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15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn"><span>Leve at age 25 DJ’g at Heaven 1979, the year opened. (From Leve’s </span><a href=" rel>Facebook page </a><span>)</span></figptn></figure></div><p></p><p><span>Happy January, Caftan rears! I hope you all had a good holiday break and are muddlg through the wter okay, wherever you are. It's ld and dreary NYC right now, but I actually like this time of year. Wh the mments of the holidays behd, 's all about hunkerg down to work, okg warm zy thgs (try </span><a href=" rel>this</a><span> Thai-ish d poached nut k—I ma last night and 's amazg and so easy), htg the gym to look prentable by sprg and, um, what else? Oh y—curlg up wh good books! I want to </span><em>passnately</em><span> remend my longtime wrer iend Mike Albo's brand-new novel </span><em><a href=" rel>Another Dimensn of Us</a><span>. </span></em></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="918" height="1280" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p><span>It's YA (young adult), but 's so funny, twisty and sweet—about nerdy and queer 1980s kids and queer/trans 2040s kids who all get sucked to the astral plane together, where they have to save one another om evil body-snatchg enti lled (lol) "Consumers." (A ltle late-stage palist crique there, Mikey?) It's tly sweet, slyly funny and ironic a way that is </span><em>sooo </em><span>Mike, and the plot is bonkers, like the bt season of </span><em>Stranger Thgs</em><span> meets </span><em>A Wrkle Time</em><span> meets </span><em>The Breakfast Club </em><span>meets </span><em>Euphoria. </em><span>I'm not kiddg! </span></p><p><span>This month's terview is wh Ian Leve, 69, of London. Maybe you haven't heard of him, pecially if you're Amerin, but perhaps you've heard of Heaven, the legendary London gay club (Andrew Hollghurst brgs to life vividly </span><em><a href=" rel>The Swimmg Pool Library</a></em><span>, one of my favore novels). Ian was the ma DJ there through the entire eighti, pneerg the style of 1980s gay post-dis club mic—which we associate often wh The Pet Shop Boys, Bronski Beat and Erasure— that me to be lled Hi-NRG. He wrote and produced the super-gay Hi-NRG hs "So Many Men, So Ltle Time," wh s licly early-eighti-gay vio full of </span><em>actual gay men om Los Angel</em><span>...</span></p><div id="youtube2-n_MiRWo4Myw" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{"vioId":"n_MiRWo4Myw","startTime":null,"endTime":null}" data-ponent-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-ner"><iame src=" ameborr="0" loadg="lazy" gture="media" allow="toplay; fullscreen" allowtoplay="te" allowfullscreen="te" width="728" height="409"></iame></div></div><p>.. "High Energy"...</p><div id="youtube2-QxDJJPLzuTw" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{"vioId":"QxDJJPLzuTw","startTime":null,"endTime":null}" data-ponent-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-ner"><iame src=" ameborr="0" loadg="lazy" gture="media" allow="toplay; fullscreen" allowtoplay="te" allowfullscreen="te" width="728" height="409"></iame></div></div><p></p><p><span>And he also went on to remix and/or produce a strg of UK pop sensatns like The Pet Shop Boys, Bananarama, Erasure, Bronski Beat, Tiffany, Take That and Boyzone. He's done que a b else, like some tly amazg genealogy work rng his own clan, which was trmatized and broken up by the Holot, and is also perhaps the world's biggt and most fluential </span><em>Dr. Who </em><span>fan.</span></p><p>Even before Ian was at Heaven the 1980s, he learned to DJ as part of the early-70s Brish Northern Soul scene—a i I've always been obssed wh, which workg-class maly straight kids the dtrial north of England would get high off their face on speed and dance huge clubs to sped-up obscure sub-Motown 1960s Amerin soul rerds. (I've always thought would make an amazg movie.) </p><p><span>So when someone suggted I reach out to Ian to terview him, I knew we'd have some shared passns, as I ed to DJ myself and am a huge history of every sgle phase of dance-mic and DJ history—pecially the gay aspects. Ian, who suffered a stroke a while back and now needs a lot of help his daily life, was grac to accept my terview requt and give me the time, but I'll be hont— was a very tough terview. He talked over nearly all of my qutns and, pecially toward the end of the terview, volved to basilly ignorg me pletely and DJ'g </span><em>at me</em><span> whatever song popped to his md. We really start to fall apart toward the end and talk about why he might have such a hard time havg a te back-and-forth wh another person. It might have been the first time I, and not the terviewee, end a Caftan terview, at about the 90-mute mark. And I did so bee I had not a drop of energy left me to try to have a real nversatn wh him.