Jul Ramirez and John Umberger were found ad after leavg New York gay bars last year, wh their bank acunts draed. NBC's Jay Valle has more.
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- INDICTMENTS ARE HAND UP NNECTN WH NYC GAY BAR KILLGS, SOURC SAY
- NYC GAY BAR ATHS WERE HOMICIS, MEDIL EXAMER L
- NYC OFFICIALS FEND PACE OF VTIGATN TO ATHS OF TWO GAY MEN
- ‘I GOT AN UMBRELLA AND AMBN’: INDICTMENT REVEALS ALLEGED CONSPIRACY BEHD GAY BAR DEATHS
- FATAL OVERDOS OF 2 WHO DIED AFTER LEAVG GAY BARS ARE RULED HOMICIS
- 2 KILLED SPECTED RASH OF DGGGS AND ROBBERI N.Y.C. GAY NIGHTLIFE SCENE
- MURR SPECTS ARRAIGNED STRG OF NYC GAY BAR ROBBERI THAT LEFT TWO AD
- DGGGS, DEATHS AND ROBBERI PUT NEW YORK’S GAY COMMUNY ON EDGE
- NEW YORK CY GAY MUNY ON HIGH ALERT AFTER STRG OF ALLEGED DGGGS, ROBBERI AND AT LEAST TWO ATHS
- LAST CALL: BEHD THE TERRIFYG UNTOLD STORY OF NEW YORK'S GAY BAR KILLER
- GAY BAR DEATHS NEW YORK CY RULED AS HOMICIS
- SEVERAL FACE CHARG KILLGS OF GAY MEN WHO WERE DGGED AND ROBBED
- NEW YORK CY GAY BAR ATHS CLASSIFIED AS HOMICIS
- NYC GAY BAR DEATHS WERE HOMICIS, MEDIL EXAMER RUL
INDICTMENTS ARE HAND UP NNECTN WH NYC GAY BAR KILLGS, SOURC SAY
Two gay men who end up ad wh their bank acunts draed after leavg New York Cy bars last year were both homici victims, thori said Friday. * new york city gay bar deaths *
A Manhattan grand jury has dicted several spects nnectn wh the aths of two men who were dgged and killed separate cints followg viss to New York Cy gay bars last year, two law enforcement officials said Wednday. The Manhattan District Attorney’s office cled to ment, as did an NYPD spokman, cg the ongog Umberger and Jul Clary; Fay photoUmberger and Ramirez were both found ad after visg gay bars the cy’s lively Hell’s Kchen neighborhood last sprg. It is unclear, however, if they were of gay men found ad after visg gay bars or whether they were nnected to the dicted spects.
”In the months followg the aths of Ramirez and Umberger, more gay New Yorkers stepped forward wh eerily siar acunts.
NBC News has spoken wh several gay men who said they survived siar cints om December 2021 to October 2022, both before and after the aths of Ramirez and NYPD nfirmed mid-November that was vtigatg addnal acunts of grand larceny at other Manhattan gay bars that had siari to the Umberger and Ramirez s. Two gay men who end up ad wh their bank acunts draed after leavg New York Cy bars last year were both homici victims, thori said men died separate cints. Invtigators wanted to know more about the aths of Jul Ramirez and John Umberger and if they were among “several cints where dividuals have been victims of eher robberi or asslt, " police said at the Umberger and Jul Ramirez were dgged and killed separate cints followg viss to New York Cy gay Clary; Fay photoThe aths of both men have been led homicis ed by a "dg-facilated theft, " the Office of Chief Medil Examer said Friday.
NYC GAY BAR ATHS WERE HOMICIS, MEDIL EXAMER L
John Umberger, 33, and Jul Ramirez, 25, were found ad after they vised gay bars Manhattan’s Hell’s Kchen last year. * new york city gay bar deaths *
A month later, Umberger, a 33-year-old polil nsultant, was found ad after he and two unintified men left another popular Hell’s Kchen gay bar, the Q.
Umberger’s ath was ed by "acute toxitn by the bed effects of fentanyl, p-fluorofentanyl, e, lidoe and ethanol, " the medil examer members of the two men uld not immediately be reached for ment the months followg the aths, more gay New Yorkers me forward wh acunts that had siari. The NYPD also nfirmed addnal acunts of grand larceni at other New York Cy gay bars that rembled Ramirez's and Umberger's s.
