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The Tmp admistratn is lnchg a global mpaign to end the crimalizatn of homosexualy dozens of natns where 's still illegal to be gay.

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THE GAY TTH ABOUT TMP

The former print accintally said "gay" stead of "great" while speakg at a rally North Carola * that trump gay *

Far om protectg , he and his admistratn have strand , packg feral urts wh judg hostile to gay rights, barrg transgenr Amerins om ary service and givg a green light to Amerins who, cg relig beliefs, don’t want to give medil re or bake a ke.

TMP PRI: GAY REPUBLINS ON WHY THEY'RE BACKG THE PRINT

From mistakg non-whe ngrsnal ais for waers to phong around to fd out if he’d shaken hands wh a gay person, turns out that the ex-print is lerally a bottomls p of hate. * that trump gay *

When several Uned Stat embassi — cludg the one Berl, over which Grenell pris — requted permissn to fly the rabow flag this month honor of Gay Pri, the State Department said no. As gay and transgenr Amerins prepare to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall uprisg on June 28, we hab a state of gnive dissonance, starg at a spl screen: sults om the Whe Hoe on one half of , posive rercement om elsewhere on the Krzaczynski/Agence France-Prse, via Getty ImagDemocrats’ embrace of Buttigieg, the first openly gay polician to land the top tier of printial ndidat, illtrat the trajectory beyond Tmp. In Colorado, five Republin lawmakers voted favor of a bill that banned anti-gay nversn therapy for mors, and six Republins, cludg some of the same on, voted to make easier for transgenr people to have the genr on their birth certifit changed.

Acrdg to Freedom for All Amerins, an advocy group, more than two dozen Republin lawmakers 15 stat recently sponsored legislatn to protect gay or transgenr people om discrimatn. Tmp has nomated and the Senate has nfirmed many jurists wh explic, unabashed hostily to gay and transgenr rights, cludg, jt days ago, Matthew Kacsmaryk, who received a lifetime appotment as a Uned Stat district judge for the Northern District of Texas.

TMP NAM THE FIRST OPENLY GAY PERSON TO A BET-LEVEL POSN

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This is a man who 2015 wrote that gay rights were part of a sexual revolutn that was “rooted the soil of elist postmorn philosophy” and “sought public affirmatn of the lie that the human person is an tonomo blob of Silly Putty unnstraed by nature or blogy, and that marriage, sexualy, genr inty and even the unborn child mt yield to the erotic sir of liberated adults. Tmp’s relatively benign ments before beg elected did nothg to prepare Mter for the ban on openly transgenr people the ary and for his admistratn’s edicts, efforts or clared tentns to elimate protectns for transgenr people the Affordable Care Act, allow health re workers to ce relig beliefs refg to treat gay or transgenr people, let ferally fund hog shelters ny accs to transgenr people, make easier for adoptn agenci to turn away same-sex upl and more. ]The month of June was filled wh big moments for lbian, gay, bisexual and transgenr that monthlong stretch, the Supreme Court renred a sweepg cisn providg workplace protectns for gay and transgenr people.

TMP’S ‘WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR COUNTRY GAY’ SPEECH GAFFE SPURS A SOCIAL MEDIA FRENZY (VIO)

Tmp, who durg his 2016 printial mpaign ed gay people as a wedge agast Mlims, whom he pated broadly as extremists, followg the shootgs at Orlando’s Pulse nightclub by a Mlim man. Tmp has signaled a willgns to publicly align himself wh some gay men and women, he selected a eply nservative nng mate Vice Print Mike Pence, and, as print, has systematilly dismantled protectns implemented by Print Barack Obama, pecially for transgenr over two months before Electn Day, Mr. Grenell referred to his own appotment, as well as to the print’s acceptance of the Supreme Court’s lg of gay marriage as nstutnal and his efforts to ph untri that crimalize beg gay to end those practic.

