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cJdXjE bric ContentHearRubricContaer-eTudtt iRsSlw"><a class="RubricLk-gRWSOU cjxQUZ bric__lk" href="/sex-love/sex"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Sex</span></a></div></div></div><h1 data-ttid="ContentHearHed" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearHed-NCyCC iUEiRd bjcNOB gydgrM">For Queer Women, What Counts as Losg Your Virgy?</h1></div><div class="ContentHearAccredatn-lfctVB etVsnJ ntent-hear__accredatn" data-ttid="ContentHearAccredatn"><div class="ContentHearDek-bIqFFZ bZgCVT">I wanted, sperately, to know if the sex I was havg “unted.”</div><div class="ContentHearByle-kmPyCa emiglw"><div class="ContentHearByleContent-dpPmNn DRFq"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl ContentHearByl-cZqgyJ bHLeKI"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gKcujo byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd fzZOZR gnILss byle__preamble">By </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fPqUbj IWACp eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/rachel-charlene-lewis">Rachel Charlene Lewis</a></span></span></p></div><time data-ttid="ContentHearPublishDate" dateTime="2018-02-07T12:50:02-05:00" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearPublishDate-eIBicG iUEiRd danQKH MlCHH">Febary 7, 2018</time></div></div><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--standard ContentHearAccredatnSocialIns-jorO fPzfaa ntent-hear__social-share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div></div></div><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR oEIBz persistent-asi persistent-asi--align-left" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jNgrSF sticky-box 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class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>After I <a href=">hooked up</a> wh someone, I snuck out of bed and to the darkns of my balny, alone. A nervo wreck, I texted my iend, practilly hyperventilatg bee of somethg I’d never expected to worry about at all.</p><p>Hopg for an answer, I texted: <em>Am I still a <a href=">virg</a> if I had sex wh a girl?</em></p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>My iend asked what I thought, but I really didn’t know. The woman I’d slept wh fed sex as peratn, so by her fn, we hadn’t had sex. She, as the olr, long-time queer the hookup, had the upper hand. I didn’t thk was up to me. After all, what did I know about the l of girl-on-girl sex, let alone what unts as losg your virgy? Could be sex if only half of the people volved thought was?</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="u7l3ua"></div></div><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Rachel wearg a leather jacket and takg a selfie a mirror" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE qDPBn ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cbKNQD asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd gVwuiM fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Rachel Charlene Lewis</span></div></figure><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">To me, felt like had to be sex, bee if not sex, what was ?</div><p>It was a panic I never expected to feel. I was super open-md. I was super femist. I should have been beyond thrilled and empowered by the fact that I’d had a posive sexual enunter. But stead of cuddlg the girl I was sleepg wh and baskg our post-sex glow, or even volizg my worry over whether or not we’d jt had sex, I was panickg solu.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>My inty has always been a blur—I’m <a href=">biracial</a>, bisexual, and queer—and ’s somethg that mak me feel murky, unsure of who I am. Virgy was jt the newt thg to eak out about. I stood the dark alone and tried to figure out, once aga, how to fe myself.</p><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">I wanted, sperately, to know if the sex I was havg “unted.” And I’m not the only one.</div><p>While many people have a straed relatnship wh the ncept of virgy (and whether or not exists to beg wh), for queer women, the role of virgy is pecially plited.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="r0jhbh"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="g63j"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa UJsCn body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>“Virgy is a socially nstcted ia that is fairly exclive to the heterosexual populatn,” <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Kristen Mark, Ph.D.</a> an associate profsor of health promotn at Universy of Kentucky and director of the sexual health promotn lab, told SELF. “There is very ltle language termg how virgy is ‘lost’ non-heterosexual populatns. Given the relatively large populatn of non-heterosexual populatns, the validy of virgy is poor.”</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>As a rult, many of are strsed out by the ncept, and left wonrg if there’s jt somethg other queer women know that we aren’t que on.</p><p>For Sam Roberts*, the lack of clary surroundg expectatns of queer women ma them hant to e out the first place. “I didn't e out as queer until I was 25,” they tell SELF. “I felt vulnerable bee of the lack of unrstandg around queer sexualy. Certaly has gotten better, but not havg a mol for what queer sex ([specifilly] for [cisgenr]-women) looks like via health class, media, or pop culture n make hard to know how to navigate that space.”</p><p>Alaa Leary, 24, exprsed siar tratns the first time they had sex. “My first sex partner and I had a lot of nversatns around sex and sexualy,” Leary tells SELF. “We were sentially figurg out on our own. Health class, for me, never tght me much about LGBTQ sex.”</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Close up on Rachel's cht and tattoo" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE qDPBn ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cbKNQD asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd gVwuiM fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Rachel Charlene Lewis</span></div></figure><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">When you’ve been socialized to view peratn as the hallmark of sexual terurse, ’s hard to know what unts as losg your virgy—or havg sex, for that matter.</div><p>“For many queer women, what they nsir sex is not nsired sex om a heteronormative perspective,” Karen Blair, Ph.D., profsor of psychology at St. Francis Xavier Universy and director of the <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">KLB Rearch Lab</a>, tells SELF. “So this n plite the qutn of when one lost their virgy, if ever.”