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- FORMER TOP GAY REPUBLIN SAYS RECE PRIEB WAS TOO SRED TO MEET WH HIM
- RNC CHAIRMAN RECE PRIEB IS WRONG ON CHILDREN RAISED BY GAY PARENTSTE OR FALSE?RECE PRIEB SAID THE ‘FACTS SAY’ KIDS RAISED BY SAME-SEX PARENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE DRAWN TO DGS OR CRIME. THAT’S UPDATED FEB. 11, 2019 3:39PM EST / PUBLISHED JUL. 17, 2016 9:00PM EDT PHOTO ILLTRATN BY THE DAILY BEASTBY LREN CARROLL, NEELH MOORTHY, AND ALLISON GRAVREPUBLIN NATNAL COMMTEE CHAIRMAN RECE PRIEB FEND THE PLATFORM OF HIS PARTY AND PRUMPTIVE PRINTIAL NOMEE DONALD TMP ON THE TALK SHOW CIRCU SUNDAY.BUT DID PRIEB HAVE HIS FACTS RIGHT?PRIEB APPEARED ON CNN, ABC, NBC, AND FOX ON THE EVE OF THE REPUBLIN NATNAL CONVENTN CLEVELAND TO DISCS THE STATE OF THE PRINTIAL RACE AND THE STATE OF HIS POLIL PARTY. GOP PLATFORMPRIEB FEND THE 2016 REPUBLIN PARTY PLATFORM AN TERVIEW WH NBC’S CHUCK TODD.WHILE THE PLATFORM ISN’T YET S FAL FORM, MANY OBSERVERS HAVE SAID THE DOCUMENT SO FAR LEANS TO THE RIGHT ON SOCIAL ISSU. TODD ASKED PRIEB ABOUT THE PLATFORM’S POSN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. THE MEET THE PRS ANCHOR REFERENCED ONE DRAFT THAT SAYS “THE DATA, THE FACTS LEAD TO AN PABLE NCLN THAT EVERY CHILD SERV A MARRIED MOM AND DAD”—BASED ON CLAIMS THAT CHILDREN RAISED A TRADNAL HOEHOLD ARE HEALTHIER AND LS LIKELY TO ENGAGE CRIME AND SUBSTANCE ABE. “IT’S IMPLYG SOMEHOW THAT CHILDREN OF SAME-SEX UPL ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE ADDICTS, TO ENGAGE CRIME,” TODD SAID. “DO YOU MEAN TO HAVE IMPLY THAT?” PRIEB REPLIED THAT ’S POSSIBLE FOR CHILDREN OF SAME-SEX PARENTS AND SGLE PARENTS TO LEAD SUCCSFUL LIV, BUT THE BT SCENAR IS FOR CHILDREN TO GROW UP A HOEHOLD WH A MOTHER AND A FATHER.“THE BT SCENAR FOR KIDS IS A LOVG MOM AND DAD,” PRIEB SAID. “HOWEVER, DON’T MEAN AT ALL THAT SGLE PARENTS OR SAME-SEX PARENTS, THAT ANY PARENT AMERI N’T LOVE A CHILD, N’T RAISE A CHILD, AND THAT CHILD N’T BE SUCCSFUL AND LOVED. IT DON’T MEAN THAT. IT JT MEANS WHAT THE FACTS SAY.”DO “THE FACTS SAY” THAT “THE BT SCENAR FOR KIDS IS A LOVG MOM AND DAD” AS OPPOSED TO SAME-SEX PARENTS?NO. THAT CLAIM RAT FALSE.IF ANYTHG, THE SCHOLARLY NSENS IS THAT CHILDREN N FARE JT AS WELL SAME-SEX HOEHOLDS. “THE NSENS IS OVERWHELMG THAT THOSE CHILDREN DO VERY WELL THOSE [SAME-SEX PARENT] FAI, AND THERE’S NO HARM OR BAD