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cLxcNi">Culture</span></a></div></div></div><h1 data-ttid="ContentHearHed" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearHed-NCyCC iUEiRd jPOabC BjYFU">The Grand Return of Comics Legend Alan Moore</h1></div><div class="ContentHearAccredatn-lfctVB etVsnJ ntent-hear__accredatn" data-ttid="ContentHearAccredatn"><div class="ContentHearDek-bIqFFZ eASNBN">His work fed the medium—<em>Watchmen</em>, <em>V for Ventta</em>, <em>The League of Extraordary Gentlemen</em>—before he abandoned tratn. In a rare terview, the thor discs his new llectn of fictn, Illumatns, the fate of his work Hollywood, and how feels to be misunrstood.</div><div class="ContentHearByle-kmPyCa emiglw"><div class="ContentHearByleContent-dpPmNn DRFq"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl ContentHearByl-cZqgyJ bHLeKI"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gtxxjM byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fhQbnq dzFUnH eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/mh-ler">M.H. Miller</a></span></span></p><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gtxxjM byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">Photography by </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fhQbnq dzFUnH eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/josh-hight">Josh Hight</a></span></span></p></div><time data-ttid="ContentHearPublishDate" dateTime="2022-10-18T11:04:23-04:00" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearPublishDate-eIBicG iUEiRd ivrQAn cZpOSL">October 18, 2022</time></div></div><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--standard ContentHearAccredatnSocialIns-jorO fPzfaa ntent-hear__social-share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div></div><div class="ContentHearLeadAsset-hGbumP diZztE lead-asset ContentHearLeadAssetWrapper-hfXHEc Grck lead-asset--width-fullbleed" data-ttid="ContentHearLeadAsset"><figure class="ContentHearLeadAssetContent-kOfYSG dRGWbI"><div class="ContentHearLeadAssetContentMedia-bLEIpi jjhWdS lead-asset__ntent__photo"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz DXYGT"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa ContentHearRponsiveAsset-bREgIb hONbnm rponsive-image"><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w, 1920w, 2240w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Image may nta Face Human Person Beard and Alan Moore" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></picture></div></div></span></div></figure></div></div><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR oEIBz persistent-asi persistent-asi--align-left" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jNgrSF sticky-box ContentHearPersistentAsi-fsnAmQ dFzKzm"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--has-background ContentHearSocialIns-jzJiyg ctaZl social-ins--share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></hear></div><div data-attribute-verso-pattern="article-body" class="ArticlePageContentBackGround-cNiFNN kJkLmH article-body__ntent"><div class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP eRxRjL"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eSsnKa"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Alan Moore, who is perhaps</strong> the greatt ic book wrer to ever live, do not give many terviews. “No offense, but I am uned to publicizg my own work,” he told me om his home Northampton, England’s East Midlands, durg one of two Zoom terviews September, around the time of Queen Elizabeth II’s ath. He was drsed, both tim, a red sweater, and ocsnally dragged on an enormo rolled cigarette that smoked up the screen. Behd the uch he was stg on were reproductns of the Enochian Tabl, texts om a 16th century form of magic found by the occultist John Dee. “Whereby,” Moore said, “he was nvced that he was pable of speakg to a range of enti that he had to scribe as angels, bee scribg them as anythg else would have probably got him burned.”</p><p>When Moore ma his but the Amerin ics dtry the early ’80s, takg over the ltle-read <em>Swamp Thg</em> for DC Comics, he stantly ma the medium more lerary and exprsive, jectg wh postmorn techniqu that offered a self-awarens and serns that prevly didn’t exist the realm of superhero. Over the followg years, he created some of the most endurg works to ever grace the ics form: <em>Miracleman</em>, which took an obscure Brish knock-off of DC’s Capta Marvel om the 1950s, and transposed him, nvcgly, onto Thatcher’s England; <em>Watchmen</em>, a nightmarish parable that imag how a group of masked vigilant would actually functn the real world (not very well, turns out); <em>V for Ventta</em>, about London after a nuclear war has plunged the ernment to outright fascism, and the anarchist revolutn that emerg as a rult (a seri that, among other thgs, popularized the Guy Fawk mask as a ntemporary symbol of dissent); <em>From Hell</em>, a meticuloly rearched acunt of Jack the Ripper and the Whechapel murrs; and the late-perd masterpiec <em>Neonomin</em> and <em>Province</em>, which pos that the Cthulhu Mythos, the universe which H.P. Lovecraft’s horror fictn was set, was not altogether fictnal.</p><p>Moore will likely always be bt remembered for the works, but he has sce abandoned ics. Long before superhero stori beme the bread and butter of Hollywood, stud executiv were explog Moore’s wrg. The 2001 film of <em>From Hell</em>, starrg Johnny Depp, was pecially rid, but Moore purists would argue all adaptatns of his work—cludg the crilly acclaimed, Emmy-wng <em>Watchmen</em> limed seri om HBO, which diverg rather boldly om s source material—are at bt rctive misterpretatns and at worst offensively awful. Not only has Moore had nothg to do wh the adaptatns—he famoly hasn’t watched any of them. It’s no wonr, then, that Moore has been a tirels advote for creators’ rights. After failg to mata ownership of the characters and stori he created for mastream ics publishers (predomantly DC) he’s disowned much of his most beloved material.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>But he remas a prolific thor. His 2016 novel <em>Jesalem</em>, largely set Northampton’s Boroughs neighborhood, where Moore was born and raised and where he’s spent the majory of his life, is over 1,200 pag of shiftg perspectiv, styl, and timeam. It is both a kd of smic tobgraphy and, takg spiratn om William Burroughs, an attempt by Moore to wre his way around ath. A llectn of stori, <em>Illumatns</em>, was released this month, and clus the novel-length “What We Can Know About Thunrman,” a vic satire of the ics dtry, dited to Kev O’Neill, Moore’s llaborator on <em>The League of Extraordary Gentlemen</em>, another classic ic wh a disastro adaptatn (Sean Connery, s star, never acted a feature film aga).</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>The tim Moore has talked to the prs, he has been outspoken, railg agast the absurdi of superhero fandom and the rapacns of the ics dtry. “When I first protted havg my tellectual properti stolen,” Moore says, “the reactn om a lot of the fans was, ‘He’s a crazy, angry guy.’ He’s jt explibly angry about absolutely everythg. He wak up the morng, angry wh his pillow. He eats his breakfast cereal while beg angry wh . He’s angry about everythg, so, therefore, nothg that he seems to be upset about is of any nsequence. This is jt an angry person. Alan Moore says, ‘Get off my lawn.’”</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="uy0rk8"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Talkg to him, I was pleasantly surprised to fd this to be far om the tth. Moore was personable, open, and tensely reasonable, even when talkg about oteric thgs like graven imag—reprentatns of gods as objects of worship. Durg our nversatns he had an almost mystil sense of lm. And he certaly looked wizard-like, wh a shock of long silver hair pulled back tightly behd his shoulrs, and a Merl-style beard extendg down to his mid-torso.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa kFAtaa body ArticlePageBodyGridContaer-jrMoA-d xjuw body__grid-ntaer" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div data-ttid="feature-large-llout" class="CalloutFeatureLargeWrapper-cGjDsT hKapVo"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Face Human Person Beard Alan Moore Advertisement and Poster" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><hr/><p><strong>GQ</strong>***:*** <strong>Were you Northampton durg the whole panmic?</strong></p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="cm9z3l"></div></div><p><em>Alan Moore:</em> I’ve been Northampton forever. I’ve barely been out of this hoe for the entire panmic. Me and Melda [Gebbie, Moore’s wife and llaborator] have been shieldg. I thk panmics are pretty much tailor-ma for wrers. This is how we live, not seeg our iends for months on end, livg a silent room whout any munitns om the outsi world. We’ve been handlg all right, I thk.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>What has kept you Northampton for most of your life?