</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="trtrtc"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" 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class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY fOzHsm summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH ktuuhV byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd fzZOZR gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Jenna Ryu</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw bGBSrw ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="xa1zvo"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs fObDao"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="nzrane"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa UJsCn body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>“Even if one expands the fn of havg lost one’s virgy to some form of vagal peratn, many queer women may never actually ‘lose’ their virgy—to the extent that is somethg that n be nsired ‘lost’ the first place.”</p><p>To be clear, <a href=">relyg on peratn</a> as a fg aspect of sex only serv to exclu all those who aren’t terted or physilly pable of engagg perative sexual acts—regardls of their sexual orientatn. Ultimately, requirg sex to be any one thg is herently difficult bee of the limls differenc among bodi and genals, and the simple fact that what feels pleasurable to one body n be borg at bt, and trmatizg at worst, to another.</p><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">The lack of a clear moment when one beme sexually active n make feel like the sex we have don’t unt.</div><p>We live a culture that overwhelmgly valu virgy, wh “losg your v-rd” still seen as a step to adulthood. It’s somethg that, as a former straight girl, I’d never even thought about, but, as a queer girl, I beme obssive over: When was I really, tly, havg sex?</p><p>It was pecially tratg nsirg that my straight iends seemed stantly thst to this stat of adults real, legimate sexual relatnships, while my relatnships were beg thought of as “foreplay” by the mastream, rather than valid sex acts.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Apparently, I wasn’t alone feelg this way. “We had straight iends who were havg sex and dog sexual thgs very fed ways,” Leary says. “One of my iends was obssed wh the ‘bas’ and sisted that her oral sex wh her boyiend didn't unt as sex bee was ‘only third base.’”</p><p>So what do that mean for those of who will only ever engage “foreplay?”</p><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">Consirg the larger stctur and cultural expectatns that make queer women feel valid, virgy is jt another way that we’re left feelg somehow ls than our straight and cisgenr unterparts.</div><p>“The primary impact of the ncept of virgy on queer women is an—even if unnsc—feelg of ferry or opprsn,” Dr. Mark explas. “We as a society place so much emphasis on virgy loss, yet is a ncept that is only relevant to a portn of the populatn. Women general, regardls of sexual orientatn, know they are sexual objects before they are sexually active due to the existence of the ncept of virgy.”</p><p>Consir the fact that most young women first learn about sex the ntext of virgy, which often exists unr the spe of “pury.” This, Dr. Mark says, n make women feel “fed by virgy stat.”</p><p>As a rult, when queer women do have sex, and don’t “unt” as their virgy beg “taken,” they n be left nfed about the enunter and unsure of how valid their sexual relatnships are to beg wh.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Rachel stg crosslegged wearg a black shirt that says the future is queer" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE qDPBn ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cbKNQD asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd gVwuiM fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Rachel Charlene Lewis</span></div></figure><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">At the end of the day, ’s up to queer women to fe what virgy—and sex—mean for ourselv.</div><p>“I would enurage queer women to fe their sexual liv ways that make sense for them,” Dr. Mark explas. “If they have created an ia around virgy that mak important to them, I enurage them to thk about alternate ways to fe that fs wh their experience. But I also enurage the rejectn of virgy for women who feel like don’t f for them.”</p><p>This lack of an expectatn (beyond nsent, of urse) when to how you have sex n actually be eeg, a way, Dr. Blair says.</p><p>“One of the bt thgs that queer women have gog for them their relatnships is the eedom to wre their own sexual scripts a way that sus them and their partners bt.”</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>*<em>Some nam have been changed.</em></p><p><strong>Related:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=">How the Hachi Magic Wand Helped Me Defe Queer Sex for Myself</a></li><li><a href=">How Alice 'The L Word' Affirmed My Inty as a Bisexual Woman</a></li><li><a href=">Your Well-Intentned ‘I Don’t See Genr’ Comment Mak Me Feel Invisible</a></li></ul></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="s0zz6"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS kLQIUk grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__le-barrier article__body"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"><asi class="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper-iBnuqk lfXXa-D" data-ttid="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper"><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--paywall-le-barrier" role="prentatn" aria-live="pole" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--paywall-le-barrier"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></asi></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ContentWrapperGrid-fvkmBv brYtrA grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__ntaer"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"></div></div></div></div></div></div></article><div class="ContentFooterWrapper-jVNdRG dTJkpP ArticlePageContentFooterGrid-ccsXYy eMZRHU article-body__footer"><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="ContributorsWrapper-eNpWFu hEUvfU ntributors" data-ttid="Contributors"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="TextBlockWrapper-bNZsMC dTomOc StyledTextblock-SJflO kHgSzz disclaimer grid-layout__ntent"><p class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ TextBlockText-gtrMkY iUEiRd Pbwma kQegaj">SELF do not provi medil advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 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CHERRY PICKG: VIRGY LOSS DEFNS AMONG GAY AND STRAIGHT CISGENR MEN

