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strong{font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;font-weight:bold;} em{font-style:alic;font-fay:Charter,Geia,Tim,Serif;}</style><p data-no-id="0" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0"><strong>Did you know that Marv Gaye</strong> once serly nsired leavg mic to jo the Detro Lns, and that 's Lns players who provi the famo chatter at the openg of <em>What's Gog On</em>? Qutlove do. The Roots' dmmer, <em>Late Night wh Jimmy Fallon</em> bandlear, and newly mted btsellg memoirist knows basilly everythg about popular mic. This sprg he even tght a urse at New York Universy lled "Topics Rerd Mic: Classic Albums." (VH1: <em>Please</em> brg back <em>Rock & Roll Jeopardy!</em> solely so we n wns an epic face-off between him and Mark McGrath.)</p><p data-no-id="2" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">His encyclopedic knowledge was on full display last week at The Hoe That Jimi Hendrix Built, Manhattan's subterranean Electric Lady Studs. There, surround by hallucogenic spachip murals missned by Hendrix, the very same spot where Stevie Wonr rerd <em>Mic of My Md</em> and some 30 years later he himself llaborated on D'Angelo's <em>Voodoo</em>, Qutlove joed signer John Varvatos for a listeng party hosted by McIntosh to celebrate the release of the 64-year-old d brand's MT5 Precisn Turntable. The pair picked 11 songs, and after listeng to a uple mut of each on vyl — "What's Gog On," Guns N' Ros' "Sweet Child of Me," Gary Clark Jr.'s "When My Tra Pulls In" — told stori of how they disvered and fell love wh them. </p><p data-no-id="4" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">Qutlove kept the timate crowd riveted wh fascatg facts rangg om the meticulo hand-loopg of sampl on the Beastie Boys' <em>Pl's Boutique</em> (19 different dm tracks the first mute of "Shake Your Rump" alone) to "Weird Al" Yankovic's tirels qut for permissn to parody Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spir." ("As long as 's not about food," Kurt Coba fally told him.) In three hours of near ntuo talkg, he was at a loss for words only twice. The first time me after hearg Bill Whers' "A't No Sunshe" funneled through the neon-illumated, $6,500 MT5. "I never heard the ets the guar, and the rasp his voice," he said. "I've lived wh this song for 40-pl years and I'm only hearg now. I'm speechls." The send stance when articulatn failed him was followg the event, as he and I spoke the hallway outsi the stud.</p><p data-no-id="6" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">I was told I only had ten mut wh Qutlove. Leang agast the trippy sci-fi walls, we spoke for more than a half-hour. A few tim publicists sidled up to check on . He polely shooed them away.</p><p data-no-id="8" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">We spoke primarily about his viral <style data-emotn="css umdwtv">{-webk-text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn:unrle;text-ratn-thickns:.0625rem;text-ratn-lor:#FF3A30;text-unrle-offset:0.25rem;lor:her;-webk-transn:background 0.4s;transn:background 0.4s;background:lear-gradient(#ffffff, #ffffff 50%, #d5dbe3 50%, #d5dbe3);-webk-background-size:100% 200%;background-size:100% 200%;}{lor:#000000;text-ratn-lor:borr-lk-body-hover;-webk-background-posn:100% 100%;background-posn:100% 100%;}</style><a href=" target="_blank" data-vars-ga-outbound-lk=" data-vars-ga-ux-element="Hyperlk" data-vars-ga-ll-to-actn=""You A't Sh" Facebook post" class="body-lk css-umdwtv et3p2gv0">"You A't Sh" Facebook post</a> followg the Gee Zimmerman verdict.</p><p data-no-id="10" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"I didn't thk was gonna make an impact," he said. "I mean, I was jt kda like — I didn't have anybody to talk to. My ex and I don't talk that much no more. You know, I don't talk to my assistant or my engeer like that. So was jt like, if I didn't do , I would've probably jt balled up the rner and cried. So I jt had to type somethg. I was jt havg a nversatn wh myself. But apparently need to be said."</p><p data-no-id="12" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">He went on:</p><p data-no-id="14" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"I thk at the end of the day my life goal is to humanize and appear 3-D. Which is hard bee most hip-hoppers are not seen — we're seen as ritur. One of my favore stori of Jay-Z's <em>Ded </em>— when me out and I read the preview py — he told the story of Oreo oki. And not that <em>Us Weekly</em>, 'Oh, the stars are jt like !' way. But I was like, wow, that's weird. Like, a billn-dollar guy talkg about k and oki as a kid. And I don't know why that h home. And then jt h me, like, 'Oh, crap — there are no Bce Sprgsteens hip-hop.' You thk of Bce Sprgsteen, you thk of some dirty jeans, you thk of some guy that's rollg up his sleev. You thk of elbow grease. I thk of Bce Sprgsteen, I'm thkg elbow grease. You don't thk of elbow grease when you thk of the hierarchy of hip-hop. Even though there's this aspiratnal story of 'Oh, I ma ! I ma !' and people wantg to do the hero-worship thg, at the end of the day you jt don't see them as human begs. Chris Rock told a joke about the bt thg Barack uld ever hope for is to be seen as medcre. And I get that joke. Simply bee, on this number-sle system that we have, if you say negative two, negative one, zero, one, and two? Most black figur are superhuman — Michael Jordan n fly — or O.J. Simpson's an animal, negative two. You know, and 's all plac between. Michael Jackson is out of this world... or out of this world. Eher way. Nobody's ever on ground zero. Bee I thk the fear there is that, 'Oh. I have to see you as equal. Like me.' It's easy for me to say, 'That guy's better than me!' Like Prce: 'Oh my God, he's way better than I am!' You know what I mean?