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EOneK body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><div class="GenericCalloutWrapper-tojWn iHBnEl llout--has-top-borr" data-ttid="GenericCallout"><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO KhjZz AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image rponsive-image--expandable"><noscript><img alt="Walter Merdo" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE iTuhkZ ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnText-bHjzlu iUEiRd hWyo iXWezO ptn__text">A new Netflix documentary focs on Walter Merdo, an astrologer and TV personaly who fied all predictns.</span><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd iicloT jbIJNS ptn__cred">Photographer by Harry Langdon / Getty</span></div></figure></div><p class="has-dropp has-dropp__lead-standard-headg paywall">When Walter Merdo was a boy, Puerto Ri, a dyg bird fell to his yard. He held and prayed for , and the bird flapped s wgs and started to fly. A neighbor who was watchg nclud that Merdo had been given healg powers by the grace of God. Word spread through the village, and people began showg up at his door, beggg his mother, “Please, let me see Walter!” She sat the enchanted boy on a special chair, and visors would le up to touch him. “Then,” Merdo relled many years later, “I turned to Walter of the Miracl.”</p><p class="paywall">Apocryphal? Perhaps. But the orig story, down to the makhift throne, befs Merdo, who went on to bee Lat Ameri’s preëment celebry psychic and an ternatnal phenomenon. At his height, the neti, he livered daily horosp to a hundred and twenty ln viewers on the Univisn show “Primer Impacto.” His dienc (“my people,” he lled them, Pope-like) anxly awaed his end-of-year forests, and his empire extend to books, rad, and a syndited newspaper lumn. But you didn’t have to believe astrology to see his appeal, which lay mostly his opulence. Wh his bejewelled rob, puffy helmet of hair, and tt sorcerer’s face, he was the Lat answer to Liberace: an androgyno peack who turned mpy excs to a form of pop mysticism.</p><p class="paywall">Merdo, who died last November, his late eighti, is the subject of a new Netflix documentary, “<a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Mucho Mucho Amor: The Legend of Walter Merdo</a>,” directed by Crista Costanti and Kareem Tabsch. (The tle is taken om his tramark sign-off, which me wh a kiss blown to the mera.) We fd Merdo at his home San Juan—ftooned wh nlabra and statuary, but hardly palatial—along wh his longtime assistant, Willie Asta. The obv qutn is raised, and then answered: Asta is “fay,” acrdg to Merdo, and Asta sists, “I have never touched Walter wh a fger.” Merdo claims not to have any earthbound sexualy, explag, “I have sexualy wh the wd!” When the filmmakers prs him on whether he’s a virg, he smirks and answers, “The only one town.”</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p class="paywall">It’s remarkable that a figure as flamboyant as Merdo permeated a culture so steeped machismo and Catholicism. His more-is-more athetic, like that of Liberace, Ltle Richard, and Siegied and Roy, was so outrageo as to oculate him agast tradnal genr nstrats: he was jt Walter, the one and only. He mt have known, on some level, that his means of survival was to be ls a human and more of an oracle. Gay men who grew up followg him on televisn saw him as a lifele, someone they uld watch alongsi closed-md relativ who jt wanted to hear their horosp. In “Mucho Mucho Amor,” one terviewee, intified as “Mireya Luc, Wch,” aptly sums up his sgular image: “He has an gmented face that fi genr and maybe even age, and his hair is a hybrid between really good male hair om the seventi and really good, glamoro grandma hair.”</p><p class="paywall">Growg up Ponce, Merdo had a mother who tght him to embrace his difference. “I cid at that time I’m gog to fabrite, to create a famo person me,” he rells. He studied dance at the Universy of Puerto Ri (his flamen trag is evint his gtural flair) and acted telenovelas. To promote a play that he was , he went on televisn stumed as a Hdu prce and talked astrology. The appearance was so popular—a shock to the sens, one imag—that 1969 he was given his own recurrg segment, “Walter, Las Estrellas y Usted” (“Walter, the Stars, and You”). A manager named Bill Bakula took him to the big time, turng him to “the prophet of the New Age,” as Merdo says. Bakula, his tellg, helped Merdo cross over to the general market Europe and then the Uned Stat, thanks to well-placed appearanc wh the lik of Howard Stern (“You’re bigger than J Christ, aren’t you?”) and Sally Jsy Raphael. “I was the eye of the eagle,” Merrdo says.