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em{font-style:alic;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;}</style><p data-no-id="0" class="body-dropp css-am5pt0 et3p2gv0">T<em>e Detective</em> fans like to nsir themselv the real te tectiv. If you happened to be followg along wh blogs or nversatns wh the active Redd muny durg Season Three, you'll have seen theori rangg om "<style data-emotn="css umdwtv">{-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-thickns:.0625rem;text-ratn-lor:#FF3A30;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;lor:her;-webk-transn:background 0.4s;transn:background 0.4s;background:lear-gradient(#ffffff, #ffffff 50%, #d5dbe3 50%, #d5dbe3);-webk-background-size:100% 200%;background-size:100% 200%;}{lor:#000000;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;-webk-background-posn:100% 100%;background-posn:100% 100%;}</style><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Amelia is the killer" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">Amelia is the killer</a>," to <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="discsns of Roland's sexualy" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">discsns of Roland's sexualy</a>, to an amazgly wild ia <a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="that Hays died Vietnam" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">that Hays died Vietnam</a> and this was all a <em>Jab's Ladr</em>-type scenar.</p><style data-emotn="css aeyldl">{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-size:1.1875rem;le-height:1.6;} strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;} em{font-style:alic;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;}</style><p data-no-id="1" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">This speculatn is part of the fun of <em>Te Detective</em>, as amatr slths vtigate every scene for tails—<em>this room looks a lot like one of the missg child's drawgs!</em>—to every syllable of dialogue.</p><div supprsHydratnWarng data-no-id="2" data-embed="edorial-lk" class="embed css-0 e9hzx6g0"><style data-emotn="css 1643r8a">{borr:none;marg-top:1.875rem;marg-bottom:1.875rem;paddg:0rem;}</style><asi class="css-1643r8a e6pr2lz5"><style data-emotn="css l3w2xc">{display:le-block;font-weight:normal;marg:0rem;borr-top:0.25rem solid #15263D;paddg-right:1.1rem;paddg-top:0.4375rem;text-transform:lowerse;font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:0.875rem;le-height:1.3;}</style><h6 class="css-l3w2xc e6pr2lz3"><style data-emotn="css 156fvc1">{borr-bottom:0.4375rem solid #FF3A30;borr-right:0.4375rem solid transparent;ntent:'';display:le-block;height:0;marg-right:0.5rem;width:0;}</style><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-156fvc1 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 8lle59">{max-width:lc(100% - 120px - .625rem);}</style><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Related Stori</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></h6><style data-emotn="css c4s2gi">{paddg:0rem;marg:0rem;list-style:none;}</style><ul class="css-c4s2gi e6pr2lz4"><style data-emotn="css 79zw4t">{font-fay:Lsanne,Lsanne-fallback,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1rem;le-height:2rem;paddg-top:0.625rem;}@media(max-width: 48rem){{font-size:0.9375rem;le-height:1.3;}}@media(m-width: 48rem){{le-height:1.4;}}@media(m-width: 64rem){{le-height:1.4;}} a{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;lor:her;-webk-transn:all 0.3s ease--out;transn:all 0.3s ease--out;} a:hover{lor:#595959;}</style><li class="css-79zw4t e6pr2lz2"><style data-emotn="css 1bn7a5e">{-webk-text-ratn:none;text-ratn:none;display:-webk-box;display:-webk-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webk-box-flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-wrap:wrap;-ms-flex-wrap:wrap;flex-wrap:wrap;-webk-flex-directn:row;-ms-flex-directn:row;flex-directn:row;-webk-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webk-jtify-ntent:flex-start;jtify-ntent:flex-start;-webk-align-ems:center;-webk-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-ems:center;}</style><a href="/entertament/tv/a26541331/te-tective-season-3-stephen-dorff/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Te Detective Was a Rebirth for Stephen Dorff" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><style data-emotn="css 1l0u1">{marg-right:0.625rem;height:to;}</style><img src="" alt="Denim, Jeans, Drs shirt, Shirt, Stg, " tle="Denim, Jeans, Drs shirt, Shirt, Stg, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Te Detective Was a Rebirth for Stephen Dorff</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-79zw4t e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv/a26531067/te-tective-season-3-amelia-ath-hays-wife/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Amelia's Te Detective Fate Revealed" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Clothg, Drs, Room, Fashn, Furnure, Shoulr, Waist, Interr sign, Livg room, Couch, " tle="Clothg, Drs, Room, Fashn, Furnure, Shoulr, Waist, Interr sign, Livg room, Couch, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Amelia's