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I have sex wh life!”</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="l1jdop"></div></div><p>For those who are unfaiar, Merdo was an enormoly popular Puerto Rin telenovela star-turned-TV astrologer, known ternatnally for his ostentat athetic and verve. From the 1970s through the 2000s, Merdo prented dramatic horospe readgs to Spanish speakers worldwi, lightg daily dienc of up to <a href=">120 ln</a> at his peak.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>His rise to stardom began when a TV show host ved Merdo to give a short prentatn on astrology. Merdo’s segment was so wildly popular that he began makg regular appearanc drippg jewels, extravagant p and dramatic makp. But his reer was later marred by years of legal battl wh Bill Bakula, the same manager who once elevated Merdo’s platform the ‘80s and ‘90s. Consirg Bakula as his close iend, Merdo neglected to read a ntract <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">before signg </a>, which nferred all of the rights to his image, name and likens to Bakula. Merdo eventually reclaimed those rights, but his reer unfortunately never rebound. Merdo’s ath last year was mourned by lns worldwi, and <em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em> is an endlsly entertag way to look back at the astrologer’s impact.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Tabsch and -director Crista Costanti, both award-wng documentarians, embarked on <em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em> termed to unver <em>the real</em> Merdo, a queer Latx astrologer who Tabsch says ma him feel okay to be different growg up. What they found was a person whose life and work transcends rote labels and sexualy. Below, Tabsch spoke wh <em>them.</em> about Merdo’s last days, how Water fluenced Tabsch’s own sexualy, the hangg ambigui behd how Walter intified, and more.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Couch and Furnure" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Netflix</span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="hgqmu5"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="i92hh"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>What did Walter mean to you growg up as a queer kid?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Kareem Tabsch:</strong> I’m a Queer Cuban-Lebane child of immigrants, growg up the ‘80s. Our next door neighbors were a queer uple. People never treated them differently <em>explicly</em>, but there was always that fear, like “don’t get too close, you don’t want that bbg off on your kids,” or whatever... That’s how people talked about queerns back then.</p><p>But then you turn on the TV, and all of the sudn, there’s this fabulo person — I’d never seen anyone before who looked like that. He was happy, powerful, and succsful. But most of all, he was <em>loved</em>. My fay loved him.</p><p>I remember he looked the way I felt. He was different. And I knew I was different too.</p><p>Those five-mute appotment viewgs were sacred, quiet tim. And I thought, if my fay uld love him the way they did, then they uld love me.</p><p><strong>Did gettg to know Walter change your perceptn of him?</strong></p><p>We me thkg the Walter we saw on TV was jt a persona. But at one pot, his niece said, “you don’t get . The person you see is who he <em>always</em> is. Sce childhood.” We realized this was 100% te.</p><p>Walter’s grand nephew had a baby durg productn. They brought the baby to the hoe, but Walter refed to meet them until he’d done his hair and makp. He didn’t want the baby to see him not at his bt. He always wanted to look the way he felt si.</p><p>He knew his appearance drew people . And by dog so, he uld teach you. It was subversive and brilliant. We took for granted how brilliant he was. He uld talk to you about history, relign, astrology, film. He and I veloped a film shorthand, quotg talki. Once he said, “I want to be alone...”, a famo Greta Garbo le, and no one else got ! We shared a lot of private jok I really loved.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>One of our cematographers is a <a data-offer-url="(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy." class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy."}" href="(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Babalú-Ayé</a>, a Santeria high prit. And one day, out of nowhere, Walter started talkg to him <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Yoba</a>! He was jt nstantly imprsive that way.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eoUd"><p>"There are a lot of Latx astrologers and wch particular, who for such a long time practiced unrground. Walter helped brg that to the foreont. And some are really embracg that mpy wchs that Walter opened the door for. He spired them to be extra! You know, I feel the word ‘extra’ was vented for Walter."</p></div></asi><p><strong>Do you feel his energy changed his fal days?</strong></p><p>Not at all. Even on his athbed, he was talkg about what he wanted to do next. The book he was wrg, his next trip to Mexi. He was always readg, watchg, wantg to nverse. And he left no space for negativy. That was one of the harst thgs about this film- gettg him to talk about the difficult tim. I mean, he lost lns of dollars. It was a nstant strs for six years! But he didn’t want to dwell on that.