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There’s a gentle, quisive tenor to almost everythg he says, and yet, that voice, you fd yourself wantg to do <em>exactly</em> what he says. Like a siren ll or hypnosis, you fd yourself jt wantg to wre down many of his observatns. </p><style data-emotn="css 18vfmjb">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;} em{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-style:alic;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;}</style><p data-no-id="1" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">A nversatn wh <style data-emotn="css umdwtv">{-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-thickns:.0625rem;text-ratn-lor:#FF3A30;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;lor:her;-webk-transn:background 0.4s;transn:background 0.4s;background:lear-gradient(#ffffff, #ffffff 50%, #d5dbe3 50%, #d5dbe3);-webk-background-size:100% 200%;background-size:100% 200%;}{lor:#000000;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;-webk-background-posn:100% 100%;background-posn:100% 100%;}</style><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Lee Pace" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">Lee Pace</a> feels ls like quizzg an actor and more like a ssn wh a philosopher or a life ach. Talkg to him before the lnch of the send season of Apple TV’s sci-fi epic, <em><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Foundatn" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">Foundatn</a></em>, Pace is rockg a gu-ish beard, ntrast wh the chiseled, clean-shaven look he sports as “Brother Day.” In the show, “Brother Day” is one of a seri of clon of an Emperor named Cleon. The clon—all sentially the same man wh different experienc—have led over the Galactic Empire somethg lled “the geic dynasty.” The reign of the Cleons is challenged <em>Foundatn</em> Season One, when a mathematician named Hari Seldon (Jared Harris) prents his theory lled psychohistory, which predicts a g dark age for the Empire, all of which uld be shortened or lengthened, pendg on the cumbent Emperor's actns. Close at Brother Day’s si is Demerzel (Lra Birn), a centuri-old robot and the te power behd the throne. Her inty as a robot is a secret to the rt of the world, and Season Two, the extent of her power seems to eclipse that of Cleon’s.</p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="2" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><style data-emotn="css 1643r8a">{borr:none;marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;paddg:0rem;}</style><asi class="css-1643r8a e6pr2lz5"><style data-emotn="css l3w2xc">{display:le-block;font-weight:normal;marg:0rem;borr-top:0.25rem solid #15263D;paddg-right:1.1rem;paddg-top:0.4375rem;text-transform:lowerse;font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:0.875rem;le-height:1.3;}</style><h6 class="css-l3w2xc e6pr2lz3"><style data-emotn="css 156fvc1">{borr-bottom:0.4375rem solid #FF3A30;borr-right:0.4375rem solid transparent;ntent:'';display:le-block;height:0;marg-right:0.5rem;width:0;}</style><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-156fvc1 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 8lle59">{max-width:lc(100% - 120px - .625rem);}</style><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><style data-emotn="css c4s2gi">{paddg:0rem;marg:0rem;list-style:none;}</style><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><style data-emotn="css 79zw4t">{font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1rem;le-height:2rem;paddg-top:0.625rem;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:0.9375rem;le-height:1.3;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{le-height:1.4;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{le-height:1.4;}} a{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;lor:her;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;} a:hover{lor:#595959;}</style><li class="css-79zw4t e6pr2lz2"><style data-emotn="css 1bn7a5e">{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-wrap:wrap;-ms-flex-wrap:wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-directn:row;-ms-flex-directn:row;flex-directn:row;-webk-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webk-jtify-ntent:flex-start;jtify-ntent:flex-start;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;}</style><a href="/entertament/a37706311/lee-pace-foundatn-ats/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="At Least We Have Lee Pace" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 1l0u1">{marg-right:0.625rem;height:to;}</style><img src="" alt="d" tle="At Least We Have Lee Pace" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">At Least We Have Lee Pace</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-79zw4t e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv/a37906733/foundatn-season-two-apple-tv-pl/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="The 'Foundatn' Season Two Trailer Has