</strong></p><p>Northampton has always been a hotbed of trouble. As far as I unrstand , Northamptonshire was the pot of orig for Hereward the Wake, who is a figure that I grew up readg about. He was a figure jt as big as Kg Arthur or Rob Hood English mythology, wh the exceptn that, of those three characters, Hereward actually existed. He was an anti-Norman terrorist, a kd of Fenland b Lan, who lived out the marsh. He’d ri to Norman settlements, cludg Northampton, burn everythg to the ground wh his tramark cry of “awake, awake!” and then ri off to the treachero bog lands so that anyone who followed him would almost certaly drown. Hereward was a massive pa the ass for the Norman royalty.</p><p>And, over the succeedg centuri, Northampton has always been at the center of all the trouble. I don’t thk that Prcs Diana [who grew up Northampton’s Althorp parish] did Northamptonshire any favors the ey of the Brish tablishment. It’s difficult to fd anybody famo who om Northamptonshire who wasn’t an credible troublemaker, which probably gave me a predisposn towards those kd of sentiments.</p><p>And also, you have to remember that I’m slightly lnal. Northampton first got s charter [ the 11th century] unr Richard the Lnheart on November the 18th, which is actually my birthday. <em>Je suis</em> Northampton. I feel an immense kship wh the town, and wh s flammatory spir. It’s probably ltle wonr that I turned out the way I did.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eltaVW"><p>“All of that material that is owned by the var ic pani, I have personally disowned. It’s jt too paful.”</p></div></asi><p><strong>At what pot did you start readg ics?</strong></p><p>I thk that the Boroughs, illeracy was still a stigma. There were a lot of people who uldn’t read or wre. My mother probably only read one or two books the urse of her life, but she uld read. She didn’t enjoy readg. Except for the novelizatn of <em>The Sound of Mic</em>, which she’d been to see eight tim. She’d taken me wh her on three of those ocsns. Probably child abe, you know.</p><p>She was not a well-read woman. But she loved words. She loved long and difficult words bee there was a sense that the are words that are actually only meant for better-off people, and we had stolen them. You uld jt see the light her face when she would say, “Oh, Alan. Why do you have to be so obstrepero?”</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="2yj9ke"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>I had Brish children’s ics, which I was readg, I now realize, durg their goln age. Brish ics were about Ameri, which was a land as exotic to me as Narnia. They were jt somethg that all workg-class hom had. We had a lol market lled Sid’s Market Stall. It sold magaz—men’s magaz, on wh sweatg GIs beg whipped by Nazi women wearg swastika armbands their unrwear, which ma me thk the Amerin experience of the war seemed to have been very different om what my dad told me about. They’d have those hangg on bulldog clips beyond the reach of children. And then they’d have this array of Amerin ics that had been brought over as ballast. By the age of eight I had graduated to <em>Mad Magaze</em>, so I knew who John F. Kennedy was, and Adlai Stevenson. Nika Khshchev. I found out an awful lot about Ameri.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>There are worse ways to learn about Ameri.</strong></p><p>There probably are. I suppose the ics were a very big thg my life until the age of about 14, 15. I had absorbed an awful lot of pletely potls and unnecsary lore about superhero, all of the excsive, sane, meangls tails of ntuy. I have a very sticky memory. Not so much the days, but back my pomp, I remembered everythg. It was very embarrassg when, at a ics nventn that I attend after beg a profsnal, they had a trivia quiz that they persuad me to take part . And, horrifygly, I knew the secret inty of Chameleon Boy [a mor member of DC’s Legn of Superhero]. That was when I realized that, no, you gotta back away om this. It’s sort of an illns.</p><p><strong>In</strong> <em><strong>Illumatns</strong></em><strong>, you have a funny moment at the begng of the story “What We Can Know About Thunrman,” where a group of ics wrers are havg this paed argument a der about the stak of rewrg a character’s orig story and msg wh the ntuy. Did you actually have arguments like that?</strong></p><p>“What We Can Know About Thunrman,” I thk that is probably my ncludg statement on the ics dtry. A lot of is lir ventn, but an awful lot of is pretty much what happened. I’ve exaggerated much ls than you’d thk.</p><p>The ics dtry was que a shock. I thk I was sufferg om the illn that: I’m really good and if they put me on a book, will start to crease sal, que rapidly. I assume that they are at least cent enough bs people to unrstand that they will be makg much more prof out of me and my work if they treat me fairly than if they surrenr to their basic impuls and steal all of my sh. And that of urse turned out to be a hopels romantic fantasy. Almost as soon as I was the door, I was on my way out aga. That perd of ics that most people remember me for was actually, what, a five-year perd? Between 1982 and 1987. Somethg like that. And 35 years ago. All of that stuff, all of that material that is owned by the var ic pani, I have personally disowned. It’s jt too paful.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa kFAtaa body ArticlePageBodyGridContaer-jrMoA-d xjuw body__grid-ntaer" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn idXRxI llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Face Human Person Beard and Fger" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Is paful artistilly or are you jt trated by the bs si of thgs?</strong></p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="wh6tns"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>You n’t separate them om each other. Artistilly, ’s paful bee of the immense amount of work—and I hope, visn—that I put to those early works. I was tryg as bt I uld to remake the ics dtry and to a certa, lser extent, the ics medium, to the thg that I wanted to be. I was troducg the ias that I thought might be beneficial to the medium and take to new areas. Artistilly, to have those works taken away om me and perhaps largely misunrstood?</p><p>It seemed to me that what people were takg away om works like <em>Watchmen</em> or <em>V For Ventta</em> wasn’t the storytellg techniqu, which to me seemed to be the most important part of . It was stead this greater leeway wh vlence and wh sexual referenc. Ts and nards.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>When I did thgs like <em>Marvelman</em> [now known, for a variety of legal issu, as <em>Miracleman</em>] and <em>Watchmen</em>, they were criqu of the superhero genre. They were tryg to show that any attempt to realize the figur any kd of realistic ntext will always be grotque and nightmarish. But that don’t seem to be the msage that people took om this. They seemed to thk, uh, yeah, dark, prsg superhero are, like, ol.</p><p>The creatn of Rorschach [a masked vigilante who is one of <em>Watchmen</em>’s ma characters]—I was thkg, well, everybody will unrstand that this is satiril. I’m makg this guy a mumblg psychopath who clearly smells, who liv on ld baked beans, who has no iends bee of his abhorrent personaly. I hadn’t realized that so many people the dience would fd such a figure admirable. I was told—this was probably 5 or 10 years ago—that apparently <em>Watchmen</em> has que a followg amongst the right wg Ameri. In fact, do you know the far-right webse, Stormont?</p><p><strong>Sure.</strong> <em><strong>[Edor's note: Stormont is a neo-Nazi ter fom that the Souther Poverty Law Center has scribed as “the first major hate se on the ter.”]</strong></em></p><p>They did a reproductn of the fascist hymn that I wrote for <em>V for Ventta</em>. And they said that, “Yeah, this person is supposed to be the exact oppose of polilly, but havg read the betiful words, I thk that he mt secretly be one of , si.” I thk I unrstand fascism, and I know what kd of hymns people like that would probably like. But if this stuff n be so fundamentally misunrstood, do make you wonr what the pot of dog was.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eltaVW"><p>“It seemed to me that what people were takg away om works like <em>Watchmen</em> or <em>V For Ventta</em> wasn’t the storytellg techniqu, which to me seemed to be the most important part of . It was stead this greater leeway wh vlence and wh sexual referenc. Ts and nards.”</p></div></asi><p><strong>I assume you still haven’t seen any of the adaptatns of your work.</strong></p><p>I would be the last person to want to s through any adaptatns of my work. From what I’ve heard of them, would be enormoly punishg. It would be torturo, and for no very good reason. There was an cint—probably a ncludg cint, for me. I received a bulky parcel, through Feral Exprs, that arrived here my sedate ltle livg room. It turned out to nta a powr blue barbecue apron wh a hydrogen symbol on the ont.