Frasier thks Roz's new boyiend is gay, and tri to tch him out a gay bar, while g home om a squash game wh Nil.
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- FRASIER A GAY BAR
- THAT GAY EPISO: ‘FRASIER’ IS GAY COMEDY BY GAY PEOPLE STARRG STRAIGHT CHARACTERS
- A GAY UPLE RAN A RAL RTRANT PEACE. THEN NEW NEIGHBORS ARRIVED.
- WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
FRASIER A GAY BAR
The Doctor Is Out: Directed by David Lee. Wh Kelsey Grammer, Jane Leev, David Hy Pierce, Peri Gilp. A misunrstandg leads the town to believe that Frasier is gay." data-id="ma * frasier in a gay bar *
FrasierCast & crewUser reviewsTriviaEpiso aired Sep 30, 2003TV-PG23mA misunrstandg leads the town to believe that Frasier is gay. A misunrstandg leads the town to believe that Frasier is productn, box office & pany PhotosReview The gayt Frasier far! But when Frasier meets him, he assum the guy is seems pretty funny nsirg how stereotypilly gay many of Frasier's actns are on the show.
THAT GAY EPISO: ‘FRASIER’ IS GAY COMEDY BY GAY PEOPLE STARRG STRAIGHT CHARACTERS
Out wh Dad: Directed by David Lee. Wh Kelsey Grammer, Jane Leev, David Hy Pierce, Peri Gilp. Frasier's new girliend thks Mart is gay and tri to set him up wh her uncle." data-id="ma * frasier in a gay bar *
When he later se this boyiend and thks he's gone to a gay bar, Frasier soon folks about Seattle thk Frasier is gay and that's why he went to the tablishment. One of the folks who now assum Frasier is gay is Alistair Burke (Patrick Stewart) and stead of rrectg Alistair's assumptn, Frasier pretends to be gay.
Patrick Stewart is hilar as a gay, egomanial opera director who assum Frasier is gay after he is outed by a fan on the rad. The bt are when Frasier go to a gay bar, wearg shorts three siz too small, as he looks for a man who is datg Roz. " This has always irked me that people feel sorry for the gay person who wasted years of someone else's life by lyg to them and pretendg to have feelgs for them they never had, as well as cheatg on them.
FrasierCast & crewUser reviewsTriviaEpiso aired Feb 10, 2000TV-PG22mFrasier's new girliend thks Mart is gay and tri to set him up wh her uncle. Frasier's new girliend thks Mart is gay and tri to set him up wh her productn, box office & pany PhotosReview One of the, if not the, funnit episosOn the floor lghg wh scen this gem. A sharply wrten script, "The Doctor Is Out" perhaps is the least of Joe Keenan's "gay trilogy" but that's only bee the other two are so brilliant.
A GAY UPLE RAN A RAL RTRANT PEACE. THEN NEW NEIGHBORS ARRIVED.
(Mart's spicn that Barry isn't gay bee he has mcl is perhaps a touch "season 1" of the character, but I'm beg picky.
The tag basilly nfirms the (non-existent) qutn of whether he's gay, and I enjoy Hibbert's scen here but - my recurrg list of "thgs I wished happened the show's fal season" - ni much real exploratn of the character, which uld have been tertg. One n't help image that ls-tolerant parts of the Wtern world, a newer to "Frasier" uld turn on the TV, gaze at the two ma characters, and quickly turn off, assumg they were watchg a "gay program". Gay jok and a general awkwardns around the subject of homosexualy were typil the 1990s and early 2000s.
WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY"IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT."{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}CELEBRIBY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018/10:26 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:1482PX;WIDTH:1956PX;} CBS VIA GETTY IMAGELOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 7: JOHN MAHONEY AS MART CRANE THE FRASIER EPISO, "FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU, FOOL ME TWICE. . ." ORIGAL BROADST WAS FEBARY 7, 1995, SEASON 2, EPISO 14. IMAGE IS A SCREEN GRAB. (PHOTO BY CBS VIA GETTY IMAG)BY DAN AVERYFEBARY 9, 2018 / 10:26 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"WHY I DIDN'T OUT JOHN MAHONEY AS GAY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-09T15:26:08.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"DAN AVERY","KEYWORDS":"OPN","ARTICLESECTN":"CELEBRI"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN NEWS OF JOHN MAHONEY'S ATH MA THE ROUNDS THIS WEEK, I WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FRASIER WAS ONE OF THE FEW SHOWS MY PARENTS AND I WATCHED TOGETHER, A RARE STANCE OF FAY UNY. I ALSO REMEMBERED HIM FONDLY MOONSTCK, SAY ANYTHG..., AND OF URSE, THE BROKEN HEARTS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT I WAS MORE SADNED BY THE FACT THAT HE NEVER FELT FORTABLE BEG PUBLIC ABOUT HIS SEXUALY. I'D HEARD PLENTY OF TIM THAT MAHONEY WAS GAY BUT NOT OFFICIALLY OUT: SOMETIM THE STORY WAS HE HAD A PARTNER. OTHER TIM, HE LIVED A SOLARY {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON TUDAY NIGHT I SURED THE INTER LOOKG FOR ON-THE-RERD REFERENC TO MAHONEY'S SEXUALY SO I ULD WRE AN OB THAT DIDN'T FEEL AWKWARD OR CLU A DISASTRO LE LIKE "LIFELONG BACHELOR" OR "HE NEVER MARRIED OR HAD KIDS."