrow, so rponrs please don't ??), but any se, I was troduced to another terpretatn of those texts a while back that I found tertg:</span></p><p><span>Essentially that the vers mand men not to lie wh men as if they are lyg wh women. We acknowledge a lens of heteronormativy upon this verse and say, jt don't treat this like a heterosexual relatnship, bee isn't. 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