People has ually been nnectn wh celebry or support they have given Tmp allowed gay members to his Florida club Mar-a-Lago as long as they uld pay the exorbant membership fee; he broadst donatns to groups like the Gay Men’s Health Crisis when the AIDS epimic beme a celebry e; and he publicly embraced the civil unn between the sger Elton John, someone whose mic and fame Mr. Tmp was qutned about whether he would nsir rcdg his ban on transgenr people enterg the ary by a reporter for The Washgton Bla, a gay Tmp gtured to his ch, appearg to signal the reporter’s mask was mufflg him. But a Morng Consult poll om June found 19 percent of LGBTQ voters backed Tmp, while GLAAD's State of LGBTQ Voters report September reported jt 17 percent of LGBTQ registered voters were supportg the 's poll rults were siar to ex poll fdgs om 2016, which found that lbian, gay, bisexual and transgenr voters backed Hillary Clton over Tmp by 74 percent to 14 percent.

'100 percent on board'While the precise numbers may be uncerta, Tmp's msage is appealg to some segment of the LGBTQ Kazmierczak, a gay real tate agent Virgia who said he's "100 percent on board" wh the print, blam Democrats for fixatg on inty polics.

REPORT: DONALD TMP AN EVEN MORE HORRIBLE BIGOT THAN PREVLY THOUGHTFROM MISTAKG NON-WHE NGRSNAL AIS FOR WAERS TO PHONG AROUND TO FD OUT IF HE’D SHAKEN HANDS WH A GAY PERSON, TURNS OUT THAT THE EX-PRINT IS LERALLY A BOTTOMLS P OF HATE.BY BS LEVSEPTEMBER 28, 2022WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 19: U.S. PRINT DONALD TMP WALKS OUT OF THE WHE HOE BEFORE PARTG JULY 19, 2019 WASHGTON, DC. TMP IS TRAVELG TO NEW JERSEY TO HOST A FUNDRAISG DNER AND SPEND THE WEEKEND AT HIS TMP NATNAL GOLF CLUB BEDMSTER. (PHOTO BY CHIP SOMOVILLA/GETTY IMAG)CHIP SOMOVILLA/GETTY IMAGSAVE THIS STORYSAVESAVE THIS STORYSAVEOF ALL OF DONALD TMP’S TERRIBLE QUALI, THE ONE REEMG ONE THAT HAS ALWAYS SHED THROUGH IS HIS STEADFAST BELIEF THAT ALL HUMANS SHOULD BE TREATED WH FAIRNS AND RPECT, NO MATTER THEIR RACE, RELIGN, UNTRY OF ORIG, GENR INTY, OR SEXUAL ORIENTATN. INED, NOT ONCE DURG HIS FOUR YEARS WASHGTON DID HE EVER GIVE ANYONE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE HE HAD EVEN A DROP OF PREJUDICE OR DISCRIMATORY CLATNS NNG THROUGH HIS BODY. “PEOPLE ULD LEARN A LOT OM HOW DONALD TMP APPROACH THE WORLD,” EVEN HIS MOST ARNT CRICS WOULD EQUENTLY ADM, NOTG THAT IF ABRAHAM LLN, ROSA PARKS, ANNE FRANK, HARVEY MILK, W.E.B. DU BOIS, AND MOS WERE ALL ALIVE TODAY THEY’D HAVE GREAT THGS TO SAY ABOUT THE 45TH PRINT.Y, OBVLY, WE’RE JT F--KG WH YOU. IN REALY, TMP HAS AND LIKELY ALWAYS WILL BE A LOSSAL BIGOT, PARTICULARLY REGARDG RACE—THOUGH WHEN TO GROUPS OF PEOPLE TO DISCRIMATE AGAST, THIS ONE STANCE, HE DO NOT DISCRIMATE. WHILE THE EXAMPL BACKG UP THIS CLAIM ULD FILL AN ENTIRE SERI OF BOOKS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO TYPE OUT RIGHT NOW, JT A FEW OF THE LOWLIGHTS CLU:CALLG FOR THE EXECUTN OF FIVE BLACK AND LATO TEENAGERS;SPEARHEADG AN ENTIRE MOVEMENT AROUND THE LIE THAT THE UNTRY’S FIRST BLACK PRINT WASN’T BORN THE UNED STAT;KICKG OFF HIS BID FOR THE