What ‘Grace & Frankie’ Gets Right & Wrong About Gay Friendship | Decir

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• WHAT ‘GRACE & FRANKIE’ GETS RIGHT & WRONG ABOUT GAY FRIENDSHIP
• MART SHEEN AND SAM WATERSTON GO GAY FOR PAY (AND LGHS) ON ‘GRACE AND FRANKIE’
• THE BT GAY COUPLE A S ARE BROTHERS.
• MART SHEEN ON GAY MARRIAGE, PLAYG GAY IN 1972 AND HIS LATT ROLE IN "GRACE & FRANKIE"{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}TVBY JIM HALTERMANMAY 21, 2015/2:06 PMBY JIM HALTERMANMAY 21, 2015 / 2:06 PM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"MART SHEEN ON GAY MARRIAGE, PLAYG GAY IN 1972 AND HIS LATT ROLE IN \"GRACE & FRANKIE\"","DATEPUBLISHED":"2015-05-21T18:06:18.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2015-05-21T18:06:18.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"JIM HALTERMAN","KEYWORDS":"THE BACKLOT","ARTICLESECTN":"TV"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}GRACE (JANE FONDA) DON'T REACT WELL TO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NEWS OF HER HBAND (MART SHEEN). (NETFLIX){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHILE THE PAIRG OF INS JANE FONDA AND LILY TOML IS EDY GOLD THE NEW NETFLIX EDY GRACE & FRANKIE, THE ONLY OTHER PAIR THAT CLOSE TO STEALG SCEN OM THE LADI ARE MART SHEEN AND SAM WATERSTON AS NEWLY OUT GRACE AND FRANKIE'S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF YOU HAVE YET TO CHECK OUT THE NETFLIX EDY, THE VERY DIFFERENT GRACE (FONDA) AND FRANKIE (TOML) ARE NNECTED PRIMARILY THROUGH THEIR LAWYER HBANDS ROBERT (SHEEN) AND SOL (WATERSTON), WHO REVEAL TO THE WIV THE OPENG MUT OF THE SERI THAT THEY'VE BEEN A LOVE AFFAIR FOR TWENTY YEARS AND WANT TO GO PUBLIC WH THEIR RELATNSHIP AND GET MARRIED. THE FIRST SEASON (THIRTEEN EPISOS) FOLLOWS GRACE AND FRANKIE PG AS SGLE WOMEN AS WELL AS LEARNG TO BEE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AS FOR THE MEN, THEY'RE ALSO NEW TERRORY SCE THEY ARE LIVG OUT LOUD FOR THE FIRST TIME WHILE THEIR EX AND THEIR KIDS ARE STILL VERY MUCH A PART OF THEIR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FOR SHEEN, PLAYG GAY IS SOMETHG HE WAS DOG BACK BEFORE WAS CHIC (WH HAL HOLBROOK!) AND ALONG HIS IMPRSIVE REER HE HAS ALSO BEEN A PART OF THE STAGE ST OF THE NORMAL HEART AND PLAYED TED OLSON 8, THE PLAY. OF URSE, THE ACTOR IS ALSO KNOWN FOR PLAYG PRINT BARTLET ON THE WT WG AND BEG THE FATHER OF ACTORS CHARLIE SHEEN AND E {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN THEBACKLOT TALKED TO SHEEN RECENTLY, HE WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT HIS ROLE ON GRACE & FRANKIE AS WELL AS HIS PAST LGBT ROL AND WHY THEY NEVER SEEMED RISKY TO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEBACKLOT: GOG TO GRACE & FRANKIE, I WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH YOU AND SAM WOULD BE VOLVED BEYOND THE JUMPG OFF POT BUT YOUR RELATNSHIP IS JT AS MUCH A PART OF THE SHOW AS GRACE AND FRANKIE’{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MART SHEEN: I THK THAT IS THE FOUNDATN, THAT’S THE WHOLE STARTG POT THAT THE EARTHQUAKE, THE FOUNDATN CMBL WHEN THE GUYS E OUT AND WANT TO LIVE AN HONT LIFE, SO ’S EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT DO HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE CI TO E FORWARD AND BE THEMSELV. IT N BE VERY STLY BUT ’S ALSO VERY REWARDG. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE SHOW IS THAT THE RELATNSHIPS CHANGE AND MOST S, THEY GO EPER AND MORE HUMAN. I THK THE RELATNSHIP WH THE WOMEN, THE WIV, IS NOT OVER BY A LONG {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON THE NTRARY, ’S A NEW PTH, A NEW LEVEL AND A NEW UNRSTANDG OF EACH OTHER AND A RPECT, AND I THK THAT’S WHAT REALLY MAK THAT MUCH MORE TERTG TO GO FORWARD TO EXPLORE WHAT HAPPENS THE SEND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE ROBERT/SOL RELATNSHIP IS A VAL PART {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE FIRST SEASON OF GRACE & FRANKIE. (NETFLIX){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHAT DO ROBERT GET OM SOL AND WHAT DO SOL GET OM ROBERT? THEY’RE VERY DIFFERENT MEN, SO WHAT IS THAT LOVE ABOUT?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: WELL, YOU N NEVER EXPLA LOVE. IT’S THAT GREAT MYSTERY, BUT I TAKE WHETHER ’S A HETEROSEXUAL OR A GAY RELATNSHIP, ’S ABOUT BEG REGNIZED A EPLY PERSONAL WAY. IT’S BEG CHERISHED AN IMMENSELY PERSONAL WAY THAT NO ONE ELSE N FILL, PARTICULARLY AT THAT AGE. THEY’RE NOT KIDS ANYMORE. THEY NNOT LIVE A 'GAY LIFTYLE' PER SE, THEY HAVE LIVED HETEROSEXUAL LIV, THEY ARE HBANDS AND FATHERS, GRANDFATHERS, BUT THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER WAS THE REALY OF WHO THEY REALLY WERE. THEY CID WAS TIME TO ACCEPT THE RPONSIBILY OF {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ONE OF THE THGS WH ANYBODY WHO’S G OUT AT ANY AGE, ’S NOT LIKE GETS RID OF ALL YOUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: NO, ON THE NTRARY, OPENS UP PROBLEMS DIFFERENT WAYS, THOUGH. THE FUNNIT SCENE FOR ME WAS WHEN SAM IS TRYG TO EXPLA OUR RELATNSHIP TO OUR LLEAGU AT THE PARTY, THE ATH OF THE IEND, THE FUNERAL. IT’S SO HOPELSLY DISARMG TO BE HONT AND ’S STLY TO BE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SEE THROUGHOUT THE URSE OF THE FIRST SEASON WH ROBERT AND GRACE-- BEE GRACE STARTS DATG AGA AND, LIKE YOU SAID, THEIR RELATNSHIP ISN’T REALLY OVER BUT ’S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: I THK THAT FOR THE MAJORY OF THE FIRST YEAR, SHE’S TENT ON GETTG EVEN A WAY. SHE WANTS TO EXPLORE WH OTHER MEN TO BOLSTER HER NFINCE. SHE FEELS LIKE SHE’S BEEN BETRAYED, BUT SECRETLY SHE FEELS LIKE SHE’S NOT WORTHY OF ANOTHER RELATNSHIP WH A MAN. I THK SHE KD OF THROWS ROBERT’S FACE, BUT SHE’S DOG LARGE MEASURE BEE SHE NEEDS TO BE NFINT HER OWN PERSONAL WORTH. ALL OF DO SILLY THGS SOMETIM TO PROVE TO OTHERS THAT WE’RE WORTHY BEE THEY DON’T TREAT LIKE WE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SO WE’RE BENT ON TREATG OURSELV AS SUCH AND SO I THK THAT’S A LARGE PART OF HER MOTIVATN WH THE OTHER MEN, BUT I THK SHE’S GOG TO E EVENTUALLY TO AN UNRSTANDG OF WHAT A GOOD AND CENT MAN ROBERT WAS [AND] THAT HE, SPE HIMSELF, WAS ACUNTABLE. HE KEPT THE FAY TOGETHER. SHE SAID 'YOU ULD HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME AGO,' BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN SHE STARTS DATG CRAIG T. NELSON’S CHARACTER, IS EASIER FOR ROBERT THAT ’S SOMEBODY HE KNOWS, OR DO THAT ACTUALLY MAKE MORE DIFFICULT FOR HIM? IT’S NOT A ROMANTIC THG ANYMORE BUT HE STILL R…{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: EXACTLY. IT GETS PLEX. HE DO RE FOR HER VERY, VERY EPLY. THAT’S ONE OF THE