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p class="paywall">But Bakula was also his Judas. In 1995, Merdo signed a ntract that gave Bakula’s pany full rights to his name, image, likens, and work, plungg Merdo to a six-year urt battle. (One le of the agreement read “The terrory shall be the universe,” which prumably clud the astral plane.) Two days after Merdo fally won back his brand, he had a heart attack and almost died. He vanished om televisn 2006, leavg behd generatns of viewers who nsired him a touchstone. Among them was L-Manuel Miranda, who, when he vised the hurrine-battered Puerto Ri, January, 2019, to <a href=">reprise his role</a> “Haton,” sneaked a meetg wh Merdo. “You’re such a light all of our liv,” he tells Merdo, starstck. “<em>Increíble</em>.” Millennials, who have led a <a href=">rurgence astrology</a>, embraced him as a meme.</p><p class="paywall">The filmmakers mt have had a crystal ball, bee they managed to pture Merdo what turned out to be his fal year. In the documentary’s sweet climax, the agg oracle, reverg om a fall, travels to Miami a wheelchair, to be fêted at a mm retrospective of his life. “I’m ready for my closp,” he says, en route to the openg (he’s too much of a showman to miss the “Sunset Boulevard” of all), where he emerg on a gold throne, a matchg su, to a leral fanfare. He left the rporeal realm three months later. The film, enamored of s outré subject, giv only passg nsiratn to hucksterism—after all, Merdo gave lns of people “hope,” to say nothg of sheer entertament. Did his astrology e om any sort of expertise? Do any of ? So ep his own spirual goop and alive his Houdi-like abily to mmerize, Merdo was difficult not to love, the way that improbable people often are. Like Mister Rogers, another televisn shaman, he created a kd of alternative church, one he had to build himself so that uld hoe someone as anomalo as he was.</p></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><asi class="PersistentAsiWrapper-VGrR daRVRt persistent-asi" style="posn:absolute;top:to;height:to" data-ttid="PersistentAsiWrapper"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box ArticlePageSplAdRail-OyjwD jikppc"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailContent-jsltpq iZDmmY spl-ad-rail-ntent"><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailTop-jUrrVY jzzFg"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="p8m8n"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailMiddle-tiRvu hiZeZX spl-ad-rail-middle"></div><div class="ArticlePageSplAdRailBottom-dBKMGQ jmCMsn spl-ad-rail-bottom"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB jxBcTH sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="r92i6l"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></asi></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 PaywallInleBarrierWhWrapperGrid-fyrGfS kLQIUk grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__le-barrier article__body"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"><asi class="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper-iBnuqk lfXXa-D" data-ttid="PaywallInleBarrierWrapper"><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--paywall-le-barrier" role="prentatn" aria-live="pole" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--paywall-le-barrier"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></asi></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ContentWrapperGrid-fvkmBv brYtrA grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="body body__ntaer"><div class="ntaer ntaer--body"><div class="ntaer--body-ner"></div></div></div></div></div></div></article><div class="ContentFooterWrapper-jVNdRG dTJkpP ArticlePageContentFooterGrid-ccsXYy eMZRHU article-body__footer"><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan"><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="ContributorsWrapper-eNpWFu GWFsc ntributors" data-ttid="Contributors"><div class="ContributorBWrapper-bnVHbt gMon"><div class="ContributorBAvatar-bIGTqf eMWbvj"><a href="/ntributors/michael-schulman"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW jvZaPI rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa rponsive-image"><source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w" siz="100vw"/><source media="(m-width: 768px)" srcSet=" 120w, 240w" siz="100vw"/><img alt="" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src="></picture></span></a></div><div class="ContributorBContent-ubQdr jZTSSi"><div class="ContributorBHear-ledood XOIEx"></div><div class="ContributorBB-fBolsO giFhKz"><a href="/ntributors/michael-schulman">Michael Schulman</a>, a staff wrer, has ntributed to The New Yorker sce 2006. 