The pope's ments support of gay civil unns did not go far enough and uld even harm the mpaign for same-sex marriage, LGBT+ rights mpaigners said on Thursday.
Contents:
- THE POPE’S ‘SHOCKG’ STATEMENT ON GAY MARRIAGE IS G AN UPROAR AMONG CATHOLICS
- POPE FRANCIS SAYS HOMOSEXUALY "IS NOT A CRIME," BUT GAY SEX IS "A S"
- POPE FRANCIS WON’T BUDGE ON GAY MARRIAGE: “MARRIAGE IS MARRIAGE”
- OPN WHAT THE POPE GOT RIGHT WH HIS CREE ON GAY MARRIAGE
- WHAT POPE FRANCIS REALLY SAID ABOUT (GAY) MARRIAGE -- AND WHAT HE DID NOT
- VATIN BARS GAY UNN BLSG, SAYS GOD ‘N’T BLS S’
- EXCLUSIVE: TAYLOR MARSHALL SAYS POPE FRANCIS MAY CHANGE POSN OF CATHOLIC CHURCH ON GAY MARRIAGE
- POPE'S SUPPORT FOR GAY CIVIL UNNS SEEN AS THREAT TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
THE POPE’S ‘SHOCKG’ STATEMENT ON GAY MARRIAGE IS G AN UPROAR AMONG CATHOLICS
The Vatin said the pope’s statements favor of civil unns for gay upl did not change church doctre. * pope on gay marrige *
Followg Pope Francis’s announcement clarg support for civil unn laws for same-sex upl, which breaks wh tradnal Catholic valu that oppose homosexual relatnships, the lear has garnered both cricism and support om people all over the world. Image source, RtersImage ptn, Pope Francis' statements are a parture om prev ments about LGBT rightsPope Francis has said that he thks same-sex upl should be allowed to have "civil unns" ma the ments, which observers say are his cleart remarks yet on gay relatnships, a documentary directed by Evgeny Afeevsky. " He add that he "stood up for that", apparently referrg to his time as Archbishop of Buenos Air when, although opposg same-sex marriag law, he supported some legal protectns for same-sex film Franc, about the life and work of Pope Francis, premiered as part of the Rome Film well as the Pope's ments on civil unns, the film also shows him enuragg two gay men to attend church wh their three Francis's bgrapher, Aten Ivereigh, told the BBC he was "not surprised" by the latt ments.
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POPE FRANCIS SAYS HOMOSEXUALY "IS NOT A CRIME," BUT GAY SEX IS "A S"
By acknowledgg the worth of gay children, Pope Francis may rtore their tst the church. * pope on gay marrige *
2, 2020Updated June 27, 2021ROME — The Vatin has nfirmed the pope’s remarks on gay upl servg civil protectns as sent an explanatory note to bishops unrlg that Francis’s ments did not mark a change church pope’s remarks ma headl last month after they appeared the documentary “Franc, ” at s Oct.
Afeevsky the Vatin note said that durg the Televisa terview, speakg of the ntroversy Argenta, Francis had argued for the right of gay upl to have legal Vatin note also poted to a 2014 terview which the pope had reerated that “marriage is between a man and a woman” but that secular stat uld seek to “jtify civil unns to regulate var suatns of existence, driven by the mand to regulate enomic aspects among people, such as ensurg health re.
POPE FRANCIS WON’T BUDGE ON GAY MARRIAGE: “MARRIAGE IS MARRIAGE”
The Vatin said Pope Francis' remarks were taken out of ntext but still nfirmed the pontiff's belief that gay upl should enjoy legal protectns. * pope on gay marrige *
“Legal regnn of homosexual unns or placg them on the same level as marriage would mean not only the approval of viant behavr, wh the nsequence of makg a mol prent-day society, but would also obscure basic valu which belong to the mon herance of humany, ” the document said. Pope Francis livered a disappotment to Catholic LGBT muni Monday, wh a cree reaffirmg that prits should not bls same-sex move stood ntrast to the pontiff’s past statements llg for the legalizatn of same-sex unns and urgg cln — part of a shift toward an crementally more welg tone toward gay people the more nciliatory rhetoric has stopped short of doctral chang.
German bishops have been nductg a multiyear reevaluatn of the Catholic Church’s stanc on practic cludg celibacy, women learship and homosexualy — much to the chagr of the stutn’s more nservative the pope traveled to Ai 2019, his fourth vis to the ntent — which has the fastt-growg Catholic populatn the world — sce beg pontiff 2013, he preached awarens of poverty, climate change and passn for refuge.
Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of DignyUSA, the Uned Stat’ largt spirual muny of gay Catholics, told The Washgton Post is “hard for a lot of people to unrstand jt how far removed the church is om human rights advanc that are beg ma the rt of society.
OPN WHAT THE POPE GOT RIGHT WH HIS CREE ON GAY MARRIAGE
The Uned Stat this past June did somethg that the Catholic Church and the Vatin have for years railed agast: granted marriage equaly to s gay and lbian cizens. Yet, Pope Francis had nothg to say about . Not then and not now. * pope on gay marrige *
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WHAT POPE FRANCIS REALLY SAID ABOUT (GAY) MARRIAGE -- AND WHAT HE DID NOT
Catholic teachg forbids same-sex marriage but not same-sex love — the venant of David and Jonathan, the promis of Ruth and Naomi, the vows of iendship taken by Wtern Christian pairs, godparentg relatnships and even tentnal muni such as the Catholic Worker, we see forms of love and kship that don’t require marriage or no, the pope do not support gay marriage; those who believe the latt clips dite a change of his stance will be disappoted. What surprised and lighted many gay people, both outsi and wh the church, was the possibily that he would speak about our longgs posive of who seek to obey the Catholic teachg have had to learn, wh more hdrance than help om our hierarchy, how to exprs our longgs for love and home harmony wh our fah.
