Si Guys: Thkg Beyond Gay Male "Tops" and "Bottoms" | Psychology Today

Contents:

• WHAT IS WRONG WH GAY CHRISTIANY? WHAT IS SI A AND SI B ANYWAY?
• THE JOY-ROBBG FALSE HOPE OF SI B GAY CHRISTIANY
• HOW CELIBATE GAY CHRISTIANS DEAL WH DIRE
• #3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 SIS ON SSA/GAY SEXUALY
• SI GUYS: THKG BEYOND GAY MALE "TOPS" AND "BOTTOMS"

WHAT IS WRONG WH GAY CHRISTIANY? WHAT IS SI A AND SI B ANYWAY?

While grateful for the experience of beg gay, Hartley se his gay inty as somethg that go beyond jt sex — “I never say that I’m grateful for same-sex sexual sire, ” he said — also clus athetics, culture and worldview. As Si B disurse was fdg s way to onle foms, the flagship Christian ex-gay anizatn Exod Internatnal closed s doors 2013 after s of g nversn therapy on LGBTQ dividuals. Many LGBTQ Christians who had been harmed by the ex-gay approach — but still held to tradnal church teachgs on marriage — turned to Si B for a more acceptg muny.

Bridget Eileen Rivera, a celibate gay Christian and thor of “Heavy Burns: Seven Ways LGTBQ Christians Experience Harm the Church, ” don’t e the Si B label.

THE JOY-ROBBG FALSE HOPE OF SI B GAY CHRISTIANY

“When a gay person lands the more nservative, tradnal mp, ’s helpful to distguish them om those who are really theologilly a different place, ” he said. On the flip si, some progrsive crics, who are fewer number, said Hill and Hartley, see Si B as another eratn of the ex-gay movement or a form of rpectabily polics where LGBTQ dividuals reprs their sexualy to w approval om the broar church.

“The ia that Si B is jt the ex-gay movement wh a different veneer ignor or mimiz the fact that Si B people are fleeg ex-gay movements and ex-gay church, ” said Hartley.

Th agreed and add that the motivatns behd Si B and the ex-gay movement are entirely different; one is tryg to make gay people straight, and the other is tryg to expand how the church views love and kship. Colls said many Si B are cidg whether they have more mon wh the LGBTQ inty found Si A or the tradnal sexual ethic found ex-gay approach. “Si B me out of dissatisfactn wh the simple and easy answers of the ex-gay movement, ” said Hartley, “and so, embracg plexy or allowg plexy is ntrast to that sistence on uniformy.

HOW CELIBATE GAY CHRISTIANS DEAL WH DIRE

The church nmned such feelgs as bad choic and nmned the people (like me) who experienced the feelgs as abomatns, falsely llg homosexual sir a willful choice. They are supported by the Gay Christian Network, or Si A (which sanctns same-sex marriage and believ that homosexualy is jt one of many forms of diverse sexualy that the church should wele), and the Spirual Friendship ter muny, or Si B (which believ that homosexualy is not a morally culpable issue, although is a nsequence of the brokenns om the Fall; Si B teach agast homosexual sexual practice, but only for the sake of Christian tradn).

E., there is such a thg as a gay person—that gayns scrib who someone sentially is), their theology no way allows for an unrstandg of why homosexualy, even at the level of sire, is sful and needg the grace of repentance. To the Si B Christian, homosexualy is a sexualy—one of the years, we have seen many Si B Christians fect for Si A, clarg that God sanctns gay unns.

#3 - A-B-Y-X | 4 SIS ON SSA/GAY SEXUALY

This n be a very challengg issue for a Christian who experienc SSA, an issue that be exceedgly more challengg if one assum the social inty of “gay Christian.

They argue that the biblil thors were referrg to ancient sexual practic—or nonnsensual enunters—and not the lovg, monogamo, homosexual relatnships of today. Proponents of this view say that homosexualy is no different om any other s sce is listed among many ss and not sgled out (see 1 Timothy 1:8–11). Josh Proctor, producer of the Life on Si B podst, summariz that, for Si X, “marriage and chaste sglens are both viewed as godly optns for people wh same-sex attractns to pursue, but while there are multiple ex-gay dividuals who end up sgle for life, the pursu of marriage is always seen as the higher llg” (, accsed 2/18/2023).

For those who choose this directn some have stayed their tradnal church, others, due to prsur om their church, or their own disfort those church, choose stead to attend gay-affirmg church.

SI GUYS: THKG BEYOND GAY MALE "TOPS" AND "BOTTOMS"

Romans 1:26-27 passage ( ntext) The famo Romans 1 passage is looked at terms of idolatry and wh the ia that the nmnatn was on heterosexuals actg like homosexuals as part of idol worship which would be unnatural. See this se to see the shift translatn over the years of this word Homosexualy misunrstood bible tim One may also fd this viewpot that there is a general belief that people biblil tim did not unrstand homosexualy as we know today. Sodom and Gomorrah: Generally, for Christian lgbt dividuals this is actually an area where I fd more agreement lgbt Si A / Si B Christian circl wh many on Si B typilly regardg the Sodom and Gomorrah acunt as not relevant to today's discsn of homosexualy.

While is te that many Si A gay and lbian people do glorify God, lgbt dividuals who are Si B believe that beg celibate (not havg same-sex sex) honors the stctns of this passage. Note: We as a Church need to readily adm that people who have intified as gay or admted that they stggle wh Same-Sex Attractn (SSA) have been mistreated horrendo ways and by the Church. Si-A Gay Christiany, observg that there was very ltle succs people actually changg “orientatn, ” teach that is permissible and good for “gay people” to be same-sex marriag and therefore sexual relatnships bee that is who they are.