</p><p>He was jt so posive and optimistic. And makg <em>you</em> feel better was the most important thg to him. I mean, he loved himself! He had an ego the size of Texas! But he loved you more. 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But was sneaky. I don’t know if this is public, but he was talkg about someone and said: “Sure, I love them! I love them... I love their wife... I love their lover…” And you jt had to lgh.</p><p><strong>You mentned talkg wh him about your sexualy. Can you tell me more about that?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>We wanted him to talk about his sexualy, but he gave the really packaged answers that felt empty. I was trated.</p><p>So I ma sure he knew the meras, the d equipment, my phone, was out of the room. And I’m like, “look, I have nothg on me. I need you to know this is important. I need you to know what you meant for me.”</p><p>I said, “I was a queer kid growg up Miami. You me on TV and were very clearly yourself. You had this queer energy, and I nnected. You allowed me to be myself. It is so important that other people get to feel the same way I felt. Tim have changed. I thk you’d be embraced. Celebrated, even.”</p><p>He said, “you felt a gay energy om me.”</p><p>I said, “y!”</p><p>Then he said, “I’ve never talked about this openly... I’ve never felt I had to. I’ve never really wanted to.”</p><p>I wish he’d e out to me that nversatn. But he didn’t.</p><p>But his niece said somethg that stuck wh me. She said, “you have to be gnizant of that tape that’s put our bra, programmed om your childhood. The thgs stay wh you.” And I thk that’s te. He would hate for me to state his age, but he was 88 when he died. He grew up the 40s a super nservative, super Catholic Puerto Ri. And he was different. And wh that super machista Latx culture — Christ! We still rry that around today. Image then!</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>But what he eventually said was, “I was different, and I had to create a famo person si of me.” I thk he was referrg to his magic... but also, his queerns.</p><p>Now, ’s certaly not my job to out anyone, but ther no doubt my md that Walter was queer. Whether or not he was homosexual is different… but he’s loved by our queer muny. He challenged masculy and femy. Years ago, he said genr is a nstct that will not exist the future. 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I thk would’ve been so liberatg for him a way. But he lived his own tth.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Coat Human and Person" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Netflix</span></div></figure><p><strong>And tly... what’s more queer than that?</strong></p><p>Exactly! It’s different when you hear about policians like <a href=">Aaron Schock</a>, a gay guy who voted agast his muny at every turn. Wh Walter, his entire life was about cln. So ’s like, OK, maybe you didn’t e out. But you ma the world a better place for queer people like me. You’ve spired . And I don’t know how much more we uld have asked om him.</p><p><strong>If you were to have one more night wh Walter, what would you do?</strong></p><p>I would love to watch the film wh him. Actually- I would love to watch <em>him</em> watch the film. I know he’d hate the parts where he didn’t look perfect. But I would love for him to jt see .</p><p>Then, I would jt talk to him. He wasn’t a big drker, but I thk a night wh Walter and a bottle of we would be the bt. He’d talk to you about anythg. And if <em>you</em> wanted to talk about , was the most tertg subject the world.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-5 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Wh folks like</strong> <a href="><strong>Chani Nicholas</strong></a> <strong>and</strong> <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><strong>Astrosagas</strong></a><strong>, do you thk Walter’s legacy has held spiratn for the next generatn of queer astrologers?</strong></p><p>Y! We terviewed several queer astrologers who didn’t make the film, and they all said Walter was actually their troductn to astrology.</p><p>There are a lot of Latx astrologers and wch particular, who for such a long time practiced unrground. Walter helped brg that to the foreont. And some are really embracg that mpy wchs that Walter opened the door for. He spired them to be extra! You know, I feel the word “extra” was vented for Walter.</p><p><strong>Anythg you haven’t addrsed that you thk is important to discs?</strong></p><p>I’m glad this film mak people happy. That was all Walter wanted, really. There is a lot of plited sh that go on our muni, our untry, and our world. And ’s important to talk about that. But ’s also important to leave room for joy. Joy is fect. 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data-attribute-verso-pattern="article-body" class="ArticlePageContentBackGround-cNiFNN kJkLmH article-body__ntent"><div class="ArticlePageChunksContent-etcMtP bwyLBj"><div data-ttid="ArticlePageChunks" class="ArticlePageChunks-fLyCVG eOdfIs"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p> </p><p>“You don’t talk about sexualy or inty,” Kareem Tabsch, the -director of <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em></a>, asks Walter Merdo the documentary (now streamg on Netflix). “Why is that?”