Nearly a year sce two people died followg dg-facilated thefts after they vised gay bars New York Cy — and dozens were robbed g the same method — thori fend the pace of their vtigatn. ”John Umberger, 33, a polil nsultant, and Jul Ramirez, 25, a social worker, were found ad after they vised gay bars Manhattan’s Hell’s Kchen neighborhood last year. ”Several gay men who survived siar cints prevly scribed their ial teractns wh the police partment as dismissive and accatory.
NYC OFFICIALS FEND PACE OF VTIGATN TO ATHS OF TWO GAY MEN
In 2022, the fatal dggg and robbg of Jul Ramirez and John Umberger outsi New York gay bars put the cy's LGBTQ muny on edge. * new york city gay bar deaths *
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A vigil memoratg Jul Ramirez New York on June Constante Motal / NBC NewsNBC News has spoken wh several gay men who said they survived siar cints om December 2021 to March 2023. It is unclear, however, whether they were found ad after havg vised gay bars or whether they were nnected wh the same spects. ‘I Got an Umbrella and Ambn’: Indictment Reveals Alleged Conspiracy Behd Gay Bar Deaths.
‘I GOT AN UMBRELLA AND AMBN’: INDICTMENT REVEALS ALLEGED CONSPIRACY BEHD GAY BAR DEATHS
The aths of Jul Ramirez, 25, and John Umberger, 33, have been lked after both were reportedly dgged at popular N.Y.C. gay bars and later found ad. At least five other people have reported siar events." emprop="scriptn * new york city gay bar deaths *
A seri of dgggs and robberi — cludg two fatal overdos — outsi bars 2022 left New York's gay muny on edge.
In the sprg of 2022, two men were dgged and robbed after leavg gay bars New York. On April 21, 2022, some of the fendants approached Jul Ramirez outsi of the Rz Bar, the dictment stated, a gay bar Midtown Manhattan.
FATAL OVERDOS OF 2 WHO DIED AFTER LEAVG GAY BARS ARE RULED HOMICIS
The New York Cy Police Department is the vtigatg the two aths of gay men after they vised LGBT bars Manhattan, and a strg of robberi and asslts agast gay men. * new york city gay bar deaths *
Umberger was leavg the Q NYC, a gay nightclub two blocks and one avenue away om the Rz Bar. The dictments e after police have said they were vtigatg siar crim at bars, where they said gay people and straight people have both been victimized, acrdg to the New York Tim. Moon for The New York TimThe fatal overdos of two men who died and were robbed after leavg gay bars Manhattan last year were led homicis on Friday by the New York Cy medil examer’s termatn me about 11 months after the body of the first victim, Jul Ramirez, was found abandoned the back of a taxi on the Lower East Si.
Such dgs stay a person’s system for only a short time, makg them very difficult to tect, medil experts dg that has been lked to date rape, GHB, is easily obtaable and ed recreatnally by some gay men. The aths of Jul Ramirez, 25, and John Umberger, 33, are beg vtigated by the NYPD's homici un after both were allegedly dgged at popular gay bars and later found ad wh thoands of dollars whdrawn om their acunts, The New York Tim reported Saturday, while others have claimed to have survived siar experienc. Sce Ramirez and Umberger's ath, New York Cy Council member Erik Bottcher and volunteers have passed out flyers Hell's Kchen, notifyg gay men of the spected dgggs and warng them to be "extra vigilant.
The aths e amid mountg homophobic stigma around Monkeypox, "groomer" rhetoric sparked by "Don't Say Gay" bills and the recent adly shootg at LGBTQ tablishment Club Q Colorado Sprgs, Colo., which killed five people and jured 18 others. A send spect was arrted and charged wh murr nnectn wh a strg of dg-facilated robberi of men who vised gay bars New York Cy that clud two aths, two senr law enforcement officials told NBC News on Monday.