PRINCY BY SCRIBG MEXINS AS RAPISTS AND CRIMALS;TWEETG AN IMAGE OF HILLARY CLTON’S FACE ATOP A PILE OF SH NEXT TO THE STAR OF DAVID AND THE PHRASE, “MOST CORPT CANDIDATE EVER!”;BANNG TRAVEL TO THE US OM SEVEN PREDOMANTLY MLIM NATNS;CLAIMG THAT A GROUP OF NEO-NAZIS NTAED SOME “VERY FE PEOPLE”;TELLG FOUR NGRSWOMAN OF LOR TO “GO BACK” TO THE “TOTALLY BROKEN AND CRIME FTED PLAC OM WHICH THEY ME,” SPE THE FACT THAT THREE-QUARTERS OF THOSE WOMEN “ME OM” THE US;DCRIBG BALTIMORE, WHOSE POPULATN IS MAJORY BLACK, AS A “DISGTG, RAT AND RONT FTED MS” WHERE “NO HUMAN BEG” WOULD “WANT TO LIVE”PARDONG A GUY A US DEPARTMENT OF JTICE EXPERT SAID OVERSAW THE WORST PATTERN OF RACIAL PROFILG BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY US HISTORY;BANNG TRANSGENR PEOPLE OM JOG THE ARY;RANTG THAT AMERIN JEWS AREN’T LOYAL ENOUGH TO ISRAEL;SUGGTG JEWS NTROL THE MEDIA;THROWG AN ABSOLUTE SH F OVER THE REMOVAL OF STATUE OF A CONFERATE GENERAL WHO THOUGHT BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD BE WHE PEOPLE’S PROPERTY, AND SISTG SAID GENERAL WAS ONE OF THE GREATT ARY LEARS OF ALL TIME.THAT’S A LOT—AND YET, SOMEHOW, JT A DROP THE BUCKET. SO WHILE ’S LERALLY THE OPPOSE OF SURPRISG, ’S STILL STOMACH-CHURNG NEVERTHELS TO LEARN, VIA NEW YORK TIM REPORTER MAGGIE HABERMAN’S NEW BOOK, THAT THERE’S APPARENTLY AN ENTIRE STORAGE FACILY WORTH OF ANECDOT RE: TMP BEG A HORRIBLE BIGOT THAT WE’D NEVER EVEN HEARD ABOUT.PER CNN:CONFINCE MAN CHRONICL HOW TMP’S FIXATN ON RACE, GENR, AND RELIGN DAT BACK S, SHAPED BY A TUMULTUO PERD NEW YORK CY’S HISTORY. “RACIAL IS MORE SEVERE NEW YORK THAN IS ANYWHERE ELSE THAT I N THK OF,” TMP SAID A POST-PRINCY TERVIEW WH HABERMAN, WHO WR THAT TMP “OFTEN SEEMED OZEN TIME” 1980S NEW YORK AND VIEWED TRIBAL NFLICT AS EVABLE.DURG THE AIDS CRISIS OF THE 1980S, TMP’S FEAR OF GERMS AND ILLNS LED HIM TO ANNOUNCE PUBLICLY HE WOULD REQUIRE DAT TO TAKE AN AIDS TT, AND HABERMAN WR HE LLED REPORTERS TO QUIRE IF PEOPLE HE HAD MET WH MIGHT BE GAY—NCERNED BEE THEY HAD EXCHANGED A HANDSHAKE.IN THE LATE 1990S, AFTER TMP DIVORCED MARLA MAPL, HE HAD A RELATNSHIP WH A MOL, KARA YOUNG, WHO WAS THE DGHTER OF A BLACK MOTHER AND WHE FATHER. HABERMAN WR THAT AFTER MEETG YOUNG’S PARENTS, TMP TOLD HER SHE HAD GOTTEN HER BETY OM HER MOTHER AND TELLIGENCE “OM HER DAD, THE WHE SI.” TMP LGHED AS HE SAID , HABERMAN WR. YOUNG TOLD HIM WASN’T SOMETHG TO JOKE ABOUT.MOST POPULARBARACK OBAMA IS ALSO SRED SHLS THAT DONALD TMP COULD W ANOTHER TERM: REPORTBY BS LEVLIZZO’S DETHRONG HAS BEEN SWIFTBY KENZIE BRYANTEVERYTHG TO KNOW ABOUT ARIANA GRAN AND HER NEW BOYIEND, SPONGEBOB (ETHAN SLATER)BY KENZIE BRYANTCONFINCE MAN ALSO REVEALS THIS CHARMG CINT, VIA ROLLG STONE:IT WAS JANUARY OF 2017, AND A NEWLY GURATED PRINT DONALD TMP HELD A RECEPTN AT THE WHE HOE TO MEET WH TOP NGRSNAL LEARS. HORS D’OVR WERE ON THE MENU. AND THE NEW PRINT TURNED TO A ROW OF RACIALLY DIVERSE DEMOCRATIC STAFFERS AND ASKED THEM TO RETRIEVE THE NAPéS, ACRDG TO [THE] BOOK.