</p><p>And a ank letter om the shownner of the <em>Watchmen</em> televisn adaptatn, which I hadn’t heard was a thg at that pot. But the letter, I thk opened wh, “Dear Mr. Moore, I am one of the bastards currently stroyg <em>Watchmen</em>.” That wasn’t the bt opener. It went on through a lot of, what seemed to me to be, nrotic ramblg. “Can you at least tell how to pronounce ‘Ozymandias’?” [Another of the vigilante characters <em>Watchmen</em>.] I got back wh a very abpt and probably hostile reply tellg him that I’d thought that Warner Brothers were aware that they, nor any of their employe, shouldn’t ntact me aga for any reason. I explaed that I had disowned the work qutn, and partly that was bee the film dtry and the ics dtry seemed to have created thgs that had nothg to do wh my work, but which would be associated wh the public md. I said, “Look, this is embarrassg to me. I don’t want anythg to do wh you or your show. Please don’t bother me aga.”</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="9g8hl5"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>When I saw the televisn dtry awards that the <em>Watchmen</em> televisn show had apparently won, I thought, “Oh, god, perhaps a large part of the public, this is what they thk <em>Watchmen</em> was?” They thk that was a dark, grty, dystopian superhero anchise that was somethg to do wh whe supremacism. Did they not unrstand <em>Watchmen</em>? <em>Watchmen</em> was nearly 40 years ago and was relatively simple parison wh a lot of my later work. What are the chanc that they broadly unrstood anythg sce? This tends to make me feel ls than fond of those works. They mean a b ls my heart.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Was dog somethg like</strong> <em><strong>Neonomin</strong></em> <strong>or</strong> <em><strong>Province</strong></em> <strong> any way a reactn to some of the thgs you’re talkg about? A reactn agast superhero?</strong></p><p>Wh the “Lovecraft” books, that was strange. They grew almost like a culture a Petri dish. I was tryg to divorce Lovecraft and his ias om the archaic settg that they ually prent . Lovecraft was kd of anti-morn and certa stori weren’t really signed for the morn world. Certaly not this morn world. <em>[Edor’s note: Lovecraft, who set many of his stori imagary towns across New England, is known for both his fluential ntributns to the horror and fantasy genr and the racism that tats his work.]</em> <em>Neonomin</em> was probably one of the nastit thgs that I’ve ever done.</p><p><strong>I thk ’s the most disturbg.</strong></p><p>Thank you. Bee that was what I wanted. Let’s do somethg that is not jt a horror ic. Let’s do somethg that is genuely horrific. Not “This is a ol horror story,” but, “I’m horrified.” Wh <em>Province</em>, I ma the central character gay and Jewish, jt to problematize the relatnship wh Lovecraft, who was notorly antisemic and possibly a nflicted homophobe.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa kFAtaa body ArticlePageBodyGridContaer-jrMoA-d xjuw body__grid-ntaer" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div data-ttid="feature-large-llout" class="CalloutFeatureLargeWrapper-cGjDsT hKapVo"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Alan Moore Fger and Face" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Do you intify wh Lovecraft at all?</strong></p><p>It’s a b difficult to intify wh Lovecraft. I n appreciate Lovecraft, spe his racism, his antisemism, his—not misogyny, but his perhaps disfort wh women. I n see that some ways he was not the outsir that he’s often picted as. I thk that Lovecraft is, some ways, an ultimate sir. He was exactly a man of his tim. He was almost a barometer of Amerin dread.</p><p>And on top of that, Lovecraft had a smologil perspective that he was an avid follower of science magaz. He had kept up wh Este and appeared to unrstand Este. He did his bt. But this led to more fear. Bee he actually unrstood how ty and signifint we were this boundls universe and that the universe was erned, not by God—bee Lovecraft was an atheist—but by the bld chaotic forc of physics that did not know that we were here. That didn’t re about . They weren’t good. They weren’t evil. They would jt annihilate whout ever knowg that we’d existed. And the forc beme Lovecraft’s pantheon of unpronounceable elr gods. He was kd of givg a shape and a name, even if was a particularly tentacled shape, to the bld forc of physics that he thought erned human existence.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="xaej3m"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>A lot of your work als some way wh the afterlife, wh what happens to a person when they die. Would you ll yourself an atheist, or is more plited than that?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-5 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>It’s probably more plited than that, but, y, I’m an atheist. No, there wasn’t some guy the clouds who created everythg. However, the pagan ia of gods, and the way they were regard the classil world, that terts me. The ia that the gods were senc of whatever their particular field of enavor was, that Herm is the sence of language and telligence and also theft. I n accept gods on that level, that they are pure ias that may have bee, through their plexy, self-aware, or which have bee so plex that we perceive them as beg self-aware, whether they are or not. So ’s perhaps a heavily qualified theism, not que atheism.</p><p>As for what happens when we die, my book <em>Jesalem</em>, I wanted to give everybody an alternative way to thk about life and ath. It was somethg that I had duced myself after absorbg Este, who had said this is, at least, a four-dimensnal universe, wh the three dimensns that we’re faiar wh and a further dimensn, which is not time, but, if I’m unrstandg rrectly, time is the way that human begs perceive the fourth dimensn. That we are actually what Este referred to as a block universe. This means that the universe of space-time is a lossal solid that is eternal and is unchangg. I thk this is the view of nventnal physics. There’s of urse people who would ntt that view, but that’s normal physics, and Este’s theory has so far stood up to the most rigoro ttg. In the s sce his ath, nobody has disproved .</p><p>So, if we are a block universe that is eternal and unchangg, that means that everythg wh that universe is also eternal and unchangg. It means that we are not really movg through our liv. Time isn’t there. Instead, our nscns is movg through a solid medium of space-time. The bt way to image this is as a reel of film. Each of those ltle imag on the reel of film are fixed and unchangg. There is no movement them. However, when we apply the beam of a projector to them, or the beam of nscns the analogy that I’m makg, then Charlie Chapl do his funny walk and sav the girl and feats the baddie. You’ve got actn. You’ve got moraly. You’ve got narrative. You’ve got events. From static imag.</p><p>And if that is the se, if we are an unchangg and eternal solid, then that means we’re forever, and that all of the past is still there and is still happeng, back the past. And the future is already happeng. That we are already ad. We are not yet born. That this is the nature of time, and that if everythg the past is still there, that clus our liv and the liv of everybody else, and every moment of nscns wh those liv. So seems to me that, basilly, we are livg an eternal recurrence, that when your nscns reach s ncludg pot at your ath, has nowhere to go but back to the begng of that reel of film. And will always seem like the first time, even though don’t really make sense to talk about a first time. That seems to me to offer a ratnal way around the ncept of ath. I thk I’ve ma a pretty good stab at .</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="atx85a"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>In the Brish children’s ics that we started out talkg about, there always ed to be a ee gift. They would always have a bag of sherbet or some sort of paper noise maker or somethg like that. I’ve always liked ee gifts. So wh <em>Jesalem</em>, I thought, “I want to give everybody the bt ee gift ever.” You know? A get out of jail rd for ath. At least to the bt of my abily that’s what I thk I did there.</p><p><strong>I feel like the timg of this terview kd of mak this next qutn unavoidable: What do you thk of the Brish monarchy?</strong></p><p>Well, that’s openg a huge n of ttal worms, there. We had our monarchy imposed on by force the 11th century, and I n bear a gdge for at least, you know, a thoand years or so. The royal fay are somethg that flutters across the newspapers or the televisn screens at tervals, generally when there’s some horrifyg sndal that has epted. Otherwise, they’re like an old buildg. It’s a part of the English landspe, but nobody thks about very much. For some reason, there was a huge amount of sympathy for the Queen. She’d been around sce most of were born. Her ronatn was the same year that I was born. I thk a lot of Amerins thk that we are all botted wh the Queen, the royal fay, which for most ordary people is simply not te.</p><p><strong>When was the first time you vised Ameri?