The Archbishop of Canterbury kept bishops on board but his speech may not soothe gay ngregants.
Contents:
- ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY NMNS GAY MARRIAGE, BUT ANGLIN BISHOPS REMA DIVID
- ARCHBISHOP WILL NOT GIVE NEW PRAYER BLSG FOR GAY UPL
- CHURCH OF ENGLAND BISHOP REVEALS HE IS A GAY RELATNSHIP
- ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ADMS TO GAY 'CHALLENGE' FOR CHURCH
- PARTNERED GAY PRIT APPOTED AN OF CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL
- THE ANGLIN CHURCH’S ‘KICK THE GUTS’ TO GAY PARISHNERS
- CHURCH OF ENGLAND SAYS NO TO GAY MARRIAGE BUT ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY WEL BLSGS FOR SAME-SEX UPL HISTORIC FIRST
- JT WELBY WEL BLSGS FOR GAY UPL BUT WILL NOT PERFORM THEM
- MANY BRONS HAVE CHANGED THEIR MDS ON GAY MARRIAGE
- WHAT THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY SHOULD HAVE SAID ABOUT GAY RIGHTSDON’T GIVE INJT WELBY SAID THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND N’T SH ON GAY MARRIAGE BEE ULD ULD BEE A RATNALE FOR VLENCE AGAST CHRISTIANS AI. BUT THAT LETS THE MURRERS W.GENE ROBSONUPDATED JUL. 12, 2017 2:06PM EDT / PUBLISHED APR. 13, 2014 5:45AM EDT BEN CURTIS/API ADMIRE JT WELBY. THE MTEE TO NOMATE THE NEXT ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY WAS OBVLY THKG OUTSI THE BOX WHEN THEY WENT BEYOND THE UAL EP-THKG, THEOLOGIL WIZARDS AND AMICIANS TO NOMATE THIS THOROUGHLY 21ST-CENTURY CHRISTIAN TO LEAD THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND. WELBY SPENT MOST OF HIS ADULT LIFE THE BS WORLD, GETTG ORDAED AS A MIDDLE-AGED MAN, AND SERVG AS THE BISHOP OF DURHAM FOR JT OVER A YEAR BEFORE BEG ARCHBISHOP. HE IS A MAN OF EP FAH AND BRILLIANT TELLECT, WH A HEALTHY DOSE OF MORNY AND REALISM. I THK THEY MA A GREAT CHOICE. WHICH IS WHY I WAS STUNNED TO READ AN ACUNT OF ARCHBISHOP WELBY’S RPONSE TO A LL- SHOW QUTNER ABOUT THE NEWLY-IMPLEMENTED MARRIAGE EQUALY LAW ENGLAND. IN RPONSE TO A QUTN ABOUT WHY THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND DO NOT ALLOW S CLERGY TO OFFICIATE AT CIVIL SAME-SEX MARRIAG, ARCHBISHOP WELBY RPOND: “I HAVE STOOD BY GRAVIS AI OF A GROUP OF CHRISTIANS WHO HAD BEEN ATTACKED BEE OF SOMETHG THAT HAD HAPPENED AMERI. WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT. WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT,” WELBY SAID. IF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND CELEBRATED GAY MARRIAG, HE ADD, “THE IMPACT OF THAT ON CHRISTIANS FAR OM HERE, SOUTH SUDAN, PAKISTAN, NIGERIA AND OTHER PLAC WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY TASTROPHIC. EVERYTHG WE SAY HERE GO ‘ROUND THE WORLD.”WELBY WAS REFERRG TO VLENCE AGAST CHRISTIANS AI THAT THE PERPETRATORS HAVE JTIFIED NNECTN WH SUPPOSEDLY GAY-IENDLY ACTIVI BY THE ANGLIN CHURCH THE UNED STAT AND CANADA. HE SAID HE HAD BEEN WARNED DURG A VIS TO SOUTH SUDAN THAT CHRISTIANS ULD FACE VLENCE OM MLIM NEIGHBORS WHO BELIEVED THAT HAVG CHRISTIANS NEARBY WOULD MAKE THEM GAY. IN RPONSE TO SUBSEQUENT QUTNG, THE ARCHBISHOP HAS TRIED TO WALK BACK A B OM THIS STATEMENT, OR AT LEAST ADDG SOME QUALIFIERS, DITG THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, SUCH TERNATNAL NCERNS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO ACUNT WHEN DISCERNG THE CHURCH’S RPONSE TO THE ISSUE OF MARRIAGE EQUALY. THAT’S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT I FEAR THAT THE DAMAGE WAS ALREADY DONE BY HIS ORIGAL STATEMENTS. AFTER ALL, WAS NOT THE LLER WHO BROUGHT UP AI, BUT ARCHBISHOP WELBY HIMSELF, ARGUG THAT SUCH NSIRATNS WERE RELEVANT TO THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND’S LACK OF SUPPORT FOR MARRIAGE EQUALY. IT WAS THE