Dietrich Bonhoeffer Was Flamgly Gay– Deal Wh It | Frank Schaeffer

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• WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS
• WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS
• “WAS BONHOEFFER GAY?” AND OTHER ADVENTUR MISSG THE POT
• DIETRICH BONHOEFFER WAS FLAMGLY GAY– DEAL WH IT
• OUTG DIETRICH BONHOEFFERA CHRISTIAN SUPERSTAR LOOKED SUPER GAY—AND THE RELIGN NCEALED JONATHAN POLETTI·FOLLOWPUBLISHED I’M JONATHAN. I BLOG GOD.·12 M READ·MAR 30--23SHAREIN 1945, A PASTOR GERMANY WAS EXECUTED BY THE NAZIS FOR TRYG KILL HLER. OVER THE NEXT S, DIETRICH BONHOEFFER BEME A CHRISTIAN SUPERSTAR.THE RELIGN LIKED HIS STORY, AND READ HIS BOOKS, LIKE THE COST OF DISCIPLHIP AND LETTERS AND PAPERS FROM PRISON. HE WAS LLED A CHRISTIAN HERO, A PROTTANT SAT, PECIALLY LOVED BY EVANGELILS.A NEW BOOK SAYS THAT BONHOEFFER SCHOLARS UNRSTOOD HIM TO BE HOMOSEXUAL — OFTEN DISCSG AMONGST THEMSELV. NEVER LLAGE: DIETRICH BONHOEFFER AND CHARL MARSH (PUBLICY PHOTO)CHARL MARSH MIGHT BE A CHRISTIAN HERO TOO.IN 2014, THE PROFSOR OF RELIGN AT THE UNIVERSY OF VIRGIA PUBLISHED A BGRAPHY OF BONHOEFFER THAT TRODUCED THE “GAY READG” TO THE PUBLIC. A CHRISTIAN SORT OF SEMI-‘OUTED’ A CHRISTIAN HERO?THAT DON’T HAPPEN EVERY DAY. MARSH HAS BEEN DROPPG TAILS OF HIS OWN STORY. LAST YEAR, HE PUBLISHED A MEMOIR, EVANGELIL ANXIETY, WHICH HE WROTE ABOUT GROWG UP EVANGELIL CHRISTIAN, THEN WANRG OUT OF . THROUGHOUT, BONHOEFFER WAS HIS GUI.HE DID HIS PH.D. DISSERTATN ON BONHOEFFER, AND ME TO A DIFFERENT KD OF CHRISTIANY—ONE THAT LET HIM TO SEE LIFE AS A SPIRUAL EXPERIENCE. IT’S NOT JT ABOUT “GETTG TO HEAVEN.” IT’S ABOUT BEG ON EARTH.IN 2007, MARSH BEGAN HIS BONHOEFFER BGRAPHY.
• WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY?
• WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS
• TOP POSTS & PAG“CHASTE, GAY COUPL” AND THE CHURCHC. S. LEWIS ON HOMOSEXUALY & DISGTPERASTY AND ARSENOKOAIMART LUTHER KG, JR: INTEGRATED B SUGGTNSINTRSIC EVIL AND DISORR: HOW TO MISUNRSTAND THE CATHOLIC CATECHISMSOULS KN TOGETHERCRYG OUT TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE: CATHOLIC REFLECTNS ON SCRIPTURE, SODOM, AND JTICECATEGORI
• WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS
• WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS

WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS

Though Marsh do not e the labels “gay” or “homosexualy, ” Bonhoeffer is portrayed as the suor while Bethge wants to rema iends.

WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS

Frank Schaeffer, son of the late evangelil lear Francis Schaeffer, wrote a provotive post tled “Dietrich Bonhoeffer Was Flamgly Gay — Deal Wh It. ” In a rponse at World magaze, Janie Cheaney seemed skeptil but acceptg of the ia that Bonhoeffer may have been gay.

“The firtorm Schaeffer is expectg om evangelils has yet to igne, eher bee few of have heard of `Strange Glory’ or bee the general evangelil attu toward homosexuals is not que as hateful as he thks, ” Cheaney wrote. The ia that Bonhoeffer may have been gay or had same-sex attractns regularly up at Bonhoeffer nferenc, Marsh said. Many Germans who were gay were persecuted unr Hler’s regime.

Although Marsh speculat Bonhoeffer harbored affectns for his iend, his bgraphy is one evangelils n embrace bee Marsh wr that he believ Bonhoeffer died a virg, acrdg to Wley Hill, who scrib himself as a celibate gay Christian. “It prents a more plex picture of how iendship n volve romantic feelgs but, at least as I read , wisely whholds judgment about whether this means Bonhoeffer had what morn psychology would term a homosexual orientatn, ” Hill said an email.