NSEQUENCE THAT OCCURS BEE OF THOSE PARENTS NOT BEG OPPOSE SEX,” SAID ELLEN PERR, A PROFSOR AT THE TUFTS UNIVERSY SCHOOL OF MEDICE WHO HAS REARCHED THIS QUTN.REARCHERS AT COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL REVIEWED SCHOLARLY WORKS ABOUT THE WELL-BEG OF CHILDREN LIVG WH GAY OR LBIAN PARENTS SPANNG THE PAST THREE S. THE REARCHERS FOUND 78 RELEVANT ARTICL, AND OF THOSE, 74 NCLUD THAT CHILDREN OF SAME-SEX PARENTS FARE NO WORSE THAN CHILDREN OF OPPOSE-SEX PARENTS. SIX OF THE ARTICL WERE PUBLISHED THE LAST THREE YEARS. THE STUDI EXAME TOPICS SUCH AS ADOLCENT WELL-BEG, CHILD PHYSIL AND EMOTNAL HEALTH, FAY FUNCTNG, AND THE EFFECT OF HOMOPHOBIC STIGMATIZATN.“TAKEN TOGETHER, THIS REARCH FORMS AN OVERWHELMG SCHOLARLY NSENS, BASED ON OVER THREE S OF PEER-REVIEWED REARCH, THAT HAVG A GAY OR LBIAN PARENT DO NOT HARM CHILDREN,” THE COLUMBIA REARCHERS WROTE.THAT LEAV FOUR ARTICL THAT ARGUE CHILDREN FACE MORE RISKS WH OPPOSE-SEX PARENTS THAN THEY DO WH SAME-SEX PARENTS. HOWEVER, THE COLUMBIA REARCHERS SAY THE STUDI ARE PROBLEMATIC BEE ONLY A MORY OF THE CHILD SUBJECTS GREW UP WH SAME-SEX PARENTS. MOST SUBJECTS OF THE FOUR STUDI GREW UP WH OPPOSE-SEX PARENTS BUT ONE OF THE PARENTS EVENTUALLY ME OUT AS GAY OR LBIAN, OFTEN G FAY BREAKUP OR TURMOIL.SOME OF THIS REARCH NFLAT FAY POSN AND STCTURE WH FAY STABILY AND HISTORY, SAID GARY GAT, AN EXPERT LGBT MOGRAPHY AT THE UNIVERSY OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGEL. SOCIAL SCIENCE REARCH SUGGTS MARRIAGE — AND NOT NECSARILY THE GENR MAKP OF THAT MARRIAGE — IS ASSOCIATED WH STABILY.“IN OTHER WORDS, STUDI THAT PARE CHILDREN LONG-TERM TACT FAI WH SAME-SEX UPLE PARENTS SHOW THAT THEY GENERALLY DO AS WELL AS KIDS LONG-TERM TACT FAI WH DIFFERENT-SEX PARENTS,” GAT SAID.SKIPPG THE PARTY PRIEB ALSO SAID SUNDAY THAT HE IS NFINT THE CLEVELAND RNC WILL BE A SUCCS, EVEN WHOUT A BH ATTENDANCE.FORMER FLORIDA GOV. JEB BH AND FORMER PRINTS GEE W. AND GEE H.W. BH ALL CLED TO PARTICIPATE OR ATTEND THE 2016 NOMATG NVENTN. NBC’S TODD OFFERED THE CISN OF THE BH FAY TO SPURN THE 2016 NVENTN AS EVINCE THAT THIS YEAR’S EVENT WILL BE A LTLE DIFFERENT. “YOU’RE NOT SHOWSG THE BT PARTS OF YOUR PARTY,” TODD SAID TO PRIEB, ADDG “ IS UNUAL NOT TO HAVE A BH AT THE NVENTN.”PRIEB RPOND: “IT DIDN’T HAPPEN FOUR YEARS AGO” AT THE 2012 RNC TAMPA. PRIEB ADD AFTER SOME BACK-AND-FORTH THAT THAT “THERE WAS NO PRINT