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<span class="byle-name"><a href=">Tim Fzsimons</a></span></div></sectn><div class="article-body__ntent article-body-font--loadg"><p class="">June marks LGBTQ Pri Month, and this year — as anti-racism protts sweep the untry — the foc of the annual time of queer celebratn and reflectn has been on the relatnship between the fight for LGBTQ equaly and the stggle for racial jtice.</p><p class="">To explore this nnectn, NBC Out and NBC News NOW hosted a special report Thursday tled "Pri and Prott," durg which advot and lears at the tersectn of the Black and queer muni discsed issu om the work of historic gay and trans ins like Bayard Rt and Marsha P. Johnson to prent-day anti-transgenr vlence.</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><div id="taboolaReadMoreBelow"></div><p class="">MSNBC anchor Joshua Johnson morated the special report, whose guts clud "Pose" stars Angeli Ross and Domique Jackson, Pennsylvania state Rep. Mallm Kenyatta, Mneapolis Cy Council member Andrea Jenks, <a href=" target="_blank">Tagg Magaze</a> Edor--Chief Eboné Bell, Human Rights Campaign Print Alphonso David, journalist Tre'vell Anrson and activists Tiq Milan, Ianne Fields Stewart and Ashlee Marie Prton.</p><h2 class=""><strong>Mergg and broang the movements</strong></h2><p class="">Reflectg upon <a href=">the "mergg" of the LGBTQ movement wh the anti-racism protts sweepg the untry</a>, David said, "Te liberatn is the goal, not only for LGBTQ people, but for Black people and all people of lor this untry."</p><p class="">Kenyatta, a Democrat who reprents North Philalphia, said prott movements Pennsylvania have been cril to efforts to ph for change the polil arena.</p><div class="pullquote pullquote--small"><p class="pullquote__quote">"We create a hierarchy of inty our var circl, and some s ... if you're a queer person, you have to leave your sexual orientatn or genr inty at the door if you want to foc on your race or vice versa; we need to create an environment where you don't have to choose."</p><p class="pullquote__attributn"><ce class="pullquote__ce">Alphonso David, Human Rights Campaign</ce><span class="pullquote__quip"></span></p></div><p class="">"Bee of folks who, for 19 days now Pennsylvania, have been out every sgle day mandg that we dispt the systems that have treated folks who are Black and brown, who are LGBTQ, who exist on the margs absolutely horribly ... we know that we need big change," he said.</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">After <a href=" target="_blank">a recent prott Brooklyn, New York, drew an enormo crowd</a> and highlighted the growg tersectns between the movements for Black liv and LGBTQ rights, panelists discsed the need to make both movements more clive of each other.</p><p class="">"We create a hierarchy of inty our var circl, and some s ... if you're a queer person, you have to leave your sexual orientatn or genr inty at the door if you want to foc on your race or vice versa; we need to create an environment where you don't have to choose," David said. "We need, as a society, to regnize inty and not assign value on certa inti and value others."</p><p class="">David and Johnson, the morator, referenced as an example the se of Rt, the <a href=">Black gay civil rights in </a>who anized the March on Washgton 1963 but was <a href=" target="_blank">shunned by some fellow civil rights lears due to his sexual orientatn</a>.</p><div><sectn class="related related--sgle dn-prt" data-activy-map="related-article-body-related" data-ttid="related" aria-label="Related ntent"><h3 class="related__tle">Related</h3><div id="related" class="related__ems"><div class="related-em related-em__sgle"><div class="related-em__thumbnail-wrapper"><a href=" data-icid="related" class="related-em__lk related-em__picture-lk"><picture class="related-em__thumbnail__image"><source media="(m-width: 1240px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source media="(m-width: 758px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="" height="60" width="60"/></picture></a><span class="related-em__eyebrow"><a class="related-em__label" href="><span>NBC Out</span></a><a href=" data-icid="related"></a></span></div><div class="related-em__-wrapper"><h3 class="related-em__tle"><a class="" href="><span class="related-em__eyebrow">NBC Out</span></a><a href=" data-icid="related" class="related-em__lk">16 queer black pneers who ma history</a></h3></div></div></div></sectn></div><p class="">That means no tersectg inty ncels out or outweighs any other, Bell said.</p><p class="">"We need spac where we n relate to people," Bell said. "That's what Black pri do for Black queer people."