“WAS BONHOEFFER GAY?” AND OTHER ADVENTUR MISSG THE POT

“We’re readg that om our current ntext of gay rights, but I thk that do jtice to his own ntext and unrstandg of masculy an era that don’t rrpond wh our own. ” Bonhoeffer left his fiancee a memento of her choosg om his belonggs, while Bethge received most everythg else, cludg his r, cloth, books, mic, and Marsh do not e the labels “gay” or “homosexualy, ” Bonhoeffer is portrayed as the suor while Bethge wants to rema iends. A review First Thgs suggts siar tratn but ut admiratn for the Schaeffer, son of the late evangelil lear Francis Schaeffer, wrote a provotive post tled “Dietrich Bonhoeffer Was Flamgly Gay—Deal Wh It.

“The firtorm Schaeffer is expectg om evangelils has yet to igne, eher bee few of have heard of Strange Glory or bee the general evangelil attu toward homosexuals is not que as hateful as he thks, ” Cheaney, who grew up Southern Baptist and says he has “evangelil sensibili, ” scribed the receptn om other evangelils as surprisg, thkg they might be more dismissive of the bgraphy. ”The ia that Bonhoeffer may have been gay or had same-sex attractns regularly up at Bonhoeffer nferenc, Marsh said.

But early on, the two were read as a gay uple. In his typilly unrstated manner, Frank Schaeffer wrote an article, “Dietrich Bonhoeffer Was Flamgly Gay — Deal Wh It, ” which he predicted evangelils would be up arms about such an explosive claim. Sam Allberry, a pastor the UK who experienc same-sex attractn yet believ homosexual behavr to be sful, is faiar wh the accatn often ma agast evangelils, that adherg to Christiany’s sexual ethic ntribut to teenage angst and suici.

DIETRICH BONHOEFFER WAS FLAMGLY GAY– DEAL WH IT

When we assume sexual orientatn is fixed om birth and unchangeable, the qutn of inty naturally to the foreont: “Was he gay or not? He was a brilliant theologian, an evangelil Christian and flamgly gay.

OUTG DIETRICH BONHOEFFERA CHRISTIAN SUPERSTAR LOOKED SUPER GAY—AND THE RELIGN NCEALED JONATHAN POLETTI·FOLLOWPUBLISHED I’M JONATHAN. I BLOG GOD.·12 M READ·MAR 30--23SHAREIN 1945, A PASTOR GERMANY WAS EXECUTED BY THE NAZIS FOR TRYG KILL HLER. OVER THE NEXT S, DIETRICH BONHOEFFER BEME A CHRISTIAN SUPERSTAR.THE RELIGN LIKED HIS STORY, AND READ HIS BOOKS, LIKE THE COST OF DISCIPLHIP AND LETTERS AND PAPERS FROM PRISON. HE WAS LLED A CHRISTIAN HERO, A PROTTANT SAT, PECIALLY LOVED BY EVANGELILS.A NEW BOOK SAYS THAT BONHOEFFER SCHOLARS UNRSTOOD HIM TO BE HOMOSEXUAL — OFTEN DISCSG AMONGST THEMSELV. NEVER LLAGE: DIETRICH BONHOEFFER AND CHARL MARSH (PUBLICY PHOTO)CHARL MARSH MIGHT BE A CHRISTIAN HERO TOO.IN 2014, THE PROFSOR OF RELIGN AT THE UNIVERSY OF VIRGIA PUBLISHED A BGRAPHY OF BONHOEFFER THAT TRODUCED THE “GAY READG” TO THE PUBLIC. A CHRISTIAN SORT OF SEMI-‘OUTED’ A CHRISTIAN HERO?THAT DON’T HAPPEN EVERY DAY. MARSH HAS BEEN DROPPG TAILS OF HIS OWN STORY. LAST YEAR, HE PUBLISHED A MEMOIR, EVANGELIL ANXIETY, WHICH HE WROTE ABOUT GROWG UP EVANGELIL CHRISTIAN, THEN WANRG OUT OF . THROUGHOUT, BONHOEFFER WAS HIS GUI.HE DID HIS PH.D. DISSERTATN ON BONHOEFFER, AND ME TO A DIFFERENT KD OF CHRISTIANY—ONE THAT LET HIM TO SEE LIFE AS A SPIRUAL EXPERIENCE. IT’S NOT JT ABOUT “GETTG TO HEAVEN.” IT’S ABOUT BEG ON EARTH.IN 2007, MARSH BEGAN HIS BONHOEFFER BGRAPHY.

So do unrepentant gay men and women. In his monumental new book, one of the greatt wrers on the relatnship of relign to the civil rights movement, Charl Marsh, unequivolly nfirms that Dietrich Bonhoeffer was gay. The days the word Christian, at least the USA, is nflated wh right-wg Tea Party activist, Republin-votg, gun-totg libertarianism on the one hand and rtrictive anti-gay and anti-woman moralism on the other.