Land" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="foundatn" tle="Foundatn" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">The 'Foundatn' Season Two Trailer Has Land</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-79zw4t e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv/a38301344/leah-harvey-foundatn-terview/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Leah Harvey Was Born to Be an Actn Hero" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="leah harvey terview foundatn" tle="Leah Harvey Was Born to Be an Actn Hero" width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Leah Harvey Was Born to Be an Actn Hero</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><p data-no-id="3" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">In <em>Foundatn</em>, all versns of Lee Pace’s Cleon are imposg and mandg. You n’t image him wearg a beard the sci-fi universe he l, but you <em>n</em> image takg orrs om him our world. Beard or no beard, beg around Lee Pace mak you want to bee a disciple of Lee Pace.</p><p data-no-id="4" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">And y, se you were wonrg, he <em>is</em> very tall. Known to lns as Thranduil om <em>The Hobb</em> trilogy or Ronan the Accer the <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="MCU" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">MCU</a>, Pace’s reputatn as an actor is perhaps, unfairly, nnected to his stature. When discsg his height wh <em>Esquire</em>, Pace quips, “I am more than jt 6'5” you know?” It’s te, too, bee although Pace is probably one of the ftt men on televisn right now, what mak him electrifyg to watch is nearly imperceptible, and has ltle to do wh how tall he is. Jt as Cleon b grace wh tentn, Pace nveys telligence and thoughtfulns all thgs. The key difference between himself and his performance is this: whereas Cleon is a kd of “meat puppet” (Pace’s words), the actor who plays him is very fortable his own sk. He’s happy to talk about science fictn novels, and the amb multi-century televisn seri which he plays an sential part. But you n also tell he’d be jt as happy diggg his garn.</p><p data-no-id="5" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><em>Esquire</em> ught up wh Lee Pace over Zoom before the lnch of <em>Foundatn</em> Season 2 to discs how he crafted the latt mad clone emperor Cleon, his feelgs about the fashn on the pla Trantor, and his predictns for the future of masculy — a hundred years om now.</p><style data-emotn="css 18pb4rg">{borr:0;borr-bottom:th solid black;marg:1.875rem 0;clear:both;}</style><hr data-no-id="6" class="css-18pb4rg et3p2gv0" /><p data-no-id="7" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><strong>When the trailer for </strong><strong><em>Foundatn</em></strong><strong> Season 2 dropped, I read that </strong><a href=" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Out lled you" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0"><strong><em><u>Out</u></em></strong><strong><u> lled you</u></strong></a><strong> “Galactic Emperor Daddy.” Are you “Galactic Emperor Daddy?” How do you feel about that label?</strong></p><p data-no-id="8" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">How do I feel about ? [lghs]. I don’t know. It feels nice.I don't really know what to make of . My emotns are unreliable, so I don’t know how I feel. </p><p data-no-id="9" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><strong>How do you mter this thls energy that Cleon has?</strong></p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Well, ’s wrten that way! I suppose I get a chance to dulge that si of myself. I thk he’s a formed creature. Clearly. He’s raised by a robot to take on this role, so he's primive a lot of ways. All the Cleons are primive bee they're ndned to have this ego to believe that they are the Empire. Not like that they le the Empire; they <em>are</em> the Empire. They're the human embodiment of the trillns of people and the many plas that make up this galactic empire. It's an absurd ia. But the creature that's dog is this 25,000 year-old telligent robot, quietly ndng them, seeg them through their cycl of life, one after the next. I mean, she's assistg them, but she's also formg their mds, so there are many different layers. </p><p data-no-id="11" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0"><strong>But the versn you’re playg this year is different…</strong></p><p data-no-id="12" class="css-18vfmjb et3p2gv0">Right. The Cleon I play this season, I fd particularly tertg, bee he’s embracg his dividualy. He don't want to be one of the clon. He rejects the ia of that imperishable permanence. He believ 's a poison and he’s gog to see an end to . So he’s very tentnally wrg his own sty. I fd that parture om the stcture of those clon tertg.</p><style data-emotn="css 8c6v">{posn:absolute;left:-10000px;top:to;width:1px;height:1px;overflow:hidn;}</style><div data-ad-exclu class="css-8c6v ehha8ut0">This ntent is imported om youTube. 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