BH” AT THE RNC 2008. BOTH CLAIMS ARE WRONG. THE STATEMENT RAT FALSE.IT’S BEEN NEARLY EIGHT YEARS SCE A BH HAS HELD NATNAL ELECTED OFFICE, BUT THE FAY HAS MATAED A ROLE AT THE NOMATG NVENTN. SCE 1980, A BH HAS SPOKEN AT EVERY REPUBLIN NVENTN —OFTEN AS THE VICE PRINTIAL OR PRINTIAL NOMEE. THAT CLUS THE 2012 NVENTN TAMPA, WHERE MT ROMNEY WAS NOMATED.JEB BH ADDRSED LEGAT AT THE NVENTN. HE TOUTED HIS LOVE FOR HIS BROTHER, CRICIZED PRINT OBAMA’S RERD, AND DISCSED CHILDREN AND TN. “IF WE WANT TO NTUE TO BE THE GREATT NATN ON THE PLA, WE MT GIVE OUR KIDS WHAT WE PROMISED THEM—AN EQUAL OPPORTUNY,” HE SAID. “THAT STARTS THE CLASSROOM. IT STARTS OUR MUNI. IT STARTS WHERE YOU LIVE AND STARTS WH NOMATG MT ROMNEY THE NEXT PRINT OF THE UNED STAT.”PRIEB ALSO WAS WRONG THAT THERE WAS NO “PRINT BH” AT THE 2008 RNC ST. PL, MN.PRINT GEE W. BH ADDRSED NVENTN LEGAT LIVE OM THE WHE HOE. BH TOLD NVENTN LEGAT THAT HE REMAED WASHGTON TO OVERSEE REVERY EFFORTS RELATED TO HURRINE GTAV.BH PRAISED GOP NOMEE ARIZONA SEN. JOHN MCCA. “HE IS READY TO LEAD THIS NATN,” BH SAID. “FROM THE DAY OF HIS MISSNG, JOHN MCCA WAS A RPECTED NAVAL OFFICER WHO MA CISNS ON WHICH THE LIV OF OTHERS PEND.”FIRST LADY LRA BH SPOKE LIVE OM THE NVENTN, WHICH ALSO CLUD APPEARANC BY FORMER PRINT GEE H.W. BH AND FORMER FIRST LADY BARBARA BH, VIO OM THE EVENT SHOWS.THE EARLIT NVENTN WE ULD FD WHOUT A BH SPEAKG WAS 1976, WHERE GERALD FORD WAS SELECTED AS THE REPUBLIN NOMEE. READ THE FULL FACT-CHECKS AT .
- GOP CHAIRMAN URG TOLERANCE FOR VIEWS ON GAY MARRIAGE
- RECE PRIEB VS. KEN MEHLMAN ON GAY MARRIAGE
FORMER TOP GAY REPUBLIN SAYS RECE PRIEB WAS TOO SRED TO MEET WH HIM
WASHINGTON -- Republin Natnal Commtee Chairman Rece Prieb refed to publicly meet wh a proment gay Republin group for fear of a social nservative backlash, one of the lears of that group alleg a new book -- a charge the RNC LaSalvia, a founr of the now funct anizatn GOProud, wr No Hope: Why I Left The GOP (And You Should Too) of a seri of slights om top Republin officials that led him to do precisely what his book’s subtle of the slights are cidly mean-spired.
Rearchers at Columbia Law School reviewed scholarly works about the well-beg of children livg wh gay or lbian parents spanng the past three s. The studi exame topics such as adolcent well-beg, child physil and emotnal health, fay functng, and the effect of homophobic stigmatizatn.