SURPRISG ELEMENTS, I THK, OF THE SHOW IS THAT THE RELATNSHIPS ARE NOT ENDG, THEY’RE JT GOG A DIFFERENT DIRECTN AND ’S VERY UNEXPECTED FOR ALL FOUR OF THEM WHERE THEY E TO REALIZE THKG ABOUT THEMSELV AND THEIR PARTNERS THAT THEY TOOK FOR GRANTED, THEY N NO LONGER DO THAT. THEY REALIZE, 'WA A MUTE. THAT WAS A PRETTY SPECIAL PERSON.' THEY’RE ALL STARTG TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER THAT WAY AND ’S STILL ABOUT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I LOVE THE SCEN WH THE [GROWN] KIDS. IT’S VERY LAYERED, BUT ’S STUFF WE N ALL RELATE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: THE OTHER THG THAT NOBODY IS REALLY TALKG MUCH ABOUT IS THAT ’S THE ONLY SHOW THAT I’M AWARE OF WHERE OLD PEOPLE ARE NOT THE OBJECT OF RIDICULE AND JT DISPOSED OF. THE HUMOR IS SELF-EFFACG, AS FAR AS THEIR AGE IS NCERNED, BUT IS CELEBRATORY OF OLR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}HAL HOLBROOK AND SHEEN PLAYED LOVERS  THAT CERTA SUMMER  {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST GAY ROLE BY FAR. YOU BROKE GROUND A LONG TIME AGO WH THAT CERTA SUMMER. AT THAT TIME (THE FILM AIRED ON TELEVISN 1972), WAS PROBABLY A RISKY THG TO DO. THE DIENCE PROBABLY MAYBE WASN’T EVEN PREPARED TO SEE THAT SUBJECT MATTER!{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: NO, NOBODY WAS. I MEAN, FOR ME, WASN’T RISKY, WAS JT A NATURAL PROGRSN, BUT AS ACTORS YOU HAVE TO TAKE CHANC, YOU HAVE TO GROW, OTHERWISE, YOU DON’T HAVE ANYTHG TO SAY, ANYTHG TO NTRIBUTE. SO THAT WAS JT A NO BRAER FOR ME, WORKG WH HAL HOLBROOK, YOU {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND THE NORMAL HEART, 1986, I TOOK THE PRODUCTN TO LONDON, JOE PAPP ASKED ME TO DO . THE NORMAL HEART ORIGATED AT THE PUBLIC THEATRE AND HE WANTED ME TO DO , BUT I WASN’T EE WHEN THEY DID THE ORIGAL PRODUCTN. THEN, HE ASKED ME IF I WOULD TAKE TO THE ROYAL COURT. THEY HAD A PROGRAM AT THAT TIME WHERE THEY EXCHANGED PLAYS AND THE ROYAL COURT SENT A PRODUCTN HERE AND THE NEW YORK SHAKPEARE FTIVAL SENT A PRODUCTN THERE…I DID AND WAS GREAT. WE HAD A VERY, VERY SUCCSFUL N AT THE ROYAL COURT AND THEN WENT TO THE WT END AND HAD TWO ST CHANG. SO RAN FOR ABOUT NE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BACK WHEN YOU DID THAT CERTA SUMMER, AND YOU’VE ALWAYS BEEN AN ALLY TO THE MUNY, BUT DID YOU EVEN THK WE’D GET TO THIS POT WHERE WE ARE GETTG MARRIED AND ’S SUCH A DIFFERENT WORLD NOW THEN WAS?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: I DON’T KNOW THAT I REALLY DWELLED ON . IT’S SO UNBELIEVABLE ISN’T ? AND WE’RE JT ON THE VERGE OF A SUPREME COURT CISN THAT IS GOG TO LEGALIZE , ALL PEOPLE AND WHAT’S AMAZG IS YOUNG PEOPLE DON’T EVEN NSIR AN {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}EXACTLY!{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: IT’S THE OLD FOGI THAT ARE STILL HANGG ON TO AN IMAGE OF WHAT THEY HOLD SACRED, BUT THEY HAVE TO ADJT TO HUMANY. IT IS THE HUMAN AND MORAL AND RIGHT THG TO DO AND WE DON’T HAVE TO WA FOR A URT TO CI THAT, WE CI THAT OUR OWN PERSONAL LIV. IT IS GOG TO BEE A PUBLIC STUTN AND SHOULD {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE FIRST SEASON OF GRACE & FRANKIE IS STREAMG NOW ON NETFLIX. {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS
• GRACE AND FRANKIE, A TV MILTONE FOR GAY SENRS AND WOMEN, RETIR