Te Detective Fate Revealed</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li><li class="css-79zw4t e6pr2lz2"><a href="/entertament/tv/a26513713/te-tective-season-3-fale-explaed/" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn="Te Detective Season 3 Fale Explaed" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Edorial Lks" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" class="css-1bn7a5e e1c1bym14"><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p0"></span><img src="" alt="Rtrant, Stg, Room, Conversatn, Table, Café, Coffeehoe, Vatn, Hoe, " tle="Rtrant, Stg, Room, Conversatn, Table, Café, Coffeehoe, Vatn, Hoe, " width="120" height="100%" dg="async" loadg="lazy" image-align="left" class="css-1l0u1 e6pr2lz0" /><span class="css-8lle59 e6pr2lz1">Te Detective Season 3 Fale Explaed</span><span aria-hidn="te" class="css-0 eagam8p1"></span></a></li></ul></asi></div><p data-no-id="3" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">In the end, <em>Te Detective</em> was far more ntaed than many of the theori out there: Hoyt's mentally ill dghter Isabel accintally killed Will Purcell. Then Isabel, wh the help of Hoyt's employe, vered up the ath and kept Julie Purcell ptive—and sedated wh dgs—for a . Julie ped, lived on the streets, found a nvent to live , and eventually met an old childhood iend, whom she married and lived happily ever after. Wayne Hays and Roland Wt—the tectiv who spent their entire liv wh the se—found some closure and were able to put the mystery to rt.</p><p data-no-id="4" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">The <em>Te Detective</em> muny, however, wouldn't let thgs end so easily. Blogs and Redd have been flood sce the Season Three fale on Sunday wh theori about the endg. Meanwhile, creator Nic Pizzolatto has been tryg to keep up wh the nversatn out there, settg the rerd straight on Instagram. But now, a rare terview about Season Three, Pizzolatto unpacks what really happened to Julie Purcell, the fate of Amelia, the nnectn to Season One, Hays's memory of solvg the crime, and the possibily of a Season Four.</p><p data-no-id="5" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>ESQ: This go all the way back to season one, but there's such an active muny talkg about <em>Te Detective</em>, and 's been fun to see you engage wh viewers through Instagram.</strong></p><p data-no-id="6" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Nic Pizzolatto: </strong>Yeah, I hadn't done that before, and a younger iend of me remend Instagram bee I've jt never been a social media person. I found I really enjoyed engagg wh fans to the gree I uld whout g anythg. I wanted to help reel the wilr speculatns to try to help people manage their expectatns a ltle b and to maybe help them see what we were tryg to foc on. And I enjoyed the dialogue and I enjoyed seeg people talk amongst themselv. 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The Amelia thg, I jt really didn't get. She's a plited, amb, but fundamentally good person who wants to be a wrer. I don't see how you would make the leap om there to child killer.</p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">That kd of twist isn't somethg I really nsired good storytellg—that I was lyg about how I was portrayg a character. And would make Wayne a pretty terrible tective, bee he was married to this woman for 33 years and he never clocked the fact that she was a murrer. So I thought that by providg clary to that, would help those fans who thought they were beg set up for somethg like that. And aga, the same thg wh Roland—I was jt providg clary.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="11" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Clothg, Drs, Room, Fashn, Furnure, Shoulr, Waist, Interr sign, Livg room, Couch, " tle="Clothg, Drs, Room, Fashn, Furnure, Shoulr, Waist, Interr sign, Livg room, Couch, " loadg="lazy" width="2500" height="1667" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="12" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Is difficult to remove yourself om what Redd or blogs or crics or fans my terpret while you're wrg?</strong></p><p data-no-id="13" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah. I thk you really have to foc on the work, and the story you're tellg and the nsc of what you're puttg down and what you're portrayg but at the end of the day. You're not gog to be able to ntrol projectn, and the speculatn that arriv. We tried to be as upont wh the viewer as was possible and tellg you everythg that's gog to happen before happens.</p><p data-no-id="14" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>A lot of the readgs I've seen out there have nsired documentarian Eliza Montgomery as a kd of stand- for Redd, or a take on other real te crime documentari the way she attempts to make the leaps to nnect the Purcell se to the Yellow Kg Season One.