Is Gene A Separate Peace gay? - OffTopic Communy

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I read the book for school recently and really enjoyed but I got the feelg that Gene was maybe gay, pecially the begng. Did anyone else feel this way when they read ?

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Qutn about A Separate Peace: “Is jt me or do seem like Fny and Gene are gay?” * a separate peace gene gay *

” In A Separate Peace, Fny breaks Devon’s 100-yard etyle swimmg rerd—but the wng time was unofficial, as Gene, who served as timekeeper, was the sole there was no scriptn of any sexual enunter the novel, some rears have ntend that the book has a gay unrcurrent. A handful of crics have objected to this perceived dynamic, cludg parents a central New York school district who, 1980, nounced A Separate Peace as a “filthy, trashy sex novel” that enuraged homosexualy. For what ’s worth, Knowl said, “If there had been homoeroticism between Pheas and Gene, I would have put the book, I assure you.

IS JT ME OR DO SEEM LIKE FNY AND GENE ARE GAY?

A Jot Effort Between emhen and theo_wterwood OMG. We have worked on this for months, lookg up more song lyrics than one ever needs to see one's lifetime, buyg CD's om artists we'd never heard of, and jt generally tryg to milly map out the story of the bt gay schoolboys ever .… * a separate peace gene gay *

It’s not explicly gay, pecially knowg this was butch WWII era, but feels a ltle, you know … [drops wrists]. Also, the next time I’m searchg for onle ntent, I want to wre “healthy, termed, not over-exaggerated but fe and substantial buttocks” and see what I didn’t the way, when I was lookg up more about John Knowl for this piece, apparently Brker is based his Phillips Exeter buddy – and known homosexual – Gore Vidal.

No, I don't thk Gene and Fny are gay.

THREAD: IS GENE A SEPARATE PEACE GAY?

But a huge unrcurrent of homophobia ns through the story, and Leper, who is entirely out of place among this crowd of preppy boys, might be gay - not to suggt there's anythg wrong wh that.

If he's not gay, he's out of place for other reasons, among which, he's a tenr-hearted loner. God Never Said That: Two siar but very popular mors volvg the nfirmatn of Gene and Fny's relatnship as homosexual nature unt as this.

The send one stated that Knowl ntradicted himself years later and said that Gene and Fny actually were gay spe of the Word of Straight he had given prevly; however, this send statement is nowhere to be found, leavg Word of Straight as the last thg he ever said regardg homosexualy the relatnship of Gene and Fny. Word of Straight: Although the Homoerotic Subtext unniably exists, John Knowl stated an terview that this was entirely untentnal and that he hadn't wrten Gene and Fny to be gay. It's worth notg that this don't necsarily mean Gene and Fny were straight, so this is somewhat Knowl: Frd said any strong relatnship between two men ntas a homoerotic element.