RNC CHAIRMAN RECE PRIEB IS WRONG ON CHILDREN RAISED BY GAY PARENTSTE OR FALSE?RECE PRIEB SAID THE ‘FACTS SAY’ KIDS RAISED BY SAME-SEX PARENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE DRAWN TO DGS OR CRIME. THAT’S UPDATED FEB. 11, 2019 3:39PM EST / PUBLISHED JUL. 17, 2016 9:00PM EDT PHOTO ILLTRATN BY THE DAILY BEASTBY LREN CARROLL, NEELH MOORTHY, AND ALLISON GRAVREPUBLIN NATNAL COMMTEE CHAIRMAN RECE PRIEB FEND THE PLATFORM OF HIS PARTY AND PRUMPTIVE PRINTIAL NOMEE DONALD TMP ON THE TALK SHOW CIRCU SUNDAY.BUT DID PRIEB HAVE HIS FACTS RIGHT?PRIEB APPEARED ON CNN, ABC, NBC, AND FOX ON THE EVE OF THE REPUBLIN NATNAL CONVENTN CLEVELAND TO DISCS THE STATE OF THE PRINTIAL RACE AND THE STATE OF HIS POLIL PARTY. GOP PLATFORMPRIEB FEND THE 2016 REPUBLIN PARTY PLATFORM AN TERVIEW WH NBC’S CHUCK TODD.WHILE THE PLATFORM ISN’T YET S FAL FORM, MANY OBSERVERS HAVE SAID THE DOCUMENT SO FAR LEANS TO THE RIGHT ON SOCIAL ISSU. TODD ASKED PRIEB ABOUT THE PLATFORM’S POSN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. THE MEET THE PRS ANCHOR REFERENCED ONE DRAFT THAT SAYS “THE DATA, THE FACTS LEAD TO AN PABLE NCLN THAT EVERY CHILD SERV A MARRIED MOM AND DAD”—BASED ON CLAIMS THAT CHILDREN RAISED A TRADNAL HOEHOLD ARE HEALTHIER AND LS LIKELY TO ENGAGE CRIME AND SUBSTANCE ABE. “IT’S IMPLYG SOMEHOW THAT CHILDREN OF SAME-SEX UPL ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE ADDICTS, TO ENGAGE CRIME,” TODD SAID. “DO YOU MEAN TO HAVE IMPLY THAT?” PRIEB REPLIED THAT ’S POSSIBLE FOR CHILDREN OF SAME-SEX PARENTS AND SGLE PARENTS TO LEAD SUCCSFUL LIV, BUT THE BT SCENAR IS FOR CHILDREN TO GROW UP A HOEHOLD WH A MOTHER AND A FATHER.“THE BT SCENAR FOR KIDS IS A LOVG MOM AND DAD,” PRIEB SAID. “HOWEVER, DON’T MEAN AT ALL THAT SGLE PARENTS OR SAME-SEX PARENTS, THAT ANY PARENT AMERI N’T LOVE A CHILD, N’T RAISE A CHILD, AND THAT CHILD N’T BE SUCCSFUL AND LOVED. IT DON’T MEAN THAT. IT JT MEANS WHAT THE FACTS SAY.”DO “THE FACTS SAY” THAT “THE BT SCENAR FOR KIDS IS A LOVG MOM AND DAD” AS OPPOSED TO SAME-SEX PARENTS?NO. THAT CLAIM RAT FALSE.IF ANYTHG, THE SCHOLARLY NSENS IS THAT CHILDREN N FARE JT AS WELL SAME-SEX HOEHOLDS. “THE NSENS IS OVERWHELMG THAT THOSE CHILDREN DO VERY WELL THOSE [SAME-SEX PARENT] FAI, AND THERE’S NO HARM OR BAD NSEQUENCE THAT OCCURS BEE OF THOSE PARENTS NOT BEG OPPOSE SEX,” SAID ELLEN PERR, A PROFSOR AT THE TUFTS UNIVERSY SCHOOL OF MEDICE WHO HAS REARCHED THIS QUTN.REARCHERS AT COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL REVIEWED SCHOLARLY WORKS ABOUT THE WELL-BEG OF CHILDREN LIVG WH GAY OR LBIAN PARENTS SPANNG THE PAST THREE S. THE REARCHERS FOUND 78 RELEVANT ARTICL, AND OF THOSE, 74 NCLUD THAT CHILDREN OF SAME-SEX PARENTS FARE NO WORSE THAN CHILDREN OF OPPOSE-SEX PARENTS. SIX OF THE ARTICL WERE PUBLISHED THE LAST THREE YEARS. THE STUDI EXAME TOPICS SUCH AS ADOLCENT WELL-BEG, CHILD PHYSIL AND EMOTNAL HEALTH, FAY FUNCTNG, AND THE EFFECT OF HOMOPHOBIC STIGMATIZATN.