Gay virgy has s myths, and they are based on heterosexual and societal norms. You don't need to adhere to other people's thoughts on virgy. * losing gay virginity *

Cherry Pickg: Virgy Loss Defns Among Gay and Straight Cisgenr Men. J Homosex.

10 MYTHS ABOUT GAY VIRGY

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6%) cisgenr gay men.

Rults dite that more gay men than straight nsired M-M receptive anal terurse (i. Rults also dite that both gay and straight men almost unanimoly endorsed M-F penovagal sex to be nstutive of virgy loss.

REARCH HAS REVEALED THE AVERAGE AGE GAY MEN LOSE THEIR VIRGYPL, LOTS OF STRAIGHT PEOPLE DOG GAY {FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}{FONT:NORMAL 800 1.2REM/1.2 "D BOLD",SANS-SERIF;TEXT-TRANSFORM:NORMAL;LOR:HER;DISPLAY:LE-BLOCK;PADDG-BOTTOM:6PX;POSN:RELATIVE;TEXT-TRANSFORM:UPPERSE;}{BACKGROUND:#89308A;BOTTOM:0;NTENT:'';DISPLAY:BLOCK;HEIGHT:2PX;LEFT:0;POSN:ABSOLUTE;RIGHT:0;-WEBK-TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;TRANSN:ALL 0.2S EASE;WIDTH:100%;}{LEFT:51%;RIGHT:51%;WIDTH:0;}LIFEBY ZACHARY ZANEFEBARY 6, 2018/11:51 {HEIGHT:HER;DISPLAY:-WEBK-BOX;DISPLAY:-WEBK-FLEX;DISPLAY:-MS-FLEXBOX;DISPLAY:FLEX;POSN:RELATIVE;-WEBK-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-MS-FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;FLEX-WRAP:WRAP;-WEBK-ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-ALIGN:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-ALIGN:CENTER;ALIGN-EMS:CENTER;-WEBK-BOX-PACK:CENTER;-WEBK-JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-MS-FLEX-PACK:CENTER;JTIFY-NTENT:CENTER;-WEBK-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;-MS-TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;TRANSFORM-ORIG:CENTER;} IMG{HEIGHT:100%;WIDTH:100%;OBJECT-F:VER;}{HEIGHT:3802PX;WIDTH:5700PX;}GETTY IMAGYOUNG MEN FACE TO FACEBY ZACHARY ZANEFEBARY 6, 2018 / 11:51 AM{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"NEWSARTICLE","HEADLE":"REARCH HAS REVEALED THE AVERAGE AGE GAY MEN LOSE THEIR VIRGY","THUMBNAILURL":","DATEPUBLISHED":"2018-02-06T16:51:43.000+0000","DATEMODIFIED":"2018-02-06T16:51:43.000+0000","IMAGE":{"@NTEXT":","@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT","URL":","WIDTH":1920,"HEIGHT":1080},"URL":","THOR":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","NAME":"LOGO TV"},"MAENTYOFPAGE":{"@TYPE":"WEBPAGE","@ID":"},"PUBLISHER":{"@TYPE":"ORGANIZATN","@ID":","NAME":"LOGO TV","URL":","LOGO":{"@TYPE":"IMAGEOBJECT"}},"CREATOR":"ZACHARY ZANE","ARTICLESECTN":"LIFE"}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}NEW REARCH OM HAS REVEALED THE AVERAGE AGE GAY MEN LOSE THEIR VIRGY: 17.9-YEARS-OLD. STRAIGHT FOLKS, PARATIVELY, REPORTED LOSG THEIR VIRGY SLIGHTLY EARLIER, AT 17.6 {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}THE ONLE HEALTH SERVICE SURVEYED 500 AMERINS AND 500 EUROPEANS ABOUT "THE VAR SEXUAL JOURNEYS HUMANS EXPERIENCE OVER THE URSE OF A LIFETIME." THE REARCHERS AT DRED SURVEYED DIVIDUALS OF ALL AG—BABY BOOMERS TO LENNIALS—AND ALL SEXUAL {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}WHILE GAY PEOPLE TOOK A LTLE LONGER LOSE