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I have sex wh life!”</p><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad---ntent"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot---ntent" data-no-id="p4v6pd"></div></div><p>For those who are unfaiar, Merdo was an enormoly popular Puerto Rin telenovela star-turned-TV astrologer, known ternatnally for his ostentat athetic and verve. From the 1970s through the 2000s, Merdo prented dramatic horospe readgs to Spanish speakers worldwi, lightg daily dienc of up to <a href=">120 ln</a> at his peak.</p><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><p>His rise to stardom began when a TV show host ved Merdo to give a short prentatn on astrology. Merdo’s segment was so wildly popular that he began makg regular appearanc drippg jewels, extravagant p and dramatic makp. But his reer was later marred by years of legal battl wh Bill Bakula, the same manager who once elevated Merdo’s platform the ‘80s and ‘90s. Consirg Bakula as his close iend, Merdo neglected to read a ntract <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">before signg </a>, which nferred all of the rights to his image, name and likens to Bakula. Merdo eventually reclaimed those rights, but his reer unfortunately never rebound. Merdo’s ath last year was mourned by lns worldwi, and <em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em> is an endlsly entertag way to look back at the astrologer’s impact.</p><div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--article-mid-ntent" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--article-mid-ntent nsumer-marketg-un__slot---ntent"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><p>Tabsch and -director Crista Costanti, both award-wng documentarians, embarked on <em>Mucho Mucho Amor</em> termed to unver <em>the real</em> Merdo, a queer Latx astrologer who Tabsch says ma him feel okay to be different growg up. What they found was a person whose life and work transcends rote labels and sexualy. Below, Tabsch spoke wh <em>them.</em> about Merdo’s last days, how Water fluenced Tabsch’s own sexualy, the hangg ambigui behd how Walter intified, and more.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Human Person Couch and Furnure" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Netflix</span></div></figure></div></div></div><div class="GridItem-buujkM fVLMby grid--em grid-layout__asi"><div class="StickyBoxWrapper-jfYB kNleGZ sticky-box"><div class="StickyBoxPrimary-dzWDWL cdhYoN sticky-box__primary"><div class="Contaer-bkChBi byNLHx"></div><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--rail"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--rail" data-no-id="ccfki9"></div></div><div class="ConsumerMarketgUnThemedWrapper-iUTMTf jssHut nsumer-marketg-un nsumer-marketg-un--display-rail" role="prentatn" aria-hidn="te"><div class="nsumer-marketg-un__slot nsumer-marketg-un__slot--display-rail"></div><div class="journey-un"></div></div></div><div class="StickyBoxPlaceholr-grPmrg dxAvXx"></div></div></div></div><div class="RowWrapper-UmqTg HEhan full-bleed-ad row-mid-ntent-ad"><div class="StickyMidContentAdWrapper-fSBzwl drzyIa ad-stickymidntent"><div class="AdWrapper-dQtivb fZrssQ ad ad--mid-ntent should-hold-space"><div class="ad__slot ad__slot--mid-ntent" data-no-id="5lht9"></div></div></div></div><div class="GridWrapper-cAzTTK kHBDeH grid grid-margs grid-ems-2 ArticlePageChunksGrid-hfxa bjczjj grid-layout--adrail narrow wi-adrail"><div class="GridItem-buujkM stRKV grid--em grid-layout__ntent"><div class="BodyWrapper-kufPGa bectqB body body__ntaer article__body" data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p><strong>What did Walter mean to you growg up as a queer kid?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-1 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Kareem Tabsch:</strong> I’m a Queer Cuban-Lebane child of immigrants, growg up the ‘80s. Our next door neighbors were a queer uple. People never treated them differently <em>explicly</em>, but there was always that fear, like “don’t get too close, you don’t want that bbg off on your kids,” or whatever... That’s how people talked about queerns back then.