</span></p><p><span>Still, I'm grateful he agreed to do , as I'm grateful to every one of my Caftan terviewe regardls of how good the terview is. There's fely lots of good stuff here—jt don't expect a lot of trospectn or stayg on any one ia for too long. I thk next month's terview will be richer—'s wh a te legend of the NYC gay publishg/lerary world on the release of his own latt memoir, which I am very exced to read shortly. Meanwhile, I am happy to give you Ian Leve, who asked that I clu his podst </span><a href=" rel>Solid Soul Sensatns</a><span>, which he plays a lot of old rare Northern Soul tracks. </span></p><p><span>Caftaners, please drop me a le if ever you n thk of a gay man age 60 or olr who's led a notable life—I n't promise I'll pursue, as I have my own quirky ias about who seems or seems not to be a good terview, but I'll fely nsir! And I know I always say this, but—I'm </span><em>really</em><span> grateful for the support, pecially the paid support. The terviews take a lot of time, and the b of e I get om them allows me to do them whout losg too much e takg time away om other assignments.</span></p><p>So here's Ian!</p><div><hr /></div><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="604" height="431" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">A fairly recent photo of Ian. (om his Facebook page)</figptn></figure></div><p></p><p>Tim: Hi Ian, thank you so much for agreeg to chat wh The Caftan Chronicl. </p><p>Ian: [llg to someone] Can you turn the rock mic off? I'm dog an terview. [to me] That's Aidy, my assistant who looks after me. </p><p>Tim: Oh, okay. So you said you live Wt London, Acton. Can you scribe your hoe?</p><p>Ian: It's two huge three-story ho knocked together. It's got 25 rooms, a lot of which are storage for my rerds and equipment. The hoekeeper's dghter liv here and Aidy liv here part time. I had a stroke ne years ago that pletely disabled me. I live about four or five rooms. They all hoe my master tap and rerdgs and rerds. I have 150,000 vyl sgl. I've got 2,000 tap I've rerd over the years. I have four whe Eskimo sled dogs—Colombo, Madison, Myla and Bobby—and a whe t named Tamla, like Berry Gordy's label that merged to Motown 1960. I actually don't own this hoe anymore, I sold , but I have the right to live until the day I die.</p><p>Tim: Okay, ol. What is a typil day for you like?</p><p>Ian: I don't ever wake up before 10am. Someone has to drs me bee I n't e my left hand or left leg. I spend most of the day on my puter. We put a lot of rerds out on vyl. We have a stud set up here the hoe.</p><p>Tim: Where you—remix tracks?</p><p>Ian: Remixg is the wrong word. I'll ll -mixg. We try to make thgs sound more sixti and ls morn. All the 80s and 90s shty electronic dms, which I hate, we replace wh real dm sounds. My most succsful tracks ever were "So Many Men, So Ltle Time" and "High Energy." But my taste is soul mic, not dis remix. I remixed half the hs of the 80s—the Pet Shop Boys, Bananarama, Erasure, Bronski Beat, Tiffany. But after that I got back to Northern Soul aga. My fans who love dis don't unrstand, but I crge when I listen to a lot of dis and dance mic.</p><p>Tim: Really? Why?</p><p>Ian: Bee 's too gay. It's pigeon-holed. I prefer Motown—betiful, uptempo, joyo melodi and chords, proper three-mute songs. The dis and dance stuff I ed to remix had a three-mute tro before you even heard the sger. I did that for the Heaven dance floor. The kd of dis I love is glor, romantic, strg-filled dis, like Phyllis Nelson's "Don't Stop the Tra."</p><div id="youtube2-AlZYi4MmDas" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{"vioId":"AlZYi4MmDas","startTime":null,"endTime":null}" data-ponent-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-ner"><iame src=" ameborr="0" loadg="lazy" gture="media" allow="toplay; fullscreen" allowtoplay="te" allowfullscreen="te" width="728" height="409"></iame></div></div><p>Tim: Okay. So you are ont of your puter all day...</p><p>Ian: Gog out of the hoe is murr. I have to get down the stairs, which is paful and an effort. I don't go out much anymore. I had 70 people e for my last birthday party. I got out about twice a week for doctor appotments. My health has been sh—stroke, bladr ncer, then sepsis, saridoisis. I'm still tryg to do as much as I n while I'm still here. I did a lot of genealogy work and traced my fay so far that I found out ntas Barbra Streisand, Billy Crystal, Amy Wehoe and Steven Spielberg. On , you have DNA matchg and through-l where you n match your anctors to other people's. </p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="837" height="374" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">A 2018 fay rnn that Ian ( wheelchair) anized.