THEIR VIRGY, THE SURVEY FOUND THAT GAY RPONNTS HAD THEIR "SEXUAL AWAKENG"—WHICH WAS FED AS "INTIFYG IAL FEELGS AND URG"—AT AN EARLIER AGE OF 13.8 YEARS-OLD, PARED TO 15 YEARS-OLD FOR STRAIGHT {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IT'S UNCLEAR EXACTLY HOW "SEX" WAS FED. DO CLU ANAL PERATN? ORAL SEX? IT SEEMS AS IF THE REARCHERS LEFT THE FN OF SEX OPEN TO THE TERPRETATN OF {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}IN ADDN TO EXPLORG QUTNS OF PHYSIL SEX, THE REARCHERS ASKED RPONNTS IF THEY BELIEVED THAT SEXUALY EXISTED ON A SPECTM. WHILE NEARLY HALF OF LENNIALS (BORN POST-1980) BELIEVED THAT SEXUALY WAS A SPECTM, A MERE 11% OF GENERATN X-ERS (BORN 1960-1980) AND 5% OF BABY BOOMERS (BORN POST-WWII) AGREED WH THIS {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}HENCE AS NO SURPRISE THAT ONLY 7% OF GEN X-ERS AND 3% OF BABY BOOMERS SAID THEY WERE OPEN TO DATG A BISEXUAL PERSON. THIS WAS SIGNIFINTLY LS THAN THE 38% OF LENNIALS WHO REPORTED THAT THEY WOULD DATE A BISEXUAL {BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;PADDG:24PX 0;} A{LOR:#354A4E;-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;TEXT-RATN:UNRLE;} A:HOVER, A:FOC{-WEBK-TEXT-RATN:NONE;TEXT-RATN:NONE;} B, STRONG{FONT-WEIGHT:700;}INTERTGLY ENOUGH, HOWEVER, 25% OF BABY BOOMERS AND 20% OF GEN X-ERS REPORTED, "I WILL HAVE SEX WH SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX BEFORE I DIE."{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;CLEAR:BOTH;}{BOX-SIZG:BORR-BOX;MARG:0 TO;WIDTH:90%;M-WIDTH:288PX;MAX-WIDTH:1440PX;M-HEIGHT:194PX;}LATT NEWS

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Grad Stcture Sexual Defns: Categorizatns of Havg "Had Sex" and Virgy Loss Among Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women.

Versatily and HIV vulnerabily: vtigatg the proportn of Atralian gay men havg both sertive and receptive anal terurse.

As the only out young gay kid at my school, I took the advancement of my sexual experienc to my own hands and I did what we all do: I bought a fake ID and h the gay clubs. While I knew wouldn’t be like a gay llege eroti I’d read on (gay non, really), I rather naively wasn’t expectg the fall out.

I LOST MY VIRGY TO MY GAY NEIGHBOR. I SORTA REGRET .

Like a lot of 19-year-old virgs (gay or straight), Clayton Pettet is really ncerned about losg and has been thkg about his first time for the past three years. Unlike a lot of 19-year-old virgs, Pettet will not be able to endure this often awkward, re of passage the privacy of a backseat or a llege dorm room &mdash; he&#39;s gog to lose his virgy a gallery, bee ... art. * losing gay virginity *

I realize I fell to that old gay adage of placg my feelgs on a person who, for whatever reason, was never gog to vt them back me. Worst of all, though, the shame attached to the memori of those first tim marred how I would approach sex for years.It was listeng to Years & Years’ new song “Sanctify,” and seeg the band’s out gay sger Olly Alexanr talk about how the song was spired his sexual trysts wh straight men, that I realized that the feelgs are way more mon than people let on.