</strong></p><p>I’ve vised Ameri twice. I didn’t fd myself very fortable. Possibly I don’t feel fortable anywhere. I always ed to warn people agast makg the mistake of tryg to map a untry that you’re unfaiar wh onto a untry that you are faiar wh, bee that is somethg we all tend to do, and generally leads to tremendo errors. I myself fell prey to that bee when I went over to Ameri the first time, I was thkg, “Okay, so the Republins, they’re probably more like the nservativ, which means that the Democrats are probably more like the Labor Party.” So, Republins right-wg, Democrats left-wg. That was the nstctn I had my head. This was spe the fact that an awful lot of the Amerins that I spoke to nsired themselv to be left-wg. They sound, to my ears, and to the ears of some of my English iends, to be sentially center-right. Sce 2016, specifilly, has stck me that probably the Democrats are more the nservativ, and the Republins would seem to be closer to actual fascists. I thk there’s a worryg fascist unrcurrent Ameri. I myself have stopped travelg. I’ve not been out of the untry sce 1989, somethg like that.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-6 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Oh, really?</strong></p><p>I don’t have a passport anymore. Everythg is here, as far as I’m ncerned.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa kFAtaa body ArticlePageBodyGridContaer-jrMoA-d xjuw body__grid-ntaer" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn idXRxI llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Water Nature Outdoors and Face" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>Do you have a first memory of Northampton, growg up?</strong></p><p>We had a ltle terraced hoe down oppose the railway statn this immensely old and ndown area lled the Boroughs. It had origally been the whole of the town. But the town had expand over the centuri, and the Boroughs had more or ls been left to y. By the time you get around to the First World War, the Boroughs is the receptacle for the poort people the town. It is shunned by rpectable people. It was the lovelit muny that you uld image. It was undoubtedly a shabby neighborhood, but was drenched history. You’d thk that might be more celebrated, but like I say, Northampton has been on somebody’s sh list sce the 11th century.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="kgsnuh"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Bee of the soot om the railway yards, which vered everythg, we ed to get a very betiful flower lled rosebay willow herb that would thrive upon dirt and soot. A betiful ltle flower, sort of pkish silver. And bee we were lookg directly wt, every night, the sun would set behd the rail yards, and we would get beams of light through our ont room wdow. And we had a ty staed-glass wdow dividg the ont room om the livg room. Sometim, around about tea time, around about sunset on a summer’s eveng, you’d get a betiful ltle splash of lor over the dty rad wirels that was set on a ltle shelf halfway up the wall. It don’t sound like much, but a ltle splash of transcennt lor the very dark, very cramped ltle ho. That is perhaps one of my earlit memori.</p><p>I’ve moved out of the Boroughs. I now live a uple of away om , probably. Maybe half an hour’s walk. It actually ma me. It was full of extraordary characters that didn’t exist anywhere else. My paternal grandmother was what was lled a athmonger. In poor neighborhoods, where people uldn’t afford eher midwiv or unrtakers, you would have a workg-class woman—always a woman—who would attend to both for probably sixpence or a shillg. One that I heard of, Mrs. Gibbs, had two aprons. There was a black apron that she wore if she was gog to attend to the layg-out of a recently-ceased person. Her other apron had betiful be and butterfli embroired around s hem; this was the apron she wore for births. I’m sure that they mt’ve had such people other neighborhoods, but athmonger is, I thk, termology unique to Northampton. Knowg Northampton, I image they lled them athmongers bee llg them by their old name would’ve perhaps gotten them burned. Like, they were wch. Wise women, herbalists, all of that. People who attend to medil suatns, like a birth or a ath. Fantastic, mythil characters. I’ve taken an enormo amount of spiratn om them.</p><p><strong>You’ve long been associated wh magic and the occult. Can you talk to me about how that is part of your life?</strong></p><p>I’ve ma magic a central part of my ordary life. It’s how I see thgs. It’s how I view the world. It’s the language that I ame realy and has an immense fluence upon all of my thkg, and all of my actns. I still have a very healthy philosophil relatnship wh my send-century Roman snake-puppet, Glyn, who I have e to believe is probably a lot more signifint than I origally assumed him to be.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-7 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>How is that?</strong></p><p>I cid, when I was dnk on my 40th birthday, that I was gog to bee a magician. Then, when I sobered up the next day, I realized that I was gog to have to go through wh that, no matter how ridiculo ma me look. The first person that I sought advice om was my iend and mentor of many years, Steve Moore, who tght me how to wre ics, whom I’d known sce I was 14 or 15, and who was my greatt iend. He was already volved a strange metaphysil relatnship wh the Greek moon godss, Selene. His relatnship wh that godss was probably the biggt romantic relatnship of his life. And that isn’t necsarily a tragic thg. Bee was a real relatnship. Havg experienced at close hand, was as good a relatnship as many physil, real-world relatnships that I’ve wnsed.</p></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="8426fn"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK eRggVV grid grid-margs grid-ems-0 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bDFJoo"><div class="GridItem-buujkM kHPPIF grid--em"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Steve was my first port of ll. I said, “All right, now I’ve cid that I'm a magician, what do I do? How do you do magic? How do you bee a magician?” And he said, “The first thg to do is to eher choose a god, or let a god choose you, and then e that god, that imagary beg as a gui to the imagary terrory that you’re gog to be enterg to.” It was sometime after that where Steve happened to show me a book of Roman antiqui, which clud, on the ont ver, the statue of Glyn. Glyn was the last-created Roman god. And I thought that this was the most betiful creature that I’d ever seen. There was somethg absurd about , and there was also somethg of credible majty and bety. This snake wh long blond hair. I’m still not sure whether I chose the god or whether the god chose me.</p><p>Steve said once you’ve got your god, ’s not a bad ia to do a graven image. That was what he’d done wh Selene. Sce Steve’s ath, we’ve got his graven image of Selene.</p><p><strong>Oh, yeah?</strong></p><p>Upstairs, the bedroom.</p><p><em><strong>M.H. 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He was drsed, both tim, a red sweater, and ocsnally dragged on an enormo rolled cigarette that smoked up the screen. Behd the <a href=">uch</a> he was stg on were reproductns of the Enochian Tabl, texts om a 16th-century form of magic found by the occultist John Dee. “Whereby,” Moore said, “he was nvced that he was pable of speakg to a range of enti that he had to scribe as angels, bee scribg them as anythg else would have probably got him burned.”</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>When Moore ma his but the Amerin ics dtry the early ’80s, takg over the ltle-read <em>Swamp Thg</em> for DC Comics, he stantly ma the medium more lerary and exprsive, jectg wh postmorn techniqu that offered a self-awarens and serns that prevly didn’t exist the realm of superhero. Over the followg years, he created some of the most endurg works to ever grace the ics form: <em>Miracleman</em>, which took an obscure Brish knock-off of DC’s Capta Marvel om the 1950s, and transposed him, nvcgly, onto Thatcher’s England; <em>Watchmen</em>, a nightmarish parable that imag how a group of masked vigilant would actually functn the real world (not very well, turns out); <em>V for Ventta</em>, about London after a nuclear war has plunged the ernment to outright fascism, and the anarchist revolutn that emerg as a rult (a seri that, among other thgs, popularized the Guy Fawk mask as a ntemporary symbol of dissent); <em>From Hell</em>, a meticuloly rearched acunt of Jack the Ripper and the Whechapel murrs; and the late-perd masterpiec <em>Neonomin</em> and <em>Province</em>, which pos that the Cthulhu Mythos, the universe which H.P. Lovecraft’s horror fictn was set, was not altogether fictnal.