</p><p>“I have sexualy wh the wd,” Merdo repli. “I don’t need a person to have an asmic experience... I have sex wh life!”</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="l1jdop"></div></div><p>For those who are unfaiar, Merdo was an enormoly popular Puerto Rin telenovela star-turned-TV astrologer, known ternatnally for his ostentat athetic and verve. From the 1970s through the 2000s, Merdo prented dramatic horospe readgs to Spanish speakers worldwi, lightg daily dienc of up to <a href=">120 ln</a> at his peak.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>His rise to stardom began when a TV show host ved Merdo to give a short prentatn on astrology. Merdo’s segment was so wildly popular that he began makg regular appearanc drippg jewels, extravagant p and dramatic makp. But his reer was later marred by years of legal battl wh Bill Bakula, the same manager who once elevated Merdo’s platform the ‘80s and ‘90s. Consirg Bakula as his close iend, Merdo neglected to read a ntract <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">before signg </a>, which nferred all of the rights to his image, name and likens to Bakula. Merdo eventually reclaimed those rights, but his reer unfortunately never rebound. Merdo’s ath last year was mourned by lns worldwi, and <em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em> is an endlsly entertag way to look back at the astrologer’s impact.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Tabsch and -director Crista Costanti, both award-wng documentarians, embarked on <em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em> termed to unver <em>the real</em> Merdo, a queer Latx astrologer who Tabsch says ma him feel okay to be different growg up. What they found was a person whose life and work transcends rote labels and sexualy. Below, Tabsch spoke wh <em>them.</em> about Merdo’s last days, how Water fluenced Tabsch’s own sexualy, the hangg ambigui behd how Walter intified, and more.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Couch and Furnure" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Netflix</span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="hgqmu5"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="i92hh"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>What did Walter mean to you growg up as a queer kid?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Kareem Tabsch:</strong> I’m a Queer Cuban-Lebane child of immigrants, growg up the ‘80s. Our next door neighbors were a queer uple. People never treated them differently <em>explicly</em>, but there was always that fear, like “don’t get too close, you don’t want that bbg off on your kids,” or whatever... That’s how people talked about queerns back then.</p><p>But then you turn on the TV, and all of the sudn, there’s this fabulo person — I’d never seen anyone before who looked like that. He was happy, powerful, and succsful. But most of all, he was <em>loved</em>. My fay loved him.</p><p>I remember he looked the way I felt. He was different. And I knew I was different too.</p><p>Those five-mute appotment viewgs were sacred, quiet tim. And I thought, if my fay uld love him the way they did, then they uld love me.</p><p><strong>Did gettg to know Walter change your perceptn of him?</strong></p><p>We me thkg the Walter we saw on TV was jt a persona. But at one pot, his niece said, “you don’t get . The person you see is who he <em>always</em> is. Sce childhood.” We realized this was 100% te.</p><p>Walter’s grand nephew had a baby durg productn. They brought the baby to the hoe, but Walter refed to meet them until he’d done his hair and makp. He didn’t want the baby to see him not at his bt. He always wanted to look the way he felt si.</p><p>He knew his appearance drew people . And by dog so, he uld teach you. It was subversive and brilliant. We took for granted how brilliant he was. He uld talk to you about history, relign, astrology, film. He and I veloped a film shorthand, quotg talki. Once he said, “I want to be alone...”, a famo Greta Garbo le, and no one else got ! We shared a lot of private jok I really loved.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>One of our cematographers is a <a data-offer-url="(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy." class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy."}" href="(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Babalú-Ayé</a>, a Santeria high prit. And one day, out of nowhere, Walter started talkg to him <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Yoba</a>! He was jt nstantly imprsive that way.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eoUd"><p>"There are a lot of Latx astrologers and wch particular, who for such a long time practiced unrground. Walter helped brg that to the foreont. And some are really embracg that mpy wchs that Walter opened the door for. He spired them to be extra! You know, I feel the word ‘extra’ was vented for Walter."</p></div></asi><p><strong>Do you feel his energy changed his fal days?