</p><p>But then you turn on the TV, and all of the sudn, there’s this fabulo person — I’d never seen anyone before who looked like that. He was happy, powerful, and succsful. But most of all, he was <em>loved</em>. My fay loved him.</p><p>I remember he looked the way I felt. He was different. And I knew I was different too.</p><p>Those five-mute appotment viewgs were sacred, quiet tim. And I thought, if my fay uld love him the way they did, then they uld love me.</p><p><strong>Did gettg to know Walter change your perceptn of him?</strong></p><p>We me thkg the Walter we saw on TV was jt a persona. But at one pot, his niece said, “you don’t get . The person you see is who he <em>always</em> is. Sce childhood.” We realized this was 100% te.</p><p>Walter’s grand nephew had a baby durg productn. They brought the baby to the hoe, but Walter refed to meet them until he’d done his hair and makp. He didn’t want the baby to see him not at his bt. He always wanted to look the way he felt si.</p><p>He knew his appearance drew people . And by dog so, he uld teach you. It was subversive and brilliant. We took for granted how brilliant he was. He uld talk to you about history, relign, astrology, film. He and I veloped a film shorthand, quotg talki. Once he said, “I want to be alone...”, a famo Greta Garbo le, and no one else got ! We shared a lot of private jok I really loved.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-2 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>One of our cematographers is a <a data-offer-url="(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy." class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy."}" href="(om%20yoba%20Obal%C3%BAway%C3%A9,whenever%20necsary%20to%20prevent%20firmy." rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Babalú-Ayé</a>, a Santeria high prit. And one day, out of nowhere, Walter started talkg to him <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Yoba</a>! He was jt nstantly imprsive that way.</p><asi aria-hidn="te" class="PullQuoteEmbedWrapper-sc-EoVjf fQbAzo"><div class="PullQuoteDerativeBorr-sc-iUyOLj fAzNVP"></div><div class="PullQuoteEmbedContent-sc-kTcfhx eoUd"><p>"There are a lot of Latx astrologers and wch particular, who for such a long time practiced unrground. Walter helped brg that to the foreont. And some are really embracg that mpy wchs that Walter opened the door for. He spired them to be extra! You know, I feel the word ‘extra’ was vented for Walter."</p></div></asi><p><strong>Do you feel his energy changed his fal days?</strong></p><p>Not at all. Even on his athbed, he was talkg about what he wanted to do next. The book he was wrg, his next trip to Mexi. He was always readg, watchg, wantg to nverse. And he left no space for negativy. That was one of the harst thgs about this film- gettg him to talk about the difficult tim. I mean, he lost lns of dollars. It was a nstant strs for six years! But he didn’t want to dwell on that.</p><p>He was jt so posive and optimistic. And makg <em>you</em> feel better was the most important thg to him. I mean, he loved himself! He had an ego the size of Texas! But he loved you more. 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data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>Now, that’s not to say he didn’t get bchy sometim...</p><p><strong>Oh my god, have you seen him sha someone?!</strong></p><p>Y! But was sneaky. I don’t know if this is public, but he was talkg about someone and said: “Sure, I love them! I love them... I love their wife... I love their lover…” And you jt had to lgh.</p><p><strong>You mentned talkg wh him about your sexualy. Can you tell me more about that?</strong></p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-3 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>We wanted him to talk about his sexualy, but he gave the really packaged answers that felt empty. I was trated.</p><p>So I ma sure he knew the meras, the d equipment, my phone, was out of the room. And I’m like, “look, I have nothg on me. I need you to know this is important. I need you to know what you meant for me.”</p><p>I said, “I was a queer kid growg up Miami. You me on TV and were very clearly yourself. You had this queer energy, and I nnected. You allowed me to be myself. It is so important that other people get to feel the same way I felt. Tim have changed. I thk you’d be embraced. Celebrated, even.”</p><p>He said, “you felt a gay energy om me.”</p><p>I said, “y!”</p><p>Then he said, “I’ve never talked about this openly... I’ve never felt I had to. I’ve never really wanted to.”