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Moore will likely always be bt remembered for the works, but he has sce abandoned ics. Long before superhero stori beme the bread and butter of Hollywood, stud executiv were explog Moore’s wrg. The 2001 film of <em>From Hell</em>, starrg Johnny Depp, was pecially rid, but Moore purists would argue all adaptatns of his work—cludg the crilly acclaimed, Emmy-wng <em>Watchmen</em> limed seri om HBO, which diverg rather boldly om s source material—are at bt rctive misterpretatns and at worst offensively awful. Not only has Moore had nothg to do wh the adaptatns—he famoly hasn’t watched any of them. It’s no wonr, then, that Moore has been a tirels advote for creators’ rights. After failg to mata ownership of the characters and stori he created for mastream ics publishers (predomantly DC) he’s disowned much of his most beloved material.</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="uvrobe"></div></div><p>But he remas a prolific thor. His 2016 novel <em>Jesalem</em>, largely set Northampton’s Boroughs neighborhood, where Moore was born and raised and where he’s spent the majory of his life, is over 1,200 pag of shiftg perspectiv, styl, and timeam. It is both a kd of smic tobgraphy and, takg spiratn om William Burroughs, an attempt by Moore to wre his way around ath. A llectn of stori, <em>Illumatns</em>, was released this month, and clus the novel-length “What We Can Know About Thunrman,” a vic satire of the ics dtry, dited to Kev O’Neill, Moore’s llaborator on <em>The League of Extraordary Gentlemen</em>, another classic ic wh a disastro adaptatn (Sean Connery, s star, never acted a feature film aga).</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="wgspug"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="083yi9"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>The tim Moore has talked to the prs, he has been outspoken, railg agast the absurdi of superhero fandom and the rapacns of the ics dtry. “When I first protted havg my tellectual properti stolen,” Moore says, “the reactn om a lot of the fans was, ‘He’s a crazy, angry guy.’ He’s jt explibly angry about absolutely everythg. He wak up the morng, angry wh his pillow. He eats his breakfast cereal while beg angry wh . He’s angry about everythg, so, therefore, nothg that he seems to be upset about is of any nsequence. This is jt an angry person. Alan Moore says, ‘Get off my lawn.’”</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Talkg to him, I was pleasantly surprised to fd this to be far om the tth. Moore was personable, open, and tensely reasonable, even when talkg about oteric thgs like graven imag—reprentatns of gods as objects of worship. Durg our nversatns he had an almost mystil sense of lm. And he certaly looked wizard-like, wh a shock of long silver hair pulled back tightly behd his shoulrs, and a Merl-style beard extendg down to his mid-torso.</p><div data-ttid="feature-large-llout" class="CalloutFeatureLargeWrapper-cGjDsT hKapVo"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Face Human Person Beard Alan Moore Advertisement and Poster" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div><hr/><p><strong>GQ</strong><em><strong>:</strong></em> <strong>Were you Northampton durg the whole panmic?</strong></p><p><em>Alan Moore:</em> I’ve been Northampton forever. I’ve barely been out of this hoe for the entire panmic. Me and Melda [Gebbie, Moore’s wife and llaborator] have been shieldg. I thk panmics are pretty much tailor-ma for wrers. This is how we live, not seeg our iends for months on end, livg a silent room whout any munitns om the outsi world. We’ve been handlg all right, I thk.</p><p><strong>What has kept you Northampton for most of your life?</strong></p><p>Northampton has always been a hotbed of trouble. As far as I unrstand , Northamptonshire was the pot of orig for Hereward the Wake, who is a figure that I grew up readg about. He was a figure jt as big as Kg Arthur or Rob Hood English mythology, wh the exceptn that, of those three characters, Hereward actually existed. He was an anti-Norman terrorist, a kd of Fenland b Lan, who lived out the marsh. He’d ri to Norman settlements, cludg Northampton, burn everythg to the ground wh his tramark cry of “awake, awake!” and then ri off to the treachero bog lands so that anyone who followed him would almost certaly drown. Hereward was a massive pa the ass for the Norman royalty.</p><p>And, over the succeedg centuri, Northampton has always been at the center of all the trouble. I don’t thk that Prcs Diana [who grew up Northampton’s Althorp parish] did Northamptonshire any favors the ey of the Brish tablishment. It’s difficult to fd anybody famo who om Northamptonshire who wasn’t an credible troublemaker, which probably gave me a predisposn towards those kd of sentiments.</p><p>And also, you have to remember that I’m slightly lnal. Northampton first got s charter [ the 11th century] unr Richard the Lnheart on November the 18th, which is actually my birthday. <em>Je suis</em> Northampton. I feel an immense kship wh the town, and wh s flammatory spir. It’s probably ltle wonr that I turned out the way I did.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eltaVW"><p>“All of that material that is owned by the var ic pani, I have personally disowned. 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jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Jack Kg</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw dacLSS ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="rtgyvc"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs joBAUg"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="pu8bub"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>I thk that the Boroughs, illeracy was still a stigma. There were a lot of people who uldn’t read or wre. My mother probably only read one or two books the urse of her life, but she uld read. She didn’t enjoy readg. Except for the novelizatn of <em>The Sound of Mic</em>, which she’d been to see eight tim. She’d taken me wh her on three of those ocsns. Probably child abe, you know.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>She was not a well-read woman. But she loved words. She loved long and difficult words bee there was a sense that the are words that are actually only meant for better-off people, and we had stolen them. You uld jt see the light her face when she would say, “Oh, Alan. Why do you have to be so obstrepero?”</p><p>I had Brish children’s ics, which I was readg, I now realize, durg their goln age. Brish ics were about Ameri, which was a land as exotic to me as Narnia. They were jt somethg that all workg-class hom had. We had a lol market lled Sid’s Market Stall. It sold magaz—men’s magaz, on wh sweatg GIs beg whipped by Nazi women wearg swastika armbands their unrwear, which ma me thk the Amerin experience of the war seemed to have been very different om what my dad told me about. They’d have those hangg on bulldog clips beyond the reach of children. And then they’d have this array of Amerin ics that had been brought over as ballast. By the age of eight I had graduated to <em>Mad Magaze</em>, so I knew who John F. Kennedy was, and Adlai Stevenson. Nika Khshchev. I found out an awful lot about Ameri.</p><p><strong>There are worse ways to learn about Ameri.</strong></p><p>There probably are. I suppose the ics were a very big thg my life until the age of about 14, 15. I had absorbed an awful lot of pletely potls and unnecsary lore about superhero, all of the excsive, sane, meangls tails of ntuy. I have a very sticky memory. Not so much the days, but back my pomp, I remembered everythg. It was very embarrassg when, at a ics nventn that I attend after beg a profsnal, they had a trivia quiz that they persuad me to take part . And, horrifygly, I knew the secret inty of Chameleon Boy [a mor member of DC’s Legn of Superhero]. That was when I realized that, no, you gotta back away om this. It’s sort of an illns.</p><p><strong>In</strong> <em><strong>Illumatns</strong></em><strong>, you have a funny moment at the begng of the story “What We Can Know About Thunrman,” where a group of ics wrers are havg this paed argument a der about the stak of rewrg a character’s orig story and msg wh the ntuy. Did you actually have arguments like that?</strong></p><p>“What We Can Know About Thunrman,” I thk that is probably my ncludg statement on the ics dtry. A lot of is lir ventn, but an awful lot of is pretty much what happened. 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ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="4r4cm"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>The ics dtry was que a shock. I thk I was sufferg om the illn that: I’m really good and if they put me on a book, will start to crease sal, que rapidly. I assume that they are at least cent enough bs people to unrstand that they will be makg much more prof out of me and my work if they treat me fairly than if they surrenr to their basic impuls and steal all of my sh. And that of urse turned out to be a hopels romantic fantasy. Almost as soon as I was the door, I was on my way out aga. That perd of ics that most people remember me for was actually, what, a five-year perd? Between 1982 and 1987. Somethg like that. And 35 years ago. All of that stuff, all of that material that is owned by the var ic pani, I have personally disowned. It’s jt too paful.