Are there any ditors a birth chart that make someone more likely to be gay? When an astrologer is lookg at a birth chart for clu related to someone's love life, will they look at the chart differently if the person is homosexual? - Quora

Contents:

• CAN YOU TELL IF SOMEONE IS GAY OR STRAIGHT WH ASTROLOGY?
• THE CHART OF A GAY MAN
• TYSON GAY
• GAY CHART - DISCSNS, QUTNS
• MARCIA GAY HARN

CAN YOU TELL IF SOMEONE IS GAY OR STRAIGHT WH ASTROLOGY?

In morn tim, when cisnormativy and heterosexualy are the nventn, and genrqueer people are nied basic human rights (while homosexualy is emed illegal many untri across the world), is of utmost importance to turn to the past and learn om our anctors the value of -existence, tolerance, and love that has enabled perpetuatn of our civilizatn. Peter Clamp, his article “Astrology of Homophobia, ” wr that astrologil symbols are universal and transgenr nature and “should not necsarily be solely aligned human terms wh physil men and women. I was recently asked wherever astrologers believe homosexualy uld be reprented wh an dividuals natal chart?, and found to be a very tertg qutn that got me thkg; pecially relatn to our ials of genr, generalisatns and an active search for e and ditors of such a a path of sexual orientatn - I feel that is about time that I at least st a sual eye on the subject self.

(In reflectn this is anythg but sual, a b long, wdg and badly eded so I suggt that if you are up for you grab yourself a nice cuppa) In begng this blog entry I feel that I uld simply change the tle to homophobic astrology as seems would better reprent some of the works on morn astrology, that are sadly by and large eher very homophobic or credibly unr rmed on the realy of beg gay.

THE CHART OF A GAY MAN

Of urse homosexualy and beg gay self is far more than jt a sexual orientatn but sadly our current rctive Virgoan society mands that dividuals sexually polarise and intify themselv as eher homosexual or heterosexual, stead of beg somewhere between or beyond a fixative label of orientatn.

I first began my path wh astrology and beg gay myself I undoubtedly like many other gay neophyte astrologers out there rearched the topic, immediately I was stck by a number of problems: aquacy of material available astrology on same sex relatnships or ed on any aspect of homosexualy astrologil lerature.

Sadly is clear om his work that he assumed (as many astrologers and most of the general public still do) that homosexualy was a nrosis and astrologilly lked wh Uran hard aspects to the ner plas. It is tertg to note that one person he selected was Edward the 8th later De of Wdsor) ltle astrologers have wrten to date about homosexualy merely to my ey unrl the still wily held notn that homosexualy is a nrosis, a parture om the "norm" and hence n be tected the astrologil none of them have ever as far as I am aware backed this up wh sound empiril evince.

TYSON GAY

The followg quot taken om an article by Peter Clamp which n also be found some current astrologil texts (that are currently wily available) are among some that I believe will support my view:Derek and Julia Parker state that aspects between the Sun/Moon and Uran "…are often prent the charts of homosexuals of both sex. Francis Sakoian and Louis S Acker The Astrologers Handbook (which is a very popular paperback published by Pengu Books sce way back 1974) has associate the hard aspects of Ven/Neptune and Mars/Neptune wh homosexual exprsn. "Whout pickg too much at the sually typed words of others (hec, who among haven't said anythg easily terpreted the ntrary sence was meant wh) I uldn't help but notice the proximy of the words "bcheri" and "homosexuals", a clear implitn that homosexualy is a fe moral Ven opposn Neptune the suatn is worse: "There is danger of practicg or beg the victim of subtle sexual sctn.

In some rpects easy aspects n be as troublome as hard on as they lack the tensn required for acplishment and/or a later book Arroyo's, Relatnships and Life Cycl, the suatn which astrologil elements seem to support homophobia do not seem to of improved: "There's often a certa ldns (about Ven/Uran aspects), Uran is always somewhat impersonal, and that, htg Ven, giv a kd of impersonal tge to their attu toward emotnal and sexual behavur. You're apt to fd this maniftatn of this terchange que often, pecially women who go through lots of partners or who have gotten to homosexualy, although, aga, the vast majory wh Ven/Uran aspects are not practicg homosexuals. "Here Arroyo, like some other psychologil astrologers, lks ldns, impersonaly and promiscuy wh beg homosexual wh not a shred of evince for this nnectn, rercg the hoary, unsubstantiated old clich and myths about gay and lbian people, and panrg to the homophobic llective shadow.