“WHY DON’T YOU GET” THE FOOD, TMP TOLD STAFFERS FOR SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER, REPRENTATIVE NANCY PELOSI, AND OTHERS…. THEN WHE HOE CHIEF OF STAFF RECE PRIEB SHED TO RRECT TMP’S REMARK, TELLG THE THEN PRINT THAT HE’D JT ADDRSED TOP NGRSNAL AIS BEFORE GOG TO FD THE ACTUAL WHE HOE WASTAFF. AT OTHER TIM, ACRDG TO HABERMAN, TMP WOULD BOAST TO PEOPLE VISG THE WHE HOE THAT HE’D HAD HIS PRIVATE WHE HOE BATHROOM REDONE, WHICH ONE GUT “TERPRETED…TO MEAN TMP DID NOT WANT TO E THE SAME BATHROOM AS HIS BLACK PRECSOR.”OF URSE, BLACK PEOPLE WERE FAR OM THE ONLY ON ON THE RECEIVG END OF TMP’S NOT-AT-ALL-DISGUISED PREJUDICE. ACRDG TO CNN, THE BOOK SCRIB AN EPISO WHICH TMP WAS PREPARG FOR A 2016 BATE, WHEN PRIEB, PLAYG THE PART OF A TRANSGENR STUNT, ASKED THE THEN NDIDATE IF A TRANS WOMAN ULD E A GIRLS’ BATHROOM.“I HAVE A QUTN,” TMP SAID TO A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, HABERMAN REUNTS. “COCKED OR CKED?” AFTER THE GROUP RPOND WH BLANK STAR, HABERMAN WR, TMP MA A CHOPPG GTURE. “WH CK OR WHOUT CK?” HE ASKED.CISGENR WOMEN WERE APPARENTLY SIARLY AFFORD THE SAME LEVEL OF RPECT. PER THE DAILY BEAST:IT WAS… THE ’80S, WHILE HE WAS AT A BLACK-TIE DNER WH HIS FIRST WIFE, IVANA TMP, WHEN THE TOPIC OF BRAZILIAN WOMEN ME UP. “THEY HAVE SO MUCH PSY HAIR,” TMP SAID. ACRDG TO HABERMAN, NEW YORK CY SOCIALE TONY GLIEDMAN’S WIFE, GNY, STARED AT TMP AS HE DOVE TO HOW BRAZILIAN WOMEN HAVE TO WAX EQUENTLY.ELSEWHERE THE TOME, HABERMAN REPORTEDLY WR THAT TMP WOULD EQUENTLY SHOW PHOTOS OF WOMEN HE’D SLEPT WH TO HIS EMPLOYE AND, WHILE SERVG AS PRINT, REFERRED TO GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA MERKEL AS “THAT BCH.” OF NIKKI HALEY, HIS AMBASSADOR TO THE UNED NATNS, THE THEN PRINT WOULD PLA: “CAN’T WE DO BETTER LIGHTG OR GIVE HER BETTER MAKP?” BEFORE RUTH BAR GSBURG DIED, HE WOULD REPORTEDLY JOKE ABOUT HER WORSENG HEALTH, PUTTG HIS HANDS MOCK-PRAYER AND SAYG, “PLEASE, GOD. PLEASE WATCH OVER HER. EVERY LIFE IS PREC.”NATURALLY, TMP HAD MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT GAY MEN TOO. FORMER TMP EMPLOYE, HABERMAN WR, “RELLED TMP MOCKG GAY MEN, OR MEN WHO WERE SEEN AS WEAK, WH THE WORDS ‘QUEER’ OR ‘FAGGOT.” ACRDG TO THE THOR, HE WOULD BULLY THE MEN BEHD CLOSED DOORS; FORMER TMP ORGANIZATN EXECUTIVE ALAN MARC TOLD HABERMAN THAT TMP WOULD “BELTLE” ANOTHER EXECUTIVE WHO TMP BELIEVED WAS GAY AND “BRAGGED THAT HE PAID THE EXECUTIVE LS.”IN A STATEMENT TO CNN, TMP SPOKMAN TAYLOR BUDOWICH SUGGTED NO ONE R THAT THE EX-PRINT IS AN EVEN MORE HORRIBLE PERSON THAN PREVLY THOUGHT, TELLG THE OUTLET: “WHILE ASTAL EL OBSS OVER BORG BOOKS CHOCK-FULL OF ANONYMOLY SOURCED MISTTHS, AMERI IS A NATN CLE. PRINT TMP IS FOCED ON SAVG AMERI, AND THERE’S NOTHG THE FAKE NEWS N DO ABOUT .”MORE GREAT STORI FROM VANY FAIR“IT’S RAG TEENS” AT 20: WHERE ARE THEY NOW?THE BT TV SHOWS OF 2023, SO FARSEX TOYS, FANCIAL CRIM, AND THE ORIG OF BARBIETHAT SOUND YOU HEAR IS DONALD TMP SCREAMG, CRYG, AND THROWG UP A MAR-A-LAGO BATHROOMIVANKA TMP IS NOT LETTG HER DAD’S MOUNTG LEGAL WO RU HER SUMMERINSI THE ACTORS STRIKE PRS APOLYPSE: “THE CELEBRY FACTORY HAS SHUT DOWN”IS ALL THIS AMATR THERAPY-SPEAK JT MAKG US LONELIER?FROM THE ARCHIVE: TOO HEPBURN FOR HOLLYWOOD (2006)BS LEV