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT NO SUCH ACUNT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NOT OM DAN BUTLER OR DAVID HY PIERCE, TWO GAY MEN WHO KNEW MAHONEY OM WORKG TOGETHER ON FRASIER. NOT OM STEPPENWOLF THEATER CHIGO, WHERE MAHONEY PERFORMED FOR YEARS. WHAT I DID FD WERE REFERENC TO MAHONEY AS VLENTLY PROTECTIVE OF HIS PRIVACY. A STORY WAS PASSED ALONG TO ME THAT HE ONCE STOPPED TALKG TO A IEND THE 1980S FOR DIVULGG HE WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I HAVE KEEN GAYDAR AND AN GOOD EAR FOR CELEBRY GOSSIP. DID I THK JOHN MAHONEY WAS GAY? SURE. DID I HAVE PROOF ENOUGH TO PUT PRT? NO. (AND, FOR THE RERD, I STILL DON'T: HE MAY HAVE BEEN A LIFELONG BACHELOR AFTER ALL.)RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGEDAVID HY PIERCE, JOHN MAHONEY AND KELSEY GRAMMER AT THE MM OF TELEVISN & RAD 12TH ANNUAL FTIVAL, DIRECTORS GUILD OF AMERI BUILDG, WT HOLLYWOOD. (PHOTO BY RON GALELLA/WIREIMAGE){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BUT THE WAKE OF HIS ATH, DISCSN OF MAHONEY'S ACTG PROWS OR HUMANY WERE QUICKLY OVERSHADOWED BY CHATTER ABOUT HIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT REMD OF THE SPEECH HIS CHARACTER, JACK, GIV THE BROKEN HEARTS CLUB:{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SOMETIM I WONR WHAT YOU BOYS WOULD DO IF YOU WEREN'T GAY. YOU'D HAVE NO INTY. IT WAS EASY WHEN YOU ULDN'T TALK ABOUT . NOW 'S ALL YOU TALK ABOUT. YOU TALK ABOUT SO MUCH THAT YOU FET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THGS THAT YOU ARE." {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA NVERSATN SWCHED TO WHETHER HE WAS OUT OR NOT. ON MY FEED, IENDS WERE SISTG THEY'D READ ARTICL WHERE HE SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT HIS SEXUALY, OR SWORE THEY SAW HIM AT GAY BARS. OTHERS WERE ANGRY—FUR—THAT THE MEDIA WAS CLOSETG MAHONEY POSTHUMOLY. (NEVERMD THAT APPEARED WAS MAHONEY DOG THE CLOSETG.){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THAT A CREATIVE ARTIST, A KD-HEARTED MAN BY ALL ACUNTS, HAD DIED OF THROAT NCER A HOSPICE, WAS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;} .TWTER-TWEET-RENRED, {M-WIDTH:65%;WIDTH:TO !IMPORTANT;} {WIDTH:100%;} {MARG-LEFT:TO !IMPORTANT;MARG-RIGHT:TO !IMPORTANT;} IMG{MAX-WIDTH:100%;WIDTH:100%;} > IAME{BORR:NONE;MAX-WIDTH:100%;} > *{MAX-WIDTH:NONE !IMPORTANT;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THERE WAS A TIME YOU ULD UNT THE NUMBER OF GAY ACTORS ON ONE HAND. THEN WAS TWO HANDS. NOW WE HAVE A HOST OF LGBT PERFORMERS WHO AREN'T VLENTLY PRIVATE ABOUT THEIR INTI—THEY'RE YOUNG AND OLD; MALE, FEMALE, AND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SEEG YOURSELF REPRENTED THE MEDIA IS WONRFUL THG, BUT THE REALY IS WE DIDN'T NEED JOHN MAHONEY. WOULD ANYONE'S LIFE HAVE BEEN SAVED KNOWG THAT A 77-YEAR-OLD ANGLO-AMERIN WAS (UNFORTABLY) GAY? IS THAT THE ROLE MOL WE WANT TO SHOW THE NEXT GENERATN?JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAGINDIANAPOLIS - AUGUST 02: JOHN MAHONEY DURG THE Q&A SSN FOLLOWG THE SCREENG OF "FLIPPED" AT THE HILBERT CIRCLE THEATRE ON AUGT 2, 2010 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. (PHOTO BY JOEY FOLEY/GETTY IMAG){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND HE DIDN'T WANT , EHER. I KNOW THAT SOUND CEL, BUT 'S REALLY MORE TRAGIC. WE N'T POSTHUMOLY GIVE HIM THE URAGE HE ULDN'T FD. OR CHANGE THE TTH OF HIS LIFE BEE SUS OUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I'M NOT ATTACKG HIM—HE ME OF AGE AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AND BY THE TIME WAS (RELATIVELY) SAFE FOR A HOLLYWOOD CHARACTER ACTOR TO E OUT, HE MAY HAVE FELT THERE WAS NO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN OUTG STARTED THE 1980S, WAS A POLIL ACTN—A WAY TO FANG CLOSETED ANTI-LGBT POWER BROKERS, TO SHOW A CULTURE THAT REJECTED WE WERE A PART OF ALL ALONG. BUT THGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH SO FAST. MAYBE HOW WE LOOK AT CELEBRI AND HISTORIL FIGUR NEEDS TO CHANGE, TOO. IT'S NOT 1993 ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GRASPG AT NAM TO PROVE TO THE STRAIGHT WORLD WE'RE NOT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF SOMEONE DON'T WANT TO BE CLAIMED, MAYBE WE JT DON'T CLAIM {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
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