Jt as nservativ make their last stand agast gay marriage, not to mentn the mographic chang turng Ameri brown, Marsh has forced the evangelil muny to e to terms wh the fact that one of their great ins fell love wh another man, and he even “acted gay”! ” But he was gay.

WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY?

God never mak people gay, is a chosen liftyle that n be prayed away they believe.

Given that durg Bonhoeffer’s life was whe Southern Christians who were persecutg blacks and that today is the people’s grandchildren who are holdg out agast civil rights for gay men and women, there is a brilliant irony Marsh’s story. The reviewer for Christiany Today had to adm that this book is the greatt bgraphy of the sat of all, but also plaed that Marsh foced too specifilly of the gay factor.

WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS

The battle l have changed, but the victimized “others”–Jews and gay men Bonhoeffer’s time and gay men and women our time–are still wh .

They may lament Marsh makg sexualy a “major theme” but they should remember that while Jews had to wear the yellow star gay men had to wear the pk triangle Hler’s mps. The silent church that went along wh Hler betrayed Jews and gays too. A Christian superstar looked super gay—and the relign ncealed In 1945, a pastor Germany was executed by the Nazis for tryg kill Hler.

A new book says that Bonhoeffer scholars unrstood him to be homosexual — often discsg amongst themselv. Llage: Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Charl Marsh (publicy photo)Charl Marsh might be a Christian hero 2014, the profsor of relign at the Universy of Virgia published a bgraphy of Bonhoeffer that troduced the “gay readg” to the public. When I reported to you (and here) a month ago regardg Charl Marsh's bgraphy of theologil Dietrich Bonhoeffer entled Strange Glory: A Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (NY: Knopf, 2014), I mentned to you that, as Marsh do, another recent bgrapher, Diane Reynolds, se Bonhoeffer as a gay man love wh his lleague Eberhard Bethge.

TOP POSTS & PAG“CHASTE, GAY COUPL” AND THE CHURCHC. S. LEWIS ON HOMOSEXUALY & DISGTPERASTY AND ARSENOKOAIMART LUTHER KG, JR: INTEGRATED B SUGGTNSINTRSIC EVIL AND DISORR: HOW TO MISUNRSTAND THE CATHOLIC CATECHISMSOULS KN TOGETHERCRYG OUT TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE: CATHOLIC REFLECTNS ON SCRIPTURE, SODOM, AND JTICECATEGORI

Reynolds' bgraphy of Bonhoeffer, The Doubled Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Women, Sexualy, and Nazi Germany (Eugene, OR: Cas Books, 2016), propos that as a man aware that his erotic clatns moved a forbidn directn the savagely homophobic culture of Nazi Germany, Bonhoeffer lived a double life, often pretendg to be who and what he was not (p. Reynolds observ, "Vibrans's words about a special or unique iendship echo s ed for gay relatnships Weimar Germany" (p. To appreciate s signifince, Reynolds thks that we have to place the Dietrich-Eberhard story agast the backdrop of the rigid (and tensely homophobic) genr culture of Nazi Germany: "Dietrich lived outsi of mastream German genr norms for his tim — for eher the Nazi world or the pre-World War I culture he ialized" (p.

In an appendix to her book, Reynolds summariz her se for ncludg that Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a gay man love wh Eberhard Bethge. What stck me readg [the Bonhoeffer-Bethge letters], perhaps ntrast to Marsh and Stackhoe’s views, was how unwieldy our tegori are—eher “homosexual” or “jt iends”—when to classifyg a relatnship as profound as Bonhoeffer and Bethge’s was. Surely, the qutner said, “ mt [have been] a homosexual partnership” that existed between you and Bonhoeffer—after all, what else uld Bonhoeffer’s impassned letters have signaled?

WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS

” Pursug this le of thought might not give a “celibate gay” Bonhoeffer, but also might not yield a “jt-iends-wh-no-ht-of-eros” Bonhoeffer.

” In a rponse at World magaze, Janie Cheaney seemed skeptil but acceptg of the ia that Bonhoeffer may have been gay.

WAS DIETRICH BONHOEFFER GAY? A NEW BGRAPHY RAIS QUTNS

Although Marsh speculat Bonhoeffer harbored affectns for his iend, his bgraphy is one evangelils n embrace bee Marsh wr that he believ Bonhoeffer died a virg, acrdg to Wley Hill, who scrib himself as a celibate gay Christian. Someone on Twter sent to me the other day, wh this tag: “Bonhoeffer was a celibate gay Christian. Marsh never once refers to homosexualy and only once or twice refers to sexual sire at all, but he equently pats Bonhoeffer as the arnt suor while Bethge wants to rema “jt iends.

Is he implyg that if Marsh had mated a b more, he might have nclud that a pursu of iendship as tense as Bonhoeffer’s mt have been fueled by sexual sire (th lendg crence to the ia that Bonhoeffer was gay, albe celibate)?