ARCHBISHOP HIMSELF WHO LKED THIS LLER’S QUTN TO THE SUATN AI.IT IS ABSURD TO BUY TO A GROUP OF MURRERS’ RATNALIZATNS FOR THEIR ACTNS, UNTENTNALLY GIVG LEGIMACY TO THE PERPETRATORS’ REASONS FOR MURR. THE ARCHBISHOP CERTALY KNOWS THAT THE REASONS BEHD SUCH VLENCE ARE PLITED AND NUMERO, CLUDG BOTH RELIG AND LONG-STANDG CULTURAL NFLICTS. SURELY, THE MLIM EXTREMISTS WERE LOOKG FOR A “REASON” TO MURR THEIR CHRISTIAN UNTRYMEN, AND AS IS SO OFTEN THE SE, THEY ED “LET’S BLAME THE GAYS!”THE ARCHBISHOP SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT YOU DON’T ROLVE THE ANGER AND VLENCE OF BULLI AND HOSTAGE-TAKERS BY GIVG TO THEM. THEY WILL BE EMBOLNED THEIR TACTICS AND WILL ONLY MAND MORE AND MORE. I’M REMD OF THE ABED WIFE WHO BLAM HERSELF FOR HER ABE AND ROLV TO TRY NOT TO DO ANYTHG TO PROVOKE HER HBAND BEE SHE IS “RPONSIBLE” FOR HER OWN MISTREATMENT. HER LIBERATN IS PENNT ON HER REJECTG THE NOTN THAT HER BEHAVR IS THE E OF THE VLENCE AGAST HER. SIARLY, ARCHBISHOP WELBY WOULD HAVE DONE WELL TO PUT THE BLAME DIRECTLY WHERE BELONGS—ON THE MURRERS THEMSELV—STEAD OF SUATG THAT ED, ANGLINS WORKG FOR LGBT RIGHTS ELSEWHERE “ED” THIS ATROCY.SO HOW MIGHT THE ARCHBISHOP HAVE RPOND DIFFERENTLY? PERHAPS SOMETHG LIKE THIS: “LOOK, THE CHURCH MT NSIR MANY THGS DISCERNG WHETHER A CHANGE IS WARRANTED OUR NSIRATN OF BLSG THE MARRIAG OF SAME-SEX UPL: WHAT SCRIPTUR SAYS, HOW THE CHURCH’S HISTORIL UNRSTANDG HAS VELOPED, AND OUR OWN EXPERIENCE OF GAY UPL’ RELATNSHIPS. WE ARE THE MIDST OF THAT DISCERNMENT RIGHT NOW. IN ADDN, WE MT ALWAYS BE AWARE THAT OUR CISNS HERE ENGLAND ARE BEG WATCHED BY THE WORLD’S 80 LN ANGLINS AND THEIR ENEMI; SOMETIM BEG ED AS AN IRRATNAL AND UNWARRANTED EXCE BY THOSE ENEMI FOR VLENCE AGAST CHRISTIANS. I HAVE SEEN THE GRAV OF THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED BEE OF THE UNJT AND IRRATNAL NNECTNS BETWEEN LGBT PEOPLE AND MURR, AND BREAKS MY HEART.EVEN SO, WE NNOT GIVE TO THE VLENT ACTS OF BULLI AND MT DISCERN AND THEN PURSUE GOD’S WILL FOR ALL OF GOD’S CHILDREN. VLENCE AND MURR OF CHRISTIANS IS PLORABLE, BUT SO IS VLENCE AGAST AND MURR OF LGBT PEOPLE. AND AS THE SPIRUAL LEAR OF THE WORLD’S ANGLINS, PERM ME TO POT OUT, IS NOT HELPFUL FOR SOME OF OUR OWN ANGLIN ARCHBISHOPS, BISHOPS AND CLERGY TO JO SUPPORT OF ANTI-GAY LEGISLATN AND RHETORIC THEIR OWN UNTRI, THEREBY FUELG THE HATRED AND VLENCE AGAST NOCENT LGBT PEOPLE, WHO ARE BEG CRIMALIZED AND MURRED FOR WHO THEY ARE. THE ARE PLITED ISSU, AND WH GOD’S GUIDANCE, WE WILL DISCERN WHAT IS RIGHT TO SAY AND DO.”THE ROLE OF THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY IS A PLITED AND LITE ONE. I PRAY FOR HIM EVERY DAY, THAT HE MIGHT FD THE WISDOM BOTH TO FACILATE THE UNY OF THE ANGLIN COMMUNN AND TO LEAD TOWARD THE GREATER TTH OF GOD’S LOVE FOR ALL OF GOD’S CHILDREN. I DO NOT ENVY HIM THIS MISTRY OF RENCILIATN, WHICH IS GHT WH PLEXY AND NUANCE. BUT IS NOT HELPFUL WHEN HE FEEDS THE NOTN THAT ONE PART OF THE CHURCH SHOULD SAY NO TO S DISCERNMENT OF GOD’S WILL FOR THE CHURCH’S WNS BEE THE NTEXT AND UNRSTANDG OF GOD’S WILL ARE DIFFERENT OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNN.WHILE THE ARCHBISHOP IS RIGHT TO POT OUT THAT LGBT ACTIVISTS THE CHURCH SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THEIR WORDS AND ACTNS N E UNTEND HARM TO OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD, HE SHOULD TAKE HIS OWN ADVICE AND REALIZE THAT HIS WORDS N LIKEWISE E HARM—TO THE LNS OF LGBT ANGLINS AND WIR LGBT MUNY AROUND THE WORLD. WHILE WE EPLY GRIEVE THE ATHS OF CHRISTIANS ANYWHERE, WE SHOULD ALSO GRIEVE AND OPPOSE THE OPPRSN, VLENCE AND ATHS PERPETRATED ON LGBT PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. AFTER ALL, THEY ARE VICTIMS TOO.THE RIGHT REVEREND V. GENE ROBSON IS THE RECENTLY RETIRED IX EPISPAL BISHOP OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND A SENR FELLOW AT THE CENTER FOR AMERIN PROGRS, WASHGTON, DC. FOLLOW HIM ON TWTER @BISHOPGROBSON. GENE ROBSON