21, 2020Updated June 27, 2021ROME — Pope Francis exprsed support for same-sex civil unns remarks revealed a documentary film that premiered on Wednday, a signifint break om his precsors that staked out new ground for the church s regnn of gay remarks, g om the lear of the Roman Catholic Church, had the potential to shift bat about the legal stat of same-sex upl natns around the globe and unsettle bishops worried that the unns threaten what the church nsirs tradnal marriage — between one man and one woman.
VATIN BARS GAY UNN BLSG, SAYS GOD ‘N’T BLS S’
”Many gay Catholics and their alli outsi the church weled the pope’s remarks, though Francis’ opposn to gay marriage wh the church remaed nservative crics wh the church hierarchy, and pecially the nservative wg of the church the Uned Stat, who have for years acced him of dilutg church doctre, saw the remarks as a reversal of church teachg.
EXCLUSIVE: TAYLOR MARSHALL SAYS POPE FRANCIS MAY CHANGE POSN OF CATHOLIC CHURCH ON GAY MARRIAGE
The ments shown the film are likely to generate exactly the sort of discsn the pope has repeatedly sought to foster on issu once nsired forbidn the church’s culture Granati/Corbis, via Getty ImagFrancis had already drastilly shifted the tone of the church on qutns related to homosexualy, but he has done ltle on policy and not changed teachg for a church that se s future growth the Southern Hemisphere, where the cleril hierarchy is generally ls tolerant of remark “ no way affects doctre, ” the Rev. Anton Spadaro, a Ju prit and close ally of Francis, told the televisn channel of the Italian bishops nference on Wednday remarks the documentary were keepg wh Francis’ general support for gay people, but were perhaps his most specific and proment on the issue of civil unns, which even tradnally Catholic natns like Italy, Ireland and Argenta have permted recent director of the documentary, Evgeny Afeevsky, told The New York Tim that Francis had ma the remarks directly to him for the film. Alazraki had told The Tim that she did not rell the pope makg the ments to 2010, as Argenta was on the verge of approvg gay marriage, Francis, then rdal archbishop of Buenos Air, supported the ia of civil unns for gay Mabromata/Agence France-Prse — Getty ImagAs pope 2014, he told the Corriere lla Sera, Italy’s largt newspaper, that natns legalizg civil unns did so mostly to give same-sex partners legal rights and health re benefs and that he uldn’t exprs a blanket posn.
“You have to see the different s and evaluate them their variety, ” he said Francis’ remarks the documentary, explicly supportg civil unns as pope and on mera, had the potential for much greater impact on the bate over the regnn of gay upl by the church. ”Church doctre also explicly stat that marriage is between a man and a woman, a teachg Francis unwavergly Gibson/The New York TimFrancis’ precsors had also exprsed their opposn, though, to civil 2003, unr the pontifite of Pope John Pl II, the church’s Congregatn for the Doctre of the Fah, s doctral watchdog then led by the future Pope Benedict XVI, issued “Consiratns regardg proposals to give legal regnn to unns between homosexual persons.
“The church nnot support the acceptance of objectively immoral relatnships, ” said Bishop Tob of the pope’s remarks do not mean he has altered church teachg on the subject, and Francis has a track rerd of makg enuragg remarks for gay people. “Who am I to judge, ” Francis famoly answered when asked about a supposedly gay prit on that photo by Lu ZennaroIn his landmark 2016 document on the theme of fay — tled “Amoris Laetia, ” or “The Joy of Love” — Francis rejected same-sex marriage, yet lled on prits to be welg to people nontradnal relatnships, such as gay people, sgle parents and unmarried straight upl who live also once told Juan Carlos Cz, a Chilean sexual abe survivor and gay person whom he beiend, and who is featured the documentary, that “God ma you this way and lov you this way, and the pope lov you this way. “A pope sets the tone for the church and what he is dog is signalg to bishops and church lears that a wele for gay and lbian upl has to go forward, ” said Francis DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways Mistry, an anizatn of L.
POPE'S SUPPORT FOR GAY CIVIL UNNS SEEN AS THREAT TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
ROME — The Vatin says Pope Francis’ ments on gay civil unns were taken out of ntext a documentary that spliced together parts of an old terview, but still nfirmed Francis’ belief that gay upl should enjoy legal Vatin secretariat of state issued guidance to ambassadors to expla the uproar that Francis’ ments created followg the Oct.
“More than a year ago, durg an terview, Pope Francis answered two different qutns at two different tim that, the aforementned documentary, were eded and published as a sgle answer whout proper ntextualizatn, which has led to nfn, ” said the guidance posted by the film, Afeevsky reunts the story of Andrea Rubera, a married gay Catholic who wrote Francis askg for his advice about brgg to the church his three young children wh his was an anguished qutn, given that the Catholic Church teach that gay people mt be treated wh digny and rpect but that homosexual acts are “trsilly disorred.