2 KILLED SPECTED RASH OF DGGGS AND ROBBERI N.Y.C. GAY NIGHTLIFE SCENE
In a new book, journalist Elon Green explor the unr-reported stori of gay men btally murred by a killer who evad jtice for a * new york city gay bar deaths *
Umberger and Jul Ramirez, a 25-year-old social worker, were both found ad after visg gay bars Manhattan’s Hell’s Kchen neighborhood last sprg. ” Multiple dgs were found their systems, cludg fentanyl, lidoe and Umberger and Jul Ramirez were dgged and killed separate cints followg viss to New York Cy gay Clary; Fay photoThe two law enforcement officials said that police obtaed secury vio showg Dema and Jayqwan Haton — one of three spects police have named nnectn to the homicis of Umberger and Ramirez — enterg and leavg Umberger's temporary rince Manhattan's Upper East Si. NBC News has spoken wh several gay men who said they survived siar cints om December 2021 to October 2022.
The New York Cy Police Department prevly nfirmed to NBC News that there are multiple groups of crimals mtg the typ of crim agast men visg the cy’s gay bars. It is unclear, however, if they were found ad after visg gay bars or whether they were nnected wh Dema, Barroso and Haton.
AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTAt first, the men’s aths were treated as overdos, until tens of thoands of dollars were found draed om their bank Umberger was seen leavg the Q nightclub Manhattan, his mother Moon for The New York TimJul Ramirez died the back seat of a taxi April after he left a popular gay bar Manhattan wh a group of men. They stole his wallet, phone and ID before they abandoned his body the r wh a distrsed month later, John Umberger was found ad an Upper East Si townhoe after he and a group of men left another popular gay bar jt three blocks om the last place Mr. Muny at first regard the aths as isolated dg overdos: men who partied too hard, quotidian tragedi a gay nightlife scene that has roared back to life as the ronavis panmic has the men’s fai soon disvered somethg more sister: Cred rds the men’s nam were maxed out and their bank acunts draed of tens of thoands of dollars.
MURR SPECTS ARRAIGNED STRG OF NYC GAY BAR ROBBERI THAT LEFT TWO AD
New York’s chief medil examer’s office said that two gay men were killed by “dg-facilated theft.” * new york city gay bar deaths *
Muny, which emerged om the panmic to the jaws of a monkeypox outbreak, a landspe of stgglg and sometim shuttered bars and an creasgly hostile natnal polil have also spread fear and mor, while startg a broar nversatn about siar attacks that have quietly plagued the cy’s gay nightlife for years. Umberger were targeted bee they were gay, and they have not said if they believe the men’s aths and other nonfatal attacks are men who said they were dgged have stggled to nvce the police they were the victims of a crime and not jt irrponsible partygoers who took someone home and blacked Alarn, 33, said he was dgged at the Rz March 2020. Umberger, The Tim has spoken to five men who said they were dgged at gay bars the cy — cludg the Eagle, the Boiler Room and the 9th Avenue Saloon — and then robbed.
It is also ed recreatnally by some the gay Burt, 27, was robbed of more than $25, 000 after he was dgged at the Boiler Room the East Village last December. ImageCouncilman Erik Bottcher reprents much of the cy’s gay heartland Hell’s Kchen, Chelsea and the Wt Moon for The New York TimGay bars hold a special place L.
DGGGS, DEATHS AND ROBBERI PUT NEW YORK’S GAY COMMUNY ON EDGE
* new york city gay bar deaths *
Councilman Erik Bottcher — who reprents much of the cy’s gay heartland Hell’s Kchen, Chelsea and the Wt Village — lled “a goln age of nightlife. People of “groomg” children, a homophobic trope that nflat homosexualy wh pedophilia. Bar Colorado addn, many gay bars are or near Midtown Manhattan, which has been transformed by panmic-era enomic llapse and acts of high-profile street crime.
More about Liam StackA versn of this article appears prt on, Sectn A, Page 16 of the New York edn wh the headle: Dgggs, Deaths and Robberi Put Cy’s Gay Communy on Edge.
NEW YORK CY GAY MUNY ON HIGH ALERT AFTER STRG OF ALLEGED DGGGS, ROBBERI AND AT LEAST TWO ATHS
The New York Cy Police Department is vtigatg a strg of cints which gay men say they were dgged at bars and left wh massive unthorized bank acunt whdrawals. At least two other gay men were disvered ad wh spic bank whdrawals, acrdg to fay members who are soundg the alarm on their aths. "Word needs to get out, pecially the gay muny, that they are targetg gay men....