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ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY NMNS GAY MARRIAGE, BUT ANGLIN BISHOPS REMA DIVID
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ARCHBISHOP WILL NOT GIVE NEW PRAYER BLSG FOR GAY UPL
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Epispal legislative body, or General Conventn, voted to thorize gay marriag their HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APPIn 2009, Anglin natnal lears Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda and other church provc helped create the Anglin Church North Ameri, as a theologilly nservative alternative to the U. The archbishop of Canterbury will not personally bls same-sex civil marriag spe the Church of England’s historic change of Welby said he was “extremely joyful” at proposals to allow clergy to offer God’s blsg to same sex upl who have legally married, but said he would impose a “self-nyg ordance” for the sake of uny the global Anglin church that he, a divi at the top of the Church of England, Stephen Cottrell, the archbishop of York, said he would personally offer blsgs to same-sex upl and strongly suggted he did not believe gay sex was two archbishops were givg tails of the remendatn by bishops to end years of paful and bter bate wh the church wh a promise that matas s formal teachg that marriage is between a man and a woman, but perms clergy to bls same-sex civil marriag.
CHURCH OF ENGLAND BISHOP REVEALS HE IS A GAY RELATNSHIP
Acknowledgg disagreements among the bishops on the issu, they said a letter to the church: “The differenc among you are also prent among … We are partnered, sgle, celibate, married, divorced, widowed, bereaved; heterosexual, gay, bisexual and same-sex attracted.
ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY ADMS TO GAY 'CHALLENGE' FOR CHURCH
”Asked whether he nsired gay sex was a s, he said: “I believe the great gift of sexual physil timacy [is] to be cherished, [and] belongs stable, lovg, mted relatnships. ”The bishops’ remendatns, which will be put to the church’’s lg body, the general synod, next month, “puts the C of E a new place – a good place”, said past newsletter promotnafter newsletter promotnWh his voice breakg wh emotn, he add: “I’m really pleased ’s changg for my gay iends. Delays meant this was the first sce 2008 and there had been speculatn tensns uld n high, wh the risk even of divisn or the acturg of the munn that reprents more than 80 ln people the nference was voted to a gamut of issu, the jeopardy surround a predictable qutn which, neverthels, many nservative church said they saw as fundamental: homosexualy and same-sex fact, the reason the nference didn't take place 2018 was bee was felt the munn was not ready to fd a way forward on the issue.
The archbishops of Nigeria, Rwanda and Uganda boytted this Lambeth Conference over the issue, prottg that any "regnn of homosexual relatns" was biblil if the ambn had been to hold thgs together among those who did attend, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Jt Welby, appears to have found the formula for now.
PARTNERED GAY PRIT APPOTED AN OF CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL
PragmatismIt was set out a pivotal speech which, on the one hand, he reaffirmed a rolutn passed by the Lambeth Conference 1998 which said same sex marriage was wrong and "homosexual practic" are patible wh scripture.
