Bill Kristol vs. Irvg Kristol on Gay Marriage - The Amerin Conservative

Contents:

• GAY MARRIAGE, MILLENNIALS, AND WHY BILL KRISTOL IS DEAD WRONG
• 'ENOMIST' DTROYS BILL KRISTOL COLUMN ON GAYS IN THE MILARY: 'BLATANT BIGOTRY'
• BILL KRISTOL DISMISS GAY MARRIAGE: ‘PATHETIC’ TO ‘EMBRACE VIEWS OF SOME 26-YEAR-OLD WHO DON’T KNOW ANYTHG’
• BILL KRISTOL: GOP SHOULDN'T "TER" TO YOUNG PEOPLE ON GAY MARRIAGE
• BILL KRISTOL’S ANTI-TMP SAVR IS AN ANTI-GAY CSAR
• BILL KRISTOL THKS MILLENNIALS' GAY MARRIAGE VIEWS ARE JT A FAD
• BILL KRISTOL: "DON'T PRETEND U.S. SOCHI DELEGATN IS A GREAT MOMENT FOR GAY RIGHTS"
• BILL KRISTOL THKS MILLENNIALS' GAY MARRIAGE VIEWS ARE JT A FAD
• RCUG THE GAYS OF IRAQ

GAY MARRIAGE, MILLENNIALS, AND WHY BILL KRISTOL IS DEAD WRONG

Followg Weekly Standard edor Bill Kristol's cisn to not nmn an anti-gay email sent out by the magaze's marketg team, former ThkProgrs blogger Matt Corley went diggg through the Nexis archiv and turned up terviews om the neti which Kristol argued that homosexualy was a choice and that was "perfectly reasonable" to discrimate agast . "There are many, many human begs through history - lns and lns and lns - who have been both homosexual at tim their liv and then heterosexual, or vice-versa, or bisexual. Kristol also fend discrimatn durg a bate wh Tom Stoddard, the ordator for an anizatn workg to get gays to the ary.

There are people who say 'I was gay once. That same year, Andrew Sullivan reported on Kristol's participatn a June 1997 nference dited to exposg homosexualy as ''the disease that is., " where he "shared the podium wh a variety of clergy members and therapists who advoted a spirual and psychoanalytic 'cure' for homosexuals. The Weekly Standard edor says lennials' acceptance of gay marriage is nothg more than a passg fad.

Case pot: the ongog gay marriage bate, which lennials are kowtowg to their peers’ preferenc for marriage equaly over the bigotry and exceptnalism that’s been the standard for s. In a recent episo of the nservative rag’s podst, Kristol got onto the topic of young people and gay marriage, sayg that we as a untry ought not “embrace the views of some 26-year-old who don’t know anythg, hontly.

'ENOMIST' DTROYS BILL KRISTOL COLUMN ON GAYS IN THE MILARY: 'BLATANT BIGOTRY'

That is far and away the hight number favor of gay marriage generatnally, wh Baby Boomers (Kristol’s generatn) toppg out at 38 percent support.

We were jt raised wh a different set of valu, generally speakg, and now Kristol hat that the GOP is startg to see that they’ll have to play nice wh their new nstuency as the old one ag and di notn here seems to be that we know-nothg 26-year-olds will, as we age, e to see gay marriage as a direct and tangible threat to our well-beg. The fad will grow stale, support will dry up, and we’ll stop worryg whether or not our gay iend is seen as every b as human as we are. Essentially, ’s unlikely that lennials will “return” to an anti-gay marriage stance simply bee wasn’t really there the first place.

Jt about everyone is expectg the Supreme Court to strike down the much-hated DOMA, leavg up to dividual stat to le on the gay marriage issue.

BILL KRISTOL DISMISS GAY MARRIAGE: ‘PATHETIC’ TO ‘EMBRACE VIEWS OF SOME 26-YEAR-OLD WHO DON’T KNOW ANYTHG’

So today I found myself pickg through Mr Kristol's latt Weekly Standard edorial, which he mak the se for matag the "don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) policy that allows gays to serve Ameri's ary only if they keep their sexual preference unr wraps.