LAST CALL: BEHD THE TERRIFYG UNTOLD STORY OF NEW YORK'S GAY BAR KILLER
This same group of killers have dgged, robbed and murred untls young gay men New York.
"Umberger, 33, was disvered ad an Upper East Si townhoe May after he left a gay club Hell’s Kchen wh a group of other men, the New York Tim reported Saturday.
Jt a month earlier, another man named Jul Ramirez, 25, died the back of a b after leavg a gay bar wh a group of men jt blocks om where Umberger had spent the eveng before his both s, the men’s cellphon were missg when their bodi were disvered. MULTIPLE BRICK-THROWING INCIDENTS REPORTED AT NYC GAY BAR John Umberger died May 2022 Manhattan. "VIDEO SHOWS SUSPECT IN NYC GAY BAR ATTACKThe New York Cy Police Department told Fox News Digal on Monday that Ramirez’s and Umberger’s aths "are currently unr vtigatn and the medil examer will terme their of ath.
GAY BAR DEATHS NEW YORK CY RULED AS HOMICIS
" The police did not say whether the two men were targeted bee they were gay. The Rz Bar and Lounge Manhattan (Google Maps)Other men, however, have also reported beg dgged and robbed of fanc after a night out at a gay bars and clubs Manhattan.
"After wakg up, he disvered $2, 000 had been transferred out of his acunts through Paypal and Zelle apps on his New York Tim spoke to five men who said they were dgged at gay bars the cy and then robbed. SUSPECT IN NYC GAY BAR ATTACKS ARRESTED"[The NYPD] asked me if I had been asslted, and I was like, ‘Gettg dgged is asslt, ’" Tyler Burt, 27, said. ’" The Boiler Room Manhattan (Google Maps)Burt said he was robbed of more than $25, 000 after beg dgged at the Boiler Room gay bar the East Village last asked about the strg of alleged dgggs and robberi agast gay men, the NYPD nfirmed to Fox News Digal that the "Crim Agast Persons Un, along wh the Manhattan North and South Homici Squads, are jotly workg wh our partners the New York County District Attorney’s Office to vtigate several cints where dividuals have been victims of eher robberi or asslt.
In fact, the people who were most at risk – this se, gay men who met for hook-ups at New York Cy bars that served the muny – were given no staed or amplified warngs by eher the thori or the media, creatg a safe space for the murrer to ntue to wreak havoc. In fact, the se got so ltle attentn relative to s horror that today few remember , even wh the gay, three s after the murrs, journalist Elon Green has wrten a book tled Last Call: A Te Story of Love, Lt, and Murr Queer New York that go beyond the facts of the story to reveal the larger issu that surround them. Worse, that perd reprented the height of ignorance and fear about Aids, as well as the peak ath toll the gay muny the wt, greatly impactg how the muny was viewed.
SEVERAL FACE CHARG KILLGS OF GAY MEN WHO WERE DGGED AND ROBBED
“Aids took what was, at bt, a level of difference towards gay people and turned to revulsn, ” said Green.
Between 1987 and 1994 the cy saw a greater number of killgs than any other stretch more than half a that benighted era, gay bars were often ‘the one refuge om the perils of everyday life’, says Green. ’ Photograph: Wonwoo Lee/Getty Imag/Image SourceI n speak to the equency of vlence the gay muny back then.
NEW YORK CY GAY BAR ATHS CLASSIFIED AS HOMICIS
In that same time ame, a close iend was gay-bashed to unnscns by a gang of young men, g a days-long stay the hospal, and I was punched so hard the stomach outsi a gay dance club I thought the guy mt have ed a hammer.
Several years later, on a sunny day on Christopher Street (then the center of New York’s gay life), a man g an anti-gay ephet smashed my bt iend the head wh a rock. ”Meanwhile, the officer did story at the re of Last Call ptur a time the cy, and the liv of gay men, that seem far removed om the current one.
NYC GAY BAR DEATHS WERE HOMICIS, MEDIL EXAMER RUL
Back that benighted era, gay bars were often “the one refuge om the perils of everyday life”, said Green. At the same time, was a particular type of gay man equentg a specific kd of bar, who tend to be the victim this se.
As to why he elud jtice the s, Green said, “most likely the jury believed that this was a gay man attackg another gay man and they didn’t re about the circumstanc.