</p><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn idXRxI llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Face Human Person Beard and Fger" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div><p><strong>Is paful artistilly or are you jt trated by the bs si of thgs?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>You n’t separate them om each other. Artistilly, ’s paful bee of the immense amount of work—and I hope, visn—that I put to those early works. I was tryg as bt I uld to remake the ics dtry and to a certa, lser extent, the ics medium, to the thg that I wanted to be. I was troducg the ias that I thought might be beneficial to the medium and take to new areas. Artistilly, to have those works taken away om me and perhaps largely misunrstood?</p><p>It seemed to me that what people were takg away om works like <em>Watchmen</em> or <em>V For Ventta</em> wasn’t the storytellg techniqu, which to me seemed to be the most important part of . It was stead this greater leeway wh vlence and wh sexual referenc. Ts and nards.</p><p>When I did thgs like <em>Marvelman</em> [now known, for a variety of legal issu, as <em>Miracleman</em>] and <em>Watchmen</em>, they were criqu of the superhero genre. They were tryg to show that any attempt to realize the figur any kd of realistic ntext will always be grotque and nightmarish. But that don’t seem to be the msage that people took om this. They seemed to thk, uh, yeah, dark, prsg superhero are, like, ol.</p><p>The creatn of Rorschach [a masked vigilante who is one of <em>Watchmen</em>’s ma characters]—I was thkg, well, everybody will unrstand that this is satiril. I’m makg this guy a mumblg psychopath who clearly smells, who liv on ld baked beans, who has no iends bee of his abhorrent personaly. I hadn’t realized that so many people the dience would fd such a figure admirable. I was told—this was probably 5 or 10 years ago—that apparently <em>Watchmen</em> has que a followg amongst the right wg Ameri. 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class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="fzi448"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>They did a reproductn of the fascist hymn that I wrote for <em>V for Ventta</em>. And they said that, “Yeah, this person is supposed to be the exact oppose of polilly, but havg read the betiful words, I thk that he mt secretly be one of , si.” I thk I unrstand fascism, and I know what kd of hymns people like that would probably like. But if this stuff n be so fundamentally misunrstood, do make you wonr what the pot of dog was.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eltaVW"><p>“It seemed to me that what people were takg away om works like <em>Watchmen</em> or <em>V For Ventta</em> wasn’t the storytellg techniqu, which to me seemed to be the most important part of . It was stead this greater leeway wh vlence and wh sexual referenc. Ts and nards.”</p></div></asi><p><strong>I assume you still haven’t seen any of the adaptatns of your work.</strong></p><p>I would be the last person to want to s through any adaptatns of my work. From what I’ve heard of them, would be enormoly punishg. It would be torturo, and for no very good reason. There was an cint—probably a ncludg cint, for me. I received a bulky parcel, through Feral Exprs, that arrived here my sedate ltle livg room. It turned out to nta a powr blue barbecue apron wh a hydrogen symbol on the ont.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>And a ank letter om the shownner of the <em>Watchmen</em> televisn adaptatn, which I hadn’t heard was a thg at that pot. But the letter, I thk opened wh, “Dear Mr. Moore, I am one of the bastards currently stroyg <em>Watchmen</em>.” That wasn’t the bt opener. It went on through a lot of, what seemed to me to be, nrotic ramblg. “Can you at least tell how to pronounce ‘Ozymandias’?” [Another of the vigilante characters <em>Watchmen</em>.] I got back wh a very abpt and probably hostile reply tellg him that I’d thought that Warner Brothers were aware that they, nor any of their employe, shouldn’t ntact me aga for any reason. I explaed that I had disowned the work qutn, and partly that was bee the film dtry and the ics dtry seemed to have created thgs that had nothg to do wh my work, but which would be associated wh the public md. I said, “Look, this is embarrassg to me. I don’t want anythg to do wh you or your show. Please don’t bother me aga.”</p><p>When I saw the televisn dtry awards that the <em>Watchmen</em> televisn show had apparently won, I thought, “Oh, god, perhaps a large part of the public, this is what they thk <em>Watchmen</em> was?” They thk that was a dark, grty, dystopian superhero anchise that was somethg to do wh whe supremacism. Did they not unrstand <em>Watchmen</em>? <em>Watchmen</em> was nearly 40 years ago and was relatively simple parison wh a lot of my later work. What are the chanc that they broadly unrstood anythg sce? This tends to make me feel ls than fond of those works. They mean a b ls my heart.</p><p><strong>Was dog somethg like</strong> <em><strong>Neonomin</strong></em> <strong>or</strong> <em><strong>Province</strong></em> <strong> any way a reactn to some of the thgs you’re talkg about? A reactn agast superhero?</strong></p><p>Wh the “Lovecraft” books, that was strange. They grew almost like a culture a Petri dish. I was tryg to divorce Lovecraft and his ias om the archaic settg that they ually prent . Lovecraft was kd of anti-morn and certa stori weren’t really signed for the morn world. 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class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">The 10 bt Dad Movi ever ma, ranked</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Jack Kg</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw dacLSS ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="os7rz"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs joBAUg"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="zj4738"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>I thk ’s the most disturbg.</strong></p><p>Thank you. Bee that was what I wanted. Let’s do somethg that is not jt a horror ic. Let’s do somethg that is genuely horrific. Not “This is a ol horror story,” but, “I’m horrified.” Wh <em>Province</em>, I ma the central character gay and Jewish, jt to problematize the relatnship wh Lovecraft, who was notorly antisemic and possibly a nflicted homophobe.</p><div data-ttid="feature-large-llout" class="CalloutFeatureLargeWrapper-cGjDsT hKapVo"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Alan Moore Fger and Face" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div><p><strong>Do you intify wh Lovecraft at all?</strong></p><p>It’s a b difficult to intify wh Lovecraft. I n appreciate Lovecraft, spe his racism, his antisemism, his—not misogyny, but his perhaps disfort wh women. I n see that some ways he was not the outsir that he’s often picted as. I thk that Lovecraft is, some ways, an ultimate sir. He was exactly a man of his tim. He was almost a barometer of Amerin dread.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-5 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>And on top of that, Lovecraft had a smologil perspective that he was an avid follower of science magaz. He had kept up wh Este and appeared to unrstand Este. He did his bt. But this led to more fear. Bee he actually unrstood how ty and signifint we were this boundls universe and that the universe was erned, not by God—bee Lovecraft was an atheist—but by the bld chaotic forc of physics that did not know that we were here. That didn’t re about . They weren’t good. They weren’t evil. They would jt annihilate whout ever knowg that we’d existed. And the forc beme Lovecraft’s pantheon of unpronounceable elr gods. He was kd of givg a shape and a name, even if was a particularly tentacled shape, to the bld forc of physics that he thought erned human existence.</p><p><strong>A lot of your work als some way wh the afterlife, wh what happens to a person when they die. Would you ll yourself an atheist, or is more plited than that?</strong></p><p>It’s probably more plited than that, but, y, I’m an atheist. No, there wasn’t some guy the clouds who created everythg. However, the pagan ia of gods, and the way they were regard the classil world, that terts me. The ia that the gods were senc of whatever their particular field of enavor was, that Herm is the sence of language and telligence and also theft. I n accept gods on that level, that they are pure ias that may have bee, through their plexy, self-aware, or which have bee so plex that we perceive them as beg self-aware, whether they are or not. So ’s perhaps a heavily qualified theism, not que atheism.</p><p>As for what happens when we die, my book <em>Jesalem</em>, I wanted to give everybody an alternative way to thk about life and ath. It was somethg that I had duced myself after absorbg Este, who had said this is, at least, a four-dimensnal universe, wh the three dimensns that we’re faiar wh and a further dimensn, which is not time, but, if I’m unrstandg rrectly, time is the way that human begs perceive the fourth dimensn. That we are actually what Este referred to as a block universe. This means that the universe of space-time is a lossal solid that is eternal and is unchangg. I thk this is the view of nventnal physics. There’s of urse people who would ntt that view, but that’s normal physics, and Este’s theory has so far stood up to the most rigoro ttg. 