</figptn></figure></div><p></p><p><span>I ed to love fe dg at the London rtrants of </span><a href=" rel>Mar Pierre Whe</a><span>, one of the world's greatt chefs. I ed to see Tom Cise, Nile Kidman and Prcs Margaret at his rtrants. But now I've tght Aidy how to ok. Today we had grilled seabass wh whipped cream potato. New Year's Eve, we even went out to dner. My gay Julian's hband is the manager of M Jiang on the tenth floor of the Royal Garn Hotel Kensgton. I have to go out a wheelchair.</span></p><p>Tim: Well, I'm glad you had a nice New Year's Eve dner. So you were born 1953 Blackpool, which is on the ast of the UK facg toward Ireland. </p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="551" height="344" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">Blackpool.</figptn></figure></div><p>What were you like as a kid?</p><p><span>Ian: A b of a geni. When I was seven, my teacher was lecturg on dosrs and I told her she got all wrong and she had me lecture the class stead. I was also a talent ntt where I sang "Wouldn't It be Loverly" om </span><em>My Fair Lady</em><span>.</span></p><p>Tim: Y, and you bee a mic fanatic at a fairly early age. Can you talk about that?</p><p>Ian: It was Motown. I was 13 and the rad England played bland pop like Cliff Richard...</p><div id="youtube2-2LPgCpVlMds" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{"vioId":"2LPgCpVlMds","startTime":null,"endTime":null}" data-ponent-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-ner"><iame src=" ameborr="0" loadg="lazy" gture="media" allow="toplay; fullscreen" allowtoplay="te" allowfullscreen="te" width="728" height="409"></iame></div></div><p><span>.. </span><a href=" rel>Rad Carole </a><span>{found 1964) played Motown—the Suprem, the Four Tops, Martha and the Vanllas, the Marvelett, the Velvelett—I fell love wh .</span></p><p>Tim: Why? I should say I love Motown too. But why for you?</p><p><span>Ian: That beat! The fact that the lyrics uld be like "My world is so empty whout you," but the mic was so happy and fast. The Four Tops, "</span><a href=" rel>Sce You've Been Gone</a><span>"—the vibraphone hs you wh the beat and the bass le is the precsor of dis and Hi-NRG. I had dner wh [Motown h wrer] Lamont Dozier [who </span><a href=" rel>jt died </a><span>last summer] once and he said, "I took a rock and roll beat and mixed wh jazz chords, and that was the Motown sound." They took very sophited chords, nths and gmented thirteenths, and put them to a straightforward four-four beat and ma them the sound of the Baby Boom Generatn.</span></p><p>Tim: Why do you thk on a personal level you were so drawn to Motown?</p><p><span>Ian: I don't know—I'm not a psychiatrist. So I was DJ'g at </span><a href=" rel>Blackpool Mec</a><span> by the time I was 17, 1970. We were playg Motown-type rerds that were already five or six years old, by obscure artists. Like Robert Knight's "Love on a Mountatop"...</span></p><div id="youtube2-Ov1Vob0_TW8" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{"vioId":"Ov1Vob0_TW8","startTime":null,"endTime":null}" data-ponent-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-ner"><iame src=" ameborr="0" loadg="lazy" gture="media" allow="toplay; fullscreen" allowtoplay="te" allowfullscreen="te" width="728" height="409"></iame></div></div><p>.. was reissued and went to #2 on the UK pop charts. So this scene beme known as Northern Soul—all the clubs the north of England playg Motown-era tracks after Ameri left them behd. But I would also spend a lot of time the U.S., where my parents had an apartment Miami Beach, and I would go to rerd shops there. </p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="696" height="470" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn">Around this time Miami, Ian (back row center wh long hair) and his sister met and beiend the Jackson Five!)</figptn></figure></div><p><span>So I started lookg for the Motown sound on other labels and that's how I disvered </span><a href=" rel>The Imprsns </a><span> [out of which me Curtis Mayfield] and </span><a href=" rel>The Masquerars</a><span>. For me, beme all about fdg rerds nobody else uld fd.