GAY CHART - DISCSNS, QUTNS

He stat that: "Homosexual or bisexual clatns are not unmon; and even those who don't act out all their urg, there is often an tense emotnal rentment towards eher the person's own sex or towards those of the oppose sex. The person eventually has to stand alone and mt start the often paful procs of formg a relatnship wh herself or himself whilst learng to let go of the "other" very faiar scenar transcends genr and sexual orientatn and there is no jtifitn, apart om perhaps a vert need to rerce an tolerant, heterosexist posn and one's own agile sense of normalcy, to brg mt also be stated though to his cred that Arroyo do add: "… not all gay people have Mars/Uran aspects motivatg them.

He found that all existg theori on the astrologil ditors of homosexualy fail to f all or even the majory of tratn seems he rorted to the Hdu "namvamsa" chart, which seems to be based on the 9th Harmonic (40 gree aspects) and claims to have disvered some signifint rults. Wh gay men, van Dam found difficult aspects between the Moon and Saturn eher the natal or namvamsa chart to be very mon, fact he claims ¾ of also njunctns between the 9th harmonic chart and the natal 12th harmonic chart wh regard to the Moon, Saturn and the "bilatg": hoe cps 6 and 12.

Addnally, if there is a homosexual signature the chart, has to follow that there mt also be a heterosexual signature agast which n be Lundsted, her book, Astrologil Insights Into Personaly, has ltle doubt that homosexualy n be diagnosed om the chart. She associat the hard aspects between the Moon and Ven wh female homosexualy but prents no real evince to back her the Moon/Ven njunctn, she stat: "…if the rt of the chart agre, this aspect may dite a homosexual female.

MARCIA GAY HARN

There is this mythil que prejudicial perceptn that not only do homosexual men and women lead a eer and ls onero liftyle pared wh married people, they are liberately avoidg havg children by beg gay or lbian. The only "choice" homosexual people have had practice is whether to e out a hostile world half of whom would still like to see you ad or hi behd a heterosexual view that homosexualy is a "problem" is the rult of very narrow polil, social and cultural ias about sex; the Christian religns view sex as purely procreative nyg s wholome perfectly natural recreative ponent. Rather than own the vil wh they llectively project the vil who have a problem wh homosexualy om my experience have a problem wh sex general and the whole Plutonian si of life, but rather than openly acknowledge , prefer to take the easy optn and project their reprsed stctual "shadows" on to lbian and gay people.

And if termg homosexual behavur is as plited as termg heterosexual behavur I fd hard to unrstand why she n still mata that she n ascerta homosexualy om the astrologil of urse pruppos that heterosexualy too n be ascertaed om the chart, which the majory of rears would regard as pletely nonsensil. One n therefore image how lbian and gay people feel about the whole patronisg Lundsted's book is still prt (and a py rts on my shelf if anyone wants to borrow ) She may have changed her posn the meantime.

) lked wh homosexualy by the followg noted astrologers:Sun/Uran - Derek and Julia ParkerMoon/Ven - Betty LunstedMoon/Uran - Derek and Julia ParkerVen/Mars - Betty LunstedVen/Saturn - Liz GreeneVen/Uran - Franc Sakoian & Louis Acker, Stephen Arroyo (maybe)Ven/Neptune - Francis Sakoian & Louis AckerVen/Pluto - Stephen ArroyoMars/Uran - Stephen ArroyoMars/Neptune - Stephen Arroyo, Francis Sakoian & Louis AckerMars/Pluto - Stephen ArroyoIt is que evint that astrologers do not agree at all as to what plaary aspect or aspects are associated wh homosexualy.