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class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Jack Kg</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw dacLSS ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="0pxgtq"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs joBAUg"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="smk8"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>So, if we are a block universe that is eternal and unchangg, that means that everythg wh that universe is also eternal and unchangg. It means that we are not really movg through our liv. Time isn’t there. Instead, our nscns is movg through a solid medium of space-time. The bt way to image this is as a reel of film. Each of those ltle imag on the reel of film are fixed and unchangg. There is no movement them. However, when we apply the beam of a projector to them, or the beam of nscns the analogy that I’m makg, then Charlie Chapl do his funny walk and sav the girl and feats the baddie. You’ve got actn. You’ve got moraly. You’ve got narrative. You’ve got events. From static imag.</p><p>And if that is the se, if we are an unchangg and eternal solid, then that means we’re forever, and that all of the past is still there and is still happeng, back the past. And the future is already happeng. That we are already ad. We are not yet born. That this is the nature of time, and that if everythg the past is still there, that clus our liv and the liv of everybody else, and every moment of nscns wh those liv. So seems to me that, basilly, we are livg an eternal recurrence, that when your nscns reach s ncludg pot at your ath, has nowhere to go but back to the begng of that reel of film. And will always seem like the first time, even though don’t really make sense to talk about a first time. That seems to me to offer a ratnal way around the ncept of ath. I thk I’ve ma a pretty good stab at .</p><p>In the Brish children’s ics that we started out talkg about, there always ed to be a ee gift. They would always have a bag of sherbet or some sort of paper noise maker or somethg like that. I’ve always liked ee gifts. So wh <em>Jesalem</em>, I thought, “I want to give everybody the bt ee gift ever.” You know? A get out of jail rd for ath. At least to the bt of my abily that’s what I thk I did there.</p><p><strong>I feel like the timg of this terview kd of mak this next qutn unavoidable: What do you thk of the Brish monarchy?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-6 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Well, that’s openg a huge n of ttal worms, there. We had our monarchy imposed on by force the 11th century, and I n bear a gdge for at least, you know, a thoand years or so. The royal fay are somethg that flutters across the newspapers or the televisn screens at tervals, generally when there’s some horrifyg sndal that has epted. Otherwise, they’re like an old buildg. It’s a part of the English landspe, but nobody thks about very much. For some reason, there was a huge amount of sympathy for the Queen. She’d been around sce most of were born. Her ronatn was the same year that I was born. 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I didn’t fd myself very fortable. Possibly I don’t feel fortable anywhere. I always ed to warn people agast makg the mistake of tryg to map a untry that you’re unfaiar wh onto a untry that you are faiar wh, bee that is somethg we all tend to do, and generally leads to tremendo errors. I myself fell prey to that bee when I went over to Ameri the first time, I was thkg, “Okay, so the Republins, they’re probably more like the nservativ, which means that the Democrats are probably more like the Labor Party.” So, Republins right-wg, Democrats left-wg. That was the nstctn I had my head. This was spe the fact that an awful lot of the Amerins that I spoke to nsired themselv to be left-wg. They sound, to my ears, and to the ears of some of my English iends, to be sentially center-right. Sce 2016, specifilly, has stck me that probably the Democrats are more the nservativ, and the Republins would seem to be closer to actual fascists. I thk there’s a worryg fascist unrcurrent Ameri. I myself have stopped travelg. I’ve not been out of the untry sce 1989, somethg like that.</p><p><strong>Oh, really?</strong></p><p>I don’t have a passport anymore. Everythg is here, as far as I’m ncerned.</p><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn idXRxI llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Water Nature Outdoors and Face" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div></figure></div><p><strong>Do you have a first memory of Northampton, growg up?</strong></p><p>We had a ltle terraced hoe down oppose the railway statn this immensely old and ndown area lled the Boroughs. It had origally been the whole of the town. But the town had expand over the centuri, and the Boroughs had more or ls been left to y. By the time you get around to the First World War, the Boroughs is the receptacle for the poort people the town. It is shunned by rpectable people. It was the lovelit muny that you uld image. It was undoubtedly a shabby neighborhood, but was drenched history. You’d thk that might be more celebrated, but like I say, Northampton has been on somebody’s sh list sce the 11th century.</p><p>Bee of the soot om the railway yards, which vered everythg, we ed to get a very betiful flower lled rosebay willow herb that would thrive upon dirt and soot. A betiful ltle flower, sort of pkish silver. And bee we were lookg directly wt, every night, the sun would set behd the rail yards, and we would get beams of light through our ont room wdow. And we had a ty staed-glass wdow dividg the ont room om the livg room. Sometim, around about tea time, around about sunset on a summer’s eveng, you’d get a betiful ltle splash of lor over the dty rad wirels that was set on a ltle shelf halfway up the wall. It don’t sound like much, but a ltle splash of transcennt lor the very dark, very cramped ltle ho. 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ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="pien"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa edvONh body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>I’ve moved out of the Boroughs. I now live a uple of away om , probably. Maybe half an hour’s walk. It actually ma me. It was full of extraordary characters that didn’t exist anywhere else. My paternal grandmother was what was lled a athmonger. In poor neighborhoods, where people uldn’t afford eher midwiv or unrtakers, you would have a workg-class woman—always a woman—who would attend to both for probably sixpence or a shillg. One that I heard of, Mrs. Gibbs, had two aprons. There was a black apron that she wore if she was gog to attend to the layg-out of a recently-ceased person. Her other apron had betiful be and butterfli embroired around s hem; this was the apron she wore for births. I’m sure that they mt’ve had such people other neighborhoods, but athmonger is, I thk, termology unique to Northampton. Knowg Northampton, I image they lled them athmongers bee llg them by their old name would’ve perhaps gotten them burned. Like, they were wch. Wise women, herbalists, all of that. People who attend to medil suatns, like a birth or a ath. Fantastic, mythil characters. I’ve taken an enormo amount of spiratn om them.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-7 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>You’ve long been associated wh magic and the occult. Can you talk to me about how that is part of your life?</strong></p><p>I’ve ma magic a central part of my ordary life. It’s how I see thgs. It’s how I view the world. It’s the language that I ame realy and has an immense fluence upon all of my thkg, and all of my actns. I still have a very healthy philosophil relatnship wh my send-century Roman snake-puppet, Glyn, who I have e to believe is probably a lot more signifint than I origally assumed him to be.</p><p><strong>How is that?</strong></p><p>I cid, when I was dnk on my 40th birthday, that I was gog to bee a magician. Then, when I sobered up the next day, I realized that I was gog to have to go through wh that, no matter how ridiculo ma me look. The first person that I sought advice om was my iend and mentor of many years, Steve Moore, who tght me how to wre ics, whom I’d known sce I was 14 or 15, and who was my greatt iend. He was already volved a strange metaphysil relatnship wh the Greek moon godss, Selene. His relatnship wh that godss was probably the biggt romantic relatnship of his life. And that isn’t necsarily a tragic thg. Bee was a real relatnship. Havg experienced at close hand, was as good a relatnship as many physil, real-world relatnships that I’ve wnsed.