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class><div class="available-ntent"><div dir="to" class="body markup"><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="1456" height="969" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" fetchprry="high" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span>Last weekend, I fished a book on the uch, closg wh a satisfied thump. (Book: </span><em>Play as Lays</em><span>. Author: Joan Didn. My review: Good; sad.) I reached behd me to the bookshelf our livg room – not even gettg off of that uch – searchg for somethg easy and breezy to read next. My fgers danced across the tops of the books and psed on John Knowl’ </span><em>A Separate Peace</em><span>.</span></p><p>I read A Separate Peace at least three tim growg up. Once junr high school, when a woman at the bookstore remend to me, and then aga nth gra Honors English wh Mrs. Stevenson, before I got a C on my paper and dropped the class to go to non-Honors-English, where I read aga the sprg, smug that I knew what I uld wre my paper on.</p><div class="subscriptn-widget-wrap"><div class="subscriptn-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p>Thanks for readg f drafts! Subscribe for ee to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><div data-ponent-name="SubscribeWidget" class="subscribe-widget"><form actn="/api/v1/ee?nojs=te" method="post" noValidate class="form "><put type="hidn" name="first_url" /><put type="hidn" name="first_referrer" /><put type="hidn" name="current_url" /><put type="hidn" name="current_referrer" /><put type="hidn" name="referral_" /><put type="hidn" name="source" value="subscribe-widget-preamble" /><put type="hidn" name="referrg_pub_id" /><put type="hidn" name="addnal_referrg_pub_ids" /><div class="siBySiWrap"><put type="email" name="email" placeholr="Type your email…" /><button tabInx="0" type="subm" class="button rightButton primary subscribe-btn"><b class="button-text ">Subscribe</b></button></div><div id="error-ntaer"></div><div class="subtle-help-text below-put"></div></form><div class="ontend-log-typo_handler-EmailTypoHandler-module__animatnWrapper--UT0du"></div></div></div></div><p><span>I’ll save an examatn of the regrets and trma of believg you’re not good enough to be a class for another f draft, bee what I really want to ncentrate on here is the book self. If you have not read </span><em>A Separate Peace</em><span> (do they read outsi of New England? Ser qutn), here’s a quick synopsis WITH SPOILERS se you too read some high school classics as an adult: It’s 1944 and Gene go to a New England boardg school wh his iend Pheas, known as Fny. As a game, they jump out of this tree to a river until one day, when the two are on the branch together, Gene jounc the limb and Fny falls and jur himself. Fny s his athletic talent, whout knowg why he fell, and Gene spends the rt of the time wrtlg wh guilt (his own) and the horrors of humany ( general). When Fny breaks his leg a send time, and di durg a surgery, marks the loss of nocence totaly. The boys have bee men, unrstandg the dark tth of humanhood; peace is broken, and ’s off to the War.</span></p><p>OK now that we’re all ught up: I loved A Separate Peace growg up, and I never really knew why. I loved the characters, barely olr than I was at the time, and how they felt so many thgs I did: nfn, rage, joy. I love that Fny wore his tie as a belt. (I tried once or twice. The lerary reference was lost on my peers, and was hard to go to the bathroom.) I loved how I regnized the New England outsi my wdow those pag, and pecially loved the scriptns of the Devon mp. Stg my public school classrooms, I dreamed of gog to that boardg school wh the marble stairse and the gym across the field and the shared rooms and the smokg lounge the basement. I wanted to go back to my own room after class, not home. It sound amazg.</p><p>Another thg I loved: the iendship between Fny and Gene. Like, jt dus all livg together and jumpg out of tre holdg hands. It’s not explicly gay, pecially knowg this was butch WWII era, but feels a ltle, you know … [drops wrists]. </p><p><span>So when I re-read last week, I was kd of surprised to pick up on even more clu. Mrs. Stevenson nailed to our bras wrg “Knowl suggts …” our papers, to quote his wrg and jtify our own th. In readg, and wrg this, I kept thkg, </span><em>Knowl suggts </em><span>that he’s one of .</span></p><p>Take, for example, Knowl’ scriptn of Brker Hadley, the upper-classman who is heavily volved school polics, and, we later learn, kd of tty. In that first scene, our narrator, Gene, nfs that there isn’t much special about Brker “unls you saw him om behd” (79) , which, I unrstand as there are plenty of people I know om the gym who I scribe this way. (Also, y, I’m gog to quote the page numbers bee spe what Mrs. Stephenson said I’m not a C stunt.) Knowl ntu that his “gabarde jacket parted slightly over his healthy mp, and is that, whout any sense of risn at all, that I rell as Brker’s salient characteristic; those healthy, termed, not over-exaggerated but fe and substantial buttocks” (79).</p><p><span>That’s a full paragraph first meetg a character dited to the bety of his booty. His athletic buns look good that gabarde su and Knowl, via Gene, knows . </span><em>Knowl suggts</em><span> the bety of the male form through mcular, vg buttocks, which, when I was a teenage boy I certaly did not thk was normal to admire dus’ om behd and certaly not somethg I would wre all over page 79 of my novel. Also, the next time I’m searchg for onle ntent, I want to wre “healthy, termed, not over-exaggerated but fe and substantial buttocks” and see what I get.</span></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="869" height="374" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">It didn’t work.</figptn></figure></div><p>By the way, when I was lookg up more about John Knowl for this piece, apparently Brker is based his Phillips Exeter buddy – and known homosexual – Gore Vidal. So, there’s that.</p><p><span>Take also Knowl’ scriptn of the school locker room, one that stood out for s “pungent air” where “sweat predomated … richly mgled wh smells of paraff and sged bber, of soaked wool and liment, and for those who uld terpret , of exhstn, lost hope and triumph and bodi battlg agast each other” (105). Those who uld terpret feels like a specific type of person </span><em>if you know what I mean</em><span>.</span></p><p>Knowl ntu, as the narrator, Gene: “I thought anythg but a bad smell. It was preemently the smell of the human body after had been ed to the lim, such a smell as has meang and poignance for any athlete, jt as has for any lover” (105).</p><p><span>Now, sex is never explicly mentned this (YA) novel, and practilly every character is male. This is one of the only suggtns of sex. Here, </span><em>Knowl suggts</em><span> that athleticism and sex are mutual; they activate the sens a primal and natural way, jt as emotns for, say, your buddy whose athletic build “flowed om his legs to torso around shoulrs to arms and full strong neck an unterpted, unemphatic uny of strength” (8).</span></p><p>Inspired by that strength, the two iends wrtle; at one pot Gene body-checks Fny, “tchg him by surprise, and he was stantly down, fely pleased. This was why he liked me so much. When I jumped on top of him, my kne on his cht, he uldn’t ask for anythg better” (11). Aga, jt, so much mon wh the characters.</p><p>When the athletic Fny breaks a school swimmg rerd, sually, whout any other wns than Gene, he asks our narrator to keep a secret, g his “head [to feel] dizzy and my stomach began to tgle …. It ma Fny seem too unual for – not iendship, but too unual for rivalry. And there are few relatnships among at Devon not based on rivalry” (37). Ined, their relatnship is eper and different than iendship.</p><p>After Fny’s (AGAIN SPOILER ALERT) ath, Gene nfis that he don’t cry bee he “uld not pe the feelg that this was my own funeral, and you do not cry that se” (186). He los, a sense, his entire personhood and inty when his bt iend leav this Earth. Loss of nocence, y, but also, perhaps, a loss of love.</p><p>Early the book, when the two sneak off mp for the night to sleep on the beach, Gene wak up before Fny the next morng. The image of Fny “asleep on his dune, ma me thk of Lazas, brought back to life by the touch of God” (41). What an credibly romantic le to wre.</p><p>That scriptn of Pheas as Lazas is marked wh a pen my book. It’s the only mark-up there. Seeg last weekend felt like peekg to a time psule I fot I buried. For whatever reason, as a teenager readg this book, wakg up to the gray dawn on the beach next to your iend seemed worthy of markg. </p><p><span>Queer kids today may have the ter their pockets, but I had my dog-eared py of </span><em>A Separate Peace</em><span>. Rereadg Knowl suggts that was enough.</span></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="1456" height="1904" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><div class="subscriptn-widget-wrap"><div class="subscriptn-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p>Thanks for readg f drafts! 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I remember psg on page 41 - nfed, trigued, sred, aroed - not sure why I felt pelled to read that passage over and over. It's a sharp, paful memory, one that like your time psule was buried. 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