A nsultatn procs is due to report later this year, but gay rights advot wh the Church are not nfint will lead to source, PA MediaImage ptn, Jt Welby led the openg service of the nferenceGiven the untri which Anglinism is growg, is nservative views that are growg globally. Existential threatMany other bishops at the nference bristle at the fact there has been so much foc the media and outsi world on the issue of pot to the fellowship and llaboratn on issu like poverty and nflict that has been fostered durg the nference, and give those as important exampl of why is ccial to keep the munn is Jt Welby himself who talked about the issue of same-sex marriage as beg a potential existential threat to the church - some untri if church challenge the hard le historil posn on , others if they do not make archbishop may well have been talkg about his own Church the latter tegory, as one of those that need to reform if is to stay relevant and avoid beg subject to may feel that he has ma a signifint promise by sayg natnal church choosg to nduct same-sex marriag will not be sanctned, but here at home, even jt by entertag and reaffirmg a posn that allows gay people to be viewed unequally, as he did at this nference, he risks dog precisely what he says should be on this story. The Church of England this week said wants to offer blsgs to gay upl but would not allow prits to marry Welby said he celebrat the change, but has a "rponsibily for the whole munn" Church also issued a formal apology for the "shameful" tim had "rejected or exclud" LGBTQI+ ntrast to Archbishop Welby's stance, the Archbishop of York said he will offer the prayers which he believ puts the church a "better place", beg tearful as he ma his statement.
THE ANGLIN CHURCH’S ‘KICK THE GUTS’ TO GAY PARISHNERS
Earlier this week, bishops told the BBC the church would not change a teachg to allow prits to marry same-sex upl, but that will offer "prayers of ditn, thanksgivg or God's blsg" to gay upl followg a civil marriage or proposal will be bated at the Church's equivalent of a parliament - the General Synod - next marriage has been legal England and Wal sce 2013, but when the law changed the Church did not alter s Welby told a prs nference on Friday that he would "ntue to pray for all those who e seekg prayer and to pray wh love", cludg those who were gay, straight, or who had worri about their relatnships. Media ptn, Watch: The Archbishop of York was emotnal about the Church of England's apologyMr Cottrell, who grew emotnal while speakg at the prs nference, said: "I'm really pleased 's changg for my gay iends, " acknowledgg that the change is not enough for some people. "'I'm nsirg leavg the Church'Image source, MathewImage ptn, Gay Christian Mathew Hulbert says LGBT Anglins should be celebrated not jt toleratedGay Anglin Mathew Hulbert told the BBC he felt "great disappotment" over the bishops' cisn not to propose same-sex marriage to the General Synod and is nsirg leavg the Church of England.
"Dr Steven Croft, the Bishop of Oxford, said the church has "further to go" on the issue and lled for a change s doctre to allow gay marriage, beg the most senr bishop the Church of England to do so.
The bishop of Grantham has bee the first Church of England bishop to publicly clare that he is gay and a a move that will be embraced by mpaigners for equaly but is likely to alarm nservativ who fear the church is movg away om tradnal teachgs, Nicholas Chamberla said there had been no secret about his long-term - albe celibate - relatnship wh his a threat by a Sunday newspaper to reveal Chamberla’s sexualy had phed him to speak publicly. Its tradnal belief that marriage is a unn of a man and a woman has e unr prsure om societal change and growg mands wh the church that gay people should be accepted and allowed to marry creasg number of prits have married or plan to marry same-sex partners fiance of the ban on gay clergy week, a group of C of E nservative evangelil parish held a meetg to discs their rponse to what they claimed to be the waterg-down of the thory of the Bible on the issue of sexualy, what was billed as potentially the first step towards a breakaway om the Anglin church. Strsg that he did not want to bee known as “the gay bishop”, he said he hoped that the impact of his openns would be “that we n say the bishop of Grantham is gay and is gettg on wh his life and mistry”.
CHURCH OF ENGLAND SAYS NO TO GAY MARRIAGE BUT ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY WEL BLSGS FOR SAME-SEX UPL HISTORIC FIRST
David Hope, the former archbishop of York, said that his sexualy was a "grey area" after beg threatened wh beg "outed"; and former archbishop of Canterbury Gee Carey claimed to have knowgly nsecrated two celibate gay men as bishops the 2003, the London Tim reported that the Right Rev Peter Wheatley, then the bishop of Edmonton, was gay and livg wh his partner. The new archbishop of Canterbury, Jt Welby, has highlighted the challenge faced by the Anglin church over gay relatnships ahead of his enthronement on Thursday, sayg he has iends who are long-term gay relatnships of "stunng" 105th archbishop of Canterbury and lear of the worldwi Anglin muny, who will bee the first holr of the office to be enthroned by a woman at the afternoon ceremony, has wrten to Peter Tatchell offerg to discs his attu to gay marriage after the veteran mpaigner cricised an open a pre-enthronement terview wh the BBC, Welby said that while he did not have doubts about the church's policy opposg same-sex marriag he remaed "challenged as to how we rpond to ".
"You see gay relatnships that are jt stunng the qualy of the relatnship, " the 57-year-old said, addg that he had "particular iends where I regnise that and am eply challenged by ".