</p><p>Steve was my first port of ll. I said, “All right, now I’ve cid that I'm a magician, what do I do? How do you do magic? How do you bee a magician?” And he said, “The first thg to do is to eher choose a god, or let a god choose you, and then e that god, that imagary beg as a gui to the imagary terrory that you’re gog to be enterg to.” It was sometime after that where Steve happened to show me a book of Roman antiqui, which clud, on the ont ver, the statue of Glyn. Glyn was the last-created Roman god. And I thought that this was the most betiful creature that I’d ever seen. There was somethg absurd about , and there was also somethg of credible majty and bety. This snake wh long blond hair. I’m still not sure whether I chose the god or whether the god chose me.</p><p>Steve said once you’ve got your god, ’s not a bad ia to do a graven image. That was what he’d done wh Selene. 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summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Culture</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM fFPekr summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-3" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ ejPNRQ summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">10 historil bpics to watch after <em>Oppenheimer</em></div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Lucy Ford</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cPRGie ad ad--read-more"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--read-more" data-no-id="to3r"></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff cTOQrv summary-em summary-em--has-mobile-borr summary-em--ARTICLE summary-em--no-in summary-em--text-align-left summary-em--layout-placement-text-below-sktop-only summary-em--layout-posn-image-left summary-em--layout-proportns-33-66 summary-em--si-by-si-align-top summary-em--si-by-si-image-right-mobile-false summary-em--standard SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cPRGie" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb USLvL summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-4" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Atomic bomb movi ranked, om least to most existentially terrifyg" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl eFAulD summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Culture</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM fFPekr summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-4" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ ejPNRQ summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Atomic bomb movi ranked, om least to most existentially terrifyg</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Jack Kg</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff cTOQrv summary-em summary-em--has-mobile-borr summary-em--ARTICLE summary-em--no-in summary-em--text-align-left summary-em--layout-placement-text-below-sktop-only summary-em--layout-posn-image-left summary-em--layout-proportns-33-66 summary-em--si-by-si-align-top summary-em--si-by-si-image-right-mobile-false summary-em--standard SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cPRGie" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb USLvL summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-5" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Granta said I was one of the futur of Brish novel wrg. It didn't feel like that" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl eFAulD summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Books</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM fFPekr summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-5" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ ejPNRQ summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Granta said I was one of the futur of Brish novel wrg. It didn't feel like that</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Derek Owu</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff cTOQrv summary-em summary-em--has-mobile-borr summary-em--ARTICLE summary-em--no-in summary-em--text-align-left summary-em--layout-placement-text-below-sktop-only summary-em--layout-posn-image-left summary-em--layout-proportns-33-66 summary-em--si-by-si-align-top summary-em--si-by-si-image-right-mobile-false summary-em--standard SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cPRGie" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb USLvL summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-6" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Fashn was already livg on the ‘Pla of the Bass’" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl eFAulD summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Fashn</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM fFPekr summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-6" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ ejPNRQ summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Fashn was already livg on the ‘Pla of the Bass’</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Murray Clark </span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff cTOQrv summary-em summary-em--has-mobile-borr summary-em--ARTICLE summary-em--no-in summary-em--text-align-left summary-em--layout-placement-text-below-sktop-only summary-em--layout-posn-image-left summary-em--layout-proportns-33-66 summary-em--si-by-si-align-top summary-em--si-by-si-image-right-mobile-false summary-em--standard SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cPRGie" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb USLvL summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-7" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="Can Msi make the MLS “the bt league the world”? The ex-pros reckon so" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl eFAulD summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Sport</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM fFPekr summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-7" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ ejPNRQ summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">Can Msi make the MLS “the bt league the world”? The ex-pros reckon so</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Robert Leedham</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="SummaryItemWrapper-iwvBff cTOQrv summary-em summary-em--has-mobile-borr summary-em--ARTICLE summary-em--no-in summary-em--text-align-left summary-em--layout-placement-text-below-sktop-only summary-em--layout-posn-image-left summary-em--layout-proportns-33-66 summary-em--si-by-si-align-top summary-em--si-by-si-image-right-mobile-false summary-em--standard SummaryCollectnGridSummaryItem-WColm cPRGie" role="button" tabx="0"><div class="SummaryItemAssetContaer-gwhFFH VOyg summary-em__asset-ntaer"><a class="SummaryItemImageLk-dshqxb USLvL summary-em__image-lk summary-em-trackg__image-lk" href=" aria-hidn="te" tabx="-1" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-image-8" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" target="_self"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image"><div data-tt="aspect-rat-ntaer" class="AspectRatContaer-bJHpJz hlQxkn"><div class="aspect-rat--overlay-ntaer"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa SummaryItemRponsiveAsset-hjGIGg egpoQR summary-em__image rponsive-image"><noscript><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet="" siz="100vw"/><img alt="The bt onle clothg stor if you're unable (or jt unwillg) to head to town" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></noscript></picture></div></div></span></a></div><div class="SummaryItemContent-eiDYMl eFAulD summary-em__ntent"><div class="RubricWrapper-dKmCNX kpuNXj bric SummaryItemRubric-dguGKN lapGFj summary-em__bric"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Fashn</span></div><a class="SummaryItemHedLk-civM fFPekr summary-em-trackg__hed-lk summary-em__hed-lk" data-ponent-type="recirc-river" data-recirc-id="em-hed-8" data-recirc-pattern="summary-em" href=" target="_self"><div data-ttid="ClampWrapper" class="ClampWrapper-kZxfkB hTTNGO clamp SummaryItemHedBase-hiFYpQ ejPNRQ summary-em__hed"><div class="ClampContent-hilPkr jVhSBH"><div class="SummaryItemHedTag-TWblf dipRRs" data-ttid="SummaryItemHed">The bt onle clothg stor if you're unable (or jt unwillg) to head to town</div></div></div></a><div class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY jbnRem summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH bfGBQB byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd dlWgVJ gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Adam Chng</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="SummaryCollectnGridToActnWrapper-gnReGN eGayfk"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--footer should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--footer" data-no-id="nxz6yg"></div></div></div></div></div></ma><div class="BasePageMaFooterFiller-hTlZph jSriYf page__ma-footer-filler"></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut 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