Sure, I know all about gay guys havg sex wh straight guys, but felt reassurg to see him scribe the “sat and sner role” he embodied durg those experienc, and to hear the uncertaty and melancholy weaved to the song.More than anythg though, was the repeated lyril mantra of “I won’t be ashamed.” Bee as queer people, we’re buried lifetime’s worth of shame so vivid and searg that oftentim ’s cripplg. When you’re talkg about sex, you shouldn’t foc on words like “gay, ” “queer, ” and “bisexual. How do we know that we are no longer gay virgs?

So, here are some myths about gay virgy to help you better navigate your gay sex and know how to talk about virgy. You mt have anal to lose your gay virgy. Losg your gay virgy, whether orally or anally, will likely be a msy, paful experience the first time.

THIS YOUNG GAY GUY IS LOSG HIS VIRGY AS PERFORMANCE ART

People have many ias of what means to lose your gay virgy. The gay virgy myths we exposed here n help you have a safer sex life and have fun.

New rearch om has revealed the average age gay men lose their virgy: 17. " The rearchers at DrEd surveyed dividuals of all ag—baby boomers to lennials—and all sexual gay people took a ltle longer lose their virgy, the survey found that gay rponnts had their "sexual awakeng"—which was fed as "intifyg ial feelgs and urg"—at an earlier age of 13. My gay neighbor was two olr than me.

Eher the gay neighbor knew I was horny or beg prsed beg rejected by women.

WHAT IS THE “NORMAL” TIME IN A GAY MAN’S LIFE FOR HIM TO LOSE HIS VIRGY?

Then, he asks me about havg terurse wh a gay guy.