</strong></p><p data-no-id="15" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">You know, 's not que that meta, I thk, but fely one of her functns was to serve as a speculator. Wayne's talkg to her fundamentally to tease out the rmatn that she might know. And once he realiz that she don't know about what he did or about Julie Purcell's ultimate fate, he's stumped. It was also a way of acknowledgg that we regnize that Yellow Kg story possibily. Like, uld have been that, but we're not terted that.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="16" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Book, Readg, Library, Booksellg, Publitn, Bookse, Furnure, Author, " tle="Book, Readg, Library, Booksellg, Publitn, Bookse, Furnure, Author, " loadg="lazy" width="2500" height="1667" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="17" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>So speakg of that, you were kd of quick to dispel some of those theori about the two crim beg nnected Season One and Season Three. Why did you want to make clear that they took place the same fictnal universe, but weren't so eply volved?</strong></p><p data-no-id="18" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">For me, was somethg like fan service but wh the pot of sayg that this is all one universe and that the thgs exist. It has that nnectn, but at the same time also sayg this story is not that story.</p><p data-no-id="19" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>The wilst theory I saw out there volved Hays beg ad the whole time and this beg some sort of <em>Jab's Ladr</em>-type suatn.</strong></p><p data-no-id="20" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah, that's not te. I'm not sure how much I should say about the very fal sequence bee I n lerally expla , but might be the kd of thg that's better left to terpretatn for a while. But Wayne fely did not die Vietnam, and everythg that you wnsed actually happened. That was one of the thgs that I tried to dispel earlier on, this ia that everythg is only a good a thg Wayne's md. It's much more of a realist procral character study wh some kd of physil terpretatns of Wayne's ndn given how we move around time.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="21" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Rtrant, Stg, Room, Conversatn, Table, Café, Coffeehoe, Vatn, Hoe, " tle="Rtrant, Stg, Room, Conversatn, Table, Café, Coffeehoe, Vatn, Hoe, " loadg="lazy" width="2500" height="1667" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="22" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Am I rrect that this is the only time we actually see Vietnam the season?</strong></p><p data-no-id="23" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Right, that was actually the fartht you've seen ... that's the fartht regrsn we've seen as far as time go the seri. And I would say that's the nature clue more than anythg, not that this was all a dream. And that's kd of cur too that if Wayne di Vietnam, who's tellg this story? I fely I rpect and appreciate the level of engagement, no qutn.</p><p data-no-id="24" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>I read that fal scene as so much of this had to do wh memory and we fally see the actual events of what those memori did to him throughout his entire life and I thought that was an tertg way to circle back what was another pivotal moment his life.</strong></p><p data-no-id="25" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah, and if you thk about , the first episo ends wh Wayne walkg alone to a dark fort and that's also how the last episo ends.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="26" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Luxury vehicle, Vehicle, Car, Su, Personal luxury r, Mid-size r, Bsperson, Formal wear, Gture, " tle="Luxury vehicle, Vehicle, Car, Su, Personal luxury r, Mid-size r, Bsperson, Formal wear, Gture, " loadg="lazy" width="4200" height="2800" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="27" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>To me, the most important moment of the fale was when Wayne's son Henry pockets the addrs for Julie. It seemed like a ht that he uld solve this thg.</strong></p><p data-no-id="28" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah, I thk one of the scen we lost, you got to actually wns what a good tective Henry is. I thk 's an unwillgns to let go of somethg, some kd of actnable meang to his father. Knowg that, he has that part of his father himself, that the dogged vtigative part. I do thk 's open that Henry might check this out at some pot the future. I thk he's probably done wh the Montgomery character, but I n image a world where Henry follows up on his addrs and perhaps reach some closure for himself and Roland. It might be as simple as jt sayg, the end he wasn't willg to throw away his father's life.</p><p data-no-id="29" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>So the scen of him beg a tective were cut?</strong></p><p data-no-id="30" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">There was a scene the fale where Henry is observg his father the documentary terviews, and there's a le by Roland, when Roland tells Henry, "Hey, I told your dad he shouldn't be talkg to those people, uld be dangero." And Henry go, "Dangero, how?" And Roland flips, like to get off the topic. Those thgs as well as a personal timele of his father's history, Henry figur out what happened to Harris Jam. And he terrogat his father about .