"Separately, the Tim reported that Welby had emailed Tatchell after the mpaigner released an open letter ahead of the enthronement qutng Welby's rejectn of gay letter said: "You claim that you are not homophobic but a person who oppos legal equaly for LGBT people is homophobic – the same way that a person who oppos equal rights for black people is racist. In 2008, at the last Lambeth Conference, then-New Hampshire Bishop Gene Robson, the first openly gay and partnered bishop the Anglin Communn, was not allowed to attend by then-Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams.
JT WELBY WEL BLSGS FOR GAY UPL BUT WILL NOT PERFORM THEM
AdvertisementSKIP ADVERTISEMENTDivisns over the acceptance of homosexualy have proved tractable both on a global level and si even liberal-leang untri like New Fuller/Prs Associatn, via Getty ImagWELLINGTON, New Zealand — Craig Watson has spent his life searchg for a church that accepts him fully as a gay man. ” In late July, Jt Welby, the archbishop of Canterbury and global lear of the Anglin Church (known the Uned Stat as the Epispal Church), affirmed as church policy a 1998 statement that rejects “homosexual practice as nsistent wh scripture.
”Divisns over the acceptance of homosexualy have raised doubts about whether the Anglin Church n rema uned, a nflict that has played out both on a global level and si even liberal-leang untri like New Zealand, where some Anglins have broken away to prerve tradnal tensns have pulled at the Anglin Church, which has 85 ln members worldwi, for s. In recent years, however, natnal church Wal, Stland, Canada, Brazil and Mexi have voted to perm clergy to eher officiate or bls same-sex divisns were on display aga last month at Lambeth, the Anglin Church’s cennial nference, where the 650 bishops attendance argued over the treatment of lbian, gay and transgenr Rowland/Getty ImagThe archbishops of Nigeria, Rwanda and Uganda did not attend Lambeth prott of “biblil revisnism” by liberal church.
But he also sought to mollify nservative bishops, who reprent a majory of Anglins worldwi, by affirmg the 1998 statement llg homosexualy nsistent wh archbishop said that for church many untri, changg tradnal teachg on same-sex relatnships “challeng their very existence. ” At the same time, he noted, church elsewhere face “risn, ntempt and even attack” if they fail to support gay and transgenr equivalence drew new cricism om liberal Anglins like Mr. ”In an example of how the global divisns over homosexualy have been cemented, Atralian Anglins sought to tervene New Zealand, even though natnal church tradnally avoid terjectg themselv each other’s affairs, Dr.
MANY BRONS HAVE CHANGED THEIR MDS ON GAY MARRIAGE
Archbishop of Canterbury Cght Homosexual Vortex of his own makgUK and Amerin Epispal Bishops berate Welby for his double standardBy vg one homosexual bishop, Welby has vlated Lambeth rolutn 1:10.
The Archbishop of Canterbury has found himself ught a sexual vortex of his own makg and om which he nnot extract himself bee he steadfastly ref to acknowledge that homosexual behavr is s and that God has exprsed himself unequivolly scripture. Wh each passg day, liberal and revisnist bishops the US and England are spewg their fx outrage over Welby's failure to allow spo of homosexual bishops to jo them the trench to hear the glossalalia cri of theologians exegetg I Peter. The are signed for one purpose only, to break down the ristance of orthodox bishops so they n feel the fx pa of sodome bishops who n't wa to tell them that any opposn to their behavr is a mark of hate and homophobia.
Of urse, HOD Print Gay Jenngs had already oped that moni should be whheld to teach Welby a lson about who really ns the show and who holds the purse strgs, but we all know that that is not gog to happen bee "love" Bishop Michael Curry would lose all his fluence if the purse strgs tightened and the check book was whdrawn.
