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Way back 1994, the <em>New York Tim </em>ran an edorial entled "<a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Are Bert and Ernie Gay?" class="body-lk css-1mt1pvh et3p2gv0">Are Bert and Ernie Gay?</a>" rponse to letters that had been sent to TV Gui on the subject. Someone was wrg to TV Gui (on paper!) about whether two characters om <em>Same Street</em> had a timhare on Fire Island before Troye Sivan was even born. Like the most succsful of pop culture ephemera, 's an ia that has animated the imagatns of some and stoked the outrage of others for s. It me to a head yterday when, for a brief moment, the ter believed had nfirmatn. In an terview published on <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Queerty" class="body-lk css-1mt1pvh et3p2gv0">Queerty</a>, former <em>Same Street </em>wrer Mark Saltzman said, "I always felt that whout a huge agenda, when I was wrg Bert & Ernie, they were [a uple.] I didn’t have any other way to ntextualize them." The se amed the terview as a g out announcement and the ter quickly picked up.<br /></p><p data-no-id="1" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">But late yterday, Saltzman told the <em>New York Tim </em>that his ments to Queerty had been taken out of ntext. "As a wrer, you jt brg what you know to your work," But, he was notably sangue about settg down hard and fast l about the duo. "It’s like poetry. It’s what you need to be,” he said. 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After a former "Same Street" wrer said Bert and Ernie are gay an terview, the non-prof behd "Same Street," Same Workshop, issued a statement regardg the characters' sexualy.

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BERT AND ERNIE ARE ED A GAY UPLE, 'SAME STREET' WRER CLAIMS

A former wrer for the Muppets said he nsired Bert and Ernie to be gay — and Same Street quickly refuted his terpretatn * ernie bert gay *

A former wrer for Same Street said a recent terview that he nsired Bert and Ernie to be gay — but the show rebutted this claim, sayg the puppets “do not have a sexual orientatn.

SAME STREET SAYS BERT AND ERNIE 'DON'T HAVE A SEXUAL ORIENTATN' AFTER LONGTIME WRER CLAIMS THEY'RE GAY

In a slew of tweets on Tuday, Frank Oz said Bert and Ernie aren't gay after a former "Same Street" wrer said the duo are a uple. * ernie bert gay *

“I always felt that whout a huge agenda, when I was wrg Bert & Ernie, they were [gay], ” Saltzman said.

THE FIGHT OVER SAME STREET’S BERT AND ERNIE AS A GAY UPLE, EXPLAED

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’ But those two… you had characters that appealed to a gay dience.

Are Bert and Ernie gay? Same Street has always had one nsistent official answer (no, they’re not), but that hasn’t stopped the two famo felt roommat om beg gay ins and occupyg a unique role the queer rights movement.

FRANK OZ WEIGHS ON 'SAME STREET' WRER SAYG BERT AND ERNIE ARE GAY

Same Workshop issued a statement clarifyg Bert and Ernie's relatnship after a former wrer said he nsired the puppets to be gay. * ernie bert gay *

Controversy over their perceived homosexualy has raged termtently for s, spearhead by both alli and adversari — and a new flare-up shows that ’s not gog away anytime soon. The official negatn was echoed by puppetmaster Frank Oz, who origally performed Bert oppose Jim Henson as Ernie, and who stated on Twter that “They’re not [gay], of urse. For those queer fans lookg for narrative subtext, there’s plenty to be found the personas of Bert and Ernie; after all, there’s a reason we as a culture have been discsg their relatnship for s, a reason that they ntue to be held up as gay ins across generatns — and a reason people have spent s beg hoppg mad about .

It’s all pretty gay!

WHY MATTERS THAT BERT AND ERNIE ARE GAY, WHICH THEY AREWHY MATTERS THAT BERT AND ERNIE ARE GAY, WHICH THEY ARE

For years, dienc have bated whether Bert and Ernie are Same Street's rint gay uple. Here's why 's such a phenomenon. * ernie bert gay *

Among homosexuals, Bert and Ernie of Same Street are the real thg. Bert and Ernie nduct themselv the same lovg, discreet way that lns of gay men, women and hand puppets do.

ARE BERT AND ERNIE A GAY UPLE? FALLY, THE ANSWER

Who gets to tell the tth of a character? After nflictg acunts about whether or not Ernie and Bert are gay, thor John Slzi nsirs the possibili. * ernie bert gay *

“I don’t believe there was much public discsn, ser or otherwise, about the crypto-gayns of The Odd Couple the 1960s and ’70s, ” he wrote an email. “That kd of disurse only appeared ncerng work about straight characters by gay wrers — most famoly, whether Who’s Aaid of Virgia Woolf was somehow ‘really’ about a gay uple, ” he add.