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cJdXjE bric ContentHearRubricContaer-eTudtt iRsSlw"><a class="RubricLk-gRWSOU cjxQUZ bric__lk" href="/sex-love/sex"><span class="RubricName-fVtemz cLxcNi">Sex</span></a></div></div></div><h1 data-ttid="ContentHearHed" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearHed-NCyCC iUEiRd bjcNOB gydgrM">For Queer Women, What Counts as Losg Your Virgy?</h1></div><div class="ContentHearAccredatn-lfctVB etVsnJ ntent-hear__accredatn" data-ttid="ContentHearAccredatn"><div class="ContentHearDek-bIqFFZ bZgCVT">I wanted, sperately, to know if the sex I was havg “unted.”</div><div class="ContentHearByle-kmPyCa emiglw"><div class="ContentHearByleContent-dpPmNn DRFq"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl ContentHearByl-cZqgyJ bHLeKI"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH gKcujo byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd fzZOZR gnILss byle__preamble">By </span><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLk-eNWuiM ByleLk-gEnFiw iUEiRd fPqUbj IWACp eErqIx byle__name-lk button" href="/ntributor/rachel-charlene-lewis">Rachel Charlene Lewis</a></span></span></p></div><time data-ttid="ContentHearPublishDate" dateTime="2018-02-07T12:50:02-05:00" class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ ContentHearPublishDate-eIBicG iUEiRd danQKH MlCHH">Febary 7, 2018</time></div></div><div class="SocialInsWrapper-hKMEXV ffgPVr social-ins social-ins--standard ContentHearAccredatnSocialIns-jorO fPzfaa ntent-hear__social-share"><ul data-ttid="socialInslist" class="SocialInsList-cHVTIA ivmblD social-ins__list"></ul></div></div></div></div><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR oEIBz persistent-asi persistent-asi--align-left" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jNgrSF sticky-box 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class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>After I <a href=">hooked up</a> wh someone, I snuck out of bed and to the darkns of my balny, alone. A nervo wreck, I texted my iend, practilly hyperventilatg bee of somethg I’d never expected to worry about at all.</p><p>Hopg for an answer, I texted: <em>Am I still a <a href=">virg</a> if I had sex wh a girl?</em></p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>My iend asked what I thought, but I really didn’t know. The woman I’d slept wh fed sex as peratn, so by her fn, we hadn’t had sex. She, as the olr, long-time queer the hookup, had the upper hand. I didn’t thk was up to me. After all, what did I know about the l of girl-on-girl sex, let alone what unts as losg your virgy? Could be sex if only half of the people volved thought was?</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="u7l3ua"></div></div><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Rachel wearg a leather jacket and takg a selfie a mirror" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE qDPBn ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cbKNQD asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd gVwuiM fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Rachel Charlene Lewis</span></div></figure><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">To me, felt like had to be sex, bee if not sex, what was ?</div><p>It was a panic I never expected to feel. I was super open-md. I was super femist. I should have been beyond thrilled and empowered by the fact that I’d had a posive sexual enunter. But stead of cuddlg the girl I was sleepg wh and baskg our post-sex glow, or even volizg my worry over whether or not we’d jt had sex, I was panickg solu.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>My inty has always been a blur—I’m <a href=">biracial</a>, bisexual, and queer—and ’s somethg that mak me feel murky, unsure of who I am. Virgy was jt the newt thg to eak out about. I stood the dark alone and tried to figure out, once aga, how to fe myself.</p><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">I wanted, sperately, to know if the sex I was havg “unted.” And I’m not the only one.</div><p>While many people have a straed relatnship wh the ncept of virgy (and whether or not exists to beg wh), for queer women, the role of virgy is pecially plited.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="r0jhbh"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="g63j"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa UJsCn body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>“Virgy is a socially nstcted ia that is fairly exclive to the heterosexual populatn,” <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Kristen Mark, Ph.D.</a> an associate profsor of health promotn at Universy of Kentucky and director of the sexual health promotn lab, told SELF. “There is very ltle language termg how virgy is ‘lost’ non-heterosexual populatns. Given the relatively large populatn of non-heterosexual populatns, the validy of virgy is poor.”</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>As a rult, many of are strsed out by the ncept, and left wonrg if there’s jt somethg other queer women know that we aren’t que on.</p><p>For Sam Roberts*, the lack of clary surroundg expectatns of queer women ma them hant to e out the first place. “I didn't e out as queer until I was 25,” they tell SELF. “I felt vulnerable bee of the lack of unrstandg around queer sexualy. Certaly has gotten better, but not havg a mol for what queer sex ([specifilly] for [cisgenr]-women) looks like via health class, media, or pop culture n make hard to know how to navigate that space.”</p><p>Alaa Leary, 24, exprsed siar tratns the first time they had sex. “My first sex partner and I had a lot of nversatns around sex and sexualy,” Leary tells SELF. “We were sentially figurg out on our own. Health class, for me, never tght me much about LGBTQ sex.”</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Close up on Rachel's cht and tattoo" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE qDPBn ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cbKNQD asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd gVwuiM fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Rachel Charlene Lewis</span></div></figure><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">When you’ve been socialized to view peratn as the hallmark of sexual terurse, ’s hard to know what unts as losg your virgy—or havg sex, for that matter.</div><p>“For many queer women, what they nsir sex is not nsired sex om a heteronormative perspective,” Karen Blair, Ph.D., profsor of psychology at St. Francis Xavier Universy and director of the <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">KLB Rearch Lab</a>, tells SELF. “So this n plite the qutn of when one lost their virgy, if ever.”