WHAT THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY SHOULD HAVE SAID ABOUT GAY RIGHTSDON’T GIVE INJT WELBY SAID THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND N’T SH ON GAY MARRIAGE BEE ULD ULD BEE A RATNALE FOR VLENCE AGAST CHRISTIANS AI. BUT THAT LETS THE MURRERS W.GENE ROBSONUPDATED JUL. 12, 2017 2:06PM EDT / PUBLISHED APR. 13, 2014 5:45AM EDT BEN CURTIS/API ADMIRE JT WELBY. THE MTEE TO NOMATE THE NEXT ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY WAS OBVLY THKG OUTSI THE BOX WHEN THEY WENT BEYOND THE UAL EP-THKG, THEOLOGIL WIZARDS AND AMICIANS TO NOMATE THIS THOROUGHLY 21ST-CENTURY CHRISTIAN TO LEAD THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND. WELBY SPENT MOST OF HIS ADULT LIFE THE BS WORLD, GETTG ORDAED AS A MIDDLE-AGED MAN, AND SERVG AS THE BISHOP OF DURHAM FOR JT OVER A YEAR BEFORE BEG ARCHBISHOP. HE IS A MAN OF EP FAH AND BRILLIANT TELLECT, WH A HEALTHY DOSE OF MORNY AND REALISM. I THK THEY MA A GREAT CHOICE. WHICH IS WHY I WAS STUNNED TO READ AN ACUNT OF ARCHBISHOP WELBY’S RPONSE TO A LL- SHOW QUTNER ABOUT THE NEWLY-IMPLEMENTED MARRIAGE EQUALY LAW ENGLAND. IN RPONSE TO A QUTN ABOUT WHY THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND DO NOT ALLOW S CLERGY TO OFFICIATE AT CIVIL SAME-SEX MARRIAG, ARCHBISHOP WELBY RPOND: “I HAVE STOOD BY GRAVIS AI OF A GROUP OF CHRISTIANS WHO HAD BEEN ATTACKED BEE OF SOMETHG THAT HAD HAPPENED AMERI. WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT. WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT,” WELBY SAID. IF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND CELEBRATED GAY MARRIAG, HE ADD, “THE IMPACT OF THAT ON CHRISTIANS FAR OM HERE, SOUTH SUDAN, PAKISTAN, NIGERIA AND OTHER PLAC WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY TASTROPHIC. EVERYTHG WE SAY HERE GO ‘ROUND THE WORLD.”WELBY WAS REFERRG TO VLENCE AGAST CHRISTIANS AI THAT THE PERPETRATORS HAVE JTIFIED NNECTN WH SUPPOSEDLY GAY-IENDLY ACTIVI BY THE ANGLIN CHURCH THE UNED STAT AND CANADA. HE SAID HE HAD BEEN WARNED DURG A VIS TO SOUTH SUDAN THAT CHRISTIANS ULD FACE VLENCE OM MLIM NEIGHBORS WHO BELIEVED THAT HAVG CHRISTIANS NEARBY WOULD MAKE THEM GAY. IN RPONSE TO SUBSEQUENT QUTNG, THE ARCHBISHOP HAS TRIED TO WALK BACK A B OM THIS STATEMENT, OR AT LEAST ADDG SOME QUALIFIERS, DITG THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, SUCH TERNATNAL NCERNS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO ACUNT WHEN DISCERNG THE CHURCH’S RPONSE TO THE ISSUE OF MARRIAGE EQUALY. THAT’S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT I FEAR THAT THE DAMAGE WAS ALREADY DONE BY HIS ORIGAL STATEMENTS. AFTER ALL, WAS NOT THE LLER WHO BROUGHT UP AI, BUT ARCHBISHOP WELBY HIMSELF, ARGUG THAT SUCH NSIRATNS WERE RELEVANT TO THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND’S LACK OF SUPPORT FOR MARRIAGE EQUALY. IT WAS THE ARCHBISHOP HIMSELF WHO LKED THIS LLER’S QUTN TO THE SUATN AI.IT IS ABSURD TO BUY TO A GROUP OF MURRERS’ RATNALIZATNS FOR THEIR ACTNS, UNTENTNALLY GIVG LEGIMACY TO THE PERPETRATORS’ REASONS FOR MURR. THE ARCHBISHOP CERTALY KNOWS THAT THE REASONS BEHD SUCH VLENCE ARE PLITED AND NUMERO, CLUDG BOTH RELIG AND LONG-STANDG CULTURAL NFLICTS. SURELY, THE MLIM EXTREMISTS WERE LOOKG FOR A “REASON” TO MURR THEIR CHRISTIAN UNTRYMEN, AND AS IS SO OFTEN THE SE, THEY ED “LET’S BLAME THE GAYS!”THE ARCHBISHOP SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT YOU DON’T ROLVE THE ANGER AND VLENCE OF BULLI AND HOSTAGE-TAKERS BY GIVG TO THEM. THEY WILL BE EMBOLNED THEIR TACTICS AND WILL ONLY MAND MORE AND MORE. I’M REMD OF THE ABED WIFE WHO BLAM HERSELF FOR HER ABE AND ROLV TO TRY NOT TO DO ANYTHG TO PROVOKE HER HBAND BEE SHE IS “RPONSIBLE” FOR HER OWN MISTREATMENT. HER LIBERATN IS PENNT ON HER REJECTG THE NOTN THAT HER BEHAVR IS THE E OF THE VLENCE AGAST HER. SIARLY, ARCHBISHOP WELBY WOULD HAVE DONE WELL TO PUT