“In 1980, when I published my Bert & Ernie thg, there were still no out gay characters mass media.

ARE BERT AND ERNIE GAY?

The piece of the zegeist I was rpondg to was, jt a after Stonewall (which BTW occurred a few months before Same Street premiered) and the first pri march, the hly ‘normalized’ nature of out gayns plac like New York. The nversatn between Saltzman and terviewer Reddish is illumatg and poignant, equently returng to Saltzman’s experience as a young gay man the early ’80s, one fdg his way out of the closet jt as the AIDS epimic was begng to be wily unrstood. “I n remember pchg to the tn partment, the gatekeepers of the curriculum, gay ntent, jt to get off my nscience.

But there was one place Saltzman was able to sert his own lived experience as a gay man to his wrg, and that was through the personas of Bert and Ernie.

“There is a difference, ” he told the Tim, between “brg[g] what you know to your work” and “Bert and Ernie beg gay. But ’s also important to note that if Saltzman’s origal ment to Queerty that “when I was wrg Bert & Ernie, they were” lovers was te, seems to have been an impulse born out of the ep existential crisis of beg gay durg the AIDS epimic. It was an era when an entire culture was unr attack — if not om the disease directly, then om the many homophobic parameters that arguably worsened the spe of the tragedy.

ARE BERT AND ERNIE GAY? ‘SAME STREET’ WRER SAYS HIS COMMENTS WERE MISTERPRETED

In that era, primarily due to homophobic agators, Bert and Ernie beme perpetually discsed parts of the so-lled “gay agenda. In the ’90s, Bert and Ernie were drafted to the “homosexual agenda. In the ’90s, Bert and Ernie beme viewed by some as threateng elements of a homosexual liftyle that was perceived as encroachg upon a mastream heteronormative culture.

THE MAKERS OF 'SAME STREET' ISSUED AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT REGARDG BERT AND ERNIE'S SEXUALY, AFTER A FORMER WRER SAID HE VIEWED THEM AS A GAY UPLE

In 1993, the New Voice, a regnal gay newspaper, reported that Tupelo, Mississippi, gay panic had spng up over the appearance of Bert and Ernie as part of a Same Street tour stop at a lol arena.

“Tupelo lism officials say they’ve been bombard wh ncerned parents wantg to know if two of the fictnal characters are gay, ” the newspaper noted.

“Officials say mors that Same Street’s Bert and Ernie characters are supposedly portrayg a homosexual uple have circulated across the untry. If this isn’t meant to reprent a homosexual unn, I n’t image what ’s supposed to reprent. “Bert and Ernie, who’ve been on Same Street for 25 years, do not portray a gay uple, and there are no plans for them to do so the future, ” reads a statement om 1993 llected by Snop.

NO, BERT AND ERNIE AREN'T GAY — THEY'RE 'BT IENDS,' SAYS 'SAME STREET'

In 2000, one wrer displayed Bert and Ernie dolls at his same-sex weddg as a repudiatn of the homophobic enzy around the characters; 2002, the Same Street Workshop stopped circulatn of a cult die film lled Ernt and Bertram that rest the characters as gay.

In 2010, discsn of the queerg of the Same Street characters was fully mastream, prompted part by a tweet om the official Same Street acunt that read to some as nfirmatn of Bert’s homosexualy.

The ke had been orred, ironilly, as a way to memorate the Internatnal Day Agast Homophobia. Given that Bert and Ernie have been repeatedly drafted to the gay agenda by homophob, ’s a matter of, well, pri, for queer fans to subversively view them as a joyo reprentatn of a posive queer relatnship — which is why Same Street’s nial on Tuday stck many people as homophobic.

ARE ERNIE AND BERT GAY? WHO GETS TO SAY?

As long as Bert and Ernie uld be queer, they will ntue to enrage homophob who seek to e them to imply a gay nspiracy to filtrate mastream pop culture. Frank Oz is voice of dozens of puppets and muppets as one of Jim Henson's earlit llaborators — and now the storied puppeteer is lendg his voice to the bate over whether or not "Same Street" characters Bert and Ernie are gay. Mark Saltzman was asked if Bert & Ernie are gay.

Why the need to fe people as only gay?

WE'RE STILL GOG TO KEEP THKG ERNIE AND BERT ARE GAY AND THERE'S NOTHG YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT

There's much more to a human beg than jt straightns or gayns. "Director/producer/puppeteer Frank Oz pos for a portra at the "Muppet Guys Talkg - Secrets Behd the Show the Whole World Watched" at the 2017 SXSW Wkelmeyer / Getty Imag for SXSW fileOz ntued to go back-and-forth wh people rpondg to his tweet who asked why the lorful puppets uldn't be gay.

*BEAR-MAGAZINE.COM* ERNIE BERT GAY

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