</p><p>I wish he’d e out to me that nversatn. But he didn’t.</p><p>But his niece said somethg that stuck wh me. She said, “you have to be gnizant of that tape that’s put our bra, programmed om your childhood. The thgs stay wh you.” And I thk that’s te. He would hate for me to state his age, but he was 88 when he died. He grew up the 40s a super nservative, super Catholic Puerto Ri. And he was different. And wh that super machista Latx culture — Christ! We still rry that around today. Image then!</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-4 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p>But what he eventually said was, “I was different, and I had to create a famo person si of me.” I thk he was referrg to his magic... but also, his queerns.</p><p>Now, ’s certaly not my job to out anyone, but ther no doubt my md that Walter was queer. Whether or not he was homosexual is different… but he’s loved by our queer muny. He challenged masculy and femy. Years ago, he said genr is a nstct that will not exist the future. 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data-journey-hook="client-ntent" data-ttid="BodyWrapper"><div class="body__ner-ntaer"><p>I wish he would have e out though. I thk would’ve been so liberatg for him a way. But he lived his own tth.</p><figure class="AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed"><div class="AssetEmbedAssetContaer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-ntaer"><span class="SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB rponsive-asset AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset"><picture class="RponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedRponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__rponsive-asset rponsive-image"><noscript><img alt="Image may nta Clothg Apparel Coat Human and Person" class="RponsiveImageContaer-eybHBd fptoWY rponsive-image__image" src=" srcSet=" 120w, 240w, 320w, 640w, 960w, 1280w, 1600w" siz="100vw"/></noscript></picture></span></div><div class="CaptnWrapper-jSZdqE hTTfoq ptn AssetEmbedCaptn-fNQBPI fmQnYP asset-embed__ptn"><span class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptnCred-ejegDm iUEiRd eNhSMp fNaHcW ptn__cred">Netflix</span></div></figure><p><strong>And tly... what’s more queer than that?</strong></p><p>Exactly! It’s different when you hear about policians like <a href=">Aaron Schock</a>, a gay guy who voted agast his muny at every turn. Wh Walter, his entire life was about cln. So ’s like, OK, maybe you didn’t e out. But you ma the world a better place for queer people like me. You’ve spired . And I don’t know how much more we uld have asked om him.</p><p><strong>If you were to have one more night wh Walter, what would you do?</strong></p><p>I would love to watch the film wh him. Actually- I would love to watch <em>him</em> watch the film. I know he’d hate the parts where he didn’t look perfect. But I would love for him to jt see .</p><p>Then, I would jt talk to him. He wasn’t a big drker, but I thk a night wh Walter and a bottle of we would be the bt. He’d talk to you about anythg. And if <em>you</em> wanted to talk about , was the most tertg subject the world.</p><div data-attr-viewport-monor="le-recirc" class="le-recirc-wrapper le-recirc-observer-target-5 viewport-monor-anchor"></div><p><strong>Wh folks like</strong> <a href="><strong>Chani Nicholas</strong></a> <strong>and</strong> <a data-offer-url=" class="external-lk" data-event-click="{"element":"ExternalLk","outgogURL":"" href=" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><strong>Astrosagas</strong></a><strong>, do you thk Walter’s legacy has held spiratn for the next generatn of queer astrologers?</strong></p><p>Y! We terviewed several queer astrologers who didn’t make the film, and they all said Walter was actually their troductn to astrology.</p><p>There are a lot of Latx astrologers and wch particular, who for such a long time practiced unrground. Walter helped brg that to the foreont. And some are really embracg that mpy wchs that Walter opened the door for. He spired them to be extra! You know, I feel the word “extra” was vented for Walter.</p><p><strong>Anythg you haven’t addrsed that you thk is important to discs?</strong></p><p>I’m glad this film mak people happy. That was all Walter wanted, really. There is a lot of plited sh that go on our muni, our untry, and our world. And ’s important to talk about that. But ’s also important to leave room for joy. Joy is fect. 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