Pope Francis' remarks towards LGBTQ people are scere, a gay Vatin ai said : NPR

Contents:

• POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THAT AND LOV YOU LIKE THAT’
• POPE FRANCIS REPORTEDLY TELLS GAY MAN, 'GOD MA YOU THAT WAY AND LOV YOU'
• POPE FRANCIS REPORTEDLY TELLS GAY MAN: "GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND HE LOV YOU"
• POPE FRANCIS' LGBTQ MENTS ARE NOT SURPRISG BUT SCERE, GAY VATIN ADVISER SAYS
• POPE FRANCIS LLS FOR END TO ANTI-GAY LAWS AND LGBTQ+ WELE OM CHURCH
• POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: 'GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS'
• ‘GOD MA YOU THIS WAY,’ POPE IS SAID TO HAVE TOLD GAY MAN
• POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THAT’
• POPE TELLS GAY MAN ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND HE LOV YOU’
• POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: 'GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND LOV YOU LIKE THIS'
• POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: 'GOD MA YOU LIKE THAT AND LOV YOU LIKE THAT'
• SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN IF THEY ARE GAY, POPE TELLS PARENTS
• POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND LOV YOU LIKE THIS’

POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THAT AND LOV YOU LIKE THAT’

A victim of cleril sexual abe has said that Pope Francis told him that God ma him gay and that his sexualy “do not matter. The Pope’s words would amount to a signifint parture om the teachg of the Roman Catholic Church, which nsirs homosexualy “objectively disorred” and ntrary to God’s law. Pope Francis reportedly told a gay man om Chile who was visg the Vatin that God ma him that way and lov him the way he Carlos Cz, who was reportedly a victim of sexual abe at the hands of a prit, reportedly spent days at the Vatin to talk about his reportedly told El Pais, a Spanish newspaper, that the two had a nversatn about his homosexualy and said he was told, “Juan Carlos, I don’t re about you beg gay.

”The Los Angel Tim reported that the Vatin did not nfirm the pope’s ments given that was a private pope has upheld Catholic teachg on homosexualy, reeratg the church's opposn to same-sex relatnships.

POPE FRANCIS REPORTEDLY TELLS GAY MAN, 'GOD MA YOU THAT WAY AND LOV YOU'

" ment durg his first airborne prs nference 2013, signalg a new era of acceptance and wele for gays the church.

POPE FRANCIS REPORTEDLY TELLS GAY MAN: "GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND HE LOV YOU"

Francis followed up by meetg wh gay and transgenr Jam Mart, the thor of “Buildg a Bridge, ” told The Tim that Francis’ reported ments are a “big al” bee is likely the first time the pope ma a ment “about gay people beg born that way.

POPE FRANCIS' LGBTQ MENTS ARE NOT SURPRISG BUT SCERE, GAY VATIN ADVISER SAYS

VATICAN CITY -- Pope Francis' reported ments to a gay man that "God ma you like this" have been embraced by the LGBT muny as another sign of Francis' sire to make gay people feel weled and loved the Catholic Church. Juan Carlos Cz, the ma whistleblower Chile's cleril sex abe and ver-up sndal, said Monday he spoke to Francis about his homosexualy durg their recent meetgs at the Vatin.

POPE FRANCIS LLS FOR END TO ANTI-GAY LAWS AND LGBTQ+ WELE OM CHURCH

Official church teachg lls for gay men and lbians to be rpected and loved, but nsirs homosexual activy "trsilly disorred. " However, Francis has taken a signifintly more open-md and nciliatory stance on homosexualy than any pope before him.

"He also has spoken of his own mistry to gay and transgenr people, sistg they are children of God, loved by God and servg of acpaniment by the a rult, some sought to downplay the signifince of the ments as merely beg le wh Francis' pastoral-md addn, there was a time not so long ago when the Catholic Church officially tght that sexual orientatn was not somethg people choose, the implitn beg was how God ma them. "The updated edn, which is the only edn available onle and on the Vatin webse, was revised to remove the reference to homosexualy not beg a choice. Jam Mart, a Ju whose book "Buildg a Bridge" lled for the church to fd new pastoral ways of misterg to gays, noted that the pope's ments were a private nversatn, not a public pronouncement or document.

An openly gay advisor to the Vatin says he's not surprised by Pope Francis' claratn that "beg homosexual isn't a crime. In his first terview sce the ath of former Pope Benedict XVI, Francis told the Associated Prs that laws crimalizg homosexualy are "unjt" and that Catholic bishops should apply "tenrns" and help ease discrimatn by welg LGBTQ people to the church. Cz says the church's sistence that homosexualy is "s, " a posn embraced by the pope, is "shameful, " although Cz says the pope appears to be tryg to shift the church's relatnship wh the LGBTQ muny.

POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: 'GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS'

And he shifts this, you know, wordg, like you said , Leila, but he highlights how important is that 's more sful, you know, havg thgs agast your neighbor or beg uncharable, or crimal towards the gay muny, that's sful. Pope Francis has cricised laws that crimalise homosexualy as “unjt”, sayg God lov all his children jt as they are, and llg on Catholic bishops who support the laws to wele LGBTQ+ people to the church. Francis acknowledged that Catholic bishops some parts of the world support laws that crimalise homosexualy or discrimate agast LGBTQ+ people, and he himself referred to the issue terms of “s”.

Francis’s ments, which were hailed by gay rights advot as a tone, are the first uttered by a pope about such laws. Gay rights advot say the antiquated laws are ed to jtify harassment, and pot to new legislatn, such as the “Don’t say gay” law Florida, which forbids stctn on sexual orientatn and genr inty om krgarten up to third gra, as evince of ntued efforts to margalise LGBTQ+ UN has repeatedly lled for an end to laws crimalisg homosexualy outright, sayg they vlate rights to privacy and eedom om discrimatn and are a breach of untri’ obligatns unr ternatnal law to protect the human rights of all people, regardls of their sexual orientatn or genr inty.

Francis quoted the Catholic techism sayg gay people mt be weled and rpected, and should not be margalised or discrimated agast. Some Catholic bishops have strongly upheld them as nsistent wh Vatin teachg, while others have lled for them to be overturned as a vlatn of basic human Tuday, Francis said there need to be a distctn between a crime and a s wh regard to homosexualy.

‘GOD MA YOU THIS WAY,’ POPE IS SAID TO HAVE TOLD GAY MAN

Church teachg holds that homosexual acts are sful, or “trsilly disorred”, but that gay people mt be treated wh digny and rpect. But he has ma reachg out to LGBTQ+ people a hallmark of his pope’s ments didn’t specifilly addrs transgenr or nonbary people, jt homosexualy, but advot of greater LGBTQ+ cln the Catholic Church hailed the pope’s ments as a momento advance. A survivor of cleril sexual abe has said Pope Francis told him that God had ma him gay and loved him, arguably the most strikgly acceptg ments about homosexualy to be uttered by the lear of the Roman Catholic Carlos Cz, who spoke privately wh the pope two weeks ago about the abe he suffered at the hands of one of Chile’s most notor paedophil, said the issue of his sexualy had arisen bee some of the Lat Amerin untry’s bishops had sought to pict him as a pervert as they acced him of lyg about the abe.

POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THAT’

You have to be happy wh who you are, ’” Cz told Spanish newspaper El Paí 87, Fernando Karadima, the man who abed Cz, was found guilty of abe by the Vatin Burke, the Vatin’s chief spokman, did not rpond to qutns about whether Cz’s statement accurately reflected his nversatn wh the is not the first time has been suggted Francis has an open and tolerant attu toward homosexualy, spe the Catholic church’s teachg that gay sex – and all sex outsi of heterosexual marriage – is a s. In July 2013, rponse to a reporter’s qutn about the existence of an alleged “gay lobby” wh the Vatin, Francis said: “Who am I to judge? ”The new remarks appear to go much further embracg homosexualy as a sexual orientatn that is signed and btowed by God.

POPE TELLS GAY MAN ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND HE LOV YOU’

It suggts that Francis do not believe that dividuals choose to be gay or lbian, as some relig nservativ Ivereigh, who has wrten a bgraphy of the pope, said Francis had likely ma siar ments private the past, when he served as a spirual director to gay people Buenos Air, but that Cz’s public discsn of his nversatn wh Francis reprented the most “forceful” remarks on the subject sce did not, however, reprent a shift church teachg, Ivereigh said, sce the church had never formally ma any pronouncements on why dividuals were gay. “I don’t thk he has changed church teachg but he’s monstratg an affirmatn of gay Catholics, somethg that has been missg over the years Rome.

”The remarks e as several high profile members of the clergy have sought to publicly make roads wh gay Catholics, many of whom have felt shunned and unwele the church and have been Jam Mart, a Ju prit New York who has nearly 200, 000 Twter followers, has led the outreach effort and was chosen last month to serve as a nsultor to the Vatin’s secretariat for has argued his book Buildg a Bridge that the on is on the church to make LGBT Catholics feel wele the church and to stop discrimatg agast people based on their “sexual moraly”.

POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: 'GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND LOV YOU LIKE THIS'

AdvertisementSKIP Casilli/RtersMay 21, 2018ROME — A Chilean survivor of cleril sex abe has said that Pope Francis told him a private meetg this month that God had ma him gay and that both God and the pontiff loved him that way, a remarkable exprsn of cln for the lear of the Roman Catholic Church. “He said to me, ‘Juan Carlos, that’s not a problem, ’ ” said Juan Carlos Cz, the abe survivor, scribg havg told the pope he was gay a long meetg the Vatin. ”The Vatin cled to ment on the pope’s private Cz had already said that Francis had apologized the meetg for the large-sle sexual abe sndal volvg Chilean clergy members, but over the weekend, he also told the Spanish newspaper El País about the pope’s remarks about his homosexualy.