WHAT ‘GRACE & FRANKIE’ GETS RIGHT & WRONG ABOUT GAY FRIENDSHIP

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MART SHEEN AND SAM WATERSTON GO GAY FOR PAY (AND LGHS) ON ‘GRACE AND FRANKIE’

Gay men thrive a tribe. That’s what I’ve learned om TV shows, thk piec, and Instagram photos featurg groups of gays. But that’s not how my gay plotle has veloped.

I me out paratively late, bond wh a muny of people uned by a sire to perform edy a grocery store basement, and let ternalized homophobia stall my self-acceptance until well after I found my Mr.

Now I’m a 32-year-old married gay man who’s more proud of beg out than ever — but I don’t have a group of gays. In three seasons, those gay septuagenarians have e out of the closet, grown fortable their inti and disvered their own ner fabulons. I spent most of my 20s figurg out how I uld and should be gay, pecially sce my role mols growg up as a eply closeted Tennsean were limed to Will, Jack, and Ellen.

THE BT GAY COUPLE A S ARE BROTHERS.

Sol and Robert are the gays I’ve been wag to see. Robert’s as perplexed by the gay dog park’s hook-up lgo “The Goodby” as I would be, and I feel Sol’s hance about drag queen bgo “The Negotiatn. ” That’s why surprised me when was revealed halfway through season one that Sol and Robert, after half a century the closet, have a group of gay iends — the one thg I haven’t been able to figure out.

In the seri’ sixth episo, “The Earthquake, ” Robert is shown hangg out wh Al and Eddie, two brightly drsed, middle-aged gay men that get a few snap-worthy zgers durg their mute on screen.