</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="31" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Photography, Wdow, " tle="Photography, Wdow, " loadg="lazy" width="5196" height="3464" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="32" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>One of the cut scen you discsed on Instagram had to do wh Amelia's ath.</strong></p><p data-no-id="33" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah. And aga, the reason I addrsed was I jt felt like fans were owed that. Even if you're payg attentn, I thk, the early episos, Wayne mentned was jt a uple years ago and they had plans to travel, but I did feel like fans served that answer and sce we didn't get to put the scene the fal cut of the fale. I jt wanted to clear that up for them. I don't thk the story's weaker for not havg . I jt felt that given some of the speculatn, owed the fans an answer.</p><p data-no-id="34" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Another one you unpacked was Wayne's relatnship wh his dghter.</strong></p><p data-no-id="35" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">It was a more extend scene once he and her are the r together and he asks her about her life, she tells him. I believe the exact l were Mahershala asks her, "We don't talk very much, do we?" And she says, "Well, we tend to leave voicemails. Mom was the one to ll every week dad." And we learn that there wasn't any giant rift between them other than what happens when a child grows up and dividuat and don't want what their parents have or to stay the place they me om. She hasn't broken om him, they jt aren't very good at reachg out.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="36" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Adaptatn, Brown hair, Long hair, Gture, Black hair, Conversatn, " tle="Adaptatn, Brown hair, Long hair, Gture, Black hair, Conversatn, " loadg="lazy" width="4200" height="2800" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="37" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>I've seen fans speculate that there's a moment where looks like Wayne remembers who Julie is and realiz she's alive.</strong></p><p data-no-id="38" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Yeah, 's after the ltle girl brgs him a glass of water. Aga, I wonr how much of the thgs I should jt leave to terperatn, but I don't believe he remembered who she was. I believe there was some kd of look and a ht of rememberg what he was dog there and then passed. I do thk given the subtleti of Mahershala's performance and the nuanc he brgs to , people n read that as they wish.</p><p data-no-id="39" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Did you want to leave Julie's fate open to terpretatn?</strong></p><p data-no-id="40" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Ultimately, that is really her at the end. And I thk 's enough to know that she ma . It's the same actrs that we wnsed before and also the surveillance vio om 1990.</p><div size="medium" data-embed="body-image" data-no-id="41" class="align-center size-medium embed css-1736von e1xqj1sx4"><div class="css-uwraif e1xqj1sx3"><img alt="Adaptatn, Conversatn, Event, Whe-llar worker, Bsperson, Su, " tle="Adaptatn, Conversatn, Event, Whe-llar worker, Bsperson, Su, " loadg="lazy" width="2000" height="1104" dg="async" data-nimg="1" style="lor: transparent; width: 100%; height: to;" siz="100vw" srcSet=" 640w, 980w, 1120w, 1200w, 1920w" src="" class="css-0 exi4f7p0" /><div class="css-swqnqv e1xqj1sx2"><figptn class="css-1am3yn9 enfs9c50"><span class="css-1mcfn5x e6iqd2">HBO</span></figptn></div></div></div><p data-no-id="42" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Tell me a ltle b about the big Hoyt scene, why was that somethg you chose to have so ntaed to that one nversatn?</strong></p><p data-no-id="43" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">We ntaed to that one scene bee I thk the expectatn is that this is the big, bad guy. And he's behd some nefar web of nspiracy and evil when really, 's a dissolute man mostly broken by tragedy who had actually distanced himself om the events of his dghter's life and exactly what happened. So for me, I thought was tertg that your big nontatn wh what you're expectg to be evil rnate is a more or ls broken man who don't know the whole story himself.</p><p data-no-id="44" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Where do you stand on Season Four at this pot?</strong></p><p data-no-id="45" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Well, I thk that the work would be very happy to do one. I'm a ltle uncid right now. There's a uple other projects that I have directly my headlights and I feel good about this as a trilogy. I do have a pretty ser crazy ia for another season. 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