It rts on the notn that some soldiers are homophobic and, therefore, any change to the policy might negatively affect morale. Bill Kristol is upset wh the GOP’s “herd” mentaly on gay marriage, he revealed on this weekend’s Weekly Standard podst: Has the Republin tablishment ever looked more like a herd of, you know, totally nformist, and pathetilly nng-to-tch-up-wh-the-trends mds?

Bill Kristol is upset wh the GOP’s “herd” mentaly on gay marriage, he revealed on this weekend’s Weekly Standard podst:. His hardle posn on homosexualy has been known for years, so isn’t exactly a surprise. “I was ad-set agast gay marriage when was first broached, ” Murray said; as a fan of Edmund Burke, he regard marriage as an ancient and dispensable cultural stutn that “we shouldn’t ms wh.

BILL KRISTOL: GOP SHOULDN'T "TER" TO YOUNG PEOPLE ON GAY MARRIAGE

” He ed to agree wh his iend Irvg Kristol, the late father of neo-nservatism, that gay people wouldn’t like marriage. It mt have been years ago that the elr Kristol said that, before support for gay marriage was a majory opn, and yet he said wasn’t an issue worth gog to the mat for. In Murray and Kristol, there are two pathways the nservative telligentsia have taken on gay marriage; one graceful, the other arguably suicidal.

BILL KRISTOL’S ANTI-TMP SAVR IS AN ANTI-GAY CSAR

In his speech at CPAC, Murray didn’t endorse the ia of homosexual marriag beg the same as heterosexual on, but he did say nservativ need to rpect the value and signifince of long-term partnerships. If the upward trend support for gay marriage was limed only to the young, that might be nvcg.

Appearg on The Weekly Standard podst (a thg that likely sounds like an endls loop of “womp-wompg” om the Charlie Brown adults) this weekend, Kristol chuckled his way through dismissg those young “liberals” and their pro-gay marriage views as know-nothgs who shouldn’t be any sort of measure for how the GOP nducts self gog forward. Notg that the Republin “tablishment” (not cludg himself, of urse) looks like a herd “nng to tch up wh the trends” bee “some polls show [same-sex marriage] is now 58% popular and five years ago was only 43% popular” (y, that’s lled an upward trend), Kristol lamented how some of the party’s lears believe necsary to take on the “fashnable” posn of beg okay wh gay marriage. Both seemgly neglectg that ’s not jt those mid-20-somethgs who believe gay marriage more than ever.

BILL KRISTOL THKS MILLENNIALS' GAY MARRIAGE VIEWS ARE JT A FAD

Y, bee that’s where young people today get all of their pro-gay views — not om, you know, tolerance and a general unwillgns to mimic the pearl-clutchg social nservatism of their parents’ generatn.

BILL KRISTOL: "DON'T PRETEND U.S. SOCHI DELEGATN IS A GREAT MOMENT FOR GAY RIGHTS"

Back the ’90s, Kristol predicted that 1993 would be the “high water mark” of the gay rights movement, and that was “all downhill om there. Conservative pund Bill Kristol is not nvced that Republins should listen to young people when to embracg gay marriage, bee they "[don't] know anythg hontly.

BILL KRISTOL THKS MILLENNIALS' GAY MARRIAGE VIEWS ARE JT A FAD

Speakg an terview for the Weekly Standard's podst, Kristol said that he fds "somethg pathetic" about policians now g out support of gay marriage, and "jumpg on the tra bee looks fashnable. First nce the obv pot, so your smear nnot be immediately rebutted:Kagan has profsed at tim her admiratn for those who serve the has a long rerd opposg discrimatn agast hont homosexuals the US ary (only liars are currently allowed to serve whout fear of persecutn). In so far as this posn seeks to back all the troops, and not jt the heterosexual on, is arguably much more pro-ary than Kristol's own exploatn of homophobia for short-term polil ends.

RCUG THE GAYS OF IRAQ

Last July, Slate‘s Mark Joseph Stern poted out French’s pattern of “humanizg” gay people and scribed one of French’s lumns as an “effort to persua Amerins that gay people are fundamentally immoral bee they have gay sex. From his perch at Natnal Review, French has regularly railed agast gay rights.