”In July 2013, the pope rpond to qutns about a supposed “gay lobby” the Vatin by sayg “Who am I to judge, ” a remark that ed celebratn among liberals and nsternatn among nservativ.

Vatin officials, however, utned agast terpretg the pontiff’s pastoral outreach as a five lg on the nature-vers-nurture qutn or as a change church Catechism of the Catholic Church stat that people wh “homosexual tennci” “mt be accepted wh rpect, passn, and sensivy, ” but also lls a “ep-seated” homosexual clatn and s acts “trsilly disorred” and “ntrary to the natural law. Archbishop Matteo Maria Zuppi of Bologna, sometim lled the “Bergogl of Italy” for his siary to Francis, the former Je Mar Bergogl, published on Monday a preface to the Italian versn of “Buildg a Bridge, ” a book by the Amerin Ju prit Jam Mart about reachg out to gay Catholics.

POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN: 'GOD MA YOU LIKE THAT AND LOV YOU LIKE THAT'

“The tent of the book is to help pastors velop an attu of unrstandg, as well as a pacy for acpaniment, towards their homosexual brothers and sisters, ” the archbishop pope has been creasgly assertive over the sprg, five years to his papacy, pecially after he seemed hobbled by missteps on the Chilean sexual abe announced on Saturday that Ósr Romero, a Salvadoran bishop shot and killed by right-wg forc for preachg agast ary opprsn and Amerin meddlg, would be nonized next day, he rhaped the College of Cardals, which will choose his succsor. Cz, Francis was cidly on the si of the victims and entirely welg of the Chilean’s sexual Cz said that his lawyer warned him 2009 that the church would foc on his homosexualy, leavg him vulnerable and threateng to make life extremely difficult for said that his lawyer later told him that Cardal Francis Javier Errázuriz, a nfidant of Francis, had raised the qutn of whether Mr. Cz acknowledged that he was gay and, jokgly, not the rernatn of Sat Aloysi Gonzaga, a mol of the virtue of pury, but someone who tried to be “a good person.

Cz said that sce the article El País was published over the weekend, some of those gay Catholic iends had wrten to him sayg of the pope, “Did he really tell you that?

SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN IF THEY ARE GAY, POPE TELLS PARENTS

A versn of this article appears prt on, Sectn A, Page 7 of the New York edn wh the headle: ‘God Ma You This Way, ’ Pope Is Said to Have Told Gay Man. Acrdg to Juan Carlos Cz, an openly gay man and a survivor of cleril sexual abe, Pope Francis reportedly told him, “God ma you like that and he lov you like that.

The Pope’s words, which were allegedly exprsed privately, have been lled the most progrsive ments ever ma about homosexualy by a morn pope. In the past, Francis has spoken passnately about homosexualy, though his observatns have not led to any real shift the church’s stance on homosexualy.

In 2013, Francis said, “If someone is gay and is searchg for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him? Image source, RtersImage ptn, Pope Francis' statements are a parture om prev ments about LGBT rightsPope Francis has said that he thks same-sex upl should be allowed to have "civil unns" ma the ments, which observers say are his cleart remarks yet on gay relatnships, a documentary directed by Evgeny Afeevsky. " He add that he "stood up for that", apparently referrg to his time as Archbishop of Buenos Air when, although opposg same-sex marriag law, he supported some legal protectns for same-sex film Franc, about the life and work of Pope Francis, premiered as part of the Rome Film well as the Pope's ments on civil unns, the film also shows him enuragg two gay men to attend church wh their three Francis's bgrapher, Aten Ivereigh, told the BBC he was "not surprised" by the latt ments.

POPE FRANCIS TELLS GAY MAN ‘GOD MA YOU LIKE THIS AND LOV YOU LIKE THIS’

"Unr current Catholic doctre, gay relatnships are referred to as "viant behavur" 2003, the Vatin's doctral body, the Congregatn for the Doctre of the Fah, said that "rpect for homosexual persons nnot lead any way to approval of homosexual behavur or to legal regnn of homosexual unns" words but no sign of doctral changeThe remarks have set tongu waggg among Vatin-watchers - and they mark Francis's cleart support for the issue sce beg Pope. As archbishop of Buenos Air before beg Pope, he was a stnch opponent of gay marriage, which was legalised Argenta 2010, and stead advoted civil unns for homosexual upl. Every person needs a male father and a female mother that n help them shape their inty" ptn, "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?

"That same year, he reaffirmed the Church's posn that homosexual acts were s, but said homosexual orientatn was not. " he 2014 was reported that Pope Francis had exprsed support for civil unns for same-sex partners an terview, but the Holy See's prs office nied 2018, Pope Francis said he was "worried" about homosexualy the clergy, and that was "a ser matter" on this story.