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MART SHEEN ON GAY MARRIAGE, PLAYG GAY IN 1972 AND HIS LATT ROLE IN "GRACE & FRANKIE"{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}TVBY JIM HALTERMANMAY 21, 2015/2:06 PMBY JIM HALTERMANMAY 21, 2015 / 2:06 PM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"MART SHEEN ON GAY MARRIAGE, PLAYG GAY IN 1972 AND HIS LATT ROLE IN \"GRACE & FRANKIE\"","DATEPUBLISHED":"2015-05-21T18:06:18.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2015-05-21T18:06:18.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"JIM HALTERMAN","KEYWORDS":"THE BACKLOT","ARTICLESECTN":"TV"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}GRACE (JANE FONDA) DON'T REACT WELL TO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NEWS OF HER HBAND (MART SHEEN). (NETFLIX){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHILE THE PAIRG OF INS JANE FONDA AND LILY TOML IS EDY GOLD THE NEW NETFLIX EDY GRACE & FRANKIE, THE ONLY OTHER PAIR THAT CLOSE TO STEALG SCEN OM THE LADI ARE MART SHEEN AND SAM WATERSTON AS NEWLY OUT GRACE AND FRANKIE'S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IF YOU HAVE YET TO CHECK OUT THE NETFLIX EDY, THE VERY DIFFERENT GRACE (FONDA) AND FRANKIE (TOML) ARE NNECTED PRIMARILY THROUGH THEIR LAWYER HBANDS ROBERT (SHEEN) AND SOL (WATERSTON), WHO REVEAL TO THE WIV THE OPENG MUT OF THE SERI THAT THEY'VE BEEN A LOVE AFFAIR FOR TWENTY YEARS AND WANT TO GO PUBLIC WH THEIR RELATNSHIP AND GET MARRIED. THE FIRST SEASON (THIRTEEN EPISOS) FOLLOWS GRACE AND FRANKIE PG AS SGLE WOMEN AS WELL AS LEARNG TO BEE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AS FOR THE MEN, THEY'RE ALSO NEW TERRORY SCE THEY ARE LIVG OUT LOUD FOR THE FIRST TIME WHILE THEIR EX AND THEIR KIDS ARE STILL VERY MUCH A PART OF THEIR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}FOR SHEEN, PLAYG GAY IS SOMETHG HE WAS DOG BACK BEFORE WAS CHIC (WH HAL HOLBROOK!) AND ALONG HIS IMPRSIVE REER HE HAS ALSO BEEN A PART OF THE STAGE ST OF THE NORMAL HEART AND PLAYED TED OLSON 8, THE PLAY. OF URSE, THE ACTOR IS ALSO KNOWN FOR PLAYG PRINT BARTLET ON THE WT WG AND BEG THE FATHER OF ACTORS CHARLIE SHEEN AND E {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN THEBACKLOT TALKED TO SHEEN RECENTLY, HE WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT HIS ROLE ON GRACE & FRANKIE AS WELL AS HIS PAST LGBT ROL AND WHY THEY NEVER SEEMED RISKY TO {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THEBACKLOT: GOG TO GRACE & FRANKIE, I WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH YOU AND SAM WOULD BE VOLVED BEYOND THE JUMPG OFF POT BUT YOUR RELATNSHIP IS JT AS MUCH A PART OF THE SHOW AS GRACE AND FRANKIE’{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MART SHEEN: I THK THAT IS THE FOUNDATN, THAT’S THE WHOLE STARTG POT THAT THE EARTHQUAKE, THE FOUNDATN CMBL WHEN THE GUYS E OUT AND WANT TO LIVE AN HONT LIFE, SO ’S EMBLEMATIC OF WHAT DO HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE CI TO E FORWARD AND BE THEMSELV. IT N BE VERY STLY BUT ’S ALSO VERY REWARDG. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE SHOW IS THAT THE RELATNSHIPS CHANGE AND MOST S, THEY GO EPER AND MORE HUMAN. I THK THE RELATNSHIP WH THE WOMEN, THE WIV, IS NOT OVER BY A LONG {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ON THE NTRARY, ’S A NEW PTH, A NEW LEVEL AND A NEW UNRSTANDG OF EACH OTHER AND A RPECT, AND I THK THAT’S WHAT REALLY MAK THAT MUCH MORE TERTG TO GO FORWARD TO EXPLORE WHAT HAPPENS THE SEND {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE ROBERT/SOL RELATNSHIP IS A VAL PART {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE FIRST SEASON OF GRACE & FRANKIE. (NETFLIX){BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHAT DO ROBERT GET OM SOL AND WHAT DO SOL GET OM ROBERT? THEY’RE VERY DIFFERENT MEN, SO WHAT IS THAT LOVE ABOUT?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: WELL, YOU N NEVER EXPLA LOVE. IT’S THAT GREAT MYSTERY, BUT I TAKE WHETHER ’S A HETEROSEXUAL OR A GAY RELATNSHIP, ’S ABOUT BEG REGNIZED A EPLY PERSONAL WAY. IT’S BEG CHERISHED AN IMMENSELY PERSONAL WAY THAT NO ONE ELSE N FILL, PARTICULARLY AT THAT AGE. THEY’RE NOT KIDS ANYMORE. THEY NNOT LIVE A 'GAY LIFTYLE' PER SE, THEY HAVE LIVED HETEROSEXUAL LIV, THEY ARE HBANDS AND FATHERS, GRANDFATHERS, BUT THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER WAS THE REALY OF WHO THEY REALLY WERE. THEY CID WAS TIME TO ACCEPT THE RPONSIBILY OF {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}ONE OF THE THGS WH ANYBODY WHO’S G OUT AT ANY AGE, ’S NOT LIKE GETS RID OF ALL YOUR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: NO, ON THE NTRARY, OPENS UP PROBLEMS DIFFERENT WAYS, THOUGH. THE FUNNIT SCENE FOR ME WAS WHEN SAM IS TRYG TO EXPLA OUR RELATNSHIP TO OUR LLEAGU AT THE PARTY, THE ATH OF THE IEND, THE FUNERAL. IT’S SO HOPELSLY DISARMG TO BE HONT AND ’S STLY TO BE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SEE THROUGHOUT THE URSE OF THE FIRST SEASON WH ROBERT AND GRACE-- BEE GRACE STARTS DATG AGA AND, LIKE YOU SAID, THEIR RELATNSHIP ISN’T REALLY OVER BUT ’S {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: I THK THAT FOR THE MAJORY OF THE FIRST YEAR, SHE’S TENT ON GETTG EVEN A WAY. SHE WANTS TO EXPLORE WH OTHER MEN TO BOLSTER HER NFINCE. SHE FEELS LIKE SHE’S BEEN BETRAYED, BUT SECRETLY SHE FEELS LIKE SHE’S NOT WORTHY OF ANOTHER RELATNSHIP WH A MAN. I THK SHE KD OF THROWS ROBERT’S FACE, BUT SHE’S DOG LARGE MEASURE BEE SHE NEEDS TO BE NFINT HER OWN PERSONAL WORTH. ALL OF DO SILLY THGS SOMETIM TO PROVE TO OTHERS THAT WE’RE WORTHY BEE THEY DON’T TREAT LIKE WE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}SO WE’RE BENT ON TREATG OURSELV AS SUCH AND SO I THK THAT’S A LARGE PART OF HER MOTIVATN WH THE OTHER MEN, BUT I THK SHE’S GOG TO E EVENTUALLY TO AN UNRSTANDG OF WHAT A GOOD AND CENT MAN ROBERT WAS [AND] THAT HE, SPE HIMSELF, WAS ACUNTABLE. HE KEPT THE FAY TOGETHER. SHE SAID 'YOU ULD HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME AGO,' BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHEN SHE STARTS DATG CRAIG T. NELSON’S CHARACTER, IS EASIER FOR ROBERT THAT ’S SOMEBODY HE KNOWS, OR DO THAT ACTUALLY MAKE MORE DIFFICULT FOR HIM? IT’S NOT A ROMANTIC THG ANYMORE BUT HE STILL R…{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: EXACTLY. IT GETS PLEX. HE DO RE FOR HER VERY, VERY EPLY. THAT’S ONE OF THE SURPRISG ELEMENTS, I THK, OF THE SHOW IS THAT THE RELATNSHIPS ARE NOT ENDG, THEY’RE JT GOG A DIFFERENT DIRECTN AND ’S VERY UNEXPECTED FOR ALL FOUR OF THEM WHERE THEY E TO REALIZE THKG ABOUT THEMSELV AND THEIR PARTNERS THAT THEY TOOK FOR GRANTED, THEY N NO LONGER DO THAT. THEY REALIZE, 'WA A MUTE. THAT WAS A PRETTY SPECIAL PERSON.' THEY’RE ALL STARTG TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER THAT WAY AND ’S STILL ABOUT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}I LOVE THE SCEN WH THE [GROWN] KIDS. IT’S VERY LAYERED, BUT ’S STUFF WE N ALL RELATE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: THE OTHER THG THAT NOBODY IS REALLY TALKG MUCH ABOUT IS THAT ’S THE ONLY SHOW THAT I’M AWARE OF WHERE OLD PEOPLE ARE NOT THE OBJECT OF RIDICULE AND JT DISPOSED OF. THE HUMOR IS SELF-EFFACG, AS FAR AS THEIR AGE IS NCERNED, BUT IS CELEBRATORY OF OLR {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}HAL HOLBROOK AND SHEEN PLAYED LOVERS  THAT CERTA SUMMER  {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST GAY ROLE BY FAR. YOU BROKE GROUND A LONG TIME AGO WH THAT CERTA SUMMER. AT THAT TIME (THE FILM AIRED ON TELEVISN 1972), WAS PROBABLY A RISKY THG TO DO. THE DIENCE PROBABLY MAYBE WASN’T EVEN PREPARED TO SEE THAT SUBJECT MATTER!{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: NO, NOBODY WAS. I MEAN, FOR ME, WASN’T RISKY, WAS JT A NATURAL PROGRSN, BUT AS ACTORS YOU HAVE TO TAKE CHANC, YOU HAVE TO GROW, OTHERWISE, YOU DON’T HAVE ANYTHG TO SAY, ANYTHG TO NTRIBUTE. SO THAT WAS JT A NO BRAER FOR ME, WORKG WH HAL HOLBROOK, YOU {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}AND THE NORMAL HEART, 1986, I TOOK THE PRODUCTN TO LONDON, JOE PAPP ASKED ME TO DO . THE NORMAL HEART ORIGATED AT THE PUBLIC THEATRE AND HE WANTED ME TO DO , BUT I WASN’T EE WHEN THEY DID THE ORIGAL PRODUCTN. THEN, HE ASKED ME IF I WOULD TAKE TO THE ROYAL COURT. THEY HAD A PROGRAM AT THAT TIME WHERE THEY EXCHANGED PLAYS AND THE ROYAL COURT SENT A PRODUCTN HERE AND THE NEW YORK SHAKPEARE FTIVAL SENT A PRODUCTN THERE…I DID AND WAS GREAT. WE HAD A VERY, VERY SUCCSFUL N AT THE ROYAL COURT AND THEN WENT TO THE WT END AND HAD TWO ST CHANG. SO RAN FOR ABOUT NE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}BACK WHEN YOU DID THAT CERTA SUMMER, AND YOU’VE ALWAYS BEEN AN ALLY TO THE MUNY, BUT DID YOU EVEN THK WE’D GET TO THIS POT WHERE WE ARE GETTG MARRIED AND ’S SUCH A DIFFERENT WORLD NOW THEN WAS?{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: I DON’T KNOW THAT I REALLY DWELLED ON . IT’S SO UNBELIEVABLE ISN’T ? AND WE’RE JT ON THE VERGE OF A SUPREME COURT CISN THAT IS GOG TO LEGALIZE , ALL PEOPLE AND WHAT’S AMAZG IS YOUNG PEOPLE DON’T EVEN NSIR AN {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}EXACTLY!{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}MS: IT’S THE OLD FOGI THAT ARE STILL HANGG ON TO AN IMAGE OF WHAT THEY HOLD SACRED, BUT THEY HAVE TO ADJT TO HUMANY. IT IS THE HUMAN AND MORAL AND RIGHT THG TO DO AND WE DON’T HAVE TO WA FOR A URT TO CI THAT, WE CI THAT OUR OWN PERSONAL LIV. IT IS GOG TO BEE A PUBLIC STUTN AND SHOULD {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE FIRST SEASON OF GRACE & FRANKIE IS STREAMG NOW ON NETFLIX. {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}THE {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

But also, Sol says season one’s “The Secrets” (which troduc the also fabulo Jeff and Peter) that they only “know five gay people the world.

GRACE AND FRANKIE, A TV MILTONE FOR GAY SENRS AND WOMEN, RETIR

” I gus after g out to their wiv, Sol and Robert highlighted all the known gays their rolox and ma a big ph for new iendships. I have plenty of iends that are gay, but my go-to crew is predomantly straight. The FOMO I feel every time I see pics of gay bnch/movie nights/etc.

Siarly, my gay/straight iendships are tensely important to me (they are my crew, after all), and would be valuable to see that reflected Grace and Frankie, too.