“TAKEN TOGETHER, THIS REARCH FORMS AN OVERWHELMG SCHOLARLY NSENS, BASED ON OVER THREE S OF PEER-REVIEWED REARCH, THAT HAVG A GAY OR LBIAN PARENT DO NOT HARM CHILDREN,” THE COLUMBIA REARCHERS WROTE.THAT LEAV FOUR ARTICL THAT ARGUE CHILDREN FACE MORE RISKS WH OPPOSE-SEX PARENTS THAN THEY DO WH SAME-SEX PARENTS. HOWEVER, THE COLUMBIA REARCHERS SAY THE STUDI ARE PROBLEMATIC BEE ONLY A MORY OF THE CHILD SUBJECTS GREW UP WH SAME-SEX PARENTS. MOST SUBJECTS OF THE FOUR STUDI GREW UP WH OPPOSE-SEX PARENTS BUT ONE OF THE PARENTS EVENTUALLY ME OUT AS GAY OR LBIAN, OFTEN G FAY BREAKUP OR TURMOIL.SOME OF THIS REARCH NFLAT FAY POSN AND STCTURE WH FAY STABILY AND HISTORY, SAID GARY GAT, AN EXPERT LGBT MOGRAPHY AT THE UNIVERSY OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGEL. SOCIAL SCIENCE REARCH SUGGTS MARRIAGE — AND NOT NECSARILY THE GENR MAKP OF THAT MARRIAGE — IS ASSOCIATED WH STABILY.“IN OTHER WORDS, STUDI THAT PARE CHILDREN LONG-TERM TACT FAI WH SAME-SEX UPLE PARENTS SHOW THAT THEY GENERALLY DO AS WELL AS KIDS LONG-TERM TACT FAI WH DIFFERENT-SEX PARENTS,” GAT SAID.SKIPPG THE PARTY PRIEB ALSO SAID SUNDAY THAT HE IS NFINT THE CLEVELAND RNC WILL BE A SUCCS, EVEN WHOUT A BH ATTENDANCE.FORMER FLORIDA GOV. JEB BH AND FORMER PRINTS GEE W. AND GEE H.W. BH ALL CLED TO PARTICIPATE OR ATTEND THE 2016 NOMATG NVENTN. NBC’S TODD OFFERED THE CISN OF THE BH FAY TO SPURN THE 2016 NVENTN AS EVINCE THAT THIS YEAR’S EVENT WILL BE A LTLE DIFFERENT. “YOU’RE NOT SHOWSG THE BT PARTS OF YOUR PARTY,” TODD SAID TO PRIEB, ADDG “ IS UNUAL NOT TO HAVE A BH AT THE NVENTN.”PRIEB RPOND: “IT DIDN’T HAPPEN FOUR YEARS AGO” AT THE 2012 RNC TAMPA. PRIEB ADD AFTER SOME BACK-AND-FORTH THAT THAT “THERE WAS NO PRINT BH” AT THE RNC 2008. BOTH CLAIMS ARE WRONG. THE STATEMENT RAT FALSE.IT’S BEEN NEARLY EIGHT YEARS SCE A BH HAS HELD NATNAL ELECTED OFFICE, BUT THE FAY HAS MATAED A ROLE AT THE NOMATG NVENTN. SCE 1980, A BH HAS SPOKEN AT EVERY REPUBLIN NVENTN —OFTEN AS THE VICE PRINTIAL OR PRINTIAL NOMEE. THAT CLUS THE 2012 NVENTN TAMPA, WHERE MT ROMNEY WAS NOMATED.JEB BH ADDRSED LEGAT AT THE NVENTN. HE TOUTED HIS LOVE FOR HIS BROTHER, CRICIZED PRINT OBAMA’S RERD, AND DISCSED CHILDREN AND TN. “IF WE WANT TO NTUE TO BE THE GREATT NATN ON THE PLA, WE MT GIVE OUR KIDS WHAT WE PROMISED THEM—AN EQUAL OPPORTUNY,” HE SAID. “THAT STARTS THE CLASSROOM. IT STARTS OUR MUNI. IT STARTS WHERE YOU LIVE AND STARTS WH NOMATG MT ROMNEY THE NEXT PRINT OF THE UNED STAT.”PRIEB ALSO WAS WRONG THAT THERE WAS NO “PRINT BH” AT THE 2008 RNC ST. PL, MN.PRINT GEE W. BH ADDRSED NVENTN LEGAT LIVE OM THE WHE HOE. BH TOLD NVENTN LEGAT THAT HE REMAED WASHGTON TO OVERSEE REVERY EFFORTS RELATED TO HURRINE GTAV.BH PRAISED GOP NOMEE ARIZONA SEN. JOHN MCCA. “HE IS READY TO LEAD THIS NATN,” BH SAID. “FROM THE DAY OF HIS MISSNG, JOHN MCCA WAS A RPECTED NAVAL OFFICER WHO MA CISNS ON WHICH THE LIV OF OTHERS PEND.”FIRST LADY LRA BH SPOKE LIVE OM THE NVENTN, WHICH ALSO CLUD APPEARANC BY FORMER PRINT GEE H.W. BH AND FORMER FIRST LADY BARBARA BH, VIO OM THE EVENT SHOWS.THE EARLIT NVENTN WE ULD FD WHOUT A BH SPEAKG WAS 1976, WHERE GERALD FORD WAS SELECTED AS THE REPUBLIN NOMEE. READ THE FULL FACT-CHECKS AT .