THE BLAME DIRECTLY WHERE BELONGS—ON THE MURRERS THEMSELV—STEAD OF SUATG THAT ED, ANGLINS WORKG FOR LGBT RIGHTS ELSEWHERE “ED” THIS ATROCY.SO HOW MIGHT THE ARCHBISHOP HAVE RPOND DIFFERENTLY? PERHAPS SOMETHG LIKE THIS: “LOOK, THE CHURCH MT NSIR MANY THGS DISCERNG WHETHER A CHANGE IS WARRANTED OUR NSIRATN OF BLSG THE MARRIAG OF SAME-SEX UPL: WHAT SCRIPTUR SAYS, HOW THE CHURCH’S HISTORIL UNRSTANDG HAS VELOPED, AND OUR OWN EXPERIENCE OF GAY UPL’ RELATNSHIPS. WE ARE THE MIDST OF THAT DISCERNMENT RIGHT NOW. IN ADDN, WE MT ALWAYS BE AWARE THAT OUR CISNS HERE ENGLAND ARE BEG WATCHED BY THE WORLD’S 80 LN ANGLINS AND THEIR ENEMI; SOMETIM BEG ED AS AN IRRATNAL AND UNWARRANTED EXCE BY THOSE ENEMI FOR VLENCE AGAST CHRISTIANS. I HAVE SEEN THE GRAV OF THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED BEE OF THE UNJT AND IRRATNAL NNECTNS BETWEEN LGBT PEOPLE AND MURR, AND BREAKS MY HEART.EVEN SO, WE NNOT GIVE TO THE VLENT ACTS OF BULLI AND MT DISCERN AND THEN PURSUE GOD’S WILL FOR ALL OF GOD’S CHILDREN. VLENCE AND MURR OF CHRISTIANS IS PLORABLE, BUT SO IS VLENCE AGAST AND MURR OF LGBT PEOPLE. AND AS THE SPIRUAL LEAR OF THE WORLD’S ANGLINS, PERM ME TO POT OUT, IS NOT HELPFUL FOR SOME OF OUR OWN ANGLIN ARCHBISHOPS, BISHOPS AND CLERGY TO JO SUPPORT OF ANTI-GAY LEGISLATN AND RHETORIC THEIR OWN UNTRI, THEREBY FUELG THE HATRED AND VLENCE AGAST NOCENT LGBT PEOPLE, WHO ARE BEG CRIMALIZED AND MURRED FOR WHO THEY ARE. THE ARE PLITED ISSU, AND WH GOD’S GUIDANCE, WE WILL DISCERN WHAT IS RIGHT TO SAY AND DO.”THE ROLE OF THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY IS A PLITED AND LITE ONE. I PRAY FOR HIM EVERY DAY, THAT HE MIGHT FD THE WISDOM BOTH TO FACILATE THE UNY OF THE ANGLIN COMMUNN AND TO LEAD TOWARD THE GREATER TTH OF GOD’S LOVE FOR ALL OF GOD’S CHILDREN. I DO NOT ENVY HIM THIS MISTRY OF RENCILIATN, WHICH IS GHT WH PLEXY AND NUANCE. BUT IS NOT HELPFUL WHEN HE FEEDS THE NOTN THAT ONE PART OF THE CHURCH SHOULD SAY NO TO S DISCERNMENT OF GOD’S WILL FOR THE CHURCH’S WNS BEE THE NTEXT AND UNRSTANDG OF GOD’S WILL ARE DIFFERENT OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNN.WHILE THE ARCHBISHOP IS RIGHT TO POT OUT THAT LGBT ACTIVISTS THE CHURCH SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THEIR WORDS AND ACTNS N E UNTEND HARM TO OTHERS AROUND THE WORLD, HE SHOULD TAKE HIS OWN ADVICE AND REALIZE THAT HIS WORDS N LIKEWISE E HARM—TO THE LNS OF LGBT ANGLINS AND WIR LGBT MUNY AROUND THE WORLD. WHILE WE EPLY GRIEVE THE ATHS OF CHRISTIANS ANYWHERE, WE SHOULD ALSO GRIEVE AND OPPOSE THE OPPRSN, VLENCE AND ATHS PERPETRATED ON LGBT PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. AFTER ALL, THEY ARE VICTIMS TOO.THE RIGHT REVEREND V. GENE ROBSON IS THE RECENTLY RETIRED IX EPISPAL BISHOP OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND A SENR FELLOW AT THE CENTER FOR AMERIN PROGRS, WASHGTON, DC. FOLLOW HIM ON TWTER @BISHOPGROBSON. GENE ROBSON
But at the next HOB meetg North Carola, the progrsiv will sniff the air of righteo dignatn and wrg their hands and say, ever so polely, that hate and homophobia should not be entertaed.
He uld remd the HOB that the Methodists the US jt blew off sodomy and same sex marriage and agreed to stick wh what the Bible says about marriage (thank you, Ai) leavg Methodist homosexuals and their progrsive pals whout a paddle or a noe to paddle . It's que possible that the homosexual bishops prent will, on hearg the words, implo and leave Lambeth, but not before they hold a prs nference blastg the Archbishop of Canterbury and his horts for beg homophobic and clarg the Apostle Peter simply new nothg about mted homosexual relatnships. The Church of England has said will bls same-sex upl for the first time but still won't allow gay marriag s upl will now be able to attend church servic cludg prayers of ditn, thanksgivg and God's blsg followg a legal marriage ceremony.
ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY HAS NO PROBLEM WH GAY BISHOPS
And the Church of England has acted more slowly to approve blsgs for same-sex upl than bishops Anglin Church Wal has allowed s clergy to bls same-sex marriag and civil partnerships sce September more om Sky News:Brgg ke to office 'as harmful as passive smokg'Tst policg falls to s 'lowt level' after Carrick seWhy your ugh has lasted so long this wter'A horrible mistake'The Archbishop of York, Stephen Cottrell, apologised for the Church's refal to fully embrace gay marriage, sayg he was "ashamed" by the cisn. He add this was still an important "tone" and he hoped this is not the "end of the journey" to "affirm same-sex relatnships" told BBC Rad 4's Today programme that he had attend a gay prit's civil partnership 15 years ago. "But gay edian Sandi Toksvig lled the Church of England's cisn a "horrible mistake", as reaffirmed a rolutn which stated marriage is "between a man and a woman", and that same-sex relatnships are "patible wh scripture".
The Archbishop of Canterbury has “joyfully” weled proposals to bls same-sex married upl but said he will not personally rry them out due to his “pastoral rponsibily for the whole munn” Welby spoke as the Church of England issued a formal apology for s historic rejectn and excln of LGBTQI+ to allow such blsgs for the first time were outled earlier this week, but the posn on gay marriage will not change and same-sex upl will still be unable to marry at blsgs have been weled by some as progrs on what is a divisive issue but others have said they do not go far Welby said while he is “extremely joyfully celebratory” of the proposals, he will not offer them his role as the hight-rankg relig lear of a church which has varyg views on the told a prs nference at Lambeth Palace Library: “Bee of my pastoral re and rponsibily of beg a foc of uny for the whole munn I will, while beg extremely joyfully celebratory of the new rourc, I will not personally e them orr not to promise that pastoral re. ”It is very good for to be able to say today that the church n now offer public servic of blsg, but we know that we have further to goShe also said she unrstands that some same-sex relatnships which are blsed unr the proposed new prayers, will be sexual, when asked if gay Christians who are a civil marriage are still expected by the church to rema acknowledged there “will be a range of views that are held on that”, but add: “I thk one thg I have learned through listeng is that there are a whole range of ways which people will exprs that relatnship and some will be sexual, some will not, some will be iendship. ”The Bishop of Oxford, the most senr bishop the Church of England to have lled for a change doctre to allow gay marriage, said there is “further to go” Steven Croft said: “It is very good for to be able to say today that the church n now offer public servic of blsg, but we know that we have further to go.
”Veteran mpaigner Peter Tatchell scribed the offer of a blsg only as “an sult” and dismissed the church’s apology for s treatment of LGBTQI+ people as “worthls” whout any progrs on allowg gay pastoral letter penned by Bishops of the Church and published on Friday, stated: “We want to apologise for the ways which the Church of England has treated LGBTQI+ people – both those who worship our church and those who do not. A group of mps led by Ben Bradshaw, a gay Anglin, is lookg at ways to amend the legislatn to allow willg prits and parish to take part, which they argue uld also help boost dwdlg numbers the aisl.
ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY URG UGANDAN ANGLINS TO REJECT ANTI-GAY LAW
If the Church of England celebrated gay marriag, he add, “the impact of that on Christians far om here, South Sudan, Pakistan, Nigeria and other plac would be absolutely tastrophic.
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”Welby was referrg to vlence agast Christians Ai that the perpetrators have jtified nnectn wh supposedly gay-iendly activi by the Anglin church the Uned Stat and Canada. Perhaps somethg like this: “Look, the church mt nsir many thgs discerng whether a change is warranted our nsiratn of blsg the marriag of same-sex upl: what scriptur says, how the church’s historil unrstandg has veloped, and our own experience of gay upl’ relatnships.
And as the spirual lear of the world’s Anglins, perm me to pot out, is not helpful for some of our own Anglin archbishops, bishops and clergy to jo support of anti-gay legislatn and rhetoric their own untri, thereby fuelg the hatred and vlence agast nocent LGBT people, who are beg crimalized and murred for who they are. Not that we should major on this homosexual issue at all – far more important thgs mt be proclaimed – but we should not be aaid to talk about sexual pury as beg a requirement for people who want to walk wh God.
REUTERS/Toby Melville/File Photo Acquire Licensg RightsLONDON, June 9 (Rters) - The Archbishop of Canterbury has urged the Anglin Church of Uganda to reject the untry's new anti-LGBT law, sayg there is no jtifitn for Anglins anywhere to support legislatn that go agast the Christian teachgs of the the law, approved by Print Yoweri Meveni May, gay sex is punishable by life prison while "aggravated homosexualy", cludg transmtg HIV, attracts the ath Welby, lear of the worldwi Anglin Communn, said he had wrten to Archbishop Stephen Kaziimba, the Primate of Uganda, to exprs "grief and dismay" at the church's stance.