</p><p data-no-id="16" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"So that's the number-one thg I thk that is the missed mark between the unrstandg of the plight of black folk Ameri. And that Facebook post was my way of sayg ."</p><p data-no-id="18" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">A nversatn wh Qutlove is full of the wonrful digrsns. "I wonr if I uld d his NYU class the fall?" I kept thkg. Enthralled by his lguistic acrobatics, I only asked two, maybe three qutns. It was one of the that, for the send time that night, left him stgglg for words.</p><p data-no-id="20" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">I told him I'd walked the prott march Manhattan that Sunday followg the verdict. It was a powerful experience, even more so than marchg the Occupy Wall Street protts. A dozen people — black and whe, male and female, old and young — holdg hands and formg a human cha across Sixth Avenue to block traffic as the thoands-strong procsn streamed toward Tim Square. The taxi driver headg east on 23rd Street raisg his fist out the wdow and honkg. But that was three weeks ago.</p><p data-no-id="22" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"Why didn't all hell break loose like after the Rodney Kg verdict?" I asked. "Why aren't people still pissed? What n anyone do?"</p><p data-no-id="24" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"I don't have the answers," Qutlove said. "But I do know that the ia of a magic wand and everybody havg a 'Kumbaya' moment isn't gonna happen. You know, the only solutn..."</p><p data-no-id="26" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">He psed and glanced up at the ceilg.</p><p data-no-id="28" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"I n't... How do I..."</p><p data-no-id="30" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">He wasn't sayg this to me. He was havg another nversatn wh himself, this time aloud stead of onle. Another uple sends passed.</p><p data-no-id="32" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"Okay, I don't get mad, I send people to llege. That's what I personally do. I don't know if that jt mak me feel better or whatever. But that's lerally the only solutn I have.</p><p data-no-id="34" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"You actually send kids to llege?" I asked. Quickly, he was back on his verbal trapeze.</p><p data-no-id="36" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"The Obama people were a ltle... not chagred, but they felt that they uld maximize me more on the polil trail. Like, 'Okay, we need you to talk to a massive dience.' And I told them, 'I'm not that guy. I wanna do small stuff.' Even durg the mpaign trail, I was pickg up old ladi drivg 'em to the polls. I was knockg on doors. I thk small thgs are more effective.</p><p data-no-id="38" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"If I lerally change the liv of 30 teenagers, and really change their liv — like updat, see what's happeng, tun, that type of real change — that to me is more powerful and more of a statement than, 'Okay, let's do this rerd.'</p><p data-no-id="40" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"I mean, yeah, that too n help. But I don't know, my ey, I've done the benef ncerts, and I've done those thgs, and 's like, okay, we gotta rent out the place, and then you gotta pay for stment rentals, and then you gotta pay for staff and crews, and then you gotta pay for hotels. I've done a gazilln of the benefs. And I always wonr what's the rult of that? Where did that money specifilly go? I don't know where that money go.</p><p data-no-id="42" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">"Me personally, that's my answer. It's risky to say that 'e I really abhor the whole public... whatever they ll now... 'humblebrag' or whatever... But to me, I know that I'm sendg an undisclosed amount of stunts personally to llege that otherwise wouldn't have . And not like, 'Oh, let me start a scholarship thg.' Or, 'Oh, let me make sure this is a tax wre-off.' No. I'm jt like tryg to my own way Harriet Tubman as many people through llege. And mp. You know, if I know I n get your child out of the ner cy for eight weeks so they n see the untrysi, maybe that's the eight weeks that they might've accintally got shot or got somebody pregnant or done somethg they shouldn't have been dog. To me, that's my ncern."</p><p data-no-id="44" class="css-aeyldl et3p2gv0">At that, I thanked him for beg so genero wh his time and head back to the stud to let the publicists know I was done. He stayed the hallway. 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