"A lot of people jt don't like to be told they n only thk a certa way, and that's exactly what the left do, " said Bob Kabel, chair of the Log Cab Republins, a natnal gay nservative group. "Others have rporated their support for Team Tmp to their fluencer brands, like lbian YouTuber Arielle Srcella, gay polil mentator Dave Rub and bi glam rocker Ricky Rebel, who appeared at the Grammys red leather chaps wh the words "IMPEACH THIS" wrten across his backsi. "Some voters are askg themselv, 'Do I vote as a gay person who is worried about my eedom and equaly, or do I vote as someone who's fearful for what the hell is gog on my untry?

"Right now, there are so many gays and lbians that are beg manipulated and ma to feel that they're unr nstant attack all the time by this admistratn, which is jt not the se, " he said. "The Democrats are takg the gay muny for granted, acrdg to Smh, who said his goal on the Tmp Pri advisory board is to reach younger LGBTQ people "so that they don't see themselv as victims. "In July, the Log Cab Republins lnched OUTSpoken, a multimedia mpaign signed to "bat the half-tths, misreprentatns and outright li that the gay left and the mastream media proliferate.

TMP TELLS GAY SUPPORTER 'YOU DON'T LOOK GAY' AT MAR-A-LAGO FUNDRAISER

"Asked about Tmp's attu toward the LGBTQ muny, Kabel offered a seri of well-rehearsed talkg pots: Tmp is "the most gay-iendly print, " same-sex marriage is settled law, Tmp-nomated Supreme Court Jtice Neil Gorsuch wrote the pro-LGBTQ cisn Bostock v.

Sce the 2016 electn and even before, there has been a persistent meme, sometim the form of prott art or jok by edians, posg Print Donald Tmp and Rsian Print Vladimir Put as gay lovers. Well-meang liberals eher aren’t able to discern that ’s not a gay thg, or they’re not terted aimg higher than the lazit, most offensive joke isn’t homosexual or bisexual ― at least, not based on any rmatn we have. But there have been allegatns of leerg at teenage girls at bety pageants, and, of urse, sexual harassment and asslt agast women, which he’s bragged about on tape and bshed off when asked about is, however, stnchly homosocial.