</p><p class="">Jackson said one way she tri to be more clive is by referrg to the muny g the broar LGBTQIA+ muny — referrg to queer, tersex and asexual.</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">"Takg the time to jt say the QIA+ will give those people who don't intify unr the L, G, B or the T to feel clud," Jackson said.</p><div class="pullquote pullquote--small"><p class="pullquote__quote">"Black transns has existed for far longer than we have had language for ."</p><p class="pullquote__attributn"><ce class="pullquote__ce">Ianne Fields Stewart</ce><span class="pullquote__quip"></span></p></div><p class="">Bell agreed: "It's time to brg our other brothers and sisters and siblgs and be clive, bee we n't ask for the same thg and leave out a whole other sectn of our muny."</p><p class="">Fields Stewart said that language, or the lack of , n work to obscure the ntours of the Black LGBTQ experience.</p><p class="">"Black transns has existed for far longer than we have had language for ," Fields Stewart said.</p><p class="">"There's always that person, that ntie, that uncle, that someone ... there's always someone who's the muny who's 'got a ltle extra sugar the tank,' or whatever words we e, so I thk there is an digeney queerns and blackns that we aren't ready to talk about yet," Fields Stewart said. "It has always been there."</p><h2 class="">'We have to name that'</h2><p class="">Even so, many panelists spoke out agast the forc that lead many Black transgenr women's beg victimized by Black men, which Jenks lled a "huge problem."</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">"I have been on the ont l for Black liberatn for as long as I n remember," Jenks said. "The fact remas that many of the murrs you scribed leadg up to this nversatn, here Mneapolis, <a href=">Iyanna Dr</a> ... this vlence is beg brought upon our muny by Black people."</p><p class="">"If we are gog to have an hont discsn, we have to name that," Jenks said.</p><p class="">Tiq Milan said he often pass as cisgenr, "which offers me a level of tonomy and safety that sometim trans women do not get."</p><p class="">"Oftentim that is bee what happens is we are more cled to vtigate femy and vtigate women a way that we don't do to men," Milan said.</p><div><sectn class="related related--sgle dn-prt" data-activy-map="related-article-body-related" data-ttid="related" aria-label="Related ntent"><h3 class="related__tle">Related</h3><div id="related" class="related__ems"><div class="related-em related-em__sgle"><div class="related-em__thumbnail-wrapper"><a href=" data-icid="related" class="related-em__lk related-em__picture-lk"><picture class="related-em__thumbnail__image"><source media="(m-width: 1240px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source media="(m-width: 758px)" srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><source srcSet=" 2x, 1x"/><img loadg="lazy" src=" alt="" height="60" width="60"/></picture></a><span class="related-em__eyebrow"><a class="related-em__label" href="><span>NBC Out</span></a><a href=" data-icid="related"></a></span></div><div class="related-em__-wrapper"><h3 class="related-em__tle"><a class="" href="><span class="related-em__eyebrow">NBC Out</span></a><a href=" data-icid="related" class="related-em__lk">Rally for Black trans liv draws enormo crowd Brooklyn</a></h3></div></div></div></sectn></div><p class="">Ross echoed the sentiment, sayg that spe her "privilege," gaed om her accs to Hollywood, "I have e to unrstand that my privileg, whatever they may be, will not protect me."</p><p class="">Ross said she still feels unsafe walkg down the siwalk "through a group of Black men who go om tllg me to examg my femy a ltle b closer and then they sayg, 'Wa a mute, that's a man,' and all of a sudn, my heart rate go up and I'm not sure if those are the last words I'm gog to hear."</p><div class="ad ad--text-alignment ad-ntaer boxleAd dn-prt" data-ttid="ad__ntaer"><div data-mps="te" data-slot="boxle" data-siz="[[[1000,1],[]],[[758,1],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[728,90],[360,360]]],[[0,0],[[300,250],[700,50],[5,5],[360,360]]]]" data-renr-on-view="te" data-targetg="{}" data-active-tab="te" data-offset-viewport="100" data-ttid="ad__ntaer__ner"></div></div><p class="">Even so, Ross said, the ia that Black fai are more nservative is "rooted" whe supremacy.</p><p class="">"I know that what's really happeng is that so many mothers and fathers are so ncerned about their Black child's safety, cis or trans," Ross said. "That's why every Black child gets a talkg to about how to survive Ameri: what not to do, how to drs, how to talk ... and that extends to the LGBTQ muny. They tell , 'Why would you want to put one more layer of opprsn or one more difficult thg to get to this world? 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