</span></p><p><span>Tim: I am so fascated by the Northern Soul scene, which the Brish thor Bill Brewster wr about so vividly his credible 1999 dance mic/DJ history book </span><em><a href=" rel>Last Night a DJ Saved My Life</a><span>. </span></em></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="270" height="407" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>How would you expla Northern Soul to someone who hasn't heard of ?</p><p>Ian: 's the 1960s Motown sound but done by labels other than Motown [like Chs and Stax]. </p><p>Tim: Right, and was early 1970s workg-class Northern UK kids a very bleak dtrial part of the untry breakg to pharmaci and stealg all the speed and gettg fucked up and gog to the wareho where they would dance off the walls to sped-up versns of this obscure 1960s Amerin soul. </p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="938" height="574" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn"><span>Kids dancg the Northern Soul scene (om </span><a href=" rel></a><span>)</span></figptn></figure></div><p>A te example of cultural hybridism. But that scene was not very gay, was ?</p><p><span>Ian: The DJ </span><a href="'S_DJ_MIX_1983" rel>L Cokell </a><span>was gay. But no, was a very straight, macho scene.</span></p><p>Tim: When did you first realize you were gay or had gay feelgs?</p><p><span>Ian: I tried to supprs until I was 25. I was New York Cy 1975 and [dance mic pneer] </span><a href=" rel>Tom Moulton</a><span>, who beme a great idol of me, took me to the new gay club Infy and was a life-changer. </span></p><div class="ptned-image-ntaer"><figure><a class="image-lk is-viewable-img image2" target="_blank" href=" data-ponent-name="Image2ToDOM" rel><div class="image2-set"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" /><img src=" width="766" height="264" data-attrs="{"src":"" class="sizg-normal" alt srcset=" 424w, 848w, 1272w, 1456w" siz="100vw" loadg="lazy" /></picture><div class="image-lk-expand"><svg xmlns=" width="16" height="16" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="#FFFFFF" stroke-width="2" stroke-lep="round" stroke-lejo="round" class="luci luci-maximize2"><polyle pots="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyle><polyle pots="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyle><le x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></le><le x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></le></svg></div></div></a><figptn class="image-ptn"><span>Moulton 1977 wh dis tr First Choice. (om </span><a href=" rel></a><span>)</span></figptn></figure></div><p>Infy is what we moled Heaven after—a long, rectangular club wh the DJ booth the middle, high up on one si overlookg the dance floor, big raised black felt banquett, dancers wh silver and gold fans, no shirts. Cerrone's "Give Me Love" wh the break near the end where the beat stops and the strgs rry on…</p><div id="youtube2-tee4asSKj8A" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{"vioId":"tee4asSKj8A","startTime":null,"endTime":null}" data-ponent-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-ner"><iame src=" ameborr="0" loadg="lazy" gture="media" allow="toplay; fullscreen" allowtoplay="te" allowfullscreen="te" width="728" height="409"></iame></div></div><p><span>…and the whole crowd screamg their ts off, wavg fans. It was a magil moment that affected me for the next few years. A few years later I produced the track "</span><a href=" rel>My Claim to Fame</a><span>" by Jam Wells, which was spired by Cerrone. It's an absolute dis anthem. Nerds thk of dis as The Bee Ge and Donna Summer, but people who are really -the-know know Jam Wells.</span></p><p></p></div></div><div class="visibily-check"></div><div data-ttid="paywall" data-ponent-name="Paywall" class="paywall"><h2 class="paywall-tle">This post is for paid subscribers</h2><div class="paywall-cta"><a href=" native><button tabInx="0" type="button" class="button subscribe-btn">Subscribe</button></a></div><div class="paywall-log"><a href=" native>Already a paid subscriber? <b>Sign </b></a></div></div></div></article></div></div></div></div><div class="footer-wrap publitn-footer"><div class="visibily-check"></div><div class="footer themed-background"><div class="ntaer"><div class="footer-blurbs"><div class="footer-pyright-blurb">© 2023 Tim Murphy</div><div class="footer-terms-blurb"><a href=" target="__blank">Privacy</a><span> ∙ </span><a href=" target="__blank">Terms</a><span> ∙ </span><a href=" target="__blank">Collectn notice</a></div></div><div class="footer-buttons"><a native href=" class="footer-substack-cta start-publishg"><svg role="img" width="1000" height="1000" viewBox="0 0 1000 1000" fill="#FF6719" stroke-width="1.8" stroke="none" xmlns="><g><tle>
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