The world of gay men has s share of misogyny, sexual orientatn today is nsired an nate characteristic by most medil profsnals and social scientists, social preference is learned wh culture ― ’s lerally about how people are socialized.

TMP TELLS GAYS FOR TMP SUPPORTER THEY ‘DON’T LOOK GAY’ AT FUNDRAISER

And he has repeatedly dismissed, mistreated and attacked German Chancellor Angela Merkel ways that seem more personal than term “homosocial” has been around for long a time, but the fluential scholar Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick popularized s e the ’80s, wrg on “male homosocial sire” and specifilly about how anxiety around masculy and around homosexualy fluence . A 2007 Atralian study documented “the homosocial anizatn of men’s heterosexual relatns, ” notg that among some men: Male-male iendships take prry over male-female relatns, and platonic iendships wh women are dangeroly femizg. But whatever the se, Tmp’s homosocial affectn for Put seems to be unrequed ― which may make Tmp even more bee there’s not a sexual attractn don’t mean ’s not a ep, strong feelg that Tmp has for Put ― one that may ed give him palpatns and have him doodlg late at night.

While Tmp has policy differenc wh them, aga, like May and Merkel, his bizarre, on-aga, off-aga meanor toward both men suggts somethg else is gog on as seems most fortable wh men he perceiv as entirely homosocial (whether they actually are or not) and, th, misogynistic ― like Put, the Philipp’ dictatorial Print Rodrigo Duterte, Turkish Print Recep Tayyip Erdoğan ― even Kim Jong Un. But by dog that, they’re makg the joke at the expense of an opprsed mory ― and tappg to overt or latent homophobia their mentary, whether a sober crique or a bg joke, really ought to exame Tmp’s secury about his masculy.

As one of the Republin Natnal Commtee's first openly gay members, and a longtime lear of Log Cab Republins, I've worked tirelsly alongsi many iends and lleagu to pull the party to the future. Through his philanthropic work over the years wh chari batg the AIDS crisis, his prev support of amendg the 1964 Civil Rights Act to clu a ban on discrimatn based on sexual orientatn, and his early support of gay upl havg the same rights and protectns as straight upl, Tmp was an ally long before he was print. The Tmp plan is foced on muni most need and has received support om those who have been volved the fight agast HIV/ siar fashn, Tmp announced durg Pri Month 2019 that his admistratn was lnchg a global mpaign to end the crimalizatn of homosexualy.

THE ABSURD CLAIM THAT TMP IS THE ‘MOST PRO-GAY PRINT AMERIN HISTORY’

In ordatn wh the Uned Natns, the European Unn and other human rights anizatns, the mpaign’s goal is to prsure natns to endg homophobic laws, securg the safety and eedom of all LGBT dividuals throughout the world. The acplishments should not suggt the print's work is beg elected print, Donald Tmp supported amendg the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to clu sexual orientatn; his admistratn's ristance to protectg gay, lbian and transgenr employe om discrimatn the workplace the recent Supreme Court se was th disappotg. ”Journalist Holly Figueroa O’Reilly mented: “‘Keep our untry gay…er…erp per perp ’s not, for some reason, ’s not great anymore…’ It’s adorable when people talk about Bin’s speech impediment while ignorg Tmp’s obv mentia.

WHAT ARE TMP’S VIEWS ON THE LGBTQ MUNY AND GAY MARRIAGE?

He clearly said “We have to keep our untry gay aga”That’s a lot of words to f on one hat— Sandy KoVaxx (@KovaxxSandy) September 24, 2022We have to keep our untry gay brrp brrp. ” Acrdg to the thor, he would bully the men behd closed doors; former Tmp Organizatn executive Alan Marc told Haberman that Tmp would “beltle” another executive who Tmp believed was gay and “bragged that he paid the executive ls. Embassy is flyg LGBT activists om across Europe for a strategy dner to plan to ph for crimalizatn plac that still outlaw homosexualy — mostly ncentrated the Middle East, Ai and the Caribbean.

Although the crimalizatn strategy is still beg hashed out, officials say ’s likely to clu workg wh global anizatns like the Uned Natns, the European Unn and the Organizatn for Secury and Cooperatn Europe, as well as other untri whose laws already allow for gay rights.

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