</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="trtrtc"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" 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class="SummaryItemByleWrapper-boCfbi cuRXdL summary-em__byle-date-in"><div class="SummaryItemBaseByle-fFbXkY fOzHsm summary-em__byle"><div class="summary-em__byle__ntent"><div data-ttid="BylWrapper" class="BylWrapper-KIudk irTIfE byl"><p class="ByleWrapper-jWHrLH ktuuhV byle byl__byle" data-ttid="ByleWrapper" emProp="thor" emType="><span emProp="name" class="ByleNamWrapper-jbHncj fuDQVo"><span data-ttid="ByleName" class="ByleName-kwmrLn cYaBaU byle__name"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BylePreamble-iJolpQ iUEiRd fzZOZR gnILss byle__preamble">By </span>Jenna Ryu</span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></li><li><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ RecircMostPopularSummaryItem-jQxxiw bGBSrw ad ad--asi"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--asi" data-no-id="xa1zvo"></div></div></li></ul><div class="RecircMostPopularFooter-enPjgs fObDao"></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="nzrane"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa UJsCn body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>“Even if one expands the fn of havg lost one’s virgy to some form of vagal peratn, many queer women may never actually ‘lose’ their virgy—to the extent that is somethg that n be nsired ‘lost’ the first place.”</p><p>To be clear, <a href=">relyg on peratn</a> as a fg aspect of sex only serv to exclu all those who aren’t terted or physilly pable of engagg perative sexual acts—regardls of their sexual orientatn. Ultimately, requirg sex to be any one thg is herently difficult bee of the limls differenc among bodi and genals, and the simple fact that what feels pleasurable to one body n be borg at bt, and trmatizg at worst, to another.</p><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">The lack of a clear moment when one beme sexually active n make feel like the sex we have don’t unt.</div><p>We live a culture that overwhelmgly valu virgy, wh “losg your v-rd” still seen as a step to adulthood. It’s somethg that, as a former straight girl, I’d never even thought about, but, as a queer girl, I beme obssive over: When was I really, tly, havg sex?</p><p>It was pecially tratg nsirg that my straight iends seemed stantly thst to this stat of adults real, legimate sexual relatnships, while my relatnships were beg thought of as “foreplay” by the mastream, rather than valid sex acts.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>Apparently, I wasn’t alone feelg this way. “We had straight iends who were havg sex and dog sexual thgs very fed ways,” Leary says. “One of my iends was obssed wh the ‘bas’ and sisted that her oral sex wh her boyiend didn't unt as sex bee was ‘only third base.’”</p><p>So what do that mean for those of who will only ever engage “foreplay?”</p><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">Consirg the larger stctur and cultural expectatns that make queer women feel valid, virgy is jt another way that we’re left feelg somehow ls than our straight and cisgenr unterparts.</div><p>“The primary impact of the ncept of virgy on queer women is an—even if unnsc—feelg of ferry or opprsn,” Dr. Mark explas. “We as a society place so much emphasis on virgy loss, yet is a ncept that is only relevant to a portn of the populatn. Women general, regardls of sexual orientatn, know they are sexual objects before they are sexually active due to the existence of the ncept of virgy.”</p><p>Consir the fact that most young women first learn about sex the ntext of virgy, which often exists unr the spe of “pury.” This, Dr. Mark says, n make women feel “fed by virgy stat.”</p><p>As a rult, when queer women do have sex, and don’t “unt” as their virgy beg “taken,” they n be left nfed about the enunter and unsure of how valid their sexual relatnships are to beg wh.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Rachel stg crosslegged wearg a black shirt that says the future is queer" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE qDPBn ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI cbKNQD asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd gVwuiM fNaHcW ptn__cred">Courty of Rachel Charlene Lewis</span></div></figure><div role="headg" aria-level="3" class="headg-h3">At the end of the day, ’s up to queer women to fe what virgy—and sex—mean for ourselv.</div><p>“I would enurage queer women to fe their sexual liv ways that make sense for them,” Dr. Mark explas. “If they have created an ia around virgy that mak important to them, I enurage them to thk about alternate ways to fe that fs wh their experience. But I also enurage the rejectn of virgy for women who feel like don’t f for them.”</p><p>This lack of an expectatn (beyond nsent, of urse) when to how you have sex n actually be eeg, a way, Dr. Blair says.</p><p>“One of the bt thgs that queer women have gog for them their relatnships is the eedom to wre their own sexual scripts a way that sus them and their partners bt.”</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>*<em>Some nam have been changed.</em></p><p><strong>Related:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=">How the Hachi Magic Wand Helped Me Defe Queer Sex for Myself</a></li><li><a href=">How Alice 'The L Word' Affirmed My Inty as a Bisexual Woman</a></li><li><a href=">Your Well-Intentned ‘I Don’t See Genr’ Comment Mak Me Feel Invisible</a></li></ul></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="s0zz6"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS kLQIUk grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__le-barrier article__body"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"><asi class="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper-iBnuqk lfXXa-D" data-ttid="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper"><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--paywall-le-barrier" role="prentatn" aria-live="pole" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--paywall-le-barrier"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></asi></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ContentWrapperGrid-fvkmBv brYtrA grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__ntaer"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"></div></div></div></div></div></div></article><div class="ContentFooterWrapper-jVNdRG dTJkpP ArticlePageContentFooterGrid-ccsXYy eMZRHU article-body__footer"><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="ContributorsWrapper-eNpWFu hEUvfU ntributors" data-ttid="Contributors"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="TextBlockWrapper-bNZsMC dTomOc StyledTextblock-SJflO kHgSzz disclaimer grid-layout__ntent"><p class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ TextBlockText-gtrMkY iUEiRd Pbwma kQegaj">SELF do not provi medil advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 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