“Taken together, this rearch forms an overwhelmg scholarly nsens, based on over three s of peer-reviewed rearch, that havg a gay or lbian parent do not harm children, ” the Columbia rearchers leav four articl that argue children face more risks wh oppose-sex parents than they do wh same-sex parents. Most subjects of the four studi grew up wh oppose-sex parents but one of the parents eventually me out as gay or lbian, often g fay breakup or of this rearch nflat fay posn and stcture wh fay stabily and history, said Gary Gat, an expert LGBT mography at the Universy of California Los Angel. Republin chairman Rece Prieb says GOP should wele those who support the right of gays to GOP platform urg laws to fe marriage as only between one man and one woman.
"But don't mean that we divi and subtract people om our party" who support the right of gay men and lbians to marry. Rob Portman, on Mt Romney's short list last year as a potential nng mate, announced this month he had changed his view to endorse same-sex marriage after learng his son was gay. I thk those are foundatnal issu that aren’t gog anywhere, but what I have said -- which I don’t thk should be ntroversy at all, and I would thk that Christians and pastors and everyone between should agree -- that our prcipl have to be draped the ncepts of grace, love and rpect and that’s not posn opposg gay marriage is nsistent wh most Republins' views.
Per an April NBC/WSJ poll, jt 27 percent of Republins said they favored same-sex marriage (vers 73 percent of Democrats, 54 percent of pennts, and 53 percent of all rponnts) appears at odds wh the RNC's "Growth & Opportuny Project" post-electn report, which argued that the GOP uldn't be seen among younger voters as "totally tolerant" on issu like gay rights.
GOP CHAIRMAN URG TOLERANCE FOR VIEWS ON GAY MARRIAGE
Already, there is a generatnal difference wh the nservative movement about issu volvg the treatment and the rights of gays — and for many younger voters, the issu are a gateway to whether the Party is a place they want to be. Meanwhile, an terview published today on Andrew Sullivan's blog, former RNC Chair Ken Mehlman -- who me out as gay a few year ago and served as party chair om 2005-2007 -- explaed how he talks to Republins on the subject of same-sex me, what [marriage] is about is two dividuals who love each other who want to spend their liv mtg to each another; they take re of each other when they are sick or old. Rece Prieb, chairman of the Republin Natnal Commtee, is nyg his party is anti-LGBT, claimg s platform don't embrace "ex-gay" therapy and sayg gay bsman Peter Thiel is wele the an terview wh the Associated Prs leadg up to the Republin nventn, which opens Monday Cleveland, Prieb claimed that a ntroversial plank the draft platform, to be voted on at the nventn, is an endorsement of "ex-gay" or "nversn" therapy, signed to turn LGBT people straight and plank, phed by Fay Rearch Council print and nventn legate Tony Perks, reads, "We support the right of parents to terme the proper treatment or therapy, for their mor children.
" Several stat and at least one cy have barred licensed therapists om subjectg mors to "ex-gay" therapy, and the plank appears to be aimed at such bans. Prieb: Portman Ma ‘Big Inroads’ wh Gay Communy | Natnal Review. The report, lled the "Growth and Opportuny Project, " lays out an extensive plan the RNC believ will lead the party to victory wh an extensive outreach to women, Ain-Amerin, Asian, Hispanic and gay voters.
RECE PRIEB VS. KEN MEHLMAN ON GAY MARRIAGE
Prieb noted that the party's polici are fundamentally sound but require a softer tone and broar outreach, clu a stronger ph for Ain-Amerin, Lato, Asian, women and gay voters. "We need to mpaign among Hispanic, black, Asian, and gay Amerins and monstrate we re about them, too.