</strong></p><p>Not at all. Even on his athbed, he was talkg about what he wanted to do next. The book he was wrg, his next trip to Mexi. He was always readg, watchg, wantg to nverse. And he left no space for negativy. That was one of the harst thgs about this film- gettg him to talk about the difficult tim. I mean, he lost lns of dollars. It was a nstant strs for six years! But he didn’t want to dwell on that.</p><p>He was jt so posive and optimistic. And makg <em>you</em> feel better was the most important thg to him. I mean, he loved himself! He had an ego the size of Texas! But he loved you more. 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But was sneaky. I don’t know if this is public, but he was talkg about someone and said: “Sure, I love them! I love them... I love their wife... I love their lover…” And you jt had to lgh.</p><p><strong>You mentned talkg wh him about your sexualy. Can you tell me more about that?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>We wanted him to talk about his sexualy, but he gave the really packaged answers that felt empty. I was trated.</p><p>So I ma sure he knew the meras, the d equipment, my phone, was out of the room. And I’m like, “look, I have nothg on me. I need you to know this is important. I need you to know what you meant for me.”</p><p>I said, “I was a queer kid growg up Miami. You me on TV and were very clearly yourself. You had this queer energy, and I nnected. You allowed me to be myself. It is so important that other people get to feel the same way I felt. Tim have changed. I thk you’d be embraced. Celebrated, even.”</p><p>He said, “you felt a gay energy om me.”</p><p>I said, “y!”</p><p>Then he said, “I’ve never talked about this openly... I’ve never felt I had to. I’ve never really wanted to.”</p><p>I wish he’d e out to me that nversatn. But he didn’t.</p><p>But his niece said somethg that stuck wh me. She said, “you have to be gnizant of that tape that’s put our bra, programmed om your childhood. The thgs stay wh you.” And I thk that’s te. He would hate for me to state his age, but he was 88 when he died. He grew up the 40s a super nservative, super Catholic Puerto Ri. And he was different. And wh that super machista Latx culture — Christ! We still rry that around today. Image then!</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>But what he eventually said was, “I was different, and I had to create a famo person si of me.” I thk he was referrg to his magic... but also, his queerns.</p><p>Now, ’s certaly not my job to out anyone, but ther no doubt my md that Walter was queer. Whether or not he was homosexual is different… but he’s loved by our queer muny. He challenged masculy and femy. Years ago, he said genr is a nstct that will not exist the future. 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I thk would’ve been so liberatg for him a way. But he lived his own tth.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Coat Human and Person" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Netflix</span></div></figure><p><strong>And tly... what’s more queer than that?</strong></p><p>Exactly! It’s different when you hear about policians like <a href=">Aaron Schock</a>, a gay guy who voted agast his muny at every turn. Wh Walter, his entire life was about cln. So ’s like, OK, maybe you didn’t e out. But you ma the world a better place for queer people like me. You’ve spired . And I don’t know how much more we uld have asked om him.</p><p><strong>If you were to have one more night wh Walter, what would you do?</strong></p><p>I would love to watch the film wh him. Actually- I would love to watch <em>him</em> watch the film. I know he’d hate the parts where he didn’t look perfect. But I would love for him to jt see .</p><p>Then, I would jt talk to him. He wasn’t a big drker, but I thk a night wh Walter and a bottle of we would be the bt. He’d talk to you about anythg. And if <em>you</em> wanted to talk about , was the most tertg subject the world.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-5 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Wh folks like</strong> <a href="><strong>Chani Nicholas</strong></a> <strong>and</strong> <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><strong>Astrosagas</strong></a><strong>, do you thk Walter’s legacy has held spiratn for the next generatn of queer astrologers?</strong></p><p>Y! We terviewed several queer astrologers who didn’t make the film, and they all said Walter was actually their troductn to astrology.</p><p>There are a lot of Latx astrologers and wch particular, who for such a long time practiced unrground. Walter helped brg that to the foreont. And some are really embracg that mpy wchs that Walter opened the door for. He spired them to be extra! You know, I feel the word “extra” was vented for Walter.</p><p><strong>Anythg you haven’t addrsed that you thk is important to discs?</strong></p><p>I’m glad this film mak people happy. That was all Walter wanted, really. There is a lot of plited sh that go on our muni, our untry, and our world. And ’s important to talk about that. But ’s also important to leave room for joy. Joy is fect. 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